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s 1 moI know there might be some people who do live at much better places on this earth, and might not see the death penalty as necessary or deserved, or any other objection they might have...
but at least here in Texas... it's common for some of these prisoners who are/have been in death row/mutiple life times, 30+ year sentences, who have escaped, went out on parole... or released as "reformed and no longer a threat to society"
and the very first thing they did (or second thing) was to look for the family of those they wronged and kill them to... or just go on random kill sprees, and repeat the same or worse offense
and that's the one reason why, Texas continues the death penalty...
also... death penalty and multiple lifetimes are often given to a prisoner, not because they did commit a gruesome crime, but multiple ones, and many of them... from inside the prison because they either murdered even more and viciously too inside the prison, but also targeted people outside... from prison
and so, they are just deemed not compatible with society... and to that point, even21 Reply- 1 mo
I was aware that asking this question was unchartered territory for me. And different perspectives are what matter to me when I ask questions so it's interesting to hear from those with direct experience like yourself. (=
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1 moTell me the death penalty is not a deterrent to other violent offenders in the future. OK, I acknowledge that. It's not a great deterrent for people who are seriously mentally ill.
Tell me it's not what a civilized society should do. OK, now I have a problem. Let's say you have a serial killer like Ted Bundy, John Wayne Gacy, Jeffrey Dahmer, or Gary Ridgway. Multiple murders in some cases spanning decades. These are psychopaths. They can never be reformed. They can never be released back into society. Why pay to house and feed and clothe them? Provide healthcare to them? Educate them? For decades. Remove the threat and reduce the burden on taxpayers. Some people are not worthy of public support. They have demonstrated that they can never function in a free society.
If we shouldn't send those assholes to Hell, then we shouldn't target despots, cartel kingpins, fascist heads of state, military juntas, religious theocracies, inbred monarchies, people indoctrinating child soldiers, human sex traffickers, tribal genocide, organized crime, the people behind blood diamonds, the motherfuckers in the Epstein files, or the capitalists trying to rule the planet.
Warning: There may be a lot of overlap in many of these categories of people qualifying for the death penalty.
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Noted! Lol!
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If you're interested in "reducing the burden on taxpayers", then send them to prison for life. It's significantly cheaper if you factor in all of the costs of death row housing, court costs during appeals, etc.
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1 moThis topic is widely debated, and there are strong arguments on both sides.
People who support removing the death penalty argue that it is irreversible, and no justice system is perfect. If an innocent person is executed, the mistake cannot be corrected. They also point out that its application is not always equal, as factors like legal resources or bias can influence outcomes. In addition, life imprisonment is seen as a way to protect society without taking a life.
Those who support keeping it believe it can serve as punishment for the most serious crimes, provide a sense of justice, and offer closure for victims’ families.
Because of these concerns, especially the risk of wrongful conviction, some countries have abolished it or restricted its use, while others continue to apply it under strict laws.
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u 1 moNo. There are people that will repeatedly commit the same crimes when released from prison. They never learn their lesson and they’re given a chance to make new victims.
I do believe that the punishment should match the crime. Crimes like petty theft, drug possession, fraud etc.. they don’t deserve the death penalty.
But murderers, rapists and sex offenders - yes.30 Reply
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920 opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. I say being back “death by combat”
If someone is sentenced to life but the victim insists on the death penalty they can fight it out in a sand pit with swords and shields.
But even if the convicted wins he still goes to prison, so that we don’t give a free pass to stronger criminals
And maybe allow the victim to name a champion to find in their stead as well.
That way you can have an agency that contracts out executions by combat by selling the services of an avid swordsman.
I know I’m going too far in my imagination on this one 😅21 Reply- 1 mo
Well Good morning... your imagination is running wild
... but better that than to be all so serious...😅
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1 moNo, it should not be abolished. iN FACT, we should be putting all murderers and rapists to death. I HAVE NEVER seen any evidence whatsoever that any murderer or rapist ever truthfully repents of their crimes. a
on the other hand, falsely convicted people should have A RIGHT to sue AND prosecute everyone involved in their false conviction, STARTING WITH THE DA AND THE JUDGE and jury.
If you falsely charge and convict anyone of a capital crime, you should go to prison for the rest of your life. That sHould be a LAW. In the Bible, there is actually a law called the "four-fold penalty" for false accusation of any crime. If you falsely accuse someone of a crime and get caught falsely accusing, you owe the defendant 4 times what you thought ot punish them with. If you falsely accused someone of a capital crime, you were put to death.
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1 moI don’t think it deters the crime unfortunately. I looked up the statistics on this to double check and it doesn’t seem to prevent anything more than the states that don’t have the death penalty. The bigger thing for the people that advocate for it is they think that some of these folks just deserve it. I am torn on this because, I don’t want to have a death penalty, but if someone killed a family member of mine in cold blood, I could understand why someone would want them to suffer the same fate. Deep down i think it is barbaric and punishing them to a cell for the rest of their life is worse. Who cares how much it costs taxpayers. That’s true suffering to lose all freedom in a non resort style prison.
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I care when I am the taxpayer paying for three hots and a cot, free medical, food, clothing, keeping them warm in winter and cool in the summer, for what some unrepentant scumbag child molester and all the rest of those convicted of a capital crime. If you really want, how about you get all your friends and relatives and people you talk to, send all of your money to the government to pay for the convicted that you love so much with your money and other people's money that feel the same way you do, and not saddle us with keeping killers alive
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@DARKCLOUD1945X Thanks for your outrage.
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1 moIf someone raped, tortured, and killed your loved one or any innocent person for that matter, do you think jail and potential rehabilitation is fine? Is it fair that your loved one or innocent person was assaulted and traumatically affected or dead while that evil is allowed to live?
If anything, I'm annoyed that there aren't more death penalties, like in the cases of Iryna Zarurska or Bethany McGee.40 Reply 1.9K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. in my opinion, it should only be available when there is certainty that they have the right person. DNA evidence, video evidence, being caught in the act, or a confession. But if someone has committed crimes so serious that they qualify for the death penalty, it should be used.
30 Reply6K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. I'm for it as long as the crime was egregious and there is not a shred of doubt about guilt. And in cases like that, I don't think the death should be by lethal injection. That's too expensive and humane. Just hang them. Hell, there are genocidal monsters like certain Israelis, who should be impaled or drawn and quartered.
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And do not forget the guilty Arabs, too. What is good for the goose is good for the gander, and should be good enough for everyone guilty. Jew and Arab
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@DARKCLOUD1945X. I can't think of an Arab leader who celebrates sadism, genocide and complete destruction for the sake of theft. Israelis are unique in that regard.
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No, the Arabs are barbarians when they attacked the Jews, the October massacre, and your can do no wrong, Arabs split a baby in half on TV, and dance while killing prisoners on live TV. You know now what they did do, the no wrong Arabs
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@DARKCLOUD1945X. Split a baby in half on TV? Dance while killing prisoners? Who are you talking about al Qaida? They don't represent Islam or Arabs. In fact, they are led by Mossad and are protected by Israel.
The IDF were the barbarians for firing on their own people on Oct 7 and causing the vast majority of civilian casualties.
You apparently know nothing about the crimes Israelis Israelis commit every day and have been committing for 78 years. Fucking Nazis were civilized compared to Israelis.
Stay off my comment, Zionist.
5.8K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. "Those who hunt monsters see to it you yourself don't become a monster. For when you gaze into the abyss the abyss gazes back."
It's imperative to protect justice and everyday people from this abyss. A degree of separation from individuals bias while keeping it close to a jury of peers is important.
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1 moI'm against it. First I find it very difficult to judge what crime is worth a death penalty and which one isn't.
Second, mistakes happen. Once you kill someone, you can't undo it if it turns out that they got the wrong person.
And lastly, rotting for the rest of your life in jail is worse than death in my opinion.
20 Reply Anyone convicted and sentenced to a duration that would exceed their expected life span should just be sent immediately to death row and be executed in an expedient manner. Anyone not on death row should be put into indentured servitude for the duration of their sentence. Go from cage to work and nothing else.
I don't believe all life is precious.
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m 1 moIt's already abolished here.
And I fully agree with the spirit of abolition, I think it should be no one's job to kill someone sentenced, for any reason at all. And I also think it's taxpayers' role to pay for life imprisonment of those Justice sentenced to long term jail time. Just like it is their role to support national infrastructures such as education, healthcare, unemployment income, retirement income and all the things brought by social market.
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Why should I or any other person be forced to keep a scumbag killer molester, or any person convicted of a capital crime, be kept alive for years and even decades on the public dime
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You don't have to, since your profile says you're in the USA.
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You’re being deliberately obtuse. You literally wrote that you believe it’s taxpayers’ responsibility to foster the life and livelihood of the scum of society. When challenged, you reply “you don’t have to”. Don’t be a jack*ss. Support your position with facts and reasoning.
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@chazmatazz269I
I killed the suspense already, because I already stated the reasoning you're looking for. It's embedded in the notion of social market: tax paid infrastructure.
But here's more reasoning: When people collectively agreed to abolish death penalty then they have to backup this philosophy they believe in with cash, not just ideals because it's an expensive philosophy.
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1 moNo, I think they should bring it back!! Who the fuck wants someone like that living near them after they get out? Other than for psychological study, why are we keeping people like that alive for 50, 60, 70 years? They killed someone so we pay for their room and board for the rest of their life?
10 Reply this is very tough call. On the one hand, the state can make mistakes and appeals for death penalty cases can cost millions.
on the other, there are people who commit crimes so heinous - like Joshua Gilliam & Ronald Lynch or serial killers, or Magan Richmond, Tasha Stringer, and Kathryn McMullen who don't deserve to breathe any more.30 Reply- 5.5K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic.
1 mopoersonally i strongly prefer a moral of principle. if killing another human wrong, then it is wrong in every circumstance. like in my mind, justice doesn't work by doing something bad to a bad person. cause that way you make yourself guilty of the same thing you're trying to punish the person for.
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1 moWith them gone, we do not have to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to keep them alive, give them medical care, clothes, and house them at all. If you want, you can contribute to your murderer's, rapist, child molesters' comfort by contributing to their commissary bank. Just look at sanctuary cities and states, the bad people are out of jail before the cops finish their paperwork, sans NYC, and the state
20 Reply 8.2K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. I uses to be against it and am still cautiously for it, but now I think it should be for murderers and there is undeniable proof. The murderer of Iryna Zarutska should have gotten it but he's not only out on the streets again after clearly demonstrating that he is a psycho, the mayor of Charlotte is trying his best to memoryhole the murder by getting rid of that massive mural of Zarutska.
20 Reply4K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. I think it depends on whether or not you view death as a significant deterrent. The whole idea of prisons and such is to serve as a way to deter people and contain them if it doesn't deter them. Is execution enough to deter people from committing crimes that warrant the death penalty?
20 Reply5.3K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Yes, it should. Yes, it does make a difference. It costs a lot more to process all the appeals than it does to simply feed and house the convict in prison (and there's that whole "oh, new evidence shows he was innocent" thing).
20 ReplyNo, it should be for terrible crimes, like murder, stealing from people, false accusations, frauds regarding taxpayers money etc. Of course they need to be proven by huge amount of evidence
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1 moI'm against the death penalty but after reading, seeing and hearing what's happening in this world, i believe that the death penalty needs to exists sometimes...
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1 moIt could be a deterrent to murder, but only if it is carried out in a short amount of time, not after 20 years. Ask any mother who has had their child murdered.
10 Reply I am truly divided about this.. on one hand, it’s like an easy way out for them they don’t really get to suffer.. on the other, it’s like why do they deserve to live if their crime was so cruel and take up space in this world. Economically, they should not be living rent free, especially those who have repeatedly committed crimes.
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1 moIf you were wrongly accused of a crime and facing the death penalty, would you be confident that the current justice system would get it right and you’d be found not guilty?
I do not have such confidence
10 Reply12.1K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Some crimes are so heinous that the perps deserve to have their lives taken away.
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1 moNo, keep it. Just do not use it for circumstantial cases. Only for cases where they were caught red handed and guilt is not in question.
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Anonymous(45 Plus)1 moDoes it make a difference to strangers? Does it make a difference to the family of the victim? Does it make a difference in deterrent effect? Does it make a difference in the cost of caring for that prisoner for the rest of their lives?
20 Reply730 opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. It costs the tax payers a ton, but what doesn't nowadays. That being said, there are certain people that should not be roaming this earth.
20 Reply1.1K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Yes of course it should , in any civilized society , we moved on from State sanctioned killings years ago.
20 Reply4.2K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. In my opinion pedophiles & child rapist should be put down. Then again am a little bias on this subject of child rapist & pedophiles. Just to answer the question I am not against the death penalty for certain crimes.
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1 moThere are some egregious crimes people where people who commit them don't deserve to live anymore
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1 moI think the death penalty should be abolished period. I hate the idea of the state having the legal authority to kill people
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I hate people killing innocents, and NO CASH BAIL lets them out to kill, rape, and assault again. Why, if convicted of murder, are they being kept alive at the cost of maybe a million dollars for every death row inmate, who offers nothing of value to society except death and chaos?
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Do you know how many millions it costs for the state to kill them? On taxpayer dollars? It’s way more expensive than releasing them. If economics is going to be your argument, make sure you know what you’re talking about.
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A hellava lot less than keeping them alive. Please make sure you know what you're talking about. Keeping a piece of shit murderer, etc., etc., etc alive for twenty plus years behind bars again on the taxpayers' dime for what? Please explain the value. I assume letting him out of jail for committing murder is what you mean when you say it is less expensive to release them on the unsuspecting public to murder or whatever again
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It’s because there’s no limit to how many times a person convicted of a death sentence can appeal that sentence before its due date
I think it should b used only in these three cases:
1. The person admits 2 the crime.
2. There's proof which is needed in America.
3. The person wants it.
That wy. if there's a mistake n the person's executed it's not the law's fault.10 Reply- 4.6K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic.
1 mofrance already tried that. murder RATE increased so need more death penalty.
20 Reply 26.9K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. No, if anything it should be expanded to include child rapists and drug dealers whose customers ha e died
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u 1 moNo. It should remain in force for murderers.
20 Reply 1.6K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. IMHO, a person shouldn't be on death row for more than two years before the execution is carried out. Gives time for any appeals and such. By the end of the following week would even be better.
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Yeah, they play the system, it is appeals after appeal after appeal for years. You got it right two years then plug them in
2.3K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. If there's no question of their guilt, there's no need to keep terrible people alive. Why keep them alive? So they can do more bad things to people? Fry them
20 Reply6.5K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Yes, I do, as it has been in all countries of the European Union.
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1 moNo I do not as there are some who really deserve it and should be excuted.
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Anonymous(25-29)1 moAbsolutely not, I'd double down, more please
I want courtrooms where the box floor can open on a button controlled by the judge and send the criminal scum down a shaft headfirst into a concrete floor20 Reply- 3K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic.
1 moI support capital punishment for certain limited circumstances. It should be rare, but available.
10 Reply 719 opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. In modern societies where mandatory appeals can take years and cost a fortune, it doesn't matter.
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1 moIt should be do more for pedo, rapist, corruptors. etc
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Anonymous(25-29)1 moYes, because I believe life in prison without parole is worse. The death penalty is also more expensive in the USA than just incarcerated somebody.
10 Reply3.1K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. No. We need to introduce death sentences again for violent crimes.
10 Reply1.4K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Absolutely not. Not only should every state have it, but it should be used more often.
10 Reply1.3K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Yes. It's perhaps worth offering it for murderers but it woul solve no problems.
20 Reply380 opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Absolutely Not! There are humans who don't deserve to be on earth.
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1 moYes 100%. im more in favor of stronger lengthier sentences.
20 Reply 638 opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. I must say no. Not for vengeance but as a deterrent.
20 ReplyI’m totally 💯 against the death penalty, nobody should be allowed to take a person’s life away. Only GOD has the authority to take away their life.
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1 moYes. The state isn’t good at getting things right
30 Reply 11.6K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Yes it is barbaric and it has no deterrent value and for those reasons alone should be abolished.
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1 moI think the death penalty should be expanded to anyone that breaks a law.
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1 moI think we should bring it back in the uk.
20 Reply11.8K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Nope
10 Reply4.2K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Nope
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Anonymous(45 Plus)1 moNope.
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