What does hitting the wall even mean at this point? If they can get a partner still, why do men care so much about women “hitting the wall”?
People who are obsessed with women hitting walls are always jealous incels. 🙄 It's an attempt to make women feel insecure so those men can feel better about their own insecurities.
What does hitting the wall mean? It usually means the point where there's no improvement after, and it's all downhill from there. In incel speak, it means the point when women become undesirable.
The problem with that is women never become undesirable. There are elderly hookers, there's elderly porn, cougars, milfs, sugar mamas, old folks homes with high std rates because they are having so much sex, etc. As multiple men have told me, a woman can be disabled, missing her arms and legs, ugly, and elderly. Some men will still be trying to date that woman. While a perfectly healthy young man will still often struggle to find one woman who wants them. It's incomparable. 😆 In that sense, most women never "hit the wall" in terms of being wanted and desirable.
People also mistake the fact that women lean towards older men as meaning we think they look better older. Completely unrelated. Older men tend to be calmer and have more money, but they certainly don't usually look better or have bodies that work better than men in their teens and 20's to most women. With exceptions of course. They fall apart faster than women, and their sperm count drops drastically at the same time female fertility begins to drop. But, this explains where the false idea that men peak later comes from. 🙄
When people peak or hit a wall really just depends on lifestyle and genetics. Some won't hit a wall until 70, some never really do. Some peak in their teens and go downhill drastically by 20. Putting it in general terms is dumb, because people are so different. But, if we had to average it outI would say both men and women gradually decline after 50 maybe (in in my 30's and most of us are doing pretty well at this age) and most don't really hit any wall.
I'll post pics of women in my family, because they age so slowly that people can't even guess their ages.

816 Reply- +1 y
The wall doesn’t have anything to do with a women’s beauty. It doesn’t really have anything to do with a women’s desirability either. Women hit the wall at 30 which means she’s past her golden years aka the 20’s. The 20’s are the golden years because it’s the years of peak beauty and fertility. A man may still date a 30 year old women but he won’t look at her the same as if she was in her 20’s. That’s it, that’s all it is and I also gave you the main reasons for so but more pointedly it does become harder for women to date after 30 and men are mostly just going to want sex more or less nothing too long term. Men on the other hand become Silver Foxes in the long run, men will always win because men can play the long game. These are the stereotypes and often times many stereotypes are based in some level of truth. Women become crazy cat lady’s, men silver foxes. Don’t shoot the messenger.
- +1 y
@SinCityLucky7 False, men peak in their 20's.
www.researchgate.net/.../Male-attractiveness-ranking-by-age-R-2-0551_fig1_240186962 - +1 y
@wolfcat87
Here I explained it a little wrong. Women can still be beautiful at older ages yes. It has nothing to do with women’s physical beauty consciously yes. Hitting the wall is more a psychological subconscious feeling men experience and may not notice when interacting with a women he knows is older. I have a good analogy and I’ve experienced this feeling myself before when I was 27 dating a 37 year old. Hitting the wall is like last years model of iPhone. It can even be a brand new never used iPhone but the problem is is that it’s last generations iPhone or maybe even a few generations old and men want the new generation of iPhone. It doesn’t mean a man won’t date you but a man may experience the feeling of having the last generation model of iPhone and wanting the latest. He will look at younger women with a look that he wouldn’t with an older women. Do you understand me now. Beauty and fertility at least consciously have nothing to do with it, it’s really the knowing factor and knowing that there are more young hot women out there. Beauty and fertility may have something to do with it subconsciously and that’s especially true if the over 30 year old has signs of aging. Sorry it’s little hard to explain but I think I did it right just now. - +1 y
Dude... you all look like shit... What do incels have to do with you looking hideous? You know those are just people going through suicidality right? you're nasty in your face and nasty in your heart. Good luck ugly, you hit a wall when you were 3 hahahaaha
- +1 y
men peak in their 20s and are desperate, but women get more desperate at thirty. So at that age men tend to put less value on women, and its pretty common to see escorts or cheat, because lets be honest women do the same thing when theyre younger and sleep around a lot. Everyone looks out for themselves, and your anger and bitterness will create more anger and bitterness. Thats what you want when you act venomous to others, you're hurting people you will never meet. Get plastic surgery ugo
- +1 y
an escort is a few hundred bucks. welcome to your sexual liberation idiot, with a face like yours i can't imagine you love life will go well.
- +1 y
can't believe you thought that looked good by the way. delusional
- +1 y
@SinCityLucky7 Sounds more like hookup culture than anything else. We all feel like we can upgrade and do better. Whether or not it's true is a whole different story.
- +1 y
Attractiveness on a physical level yes, but if your only analysis of a man's actual worth is physical, you're missing the point. When I was in my 20s I got zero female attention, now I'm reaching my 40s it's different. You're really not understanding the point... Women after 30 lose fertility, and despite all the modern nonsense you've swallowed, if you're no use as a mother you're not long term material really. Only shallow women think it's all about looks, and hitting the wall isn't about looks alone!
- +1 y
@incorrected Half of men in first world countries don't even plan to have children. Fertility for those men is a headache. That's why I've newer so many men in their 20's who discuss how wonderful sex with post menopausal women is. No worries and pregnancy on top of all the freedom and experience.
Men also lose fertility after 40 much like women. Women lose fertility around the same time, but it's really remedied through modern science and also depends on their genetics. Male infertility has no real treatment.
Doctors I've know have told me there's a massive spike in unplanned pregnancies in women going through menopause in their 50's, because they assume (much like you) that they can't get pregnant. Except, many can and do.
On top of those points, about 18% of couples experience infertility. So, fertility isn't even a selling point in many young people since so many are already infertile.
- +1 y
@incorrected Just because you couldn't attract women in your 20's doesn't mean we don't prefer other men in their 20's. My last boyfriend was 20, and he had no problem with a long term relationship. His mother was the headache of a dealbreaker. My last 3 boyfriends were all younger men in their 20's. Another had family issues as well, and one wouldn't take no for an answer when pursuing me. His family built a new room into their house for me because he wanted to get married. I dumped all 3 men though. Not because of their age, but because they failed to meet my standards.
Guys over 30 haven't made the cut since before I was 30. I used to think they might be mysterious, but now I realize they are mostly boring and falling apart. 😴 They have literally tried to beg, bribe, and pay me just to hang out with them but it's torture. The only exception is if I already liked them in their 20's and they are still here because we have a genuine connection.
The only bonuses to older men are money and mellowing out. Maybe the kink factor for a few. Most older men don't even have that much money though. The majority don't really mature, and they certainly don't become sexier.
So, if a woman has her own money then she's much more likely to play around with younger men because she doesn't need the wealth of an older man.
And, no it isn't all about looks. But, most men over 35 have very little to offer.
Most Helpful Opinions
- 912 opinions shared on Society & Politics topic.
+1 yI see some retarded answers on the matter in this topic from people who either don't comprehend the concept, or come up with their own moronic definitions that are incorrect.
The definition of "hitting the wall" means losing qualities that are sexually and romantically attractive to the opposite gender for long-term relations. Additionally, it implies that you're satisfied with your partner, instead of getting a partner just to avoid howling out of loneliness and then bragging "yeah, I can still get a man, and I'm 45! I'd never even looked at him when I was a hot 25, but let's leave that part out, as it contradicts my narrative".
Therefore, women indeed start hitting the wall at the age of 30-35, as their looks start to decline, their fertility goes down significantly etc. Some women can push back the clock a bit if they work out and eat well, true, but that's beside the point. Some erroneously think that hitting the wall implies a woman is somehow undesirable at all (some guys, especially younger ones, go for cougars because it's believed cougars are more desperate and/or want to feel young again, but guys do NOT settle with them), which is why I put "for long-term relations".
Some women erroneously think that men's attraction triggers are symmetrical to women's -- this is mainly due to modern women significantly lacking in empathy (not to be confused with sympathy), thus they tend to think men somehow care about women's career and similar stuff as much as women care about men's. This is due to lacking in empathy, and thus projecting her own preferences unto what men may prefer.
If someone is dumb enough to disagree, there are entire channels on youtube that make compilations of thousands of videos of crying older women (35+) from tiktok that are either annoyed they're still getting called on dates and whatnot, but it never goes further than getting pumped and dumped, or they can't get a date at all.
With men, it's a bit different: men don't hit the wall, men *start* at the wall, as everything the opposite sex sees as attractive in us for long-term relations is something that must be earned instead of given naturally. What do I mean by that?
Men overwhelmingly like youthful, good-looking, not a ran-through, not a nagging bitch women. Well, surprise, everyone's born youthful. Good looks can be acquired with a bit of proper use of makeup, plus most girls are attractive. Nobody is born ran through, and it's not hard to avoid becoming a nagging bitch. Some other positive qualities are nice to have, but they aren't as fundamental. So women in terms of having what men want are akin to trust fund babies by the time they turn 18, most of it is given to them upfront by nature.
Women, however, prefer things in the opposite gender that must be earned, and it takes time and hardships to get it -- and even then it's not guaranteed: money, life experience, leadership qualities, intelligence, knowledge, physical prowess (yes, muscles don't grow themselves, while a girl can stay fit without even going to a gym much, if she doesn't drink and doesn't eat junk food), charisma, good sense of humor, etc. All these qualities are developed. Thus, men in terms of having what women want to have must earn it, thus it's safe to say men must become self-made and can't be trust fund babies like women. Some qualities can't be earned at all (such as height), which means a guy must compensate even harder with other things to acquire a woman.
So men have only 2 choices: to either stay at the wall they were born at (which nowadays implies being average Joe), or work and move away from the wall. If he builds himself well, he still will have tons of attention from all sorts of young women for long-term relations, and she'll behave well, because she'll be afraid to lose him if she starts any bullshit with him. But if we flip genders? Barely, if ever.
Does this answers your question fully?
120 Reply
6K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Not even. I don't know what the wall is. I guess for some guys it means beyond optimum child bearing age. I never cared about having kids, so that issue was never important to me.
I did read that, although women are sexually active during adolescence, they reach their peak orgasmic frequency in their 30s, and have a constant level of sexual capacity up to the age of 55 with little evidence that aging affects it in later life.
One study showed that women between 27 and 45 had more frequent and more intense sexual fantasies than younger or older women. They also had more sex and were more likely to have it sooner in a relationship.
Although some guys think women are at their most flawlessly beautiful between their teens and mid-20s, the fact is that many women age very well. They may even reach their optimum in their 30s. To get an idea, look up female celebrities in their 40s and 50s. Some of them look magnificent without surgery. If a woman takes care of herself and is blessed with good genetics, she can look amazing into her 50s.
Besides that, as men age, they can appreciate women their own age. So women will always be appreciated. It's mostly young men who think women hit a wall.
Of all my girlfriends, the sexiest one was 30 when I was 36. She was gorgeous; my idea of the feminine ideal.
I met my future wife when I was 40. She is 2.5 years younger. At 37, she was beautiful. Now that we've been married for going on 27 years, I still think she's beautiful even though we have both aged.81 Reply- +1 y
its just about loose skin. Women start looking pretty shitty when that happens.
Anonymous(45 Plus)+1 ypersonally would say if all goes well (like you dont gain weight and let your fashion/grooming go because of kids and stuff) for women it's maybe around 41-42. for the luckiest ones, maybe 45. for guys i think also if you dont let yourself go would be around 45-47, and if you exeptionally take care of yourself like gym and are lucky maybe 53. beyond that you're done
though i think more commonly though for women it's whenever they have kids (a lot of them gain weight and dont loose it, plus stretch marks and all that fun stuff, also because they need to take care of infants and toddlers they can't be as cute fashion wise and beauty wise as before for a lot of women) so late 20s - early 30s. if they dont have kids or they bounce back from pregnancy/keep up their grooming then its what i said above, early 40s
for dudes its whenever they start to have more than slight receeding hairline, a dad bod and dress like shit. so sometime in their 30s, probbaly more mid-late. if they dont have that then its mid-late forties
though disclaimer, maybe i think this way because i'm young so dont get mad lol. there's biology and stuff but its also subjective. like i remember when i was 13 i though boys hit the wall at 18/19, when i was 15 it was 22, and at 18 it was 25. and yea obviously as you know that ain't true especially for the 18/19 & 22
01 Reply- +1 y
kid... That is just delusional. The wall is just talking about loose skin wrinkles. After 35ish most women look like shit, unless they work out like crazy. I dont know what women see in men so you can make up your own mind on that. But pretty much every guy is in consensus that 30-35 women start looking pretty gross, its just because of all the skin imperfections, men really are put off by the damged skin, but we rough it. from there any old guy will tell younger guys it does not get better.
Your sexual liberation crap is going to ruin you. With the sensationalism of pornography we're only around the corner to legalize prostitution and "escorting" is already becoming common. You ladies need to get your heads together and not sleep around so much or that will be everyone's fate. Good luck flabby
What Girls & Guys Said
Opinion
48Opinion
- 9.8K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic.
u +1 ySome people allow themselves to transform into old people, and some people continue living the same life they have always lived. Eventually, age catches up with everyone, but for many people, age is a self-imposed state of mind long before arthritis and all that other nonsense sets in.
50 Reply 4.5K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. No. The wall is a revenge fantasy narrative.
94 Reply- +1 y
The wall doesn’t have anything to do with a women’s beauty. It doesn’t really have anything to do with a women’s desirability either. Women hit the wall at 30 which means she’s past her golden years aka the 20’s. The 20’s are the golden years because it’s the years of peak beauty and fertility. A man may still date a 30 year old women but he won’t look at her the same as if she was in her 20’s. That’s it, that’s all it is and I also gave you the main reasons for so but more pointedly it does become harder for women to date after 30 and men are mostly just going to want sex more or less nothing too long term. Men on the other hand become Silver Foxes in the long run, men will always win because men can play the long game. These are the stereotypes and often times many stereotypes are based in some level of truth. Women become crazy cat lady’s, men silver foxes. Don’t shoot the messenger.
- +1 y
You said it doesn’t have anything to do with a woman’s beauty… and then immediately tell me how it involves a woman’s beauty. 🤔 by the way, men’s sperm quality also declines at 30, as does their testosterone, muscle mass, and cognitive abilities. Something conveniently often left out when talking about the wall.
- +1 y
Here I explained it a little wrong. Women can still be beautiful at older ages yes. It has nothing to do with women’s physical beauty consciously yes. Hitting the wall is more a psychological subconscious feeling men experience and may not notice when interacting with a women he knows is older. I have a good analogy and I’ve experienced this feeling myself before when I was 27 dating a 37 year old. Hitting the wall is like last years model of iPhone. It can even be a brand new never used iPhone but the problem is is that it’s last generations iPhone or maybe even a few generations old and men want the new generation of iPhone. It doesn’t mean a man won’t date you but a man may experience the feeling of having the last generation model of iPhone and wanting the latest. He will look at younger women with a look that he wouldn’t with an older women. Do you understand me now. Beauty and fertility at least consciously have nothing to do with it, it’s really the knowing factor and knowing that there are more young hot women out there. Beauty and fertility may have something to do with it subconsciously and that’s especially true if the over 30 year old has signs of aging. Sorry it’s little hard to explain but I think I did it right just now.
- +1 y
Most guys eyeing the “latest model” couldn’t handle the insurance on that, let alone the upkeep.
Plus, let’s be honest, the kind of guy who compares women to objects usually ends up with neither.
A quality man knows relationships aren’t about trading up for the newest model but finding someone who’s classic, reliable, and doesn’t go obsolete. Because unlike phones, the best relationships are those that don’t need upgrades every year.
3.6K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Nope. Refer you to Lady Margaret Thatcher - who became Prime Minister at age 54, and Ronald Reagan - age 69 - when elected.
Two of the most successful national leaders in my lifetime. (I was born at the end of the Kennedy Administration.)
If that is "hitting the wall," we need more wall hitting.
10 Reply
+1 yPeople choose when to let themselves go for the most part. Like women at 30 for instance (talking about your option for that)... but let's take a step back from that and then just look at women that get married at 18... what are we going to see?
Everyone knows the meme about a woman getting fat after marriage.


I'm saying this as a 41-year-old man who still can't buy my alcohol without getting questioned about my age (it's why I prefer buying from places I'm known). But I lift weights or at least punch the shit out of Punch Bob 7 days a week. When it comes to a woman that just works maybe, goes home, and sits... yeah there is a range where age is a good guestimation... but ask any gym rat out there about that 50-year-old gym rat that even the minor dudes there agree that they'd 'hell-a-fuck' that shit.
What I'm trying to say... going sedentary speeds up the process. We play as kids and a lot of us slip into this bullshit 'sit on our asses lifestyle' unless a job or ourselves take us out of that pattern. Those that just follow the pattern... yes... you can really time when they're going to become a major reject in the sexual department.
At the same time... yeah time is going to be a predictor eventually. That's why someone like me is going to be having fun until maybe around 90 when other men that are not like me end up acting old around their 40's.
I'm getting my buzz on right now so don't take my rant seriously as if I'm all about this... I'm just saying some drunk shit and I'm gonna bang this Asian chick as soon as she gets back from Wallmart. Living my best life. 😂
16 Reply- +1 y
What I was trying to point out is the ones that let themselves get too comfortable... they fall off. They haven't even jumped in the air for weeks. No physical exercise. The only reason women do it faster in my mind... they don't have the types of jobs that require physical movement or they don't have the motivation to do physical movement.
- +1 y
As usual your opinion pounds hard. But I'd add my ideas about the physiology of cooming. Not that I see the "as above so below" matching how we have two throats, one for breathing and one for food similar to the peehole leading to two pipes separate for peeing and cooming...
But that even healthy active women reach the time their eggs don't work earlier than lazy ass men become sterile. - +1 y
@ButtFloggedTroll This is true... a 99-year-old man can still impregnate and a 99-year-old woman has no hope of getting pregnant naturally. Male and female time lines are different and I believe this is because they are still useful to babysit and serve a different purpose with age. A sort of naturalistic way of looking at it.
With that said though... a woman that's taken her birth control for life and just fucked around, is lazy as shit and doesn't have shit to her name... She gets old and she will either get cats or a small dog or two. Maybe both. Those are baby replacements for grandchildren she should be spending time with.
My mother was a mean bitch and we simply don't want her around our kids or none of us would seriously consider letting her move in to help. My mother has her chickens and her cats. Nobody wants to talk to her though... she's just a pain in the ass. Everyone tries to avoid her... we talk back to her only out of sympathy... although I'm the last left with skin thick enough to tolerate her talking at all. Just like most women... she blames the men... others... anything other than herself than accepting responsibility. Even blames my sisters. She fails to realize that it's her, herself, that's been driving everyone, not just the men, away from her. She ages... but inside she's still an angry 14-year-old girl trying to rebel against her mother... and I was raised by that mess, and just one step away from just telling her that a black guy would really make her dead Mother mad.
It would be hilarious. My racist Mom getting dicked down by the BBC. - +1 y
Seeing as how you may be young (and there's nothing wrong with that), "hitting the wall" basically refers to that point in a person's life when they've basically crossed their peak and stop becoming desirable to the opposite sex.
For women, it's commonly believed by most men, usually the ones who are redpillers and consider themselves part of the "manosphere" that it's when she crosses 35 and starts showing signs of aging; i. e she starts getting crow's feet around her eyes, signs of slight wrinkles around her forehead and cheeks, and her boobs begin to sag. Although, this is not true for everyone and there are plenty of men who are into aging women. There's a reason why milfs are well sought after by younger guys who like older women.
For men, it's unclear whether or not they ever hit the wall, allegedly, and it mostly all comes down to the ladies' preferences, again, just like in a woman's case. Some women are into older men. Some aren't.
So yeah, I'd go with the fifth option if there was one; "It's all bs".00 Reply- 2.9K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic.
+1 yThere is no such thing as hitting the wall.
To read and answer this question, I obviously need to understand what people mean by it. Yes, people will eventually lose their looks as they age. But it varies so much, and is so subjective, that hitting the wall has no meaning.
Changes occur very slowly. They happen at very different rates. Some people get better looking with age, even into their 40s and 50s. A person's disposition, lifestyle and how well they take care of themselves have a major affect. Then of course there are genes.
There are plenty of women in their 50s and 60s who are better looking than a lot of women in their 20s. So where is the wall? There isn't one. There are only people.
The 57 year old woman I've been dating is very good looking. I didn't say good looking "for her age". I said she is good looking. She has a pretty face. She has some of the most beautiful eyes I've seen in my life. She is trim and keeps herself up. She's sexy. She's graceful. I think someone forgot to tell her about the so-called wall.Some people sit on their butts all day eating snacks and watching TV or playing video games. They are not going to age well unless they have super good genes.
00 Reply
Anonymous(36-45)+1 yAs a 42 year old I can tell you that it’s a mixed bag.
There is a reality to aging for sure. But there is a real reality is how people react appropriately to aging.
Some people completely give up, let their bodies go to shit, never want their picture taken, don’t take any new risks or adventures, etc. They also immediately count themselves out romantically. They won’t approach anybody who is semi attractive especially if they are younger.
Then on the flip side there are some people who are very immature and delusional. You can say they maybe “never grew up” or something. I think they are overly defying aging.
Anyway I well past the point of approaching college girls. Heck no. I am not going to hit on a random 19 year old. I know that’s creepy af. But I might (politely) say hello to a 28 year old.
Also I am not going to sell everything I own and go sleep on a beach tomorrow. But I am still working lots of side hustles and I got lots of ideas.
Also being a former pro fighter I will train 5 days a week if I CAN. But my professional career comes first now. I am not going to blow off work, risk my job just to train or go on random adventures.
Also I might occasionally put up a FB post of me doing a recreational activity. I actually have a VERY athletic body for my age but I haven’t put up shirtless pics in a very long time.
00 Reply
Anonymous(25-29)+1 yIt is true of women and this should be obvious.
1. Fertility
The whole point of dating and marriage is reproduction. Whether you make an evolutionary or religious point of view is irrelevant. It's true in both cases.
Female fertility nosedives at age 30, making reproduction less likely. It makes sense that women of this age are, on average, less attractive to men.
This doesn't apply to men because men can still father a child even when older, though greater age of father is linked with a modestly greater chance of some genetic defects.
2. Already set in ways.
The longer you live, the more you develop opinions, habits, and values that you aren't willing to change. At an older age, women will stick to their guns on opinions and be unwilling to respect a husband who wasn't a part of shaping those opinions.
Couples who get married in their 20s will mature, discuss, and develop opinions *together*. The later people wait to marry, the more their marriage will be two people convinced they're each right trying to force the other into agreeing.
This one doesn't apply much to men either, because the general trend is for women to choose somewhat older "set" guys (4 ish years older).
Of these two points, fertility is the most relevant.00 Reply
Anonymous(36-45)+1 yIt's different for every individual. Hitting the wall basically means your dating options are declining rather than rising over time. On average, women DO see their options decline sooner than men do. If you focus only on "high value" women and "high value" men, then this is even more true, since a HUGE part of what tends to make a woman "high value" is physical attractiveness, which tends to peak in the early 20s and decline slowly and then more rapidly as a woman ages deeper into her 30s. And a HUGE part of what tends to make a man "high value" is career success and economic resources, which for most high value men tends to increase (sometimes VERY rapidly) into his 30s.
So yeah--on average, the statement is true, but OBVIOUSLY there are exceptions for individual cases. A great example on the "high value" man front would be the high-school star athlete. He's got the best dating options WHILE IN HIGH SCHOOL, often getting with the highest value girls in his school (think the star quarterback and the hottest cheerleader). But then everyone graduates, and he goes off to doing construction work and suddenly he's no longer the awesome catch to high value women in their 20s that he was to the high value teens he used to date. That guy hit the wall at 18.
00 Reply
Anonymous(30-35)+1 yThere is no "wall", per se. But on average, men and women do hit their peak desireability at different ages. Studies show that women are at their peak at age 18, and begin to decline from that point forward. That decline begins to accelerate faster around age 30. Whereas men only begin to hit their stride at 30 and continue to increase in desireability until about 50.
From the largest study ever done on the subject...
"For women, the data suggests a steady decline in desirability as age advances. The average woman’s desirability, as perceived by men, appears to drop consistently from the age of 18 until she reaches 60. In contrast, men experience a different journey, with their desirability peaking around the age of 50 before gradually declining."
06 Reply
Opinion Owner+1 y@wolfcat87 It seems you misread my comments, or simply didn't understand them. I intentionally used the term desireability rathers that phyisical attractin for a reason. Try reading more carefully, and thinking a little more deeply about them next time.
- +1 y
Men age, just like women. I disagree that they continue to become more desirable into middle age. Except to women their own age, whom are likewise more desirable to their men. Although maybe not physically.
Opinion Owner+1 y@HappyWoman34 And yet study after study shows you're wrong. I suppose if you're willing to dismiss science, it's easy enough to deludee yourself, which is fine for you. Meanwhile, the real world carries on without you.
- +1 y
Except science shows she's right.
www.researchgate.net/.../Male-attractiveness-ranking-by-age-R-2-0551_fig1_240186962
Opinion Owner+1 y@wolfcat87 Again, you're talking about attrractiveness rather than desireability. They are two very different things, and the difference is very relevant here.
Which part of that are you still struggling with? If you can be speccific, I may be able to help clear up your confusion.
Not from what I've seen. If you take care of yourself, you can look great throughout your life, man or woman. My mom is almost fifty, and she's gorgeous. More so than in her 20s if you ask me.
Not to generalize, but these days I'm seeing men hit the wall at 30 more often than women. Balding, dad bods, bad hygiene, and haircuts. So much of it seems like just not caring for themselves. Genetics play into things, of course, but even average people can drastically improve their looks by a little more attentive care to themselves, in all manners.
Regardless, I think 'the wall' itself is stupid. We enter new ages of attractiveness. Sure, when you're 60 you might not have the youthful beauty of a 24-year-old. But you can enhance natural elegant beauty, which is a lot more timeless as well. None of us should be afraid of aging. Instead of trying to stop the process, we should be learning how to maximize our different stages in life.
21 Reply- +1 y
No you dont understand what the wall is. Your men start cheating with you at that age, a 20 year old prostitute is a few hundred dollars. Your free ride is done, welcome to being a plaything. 30+ year olds skin disgusts men, we grin and bear it, because we want a toy. you're garbage. lets not even talk about 40. The more you talk shit the worse it will be for all you sad twats.
1 yThe concept of "the wall" is a fiction.
There is no "wall" that people slam into. It's not like someone is 29/39 and looks fine, then wake up the next day on their birthday and scream "Nooooooo!" like Darth Vader when they look in the mirror.
Looks decline over time for both men and women. It does happen more slowly for men, due to things such as our skin composition, but it is inevitable for both sexes.
On top of this, not all decline in physical attractiveness over time is actually _caused_ by time. There's also often a significant weight gain and health decline over time caused by things like overeating and lack of exercise, which significantly decrease physical attractiveness.
If a person takes optimal care of themselves, they can be attractive for far longer before they look like they hit "the wall," and this applies to both men and women.
00 Reply1.1K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Women " hit the wall " condition dependent around 50 , menopause is the big black elephant , that just destroys many , but it's possible to go beyond for sure if you are very diet and exercise focused , and understand the killer that processed foods are.
Now , men can go vastly linger , but all the same stuff applies , they need to be highly sexual , diet and exercise processed , ready for action.
You need to compare yourself with these best and not be some slob sitting in a bar.
But to say women " Hit the wall " at 30 , that's not true , there best and most sensible years can be between 30 - 50 .
But the two real " wild cards " for women , and every woman is different are child birth , menopause, and weight control , these are the key to living well in later life.00 Reply- 3.8K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic.
+1 yI hit the wall years ago but I reversed it with knowledge. I had liver problems and took 50 different types of supplements and now I’m healthier than I was at 18. I also look younger cause I find vitamin B works better than lotion or retinol at clearing and smoothing out the skin. I have not reached my ideal body yet but I believe reaching it will be easy and effortless cause I’ve lost 6 pounds in 2 days before without exercise or hunger. I just have to wait it out month by month til I get there.
01 Reply- +1 y
My vitamin B1 made me lose 6 pounds in 2 days.
+1 yWall is not actually a thing. Have seen women in their 60s that look better than women in their 20s. All of it comes down to choices. Make good decisions and you maintain that youth far longer than making bad choices. I am 39 and still get carded if I go to order alcohol because I have made good choice and I look like I am maybe 20. If I shave I look like a 14 year old. My wife also gets carded and she is a couple years older than me but because she also made good choices and takes care of herself she looks like she is early 20s
10 Reply
Anonymous(25-29)+1 yMost men are born at the wall and never even get a chance to be attractive/desired tbh
Women are desired basically their whole life's. We don't even need to attractive.
The men talking about the wall tend to be the ones that are jealous of women for getting attention their whole life's while they ain't getting any attention.
824 Reply- +1 y
The wall doesn’t have anything to do with a women’s beauty. It doesn’t really have anything to do with a women’s desirability either. Women hit the wall at 30 which means she’s past her golden years aka the 20’s. The 20’s are the golden years because it’s the years of peak beauty and fertility. A man may still date a 30 year old women but he won’t look at her the same as if she was in her 20’s. That’s it, that’s all it is and I also gave you the main reasons for so but more pointedly it does become harder for women to date after 30 and men are mostly just going to want sex more or less nothing too long term. Men on the other hand become Silver Foxes in the long run, men will always win because men can play the long game. These are the stereotypes and often times many stereotypes are based in some level of truth. Women become crazy cat lady’s, men silver foxes. Don’t shoot the messenger.
Opinion Owner+1 y@SinCityLucky7 women have the highest fertility in their late 20s-early 30s. Before that is can be a risk to our health to have a baby. Women really hit their peaks for mostly everything in their 30s-40s. Men peak early in their 20s.
And sliver foxes 🤮 greying hair ain't cute to younger women. And I plan to become a crazy cat lady regardless if my husband is around or not. Cats are amazing 🐈- +1 y
@SinCityLucky7 False, women agree that men peak in their 20's as well.
www.researchgate.net/.../Male-attractiveness-ranking-by-age-R-2-0551_fig1_240186962
Opinion Owner+1 y@wolfcat87 exactly. They peak hormonal wise at that time as well. Testosterone and strength peak in the 20s for men. That's why most pro athletes retire at 30
- +1 y
Here I explained it a little wrong. Women can still be beautiful at older ages yes. It has nothing to do with women’s physical beauty consciously yes. Hitting the wall is more a psychological subconscious feeling men experience and may not notice when interacting with a women he knows is older. I have a good analogy and I’ve experienced this feeling myself before when I was 27 dating a 37 year old. Hitting the wall is like last years model of iPhone. It can even be a brand new never used iPhone but the problem is is that it’s last generations iPhone or maybe even a few generations old and men want the new generation of iPhone. It doesn’t mean a man won’t date you but a man may experience the feeling of having the last generation model of iPhone and wanting the latest. He will look at younger women with a look that he wouldn’t with an older women. Do you understand me now. Beauty and fertility at least consciously have nothing to do with it, it’s really the knowing factor and knowing that there are more young hot women out there. Beauty and fertility may have something to do with it subconsciously and that’s especially true if the over 30 year old has signs of aging. Sorry it’s little hard to explain but I think I did it right just now.
- +1 y
@apple1996Here I explained it a little wrong. Women can still be beautiful at older ages yes. It has nothing to do with women’s physical beauty consciously yes. Hitting the wall is more a psychological subconscious feeling men experience and may not notice when interacting with a women he knows is older. I have a good analogy and I’ve experienced this feeling myself before when I was 27 dating a 37 year old. Hitting the wall is like last years model of iPhone. It can even be a brand new never used iPhone but the problem is is that it’s last generations iPhone or maybe even a few generations old and men want the new generation of iPhone. It doesn’t mean a man won’t date you but a man may experience the feeling of having the last generation model of iPhone and wanting the latest. He will look at younger women with a look that he wouldn’t with an older women. Do you understand me now. Beauty and fertility at least consciously have nothing to do with it, it’s really the knowing factor and knowing that there are more young hot women out there. Beauty and fertility may have something to do with it subconsciously and that’s especially true if the over 30 year old has signs of aging. Sorry it’s little hard to explain but I think I did it right just now.
- +1 y
@Apple1996 Here I explained it a little wrong. Women can still be beautiful at older ages yes. It has nothing to do with women’s physical beauty consciously yes. Hitting the wall is more a psychological subconscious feeling men experience and may not notice when interacting with a women he knows is older. I have a good analogy and I’ve experienced this feeling myself before when I was 27 dating a 37 year old. Hitting the wall is like last years model of iPhone. It can even be a brand new never used iPhone but the problem is is that it’s last generations iPhone or maybe even a few generations old and men want the new generation of iPhone. It doesn’t mean a man won’t date you but a man may experience the feeling of having the last generation model of iPhone and wanting the latest. He will look at younger women with a look that he wouldn’t with an older women. Do you understand me now. Beauty and fertility at least consciously have nothing to do with it, it’s really the knowing factor and knowing that there are more young hot women out there. Beauty and fertility may have something to do with it subconsciously and that’s especially true if the over 30 year old has signs of aging. Sorry it’s little hard to explain but I think I did it right just now.
- +1 y
@Apple1996
Here I explained it a little wrong. Women can still be beautiful at older ages yes. It has nothing to do with women’s physical beauty consciously yes. Hitting the wall is more a psychological subconscious feeling men experience and may not notice when interacting with a women he knows is older. I have a good analogy and I’ve experienced this feeling myself before when I was 27 dating a 37 year old. Hitting the wall is like last years model of iPhone. It can even be a brand new never used iPhone but the problem is is that it’s last generations iPhone or maybe even a few generations old and men want the new generation of iPhone. It doesn’t mean a man won’t date you but a man may experience the feeling of having the last generation model of iPhone and wanting the latest. He will look at younger women with a look that he wouldn’t with an older women. Do you understand me now. Beauty and fertility at least consciously have nothing to do with it, it’s really the knowing factor and knowing that there are more young hot women out there. Beauty and fertility may have something to do with it subconsciously and that’s especially true if the over 30 year old has signs of aging. Sorry it’s little hard to explain but I think I did it right just now. - +1 y
@SinCityLucky7 How many times are you going to repeat yourself?
Opinion Owner+1 y@Siri137 he's trolling the same shit on every post 😂
- +1 y
@Siri137 Do you get it now? Your men start cheating with you at that age, a 20 year old prostitute is a few hundred dollars. Your free ride is done, welcome to being a plaything
- +1 y
Do you get it now? Your men start cheating with you at that age, a 20 year old prostitute is a few hundred dollars. Your free ride is done, welcome to being a plaything
- +1 y
@Apple1996 stop saying stupid shit. You know half the opinions you post on this site are blatant falsehoods
Opinion Owner+1 y@Kingofkings1992 obviously wasn't stupid to the 8 women that liked my opinion
- +1 y
@Apple1996 who cares? Women are just overgrown children
Opinion Owner+1 y@Kingofkings1992 almost all women are extremely mature and do not act like childern. Men have a literal name for acting like overgrown childern and it's called being a manchild. Women don't have a name for that 🤷♀️
- +1 y
“Almost all women are extremely mature.”https://media0. giphy. com/media/fVJ7R7rEGeSW5sk3c5/200w. gif
- +1 y
Opinion Owner+1 y@Kingofkings1992 lol whats the link for? It didn't show
- +1 y
@Apple1996 that’s because women ARE children
Opinion Owner+1 y@Kingofkings1992 oh I see now
Opinion Owner+1 y@Kingofkings1992 we acutally just make childern 🤰
Anonymous(30-35)+1 yNo it’s very true……. I know plenty of old women. That grew bitter. Over the years.
what makes women attractive is fertility, youth, beauty , Health.
And things that favor the young. once a woman crosses 30 , They have a lot more competition I personally don’t date or sleep with anyone over 28. And that’s not going to change Girls hate it…….. hey they have preferences So do I 🤷♂️ Il take a night in bed with a attractive 23 year old Vs Some half expired 33 year old……….as for men, It’s only certain men. If you’re attractive. You get sweeter with age. Younger girls love salt and pepper. Especially if you’re in shape. And live a good life……. Good job, handsome, No kids……. You become prime relestate. In the dating world
I’ve seen it. And experience it. Even now. Younger girls are drawn to me like hot cakes. And the older ones put me off, No thanks
10 Reply- 1K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic.
+1 yTo be brutally frank, one of the key differences between men and women is that only women can bear offspring. So yes, 30 is a very significant age for a woman because it is when her fertility begins to decline. It is at its peak from her late teens to age 30 and then starts to decline making it less likely that she can bear children. So if "hitting the wall" refers to attractiveness to opposite sex I would say yes, most men find women under 35 to be in the most attractive age range. And that is not just arbitrary. Nature clearly designed men to seek out and be attracted to fertile women because that's the only reason we are able to be here today to discuss this.
02 Reply- +1 y
You would know! 😉
8K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. I think the issue for some men is her fertility. Many women can have kids in their early 40s.
43 Reply
Asker+1 yI was thinking about freezing my eggs so I can have bio kids whenever I wanted. But for both men and women I think 30s/40s is the latest you should be having kids, so you can physically take care of them and be there for them. I’ve seen people complain about having an “old dad”
3.2K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Youthful beauty disappears at age of 25, however lot of women transform in another type of attractiveness. I would call it classy beauty and this lasts a while. Some women look even beyond 40 attractive. However this is very individual and being tall and slender seems to bring some benefits. Fit body is always an advantage.
Men don't attract mainly with appearance, so that's why "wall" question is for them less relevant.10 Reply
Anonymous(30-35)+1 yThere is no "wall" for either sex. It's a desireability continuum, but it is true that continuum is different for men and women. It's a well established fact that women are at tehir most desireable between ages 18 and 25, and decline steadilly after that. But that doesn't mean they hit some kind of wall and are suddenly no longer desireabe. It doesn't work that way.
Men only begin to hit their stride in their nlate 20s or early 30s, and continue to increase in desireability for at least a decade after that, and in fact some studies say they don't begin declining until 50.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/women-online-daters-peak-at-age-18-men-peak-at-50-2018-08-17
10 ReplyI’ve never heard of that expression. Don’t women hit their peak in their 40’s?
In any case, 99% of the women I know in life or work that are 30+ still look good, dress well and don’t look their age. Gone are the days when 50 yr old women dress like an old grandmother, with grey hair scraped back in a bun, apron on over a flowered dress!00 Reply726 opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. I believe women hit the wall at age 27 when they have lost more than half their sexual market value and they are leftover women; called Christmas cakes in Japan and Oranges at the bottom of the basket in China.
Regardless, whether it is age 27 or age 30, women hit the wall at an earlier age than men.
00 Reply- 469 opinions shared on Society & Politics topic.
+1 yNo, I know plenty of men and women in their late 40 and early 50 that still "got it going on". I think it's much more individual and a lot of has to do with self confidence, if people lose their confidence, then they will hit some kind of wall for sure.
00 Reply Not at all, people only tell me I got hotter… and I finally look at least mid 20s+
Just own what you have no matter what age and life stage~ 😌50 Reply- 1K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic.
+1 yNope I hit the wall yesterday, walking out of the elevator, shit hurt no cap
37 Reply
Asker+1 yYou are 22, would you date a woman in her 30s?
- +1 y
Yea I would, actually I've seen many that look like they are in their 20s, mid to late 20s
- +1 y
How did what happen? Lol
- +1 y
I was joking lol
Anonymous(45 Plus)+1 yWomen hit the wall. Men can be fine well into old age. You can hate it but it's true. What's sad for women is that despite millions of youtube videos etc of women crying and complaining when they've hit the wall, young women never listen to them. So the cycle is doomed to repeat.
10 Reply
Anonymous(25-29)+1 y😆 THATS THE BIGGEST LIE OF THE DECADE 😆
BECAUSE FEMALES WILL ALWAYS BE MORE DESIRED THAN MALES, ALWAYS, REGARDLESS OF AGE.
HAVE YOU SEEN HOW MUCH MILF “ XXX is out there?
https://www.youtube.com/embed/nG8Fc75bCtcWatch this 👆👆, A video made by a male, about these “Age Like Fine Wine Copers” 😆😆😆
01 Reply
Opinion Owner+1 y@Asker
Anonymous(25-29)+1 yFor all I know, most people I've spent my time with who are in their 30s and 40s are actually thriving. In the best shape of their lives, doing what they love, finding new opportunities and discovering new hobbies.
We all do our own thing in our own pace at our own time.00 Reply
Anonymous(25-29)+1 yreproductively speaking it's probably about 25 for both. that's when males sperm start to really take a dive, and also females milk production capabilities. they can still reproduce but the chances of healthy kids will reduce significantly after that
02 Reply
Opinion Owner+1 ya lot of things change after puberty. not only your ability to reproduce, but also things like obesity come into play, and you will get fat much quicker. many people like to use examples of old guys, saying, oh this 70 year old is still in great health, so i'll use an example from the opposite end of the spectrum. some men start losing their hair by the time they're in their teens. generally speaking, as a guideline, on exercise machines, if you look at the number of reps you can do, you will see that they advice for 11-12 year olds to do the most number of sets, and less sets for each year after that. it means that your body begins to decline after about puberty, and therefore can handle less work each year after that. it's like a flower blosoming and then just declining after that. when it comes to eating, your body may not really notice any siginificant change until after 30. that is to say, you can still eat junk food up until maybe 30, then you will start noticing many things that you can't eat. but even things like insomnia, and mental illness will come into play after puberty. you;ll find that many people found that they could manage their mental healths and insomnia prior to puberty, but afterwards, it starts to disrupt their lives in major ways
Opinion Owner+1 yanother thing that happens fairly early is vision. believe it or not, that starts to slowly fade after about 25 or so. and even hearing. if you look at hearing loss, it's also similar, although a persons hearing also begins to fade after puberty, you may not notice it because it happens so slowly, and not in a way that would affect our ordinary lives but none the less if you do the high pitch noise test, you will be able to gauge a humans reduced ability at hearing after puberty
I don't know about the numbers, but women do age faster than men.. most of the couples I see who about the same age, the woman usually looks older.. hitting the wall as being kinda past your prime, that I can understand.. but treating people like machines with expiry dates and pure value , that's degrading and just cringe !..
00 Reply
+1 yIt's hard to say; I'm 46 and still haven't hit any wall...
36 Reply- +1 y
- +1 y
1.2K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. It doesn't make any sense to me and I don't give much of a shit if others consider it to be true.
To me, there is no such thing as hitting the wall.10 Reply- 1.9K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic.
+1 yI'm turning 52 soon.
If there was a wall "in my way", I just went right through it.
22 Reply- +1 y
@DeeDeeDeVour, you’re the most stunning 🤩 51-yr-old I have ever personally met! Plus, no walls can stop your awe-inspiring confidence! 👍
- +1 y
881 opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. No, it's all genetics and how we take care of ourselves.
I have a buddy that looked like he was in his mid 30s when we were 20. I'm turning 35 this year and people still think I look mid 20s.
20 Reply- 4.8K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic.
+1 yi believe that lady by age 29 if not in a marriage is very rare to find a guy for long term relationship like hitting a wall. possible but rare.
00 Reply If you want to get technical it's actually women who totally hit the wall at age 40, when they not only lose their looks but also basically can't have children, so their value gets very low.
21 Reply
+1 yI have seen girls get more hornier n hot once she cross 30... so i disagree ma'am.
30 Reply
Anonymous(36-45)+1 yWtf is a wall 😅 I don’t give a rats azz what a man has to offer. In my teens they’re annoying, in my 20’s they’re gross, in my thirties they’re not on my radar and I have need care what they are gonna be next in my life. I’ve been single all my life - hit whatever wall u want but I don’t care about you
00 Reply1.3K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Give me an older more experienced woman any day.
They know what they want and aren't afraid to ask for it.10 Reply
+1 yThere is no wall. You are either attractive or you aren't. If you were attractive at 20 there are still people gonna be attracted to you at 50.
00 Reply
+1 yWhat a horrible stereotype. Please don’t repeat it. Be better.
10 Reply- 6.3K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic.
+1 yI'm well past 40 and I have yet to see a wall.
10 Reply
1 yI hit the wall and then climbed over it... :D
00 Reply314 opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. You can hit the wall anytime. Regardless your age.
00 Reply- 824 opinions shared on Society & Politics topic.
+1 yI ain’t ever gonna hit the wall… I’m going on 34 and still look and feel like I’m 20 lol.
00 Reply I read a quote that goes something like “Don’t worry about getting old, worry about thinking old”.
00 Reply- 7.4K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic.
+1 yused to think that. not true.
you hit the wall when you hit the wall...
00 Reply - 6.3K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic.
+1 yYou can only hit a wall when you ignore it.
Therefore - those who crash did nothing against it.
00 Reply
+1 yIf a woman has misaligned values such as a focus on vanity, she’s already hitting the wall way before 25. Look honestly don’t mean crap.
00 Reply
Anonymous(36-45)+1 yNo. and the wall only exists in the biological sense. Women hit that wall when menopause happens, Men dont really hit that wall, as they remain potent until death. Otherwise the wall simply does not exist.
00 Reply"Hitting the wall" is just a metaphor. It has no basis in reality. You are only "too old" if you think you are. I don't think one is ever too old to improve oneself.
00 Reply27.1K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Everyone hits the wall at a different rate. Genetics and lifestyle make a big difference
00 Reply
Anonymous(30-35)+1 yThe most attractive women I can honestly think of are all over age 30. This wall thing needs to go die in a fire.
00 Reply- 343 opinions shared on Society & Politics topic.
+1 yI feel like some young men these days are hitting the wall in their 20s :(
00 Reply
+1 yNo. Utter garbage. As long as I have a pulse, I have not “hit the wall.”
00 Reply
+1 yPeople can hit the wall at any age the moment they stop caring about themselves.
00 ReplyMen hit the wall immediately after being born.
00 Reply
+1 y30 is way too young for women. And it depends on the woman. I’d say it’s 40 for women, 50 for men.
00 Reply
Anonymous(30-35)+1 yIt depends on how they look. A gorgeous 30-year-old will beat an ugly 20-year-old any day. Then there are factors like fertility/money/values. Women or men don't hit the wall, however, they may not get the partner that they crave anymore.
00 Reply- Show More (18)
What Are You Thoughts On Men Saying Women Hit The Wall At Age 30?
Learn more
We're glad to see you liked this post.
You can also add your opinion below!
Girl's Behavior
Guy's Behavior
Flirting
Dating
Relationships
Fashion & Beauty
Health & Fitness
Marriage & Weddings
Shopping & Gifts
Technology & Internet
Break Up & Divorce
Education & Career
Entertainment & Arts
Family & Friends
Food & Beverage
Hobbies & Leisure
Other
Religion & Spirituality
Society & Politics
Sports
Travel
Trending & News