Americans, why do you think Greenland belongs to you?

[Anonymous]

Why do you believe you're entitled to it?

[combative]

Greenland has been an American protectorate since WWII. My Grandfather was in the Coast Guard and defended Greenland from the Nazis in the Atlantic. This is the problem, America has been footing the bill in both blood and treasure to defend Europe for far too long. Trump first tried to get NATO members to match American spending by percent of GDP on defense in a good faith effort to maintain the alliance. They ignored his calls for equal responsibility. Strike one. Then a war between Ukraine and Russia broke out in eastern Europe, and again Europe refused to match American spending in the alliance even when a war was on their backdoor step with a nuclear power. Clearly Europe does not care about the defense of their own territory as proven by their consistent behavior. Strike two. So, knowing this and being faced with irreconcilable differences between the United States and Europe, Trump offered to buy the territory of Greenland in a good faith effort to maintain relations with Europe and the security of North America and the general American sphere of influence. America is capable of defending Greenland and defense of Greenland is necessary for global security. Denmark refused to sell. Strike three.

Greenland is home to early detection systems to prevent nuclear strikes targeting the Americas. Thus to maintain a state of readiness it is necessary for America to continue to defend Greenland since Europe will not do their part. American nuclear readiness is the only way to prevent Nuclear Armageddon and thus protect life on Earth. If America’s nuclear warfare systems are strong, then other nations understand Mutually Assured Destruction is the outcome. Thus nobody uses nuclear weapons and we all get to continue to live our normal happy lives. If American nuclear defense are weakened, all the sudden nuclear war seems like a possible option. You start to get mad men in rogue states threatening to nuke other countries, you see Putin speak about being able to wipe out the Eastern Seaboard with a nuclear strike. For humanity’s sake, it can’t be a possible option.

Additionally America needs certain rare earths to maintain military readiness. Some of these are located in the USA, but there are other locations of interest like parts of Canada and Greenland that logistically make sense. Without access to these materials, American weapons systems can’t be manufactured and maintained properly. Thus America is going to acquire control of these resources one way or another. Clearly America has offered Greenland and certain Canadian provinces the opportunity to join the states of their own free will with promises of freedom, lower taxation, and economic investment in partnership to improve everyone’s standard of living and security. America wants to work with our neighbors if and when possible bringing everybody up, but in the event that WWIII were to break out, America would be forced to take those resources without recompense. Ideally a level of force can be maintained to deter WWIII and thus millions of people don’t have to die needlessly. However, there are people that want to weaken America so that China, Russia, and others can run a muck and start a global war generating hell on Earth. That is unacceptable.

[Shiprex]

That notion that MORE weapons makes things safer is rather ignorant. Just look at US civil life where you're 4 times more likely to be killed by a firearm than you are to be murdered in Europe or China. NO there is NO need for more destructive tools that's bollox.
Treaties between nations of like minded societies are there for a purpose. It's NOT MIGHT IS RIGHT that's a childish notion that doesn't take into account CULTURE and independent sovereignty. NATO has kept the peace in Europe and stopped the oligarchy and despotic authoritarian regimes in check from Moscow for 3/4 of a century. Sure US is the ONLY nation to use a WMD against civilians and that's how it should be and therefore the threat of use should be enough to keep the fukrs intent on "taking what they want from others because they can" off the table. GTF with that adolescent nonsense.

Greenland IS an ALLY of the US and since it's Danish it is perfectly reasonable to expect if the US wants to ALLY with it to be supportive of COLLECTIVE defence strategy then the US can have it's early warning detection (ffs submarines are just as likely to be the platforms used against US targets but 1950s ideology seems to have become hard wired in the US right wing mentality

FREEDOM? IN US? Freedom from rationality is the only thing US is promoting now. Vaccines, immigrants, FREEDOM from criticism of the Trump Regime, freedom from prosperity so the government can be gutted and commercial interests can redirect taxes TO THEMSELVES.

[combative]

@Shiprex Everyone on my street owns guns. For example my neighbor that lives across the street from me has 14 guns. My neighbors regularly shoot their guns on their own property several times a week and everyone can plainly hear there are guns everywhere around here. Saturday nights are very popular shooting times. In the past decade there has been one murder by a gun in my city and there are more guns here than people. That's right one gun murder in 10 years. I live in a metro of over a million people. I can leave my doors unlocked to my car and my home for days on end and nothing will go missing and nobody will come in and try to hurt me. As an example I have a neighbor that left on vacation for 2 weeks and she accidentally left her front door wide open when she drove to the airport. When she got back two weeks later, nothing was missing. It's very safe here. Everyone knows that everyone else has guns. In contrast when I go to the city where there are often more stringent gun regulations there is far more crime and murder by guns. In the city I personally have had guns pointed at me multiple times even though the concentration of guns is far lower per capita. Your position is not convincing at all, and the crime statistics actually oppose your position. Places with more guns have less crimes. Places with more gun restrictions have more crime. So in other words, you are a liar.

[Shiprex]

You are aware that the city "with more stringent regulations" doesn't do checks when you enter it to see if your gun loving community decides to stack their 12 rifles and shotguns into their vehicle to take to a hotel room so they can shoot up a concert their room overlooks and kill dozens of innocent people because they could.

Odd how ONLY in America one can say the freedom of movement of people WITH GUNS is used to say guns make you safer. Europe has fewer crimes than US and even fewer murders, gun crime, armed robbery, threatening with firearms and all other violent crime stats as does Australia where they had a single event and THE WHOLE COUNTRY stood up and said NOPE to civilians being "let off" for killing other civilians because they felt threatened.
Respect for life is a fundamental human right that gun lovers seem incapable of grasping an all those mythical anecdotes about leaving doors and windows open means nothing.

[combative]

@Shiprex You sound mentally retarded and can't even address the factual arguments that were placed before you. If you can't engage with the argument then get lost.

[Asker]

Greenland has nothing to do with the United States, it belongs to the people of Greenland. America doesn't need it as security. It never has been a problem until trump came in.

Plenty of Allied nations defended smaller countries during world wars and never felt like they owned the country after.

America has no right for it. They just want it for it's minerals. That's it.

[combative]

You're extremely ignorant of history. The only reason Greenland actually still exists as it is today, is directly thanks to the USA so yes it has a lot to do with the United States. When the Nazis took over Denmark in WWII Greenland was abandoned. Nazis tried to occupied it and even successfully set up some covert weather stations, England and other allies wanted to annex it at the time and make it part of their own country's territory because it was up for dibs at the time, but the United States defended Greenland allowing it to continue to exist. That's why Greenland has defense agreements with the USA today and why we had military bases on Greenland all through the Cold War and still maintain a Space Force base at Thule today. Since WWII America has been an integral part of the continued existence of Greenland, and the United States could have just as easily annexed the island in WWII, but we were nicer than all the other nations that tried to take Greenland including our allies. Greenland was an important staging location during WWII and an important defense location as we entered the nuclear age.

[combative]

America brought us into the nuclear age and we can't put the nuclear genie back in the bottle... We still live in that nuclear age, and Greenland plays an important role in the defense of the entire world.

[combative]

If you look up a map of the Earth centered on the north pole, you will understand the significance of Greenland in detecting and intercepting intercontinental ballistic missiles. The shortest path to the Americas, Europe, or Asia is up and over the top...

[combative]

If a nuclear war were to take place, Greenland is where it would occur. So monitoring that area and maintaining a defensive stance is necessary for the continued existence of all life on Earth.

[combative]

Thank the Germans Socialists, they made it a necessity when they leaked American nuclear secrets to the Soviets thus creating this entire arms race. The danger we all live in today is because of Socialism. The Nazi Bavarian Socialist retards thought, nuclear power should belong to the entire world and everyone should have the bomb. That's were socialism gets you, to the brink of total annihilation.

[combative]

Klaus Fuchs the stupid fuching asshole started this entire thing in motion...

[Asker]

That's not true and not what would have happened. England wouldn't have Made it theor territory for look , look at all the other countries they have Colonized? They have all been handed back and Greenland would have been the same.

America weren't saving it as a favor for the native Greenland people, they had other motives. The people who live in Greenland today don't owe America anything.

[combative]

What I told you is well known WWII history. You just claiming it's not true, doesn't make it not true. I told you the chain of events that got us to were we are today. Greenland only exists today because the United States asserted military dominance to defend it. Greenland definitely does owe America and of course America defended Greenland because it had geographic significance that would influence the outcome of WWII and we continued to defend it because it has geographic significance in nuclear defense. None the less, Greenland could have just as easily been part of the UK, Canada, or the USA today if the United States didn't say otherwise. America was the decider of Greenland fate in WWII.

[Asker]

I think you're missing the main point. Regardless of whether America 'saved Greenland ' or any other country , that doesn't mean you own them.

[combative]

Of course they do or there would not be treaties. You know what treaties are? Contracts. Agreements were made. American can have military bases on the island for our protection and for global protection and even some Danish politicians realize this and are open to America expanding our number of bases in Greenland. They are trying to negotiate because they know they have violated some of the agreements they made with America.

http s://x. com/larsloekke/status/1905764027210547565

[combative]

They owe us a lot and they might join us soon enough... Wait and see what happens. A lot is happening in the background.

[Asker]

When did I say anything about agreements and military arrangements? That is different to buying or over taking a country.

And America won't take over unless the people and denmark Agree. Which won't happen

[combative]

I know you don't care about the law, but you said we don't own them... If you actually read the agreement, you'd know the United States can take parts of Greenland for defensive purposes without compensation to Denmark, build structures, harbors, channels, airstrips, coms towers, weather towers, etc. We can house personnel, bring and take materials and tools without regulations, we have jurisdiction over the locations that we take, so on and so forth. So yes to some extent we own Greenland and have free rein to take locations without compensation and to build things on them.

[Asker]

Qoute me the parts where it says America owns it? And even if what you're saying is true, you just have control over small parts , not the country , and certainly not the natural resources

[Asker]

I just looked it up. It's Thule, Sondrestrom and Narsarsuaq.
Those are three tiny towns. Certainly no where close to ' owning ' the country

[combative]

Apparently you didn't look very hard...

[combative]

You're really not getting it... The NATO alliance widened its focus from traditional defense and deterrence to hybrid threats such as supply chain disruptions, energy security, and economic coercion. You know like Chinese economic coercion of NATO members on rare earths... Greenland falls under NATO. Critical Raw Materials (CRM) that NATO members need to sustain their militaries, defense industries, and wider economies in peacetime and crisis are included in NATO strategy. So yes, America does certainly have control over natural resources. Being that America is the largest military in NATO, and the largest industrial base and supplier of NATO weapons, those resources are essential for our common defense.

[Shiprex]

The argument that one village has guns and no one has crime but then you complain that in the other village where there is crime that YOU CAN FUCKING WALK INTO hiding your criminal tools is insane
It's illogical and irrational that you fail to see how dumb that is.
Go to Canada for example LOTS of guns there and wtf more restrictions FEWER CRIMES and even fewer gun deaths.
That US has allowed firearms to get into the hands of any motherfukr with a few $ and promoted their free movement even more than that of people is what is retarded.

Australia lots of guns lots of restrictions, gun crime LOW
Canada SAME
Europe few guns, hardly any fucking gun crime
America no clue about who or what guns are around because no one has kept records because "fear of the state" (each other more like)

[NoDecision]

We don't think that, Trump does. He wants to get as much of a National Debt as he can by developing Greenland and rebuilding Gaza, while not doing anything in the rest of the US. So we'll keep having collapsing bridges, huge wildfires, and lots of homelessness and people who can't afford to pay their rent. Isn't that lovely? 😟

[Anonymous]

Only Trump says that. Now by extension, his cult followers think it because they think whatever he tells them to think. Obviously there's no threat to it or to America because of it. Trump just wants to mine the hell out of it and is lying about security as a justification.

[Lliam]

Some of my ancestors lived there a long, long time ago. According to them, God said they were his chosen people and that the land belonged to them.

Vikings arrived around 2000 years ago and my ancestors left because they hated foreigners and were unable to drive them out or kill them. When they tried, the Vikings kicked their asses.

My ancestors have portrayed themselves as victims of oppression ever since.

But now I want Greenland back because, according to God, it belongs to my people. If its inhabitants don't leave, I'll level all their towns and villages and slaughter every remaining man, woman and child.

[Asker]

This is a joke right

[Lliam]

Ask a Zionist.

[Caroline91]

I don't want Greenland or Canada or Mexico or the Panama Canal. They don't belong to the US and I think that's just Donald Trump's power trip. I mean... now THAT'S some real estate. Maybe he just wants to stamp his brand on big enough to see from Musk's next rocket, if he can stop blowing them up on launch.

[Sevenpointfive]

it shouldn't really belong to anyone. i like the idea of absorbing the island, but i don't want to do it if the Danes are against it. i also read around his (Trumps) first term that he wanted to frack baby frack the hell out of it. that is not something that i want. Please vote against it Greenlanders

[OfDeath]

By that logic USA shouldn’t really belong to anyone.

[Sevenpointfive]

@OfDeath it didn't until it was settled by a group of people. and conquered people took over areas and the victors are now the owners.

[Asker]

The people of Greenland don't want to be part of the United States

[Sevenpointfive]

do you think they'd be okay with living on a reservation? i'm sure they don't travel much there.

[OfDeath]

Fair enough if that’s the world you want. Bear in mind the Chinese might just decide one day to invade the United States with an army of 1/3 the entire population of USA alone and that doesn’t include the Air Force or the Navy.

Would you be ok with that?

[Sevenpointfive]

@OfDeath i fight fair. i want a duel of champions and i choose that one idiot that fought mike tyson lololomg

can you imagine

[MemeSupreme]

guarantee you a good chunk of americans couldn't locate it on a map lol

we don't

[NaultD]

My personal wakadoo tin foil hat conspiracy is don is going to basically trade alaska back to Russia as they dismantle nato and chop up EU.

With Greenland as a stop gap for USA with Europe being the new ussr in the same way alaska is to Russia today. It's pretty spooky for me living in alaska.

This kinda talk is very similar to world wars dealing with the middle east.

[Agape93]

We don't. Only the orange sack of pube coated lard and his knuckle dragging supporters do.

[Asker]

Why does America like clown so much

[Agape93]

Fuck if I know. Brain damage?

[QuestionObsession]

I am not American but I would LOVE to see Greenland ripped out of the EU.

EU is a bunch of racist colonial bitches clinging together who have fucked the rest of the world. Now it is time for EU to take it up its rear for a change.

And my boy Anal Trump/ Tariff Trump has my unwavering support.

Like Michael Corleone/ Al Pacino had said - "It is nothing personal, it is strictly business".

[Asker]

This is a joke?

[QuestionObsession]

Oh no. Dead serious. It is serious business

[JesseP1nk]

That is quite bad. He was the one who says Zelenskyy tries to start ww3 by defending his country and at the same time he is talking about taking over Greenland, Canada and Panama Canal. Can he lecture Putin invading to Ukraine or China when they invade to Taiwan?

[purplepoppy]

Because America is now the biggest threat the world is facing. Look at Vances latest threat to Greenland,

[SmokinAces2000]

Only the entitled cult members believe that Greenland belongs to America.

[DrPepper12]

Presumptive sociopathic narcissistic egotistical arrogance?

[blackeagle007]

He wants to rule the world. Makes think of that tears for fears song

[Avicenna]

Why do leftists think such crazy shit? And why is Denmark still claiming Greenland instead of letting the Greenlanders decide for themselves what to do?

[Twalli]

They have, repeatedly. They are wearing MAGA hats that read "Make America Go Away".

[Avicenna]

@Twalli: You didn’t address the question or what I said. But somehow I doubt the Greenlanders woiukd prefer Russian or Chinese domination to having a free association agreement with the US.

But I’m sure even contemplating that reality hurts your brain too much

[Twalli]

Greenland is part of Demark. We don't let Puero Rico or any other non state territories decide what they want to do. Greenland is the same. They're owned by Denmark. From what I can sell, the US is the only country interested in acquiring Denmark. As well as Canada, Gaza, and the Panama Canal. So really it's a question of Denmark deciding. Yet, Greenland has also decided that they want to stay part of Denmark, so I don't think Demark sees any vale in giving it to the US, when it violates the wishes of those in Greenland and those in Denmark.

[fish5505_87]

"We don't" He wants access to rare earth materials and the vast amount of natural resources. Using strategic, importance as the guise.

[WindAtMyBack]

Americans don't think that. Not even Trump thinks that. He wants it, but that is far different than thinking it belongs to the US.

[OddBeMe]

Because Trump said so! And we can’t think for ourselves!

[Anonymous]

It's up to the greenlanders. If they revolt against their tyrannical overlords and want to do join the us i support that.

[Asker]

They don't want to

[Opinion Owner]

So we are told...

[Douglas1180]

Because the Danish prime minister is a nasty, short-haired witch and she doesn't deserve it.

[exitseven]

W do not think that Greenland belongs to us. Not yet anyway.

[Snakeyes7]

Apparently, it gives the US a geological advantage over Russia. I don't remember exactly why but it's not just because Trump is bored.

[DCVsMarvel]

I don't. The u. s. doesn't even belong to us. It's stolen land. Republicans seem to think it's ok though

[Jackblue]

No, I have no idea why Trump wants to take it from Denmark.

[blackeagle007]

It doesn’t. Never will be. Its orange blob making insane suggestions

[TwoToTooTutu2]

Should be independent. Pan American independence and unity forever

[Knightwatch27]

No one is saying that. But I get you wanna twist it to fit your narrative.

[beefcakebradybatson]

They're fugly and greedy ala their Peerless Leader !!!

[Anonymous]

We don’t think that. Only leftist idiots assert such nonsense

[FunkyMonkee]

When did we ever say that?

[msc545]

Only one American thinks this.

[Fireguy17]

I'm good, we already have enough frozen tundra.

[jahaims]

You believe everything you hear, eh?

[Anonymous]

It belongs to Eskimos.

[Grond21]

We don't

[BarryLiverstone]

We don’t

[Asker]

Then why is Trump saying he will get Greenland

[BarryLiverstone]

Because it’s strategic for defense. USA already has a military presence on Greenland.

[BarryLiverstone]

Does that make sense?

[Asker]

You just you guys don't want it, now you're saying you do

[BarryLiverstone]

Pay less attention to what Trump (a politician) says and more about actions.

[Asker]

You support that clown?

[BarryLiverstone]

The potus must be prayed for as he’s in a very important position. If I actively cheered against him that’s like saying I want the USA to fail.

Trump is a liar and very sinful. But he’s the president and must succeed.

Are you against the USA?

[Asker]

You're corrupted

[BarryLiverstone]

I’ll ask again. It’s very simple as a question.

Are you against the USA?

[Asker]

Stop trolling dude

[BarryLiverstone]

I’m being honest and using my gag account so you can keep me accountable. You are anon so who is the troll?

[seeyounexttuesday]

Because we want it.

[Anonymous]

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