Why is it so wrong to be "woke"?

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

Woke just originated as meaning being aware of racial and social injustice. Now radical right wingers throw it around as an insult for anyone they don't agree with. So why is it so wrong to call out injustice where you see it?

I personally believe the reason people are so opposed to it is that they are scared they will lose their power over others. It's the same arguments they made when women fought for equal rights and the same stuff when different minorities fought for theirs.

Be civil, or I will remove comments.

[NamerOfStars]

Because it's a euphemism for "bigoted". It's an assumption that blatant racism and sexism are acceptable, no long as they're done in the "correct" direction. Likewise, openly incorrect information- even in matters of cold hard fact- is equally valid so long as it comes from the "right kind" of people. You can see that in the word itself- "woke" is the past tense of "wake"; it's a verb, not an adjective. The adjective would be "awakened". Why, then, use an incorrect form of the word that makes you look, frankly, stupid? Because the movement arose from people who apparently were followed home from school and beaten up by correct grammar. But since those people have the "correct" skin color, it's seen as just fine.

Bigotry is an ugly thing, and it does not become less ugly simply because it's your bigotry. "Alternative facts" and "my truth" are just two names for the same idea: that lying is okay when *I* do it.

To make matters worse, this idea is just perpetuating the social and economic imbalances it's allegedly trying to fix. I'm of Irish extraction, myself, and I knew the two of my great-grandparents who came here from Ireland. Today, in the US, the Irish are just a subtype of white people; at the time, we were (in the eyes of American society) albino niggers. I know that sounds incredibly harsh, and it is, but it's also true- nearly every stereotype you hear about black people today- hell, that you heard about black people sixty years ago- you heard about us a century back. Uneducated? Violent thugs? Gathering together in tenement slums where crime is so bad that police refuse to enter them? Cooking that smells terrible? Amazing music? Check, check, check, check, and check.

All that was over with long before I was born, but it wasn't ended by discrimination in our favor; it was ended by building our communities into something better, and leading the charge- very often literally- in the labor movement, and labor wars (I have ancestors who fought at Blair Mountain). Training people to sit back and expect to be rewarded because their ancestors were made to suffer at the hands of powerful inhuman monsters isn't going to make them stronger; it's going to make them dependent on you, and unable to stand on their own. Good for certain politicians' reelection campaigns; lousy for society as a whole.

And that's just the racial side of the equation; the gender one is even worse. The idea that women are legally discriminated against because certain states say that "consent to sex is consent to parenthood" (which it isn't when adoption still exists) sounds rich indeed when 41 states have laws or court rulings saying that, for men, possession of functioning genitals is consent to parenthood. Do women have problems? Of course. Do they have problems that arise specifically from their being women? Yes. But hearing claims of oppression from a class so privileged that they have an entire category of rights afforded to them specifically by dint of the very trait they claim is a cause of oppression is beyond ludicrous; asking why people object is like asking why the inhabitants of a homeless shelter don't like the billionaires who stop by to gripe about hikes in capital gains taxes.

The root of this is what you yourself have pointed out, though apparently not recognized- hypoagency and the presumption of power. I am straight, I am white, and I am male, and the movement consequently assumes I have more power than others. The time I spent living out of my car and literally scrounging by the side of the road to find dropped change so I could avoid starvation; the day when I woke up to find a half-dozen cockroaches crawling over my hand and nearly wept for joy at the thought of free protein; the jobs I've been denied because of the color of skin and the shape of my genitals; these are not experiences in the life of a powerful person.

There's nothing whatsoever wrong with pointing out injustice where you see it- but that's exactly what criticism of "woke" is. It's wrong. It gets criticized. And people like you reflexively assume it's about fear of losing power, as opposed to actually being fair.

[normalice]

Because right wing billionaires have spent lots of money creating a media atmosphere that makes it feel wrong. The problem is no one buys republican policies so they have to sell us culture wars, instead..

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

And this is what drives me nuts about republican ideals. If they would just stay away from the culture wars, I might even be a republican. Instead, they have to go after women's rights, lgbtq, DEI, and other things to rile up their rabid base because they just don't have a policy other than bow to Trump and get him elected so they can enact Project 2025.

[normalice]

Well, the whole problem is republicans already know their economic policies would be unpopular but they want to do them anyway. So they know they will never get what they want by being honest about what they want. Thus, their choice of words have ceased to be based on accuracy and instead based on producing the outcome they deaire. And getting us fighting mad at each other over culture war nonsense while they quietly sneak off with our tax money has worked out for them so far..

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

I don't disagree at all with this.

[menina]

Thank you so much for asking this question. There's ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WRONG with being WOKE. Bigots say it's wrong because they want to keep controlling certain groups of the population. They want people to think certain ways about certain human beings. They don't want to be challenged, they see it as a provocation. They're afraid of having their "perfect" world "destroyed".

Basically they believe that the world is theirs, so everything has to be like they want to.

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

First off, no problem! I knew it would attract some of the radicals on this site, but I'm glad that those with common sense are also posting. You're right. There is nothing wrong about caring for others. They really don't want to be challenged in their ways of life because they've been too comfortable for so long at the top.

[menina]

Yes, this kind of question is always controversial and you end up seeing some offensive and/or nonsensical answers.
Exactly, if we cared more about each other the world would be so much better! You're also right, that's really their problem.

[menina]

Thank you for the MHO. Also you're brave for asking this question, I admire you.

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

You're very welcome, and thank you as well.

[menina]

You're very welcome as well.

[Agape93]

Nowadays it's people who ignore reality in favor of a comfortable delusion, at the expense of those who disagree. Like msc545, as an example, doesn't understand that sometimes people need to hunt to feed themselves, and thought that beating animals to death was more fair because it meant neither me or the animal had a gun.

So on

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

Lmao Well, in all honesty, it would be more fair, but certainly not humane and certainly more deadly that way. You'd have to stick to something like a weasel, but you know there'd be some macho S. O. B. who'd try to take on a bear with a club just to prove a point.

I'll be honest, guns scare me personally, but I still believe that people have a right to own them and even, yes, to hunt.

I still don't think those who are considered woke are bad, there are just some who take it too far.

[Agape93]

Its quite a few who take it too far, sadly. Especially in Cali and Oregon. Extremists can spot extremists pretty easily.

[KostasKouvalis]

Don't blame the right for this, because it was the LEFT who redefined that term just like they redefined "White Supremacy". "Being aware of racial and social injustice that actually EXIST." There, I fixed that for ya. I don't see any alleged conspiracy to genocide black people, as they claim. Also, they only care about social injustices of SPECIFIC groups. They don't seem to care about the Jews, Russians and Christians that are being persecuted solely because of their ethnicity/religion. Also, it used to be that they were fighting for EQUAL rights, but now they're fighting for SPECIAL rights. The woke movement is an absolutely joke now, and definitely not what it was originally.

I think Bill Burr explains it pretty well, though the first part of what he said about the "Guchi booted feet", applies more to feminists, but the other stuff he said about White women is 100% spot on...

https://www.youtube.com/embed/AdO9X7Lxzvs

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

It, unfortunately, is the radical right who is abusing the term to try and downplay those who are fighting against injustice in this country. They even apply it to inanimate objects like M&M's and companies like Disney who are just trying to be more inclusive.

So no, you didn't fix anything for me.

Just because you don't see injustice doesn't mean it doesn't exist. I mean, people believe in their gods and they've never seen them, should we discount them too?

And yes, people will fight for things that affect them mostly. For example, a woman is more likely to oppose an abortion ban than a man would. She may not protest for Jews and Christians because she may not be as well versed in it. That just makes sense.

You'll have to forgive me for not taking the political advice of a comedian, much like I wouldn't take the advice of a Stephen Colbert.

[KostasKouvalis]

Aha, but it's well vested for people in countries that are 90% White hold rallies for some black guy that was killed in AMERICA? The same woman you're talking about in your example wasn't protesting for Jews and Christians, but was protesting for George Floyd and Hamas.

"They even apply it to inanimate objects like M&M's and companies like Disney who are just trying to be more inclusive."

You really don't see the bigger picture. Are black people really so insecure and have so little to be proud of that they have to appropriate WHITE characters? And if Ariel had bigger cultural impact than Black Panther, that's not our problem.

And please, give me some examples of what injustices you see occurring. I would really like to know, because you listed no specific examples.

[KostasKouvalis]

That comedian speaks more sense than politicians.

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

Again, people protest what affects them more. If they aren't religious or don't even agree with Jews and Christians, then, of course, they aren't going to protest for them.

I won't speak for what African Americans want or need as I'm not one (I'm Mexican/white), but I would assume like us, they would want role models for their children who look like them.

As for injustices, I'll point to three, abortion access for women, lgbt rights (right now the focus is on trans people, but some states are already gunning to ban gay marriage again which would affect me personally), and loans/lending to minorities compared to whites. Banks have and continue to give better rates to white borrowers than minorities.

[KostasKouvalis]

How does American cops killing a black man effect White people, especially in another country?

See, your second comment is logical. I will agree that those groups seem to lack positive role models, but I'm sick of people saying that's somehow OUR fault

I'll give you the abortion one, as I'm kind of neutral on the issue

The gay marriage one is logical since it effects you. I don't necessarily support it, though I'll admit I do find it strange that a law like that can just be reversed. Personally, I were president, I wouldn't repeal it and I think there are more important issues to worry about.

How are trans people being oppressed that concerns you?

The last one, I don't have any information on, so I can only speculate. But I will say, I think minorities are already getting quite a lot with affirmative action, DACA and welfare I think some states have even started to experiment with reparations.

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

It affects them because they have empathy towards another fellow human being despite their own race.

Trans people being oppressed affects me as a member of lgbt community, but also I have several trans friends who would be affected as well.

And for the last one, the Supreme Court is already ruling against affirmative action in colleges. It's just a matter of time before it's rules against other things, so they won't have that to fall back on either. Welfare is not just for minorities. In fact, a majority of welfare recipients are white (43%). African Americans come in second at (23%).

[KostasKouvalis]

But that's what I'm saying. Why only CERTAIN groups? Why just black, Muslims and Ukrainians? Why not Jews and Russians?

How exactly are they being oppressed?

GOOD, as they SHOULD

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

I can't say why they don't support those two groups though personally I don't have any love for Russian leadership.

Have you not seen all the trans laws going into effect around the country? Several places banning trans healthcare outright? Places like Florida making laws to prevent trans people from changing their drivers license and birth certificates? Places like Texas who have stated they are going after trans and gender non conforming people to get them out of the classroom?

[KostasKouvalis]

That sort of invalidates your argument though, because if you truly believe in social justice, than you can't pick and choose.

I'm certain there's more to it

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

I don't necessarily disagree, but maybe they aren't seeing an injustice there

[KostasKouvalis]

@menina blocked her replies. Tell her I said Liberals do the exact same thing. She literally described modern wokeness. I'm not denying that bigots/Conservatives try to tell people what to think, but woke Leftists do literally the same exact thing.

[_piotr]

As an avid hater of wokeness, I can tell you why.

Because being woke includes:

1) Racism towards white people,
2) Believing that one can change sex,
3) Radical men-hating feminism,
4) Culture of death - abortion and euthanasia,
5) Atheism
6) Totalitarian ruled society, in which you must obey or be canceled; strong propaganda,
7) Rejection of objective truth, historical truth, logic, etc...,
8 ) Glorification of disabilities, victimisation, fatness, mediocrity and so on instead of positive values, hard work and virtues, rejection of beauty and aesthetics,
9) Deep socialism,
10) Forced unification (everything needs to include mixed races, mixed cultures) and destruction of real diversity in the world,
11) Rejection of any moral authorities (including teachers and parents for children).
12) Promotion of egoism
13) Sexualization of children; inclusion of sex in entertainment, and many others aspects of life.
15) Inclusion of artificial problems like "cultural appropriation","racism towards orcs" in RPG fantasy games and so on,
16) Social "justice". Injustice based on premise that some people can be discriminated freely based on the grounds of their richness, skills, power, etc... If you are white men you can be discriminated because you are considered an enemy of the system. (REMEMBER: ""Justice and social justice are as similar to each other like a comfy armchair to an electric chair." Janusz Korwin-Mikke)
17) Exaggerated ecology and promotion of its bad conclusions: ordering the extermination of cattle, prohibiting meat, dairy and egg industries, shutting down production, forcing (not promoting) people to use things like electric cars, neglecting the pollution from China and other non Eoropean/USA parts of the world.
The list can go on...

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

1. Asking white people to give equality and blaming them for not giving it when asked, is not racism. It's just clearly who is at the top, rich, white men
2. They change their gender, not sex.
3. There are radicals, can't deny that. Though that's not feminism as a whole. I'm a feminist and I don't hate men.
4. The far right is also a culture of death - letting children starve by taking away free meals in school/ sending people off to war
5. Atheism is not about woke culture, just as being religious is not about anti-woke.
6. Radical right literally wants to install Trump as a dictator in the US. They have several networks as well as publications that push their agenda as well.
7. Examples?
8. Glorification of disabilities? You mean not treating them unequally? Geeze that's pathetic.
9. Maybe.
10. What is real diversity to you?
11. It's again the right who is taking away the decisions of those with authority such as doctors, parents, teachers when it comes to trans youth, and what is to be taught in schools (ie. PragerU controversy)
12. As opposed to giving yourself completely over to a religion and the selfish leadership that has been there for centuries?
13. Examples?
14. You just skipped 14.
15. And again the radical right is just as guilty with their fight against DEI and how sexy the green M&M is dressed now.
16. It's not that they are being discriminated against, people are just rallying against those who have and have always had the power in this nation, rich, white cis men.
17. How is anyone forcing someone to use an electric car? And also vegans gonna vegan.

[strateguy632]

superb list. i agree n add the element of fascism "forceful suppression" used by facebook twitter fandom n more to suppress the non woke opinions.
but antifa was never realy against fascism!

[strateguy632]

my praises to @_piotr

[_piotr]

@strateguy632 Thank you!

[NaultD]

Didn't the right hate victim mentality. Yet when woke was introduce the right went all in on being victims they themself dispise for a century.

Honestly what fucking losers.

Be smart about it.

https://youtu.be/G-kSu2QIxUs?si=EP2DE61FLs7GRaZn

[goaded]

There's nothing wrong with it. They just love to co-opt words or phrases and use them as insults (SJW, anyone?) or twist them into meaning "everything we don't like" to create a moral panic.

Remember Critical Race Theory? I haven't seen that for quite some time.

Looking at the Wikipedia page, it took about 7 years for the first 500 edits, the same for the next 500, then, in 2020/2021, 500 edits happened every six months or so, now traffic's getting back to normal again.

Fake News? That was literally made up crap dressed up as news until Trump claimed it meant anything critical of him.

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

I agree about them wanting to create a moral panic, mostly because they stand to lose their power over others. It's all a sham to rile up their base to fight on their behalf as if they had anything to personally lose.

[Syntosi]

It was an organized attack on that term. In other words, they were afraid of what it represented and wanted to snuff it out before it gained any more widespread appeal by tainting the word itself. I would care more if their actions were not as transparent as they are. The recent string of culture wars waged by the right wing such as against "wokism" is just not worth bothering about, especially when they will forget all about it themselves in a reasonably short timeframe like they do with all the other things they attacked previously.

[Still-alive]

it turns out being 'woke' means you aren't a racist, homophobe, transphobe, are generally more inclusive of diversity and overall a more empathetic person. so yeah not only is it not 'wrong' to be woke it's the preferred state of being to be in my opinion.

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

I agree. It shouldn't be a social crime to give a sh*t about other people and to make sure they have the same access to the rights you have.

[Still-alive]

exactly. and i remember seeing a statistic saying how most people see being 'woke' as a good thing actually. so its not this big bad thing that they want to make it out to be lol

[JesterRose]

Being aware of something and trying to push others into a view/belief/actions that they do not agree with is another.


I often run into this issue, I sit in the middle politically and don’t hold many social beliefs that would ruffle most feathers. But I often see the right and left slinging insults for being “x” or not being “y”. Both fully ignorant of the fact that the actions/tactics they despise in the other are the actions they themselves use.


I have no real liking for either side because I have listened to both and hear the same word games. Both would see everyone but them in chains of some form.

[Chazmatazz269]

It’s not the nature of being “woke” that’s wrong. It’s the way they’re going about it. The pushback has nothing to do with a power struggle. Contrary to popular belief, the people being most hurt by woke policies aren’t the ones in power, and they never have been.
Furthermore, it’s being pushed in ways and in places where it’s just unnecessary. Remaking old movies and TV shows just to race swap or gender swap the main characters? Why not just create new material? Develop compelling characters and write good stories, and nobody will bat an eye. But they’re pushing garbage onto the market that isn’t even attracting their target audiences, and then blaming poor reception on sexism and racism. Ell oh ell! It’s nonsense. It’s just the next stage of manufactured outrage. I definitely hope it’s the last, but it probably won’t be.

[strateguy632]

because woke presents stuff in a way that breeds hate... and desire for revenge and excludion.

and rips apart society n even families as jenifer lawrence n others led their MANY fans to "even attack nutral n family" who don't want to get involved.

Gillette making men look bad... people would rather START grow a beard than buy gilet shave products.

the exclusion of whites and of men in the "lie of inclusive" but excluded!

in jobs reserved places for minority to displace n replace whites instead of who is skilled. merit based. n other stuff already listed here n actually presented better than i could.

kudos to exit here and kost about excluded.

To @Jester about the bullying for example for pronoun n cis etc. n most superb the list by piotr 👨‍🎓🤩💖

[strateguy632]

wrong jester something went wrong with @ list
i was praising superb presentation by
@_piotr @JesterRose @exitseven @KostasKouvalis

[FunkyMonkee]

Well, look at how stupid those people are! Every word in the dictionary is now considered offensive! You can't say, "Hello" to any of them without them being triggered and starting a wild massive protest over it!!
You're not allowed to applaud because it might trigger one of them!! They act like a bunch of spoiled rotten little brats that always got their way!
They're absolutely intolerable!!
Woke started about 30 years ago and it was still called, "awake:" and meant that you should wake up and see what the hell the elites are doing to fuck you over! Some mental dwarf started calling it, "woke" because they didn't know any better and others of that ilk followed because they didn't know any better, either!
In the `60's, what are now called, "the woke" were FIGHTING the establishment!! Today, "the woke" ARE the establishment that we were trying to fight!!

[msmissydc]

Its not wrong. It never was wrong. It is just being used as a slur by those not wanting to be called out as homophobic, transphobic, sexist and racist. They kinda do our job for us by calling woke a problem while they actually call out themselve as the real problem.

[Anonymous]

1) Woke trans sexuals force people to use they/them is not good either
2) Woke Black people think slavery still exists and EVERY white person is bad and should be accountable for that
3) Woke Women think every men are evil and try to oppress them, same women go around saying "Kill all men"
4) Woke movies hate men and whites so much that they make a brown actor play Snow white
5) Woke people are Pro-Abortion ( It's a whole new discussion if you think it's not wrong)
6) Woke people support Trans women (Men) in women's sports thus destroying careers and dreams of Female athletes
7) Woke people think there are more than one gender and think Men can get pregnant
8) Woke people have made kids undergo gender change surgeries and woke teachers shove their ideologies to kids
9) Woke people in power give "Woman of the year" award to a Man (trans)
10) Woke people constantly annoy and bully the public with their "protests"

[David94358]

Because extremists should be avoided at all costs, looking at the extreme right, "woke" is the other side of that same coin.. and equally as idiotic and dangerous

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

I'm not sure I agree fully. There are extremists on the "woke" side, don't get me wrong, but it shouldn't hijack from the message itself which is their is still a lot of injustice going on for those in the LGBT community, for women's rights and for minorities in this country.

Bringing it up in protests just makes some uncomfortable, but in the end sometimes it's what is needed to bring about change.

[David94358]

The problem is LGBT+ woke and women's rights are at odds with each other.

Women's rights are being removed by the woke culture.

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

Explain.

How are women's rights being removed by woke culture? From what I've seen, it's the far right who have been at war with women's rights for years. Banning abortions in several states in this country and now a slow push to talk about appealing the 19th amendment because women typically vote more Democrat.

[David94358]

Women have the right to safe spaces, woke culture said that if I put on a wig and walk around your locker room naked with my cock flopping around you have to just shut up and accept it because all I have to do is say I'm trans and too bad for you. If you say anything you are labeled a bigot or a turf so you just have to hope I'm not some rapist pretending to be trans so I can get you alone in the locker room..

Also women are losing out on sport opportunities.. don't like that? Too bad bigot

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

I figured you'd go the trans route.

There's a difference between a sexual predator, whether they are cis or trans, and simply just a transgirl who is there to change and probably feels just as uncomfortable. I don't see you making the same arguments for transgender men using men's facilities with their tits and vag hanging out. It's always an argument against transwomen "to protect women". Seriously, I wouldn't care if I had to change with a transwoman there, and most women probably wouldn't either because we aren't staring at other people's genitals in the changing rooms.

I actually do happen to agree with the sports thing though. I didn't use to, but there are just going to be some advantages that someone who went through a male puberty are going to have over those who go through a female one. Sure, some advantages are lost after a year of being on hormones (like strength), but things like height, hand and foot size, etc are just not able to be changed. I don't necessarily agree they should be in women's sports unless the team itself was ok with it.

[David94358]

You are correct I don't care about women showing off their tits and pussies in the men's room because that does not have the same danger associated with it like a man does to a woman, men are the ones who violently rape, women do not.

Yes there is a difference between a trans and a sexual predator. But it's irrelevant because all a sexual predator has to to is pretend he is trans and he has legal and social access to his victims, and if he gets caught raping you? Well thanks to the woke culture he gets sent to female prison and is living his best life raping all the women he can..

Should to dive into the fact that women have been fighting for years to gain respect that they are more then just a nice ass and tits and all for the woke culture to erase that.. I mean all it takes now is a fake set of tits, dress and high heals to be a woman now right? How the hell are you not horribly offended by that?

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

You do realize a sexual predator is going to do whatever it takes to get to their victims, but dressing up like a woman just to get close to her is not likely. They'd be more likely to wait until they are alone in a non public place to strike. If I'm being totally honest, a sexual predator is even MORE likely to be related to or already in a woman's life personally as most rapes occur by someone the woman already knows. Banning transwomen from locker rooms is not likely to solve any issue other than discomfort for some.

Also, in most states, prisoners are placed in prisons based on their birth sex, unless they have had bottom surgery, in which then yes, they might be placed in a women's prison instead.

As for being offended by trans people, I'm just not. What exactly is the big deal? If anything, it's the opposition who demeans women and bases us down to our parts similar to what you just did. I have very good friends who are trans (both transmen and transwomen), and they don't see themselves as just a sum of their parts. Yes, they get surgeries to correct what's wrong with them, but it's more than that to them. It's not just getting a pair of tits just so they can spy on women.

[David94358]

Unfortunately there has been lots of sexual assaults from women in the locker room from "trans" women. And also lots of men with penises end up in the women's prison because they said they are trans.

The simple solution is trans women belong in a unisex bathroom. They are not real woman so do not belong in the women's room.

And I didn't say you should be offended by a trans person but offended by what woke culture has now said about women.. and how meaningless and superficial it now is.. that show offended you

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

I'm gonna need some proof there has been "lots of sexual assaults" in locker rooms by trans women for you to make that claim. There may be a handful at most, but I seriously doubt it's as widespread as you are implying.

Sure, but what if there isn't an option for a unisex room?

[David94358]

lots of examples of it happening but i did find this study pretty damming

fairplayforwomen.com/.../

Trans women have male type criminality pattern. Men are much more aggressive then women, and that does not change just because you identify as a woman

the other problem is looking at the data of criminals about 16% of the men in the studies are convicted sex offenders vs other crimes, compare that to trans women it is 50-60% of them are convicted sex offenders vs other crimes. So MUCH MUCH higher % of sex offenders vs the general population.

Just like with men, all men are not sex offenders and rapists just like all trans women are not as well.. its just a higher %

If there is no unisex bathroom then to bad, life is full of choices and if you choose to live your life and something you are not, then there is consequences of that decision. The bathrooms are segregated because of the biological differences, all the plastic surgery, makeup and dresses will never change your biology.

Now with that being said I wouldn't be opposed to a legal way for a man to gain access to women's only spaces if he gets bottom surgery. But if you have a dick.. you dont belong in the women's room.. simple

[DrPepper12]

This is why pale, male, stale people are so animated. For the first time they're being asked to SHARE instead of MONOPOLIZE power and to many of them that seems like an attack.

[Chazmatazz269]

That’s nonsense. No life is absent barriers. Just because someone struggles differently from you doesn’t mean they don’t struggle or even that they struggle less. Wokeness is in full denial of that simple fact because playing the victim card nets social credit.

[TommyMountainFigure]

I don't really understand the whole 'woke' thing. It really confuses me. So far, and I'm yet to see anything that contradicts this view, everyone claiming to be woke are on the side of gaza. yet Hamas a terrorist organisation was voted into power despite their charter calling for the 'death to all Jews. '
You see where I'm going with this? Woke according to you means bearing aware of racial injustice.. So how come nobody who is woke is aware of the Jews right for survival?

[exitseven]

It started when liberals used the term to imply that there viewpoint was somehow superior or enlightened or "woke" . They wanted the rest of us to know that they were the ones that knew best. Their condescending tone was insulting especially to the people that work in this country to keep the lights on, the busses rolling or the streets safe, what did they expect would happen?

[ApplePie409]

The left white, woke, liberals told a black woman she was no longer allowed to read Dr Seuss books to kids. She obeyed her white masters. Maybe you recognize her.

[HighValue]

Fighting against injustice?

Then why is sexism against men, hate against Christians, and discrimination and crime target against White people NEVER a concern of the woke liberals?

Because they actually agree with it and are the ones that cause and participate in it often.

[CriticalCatDad123]

Wokeness is cult like adherence to leftist social orthodoxy


What is leftist social orthodoxy?
- LGBT indoctrination in schools
- Feminism
- BLM, CRT, Pro-Palestine
- DEI
- etc


Why anyone would willingly fall in line with any of this ideological bullshit I honestly have no idea

[sheikalana]

Is not being woke that is wrong. The problem is that people who have very strong opinions on something usually try to force those opinions on you and are not willing to listen to those who have different opinions. It's okay to have different beliefs and disagree with some things as long as we respect other's opinions and give each other space to express themselves.

[ProbablyClueless]

It's well intentioned, but a lot of woke people started throwing around labels on people who weren't actually the thing they were accused of being. The general public has gotten quite tired of the antics.

If someone is very obviously not a racist, and a bunch of knuckleheads are running around screaming that they are a racist, the term "racist" loses meaning.