What do you think is causing the mating crisis in the United States of America?

[CriticalCatDad123]

- The Mating Crisis: Why the dating market is doomed - https://youtu.be/txRSxee7gDo?si=WD6o7HRKZtZ93gxY
- "College is becoming the domain of women and not men," - www.businessinsider.com/growing-trend-fewer-men-in-college-leading-to-mating-crisis-2021-9
- Chris Williamson: Why men & women are giving up on love - https://youtu.be/xCnK5lN8CgY?si=1yFM3Hfy8ZfONDXS

[KrakenAttackin]

Feminism, YOLO, hot girl summer, hoe culture, social media, and dating apps, and "family courts", have killed marriage and the family.

[Filthy_Immigrant]

women being more stuckups than ever. till the point we men just no longer see a point in chasing them.

[OlderAndWiser]

What crisis? If a few YT videos are enough proof to assume there is a dating crisis, then we must also assume that the earth is flat, because there are a few YT videos on that subject.

People are waiting later to get married, and that is a good thing.

Fewer people are getting married, and I am not sure that is a good thing. If those who aren't getting married are the ones who would get married and divorce within a few years, then that is a good thing but. . . it doesn't take marriage to "mate," and that is what your question is about.

Every time I hear something about this subject, it is coming from someone who has either never tried to date, or tried a few times and failed. Many of those people can't imagine that there is something wrong WITHIN them that needs to be fixed, and they would rather blame every member of the opposite sex, or blame the institution if dating, or the institution of marriage. Meanwhile, every time I go to the mall, I see young couples strolling hand in hand. And every time I am on a college campus (almost weekly,) I see couples walking across campus, in the cafeteria and pubs, on the college greens, etc.

WHAT mating crisis?

[CriticalCatDad123]

Why aren't men going to college? There are more women going to and graduating college than men. Which is why people are claiming there's a mating crisis as people tend to meet their partner while attending college and with more women attending college/university compared to men they're not meeting anyone.

[OlderAndWiser]

Yes, fewer men are attending college but perhaps that is a good thing. We don't really need more people with degrees in philosophy and art history.

I think the problem with young men is that they have grown up conducting their lives in the digital world, texting instead of talking, avoiding person-to-person interactions, and now they have low social skills. But I would not call it a crisis. Perhaps it is only social Darwinism in action.

[Chazmatazz269]

Marriage and childbirth rates are at very low rates. One article i read suggested the lowest in a century. There are articles all over the internet, including by mainstream news organizations, addressing what is being widely reported by both men and women as growing difficulty in meeting quality mates and what is being called a “loneliness epidemic”. It’s not “just a few videos on YT”. There’s merit to the question and your dismissiveness reflects your ignorance, not men’s (or women’s) lack of social skills.

[OlderAndWiser]

@Chazmatazz269
www.statista.com/.../

www.cdc.gov/.../marriage_rate_2018.htm

The sky is falling.

[Massageman]

Thank you.

[juliaanita]

thank you for your thoughtful input, O&W

[dragoblack]

It's because of insecure people not working on themselves to get over those insecurities, but instead they take it out on others.
Men can't take rejection without getting butthurt.
women have unrealistic expectations, and many abuse the fact men pay for dates thinking it's mandatory.
Women get ick over the most frivolous common things guys do.
People keep ghosting each other at the slightest inconvenience or awkwardness, instead of working passed it.
Most relationships start from hookups instead of getting to know each other. (From experience) women get turned off at guys wanting to get to know them.
Women constantly try to find nonexistent subtext to the words guys say.
Both people don't talk out relationship issues, but instead yell at the top of their lungs and throw things at each other, like monkeys.
Dating is treated like some mental gymnastics mind game, instead of just 2 people attracted to each other, getting to know each other, while going out doing fun and romantic stuff.
Men are always being bombarded with solicitation on dating apps/sites to join women's onlyfans or sexcam streaming site as false positives to matches.
When men do get matches on date apps/sites its either 1 word replies or no replies at all.
Women get turned off about the fact men have emotions and inner emotional stress from holding it in.
There are too many men who can't control themselves and go dick first into everything. Almost everyone has little to no emotional intelligence and/or maturity.
So yeah, the issue is people always want convenience to their mental ideal, but can't handle facing reality and seeing people as people.

[HighValue]

Because more women have liberal views/morals (severe immorality) and more men have conservative morals. That makes many totally incompatible.

The low quality liberal men (simps) make it worse by approving of and encouraging women to be immoral and promiscuous in hopes of getting one.

It is worse in the USA because good quality American men can get more conservative women from multiple other countries, where as the women from here are by a large majority, unwanted elsewhere. On top of that, there are 90 men for every 100 women in the USA, so it is going to get quite a bit worse for many of them in the near future.

The often weak and more feminine men (simps) in the USA are unwanted elsewhere in the world, so most of them will be single forever too.

[jennifer_bloom]

The thing my friends at school always told me is that relationships fail cause they chase their relationship instead of chasing their morals and principles. I know people who choose family and religion over their romantic relationship and most of them married the first person they ever dated. Not directly from low body count but because they did not have the same type of struggles that worldly people have in finding a person. The more worldly you are, the more difficult it is to find somebody to marry and the more difficult it is to maintain a marriage.

[JacobJordan]

We all know. The me too movement, feminazi's, western women (not all but a sufficient very loud group), false accusations, child support bullshit, paternity fraud, casual sex, etc etc etc. Can get a woman a million times better in most any other country.

[wiltingrosepetal]

Gender wars. Women had metoo, men had Andrew Tate. Now we're suffering from the fall out of that. All women are sluts, all men are rapists. Women manipulate men and take their money, men hurt women and force them to carry their children.

These rage-baiting rhetorics aren't just fictional, they're ruining my generation's perception on love. There's no one side at fault for this, it's both of us

[FunkyMonkee]

The woke idiots! Also, funny you should ask that because I just started watching a video on that last night.
(Careful;, this broad doesn't know how to say, "women"!)

https://www.youtube.com/embed/8Uunxssesp0

[juliaanita]

Is it your thesis that, not only is this "problem" our fault, but also that the solution is that we should be less inclined to serve our own interests and more inclined serve what men think is best for us?

Geez, I'm sorry I went to university. not.

[Babygirl_S]

Because people are measuring things like someone's canthal tilt to choose them. The overemphasis on appearance is surprising. I didn't even know about all of these terms. Clearly it's not a thing out here. If you're thin and medium to light skinned, you're good to go. More Indians are accepting dark skin as well despite centuries of racism. When darker skinned Indians say they struggled to find a partner India I simply ask them how many times a westerner has told them they smelled of curry or their radiant skin was "muddy or sh*t coloured". Clearly even the best looking Indians like Aishwarya, Deepika etc. are considered inferior out there just because they're Indians. So I think dating is hard for many people because they're not white. For others, the distance between their upper lip and nose is ruining their chances.

[NaultD]

40 plus hour work week. Lack of "third places" malls, parks, things like that. The reliance of cars and gas spreading everything in isolated locations and now too expensive. Internet can fill the need at your pace in your own home.

That hurts meeting people. For the people together. Material needs. Income to provide. Housing to provide. Family members coming together and support.

[Chazmatazz269]

I definitely wouldn’t describe it as a “crisis”, but quality mates are getting fewer and farther between for both sexes. I, for one, am pleasantly surprised that more people aren’t still breeding though. Historically, the lowest quality people were more likely to breed indiscriminately. If everyone is making even slightly better choices, that’s a good thing!

[avery58]

I don't know but I don't see it as a bad thing. My state is becoming an overpopulated shithole as it is

[Goahead76]

What state may I ask?

[avery58]

@Goahead76 Florida

[CriticalCatDad123]

Better than California

[avery58]

True. But it seems it's heading down a similar path

[CriticalCatDad123]

How so?

[avery58]

Not in a political sense, as Florida is becoming a Republican state. But we're getting a lot of people from other states, or countries (especially from Venezuela) moving here, and it has really taken a toll on the standard of living. I know part of it has to do with inflation and it's a problem across the country, there's a supply vs demand factor contributing as well. For example, less than 10 years ago, you could rent a nice 2 bedroom for $500-600, nowadays it's a miracle if you find one at $1200, the average is $1k more than a few years ago

[avery58]

The average for a 2 bedroom being around $1300-1500. And as a Florida native, I can say there's a big difference even in the amount of traffic we're getting

[CriticalCatDad123]

My mom has an apartment in Ft Myers for work. I went down there once and the rush hour traffic was insane thankfully we didn’t have to take that route to get anywhere. I don’t know Joe much my mom and aunt pay for rent there but I’m sure it’s insane given how EVERYTHING has gone up. My rent here in Michigan went from $760 to $810 for a 1 bedroom apartment.

[Goahead76]

@avery58 Yeah that's exactly what stopped me from going there, I strongly considered it, took several trips to look at potential areas but eventually changed my mind for exactly the reasons you listed.

[monorprise]

1: Educational discrimination against men,
2: Bad cultural relationships advice.
3: Toxic cultural influences for both sexes.

[Madlc]

Men and women fucking each other like dog mating season but it’s everyday.

westerners made sex as an activity instead of making at a intimate bond.

I blame the men for this because women are followers at the end.

It’s the men who decide, how a woman culturally behaves.

that’s why you can easily know a country’s men by looking at their women’s behaviour.

[LazerBean]

Stuff like that are all just common consequences of promiscuity. The dating and marriage world of the non promiscuous is still thriving.

[normalice]

The internet has made men think they should be able to find infinite women without putting themselves out there.

[abc3643]

They wouldn't be "broke and alone" men if they stopped fucking playing video games and streaming all the time.

[exitseven]

I dids not know there was a mating crisis. There seems to be plenty of people getting married.

[jshm2]

Too many retards giving birth to inbreds. It was bound to cause these situations.

[AngryCarl]

Who wants to date an uneducated bozo?