Personally, I do not. And I find it annoying how so many girls complain about this stuff. It's like, shut up and be grateful you can even get an education. This is one of the main reasons I don't agree with modern feminism, making victims out of nothing. I get that girls are being sent home more, but that's because they are breaking dress code more! Why in the hell would they send guys home if they're not breaking dress code? Why would they tell guys to not wear crop tops and booty shorts when they already don't do that? Use common sense feminists.
And yes, I also think it's inappropriate for boys to go to school sagging pants and wearing wifebeater shirts, and yes they should be sent home and yes my school did send boys like that home. What kind of irresponsible parents send their kids to school like this?
I get so tired of these stupid hashtags and stories about girls complaining that supposedly their time is being taken, and that their education is important. I get that. But then shut up and put on a full shirt and shorts that cover your asscheeks. It's not that complicated. You are in school to learn, not be fashionable, not be trendy, to LEARN.
I have spoken to many people in HR, and the horror stories they've told me about teens and young adults dressing like scandalous morons. Girls wearing low cut tank tops and miniskirts, guys sagging their pants, showing off their boxers, and other completely inappropriate clothes. And of course they did not get hired. And I just shake my head and cringe when I see these stupid #I'mNotADistraction hashtags. Your ass is soon gonna be #IAmUnemployedBecauseIWoreACropTopToAnInterview.
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"It's like, shut up and be grateful you can even get an education."
So what, we stop complaining about other problems just because we've reached a solution to only one problem? So we trivialise issues that women face just because we have at least one good thing? So then it's okay to tell black people "Just shut up about police brutality, be grateful you're not working at cotton farms anymore." I mean, you're logic is astounding, really.
"Girls wearing low cut tank tops and miniskirts"
So? Whats wrong with that? Why should the employer not take her seriously? She's not flashing her tits and ass, why would you have a problem with that? I mean, if the job description was for something where you can expect a formal suit, then fine, I get it dress codes are relevant, but that's not the case in schools. Why do you advocate society using a woman's outer appearance as a measurement of her worth?
Just because a girl wears a miniskirt or a tank top doesn't mean she's incompetent at the job, to base off employment over such superficial, misogynistic preconceptions is fucking stupid.
Women may arouse sexual attention from what they are wearing, there's nothing wrong with being seen as sexually attractive, there's just something wrong with being disrespected/not hired because someone finds you sexually attractive. Who the fuck are you to tell us how to dress? So what if we're showing skin, is that hurting you? Is that affecting our education? Our ability to do the job? No? Then fuck off.
You're subjective views of modesty aren't something females are gonna accommodate, get over yourself and stop trying to be a female white knight. It's obvious you're just trying to get male attention at the expense of the female population.
"But then shut up and put on a full shirt and shorts that cover your asscheeks. It's not that complicated. You are in school to learn, not be fashionable, not be trendy, to LEARN."
There's a difference between public indecency and personal hatred against certain ways people dress. Revealing asscheeks are obviously in breach of public decency, so yes, in this case I agree with you, there needs to be measures taken to reduce that. But can you stop bitching about girls wanting to be fashionable at school?
It's called individuality, yes school is for learning, but that doesn't mean you can't express your individuality while you're there, stop being the fashion police by telling us how to dress, maybe focus more on the education you lack.
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Oh hell no, you did not just compare actual instances of racism to phony ass "sexism". Another reason, why I don't like feminism, making victims out of nothing.
There are girls who literally are told they cannot go to school because they are girls THAT IS WHAT SEXISM LOOKS LIKE. MY MOTHER WAS ONE OF THOSE GIRLS, SHE NEVER WENT TO SCHOOL, SHE IS COMPLETELY SELF TAUGHT READ AND WRITE. And you're complaining because you can't show cleavage at school? Get real. THis is why men don't take us seriously, this is why they don't think sexism exists, because stupid girls crying "sexism" when something doesn't go their way.
You cherry picked and only focused on the woman, the men who sagged their pants and wore shirts that said "#SWAG" also did not get hired. It doesn't matter how competent you are, if you're not dressed for the job, you will not get hired. Plain and simple. If you are late, you will get fired, plain and simple.
Good luck finding jobs with this whole "I'm a special snowflake, I will wear crop tops and booty shorts to interviews. FUCK YOU!" attitude lol
Can you stop bitching about dress code then? SCHOOL IS FOR EDUCATION, NOT TO BE FASHIONABLE AND TRENDY.
My god, I cannot believe how selfish, entitled, spoiled and stupid girls have become. It's a shame to my gender.
And I wish that it was a simple as me not wearing a crop top that cops would treat me as an equal. I wish that's all it took for them to not threaten to deport me, tell me to "speak English correctly". Fuck off trying to compare racism to this fake ass, non existent sexism. Wanting children to dress like children is not sexism, it's called common decency.
There is an essence of sexism in it, but the dresscode itself isn't completely illogical to have in place either.
In my school boys got away with saggy pants, and in another school I attended 3 hours away some time later, it was the same deal. I couldn't even wear a tank top, regardless of the strap thickness, without being chased after and blatantly harassed about it. I didn't have my cleavage out, but you could see my figure, which was apparently a problem.
As a matter of fact, one of the teachers in my school actually got in trouble for making a remark to me, stating I "looked like I was going to a beach" because I wore jeans and a tank top, just as a guy with his boxers out walked by. That was only after I went to the office and broke down over it.
The dress code's problem isn't that it prevents you from wearing crops and booty shorts; a lot schools, mine included, ir wouldn't allow you to show your shoulders, or wear shorts that weren't an uncomfortable length, and essentially shamed young girls for having, you know, female bodies.
Having a dress code is fine, but I think it needs to be sincerely reevaluated and tweaked, at the very least.
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My school also did not allow shoulders, collarbones, short skirts and shorts etc. It gets pretty hot in Chicago, I never really had a problem with not being able to adhere to dress code. Other stupid girls and guys did, so they ended up implementing uniform. I prefer uniform so the damn kids could just shut up about dress code.
In your case, the problem was the staff being sexist, I wouldn't say the dress code was.
I get it if the school wants to send someone home for wearing booty shorts and a crop top that shows underboobs or something. But @heavenonearth has a point, sometimes it's just ridiculous. That girl in the pic she linked to is wearing a regular top and a cardigan. No cleavage is showing. She's wearing jeans, so no legs are showing either. Even her shoulders are completely covered ffs. Apparently students there are only allowed to wear a turtleneck. It is sexist because it forces women to cover up more than they should, and it assumes that men are horndogs who can't concentrate at the sight of *GASP* collarbones!!! How shameful!!! Men are perfectly capable of controlling their own concentration, they're not dogs who get easily distracted by toys and treats, and women are allowed to show their goddamn collarbones. Like I said, I get it if your shorts/skirts are too short and if your boobs are falling out of your top, but nothing about that girl's outfit was ~*~sexual~*~ and I know plenty of other cases where the girls in some schools have been unfairly sent home for wearing perfectly normal clothing that isn't in the least provocative.
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I'd disagree.
And I don't think it's fair to compare teens to adults. Because they aren't adults. It's similar to this shit where guys think teen girls who fool them into relationships (getting "tricked" into a relationship by a 14yr old? How stupid can you be? Lol) should face legal consequences as well as them for dating a minor. Very silly, teens are not adults, and I'm glad we don't hold them to the same standards.
Collarbones, mainly because those shirts leads to excessive cleavage *usually*.
I'll put it this way, in my heavily gang infested school, we could not wear certain colors with black, for obvious safety concerns (to not be mistaken for gang members). Did this mean everyone who wanted to wear certain colors were in a gang? No, but these rules were there for our protection.
Also, I pointed it out that if men were to try to wear this crap too, they'd be getting sent home as well. In my school they did that and even sent home the basketball players w/ sleevless jerseys
Agreed. I didn't think there was sexism, but I'm starting to suspect some of these accusations about a sexist dress code are more about these silly restrictions, than legitimately revealing clothes. Some people can't seem to distinguish between the two and it leads to issues.
Still inappropriate. They are there for a reason. I can't wear half of the outfits, and I'm a freaking bartender. As I said, every time a stupid kid cries about dress code, just implement uniform because obviously they can't handle it without being entitled brats.
Just so you don't think all schools in the US are that strict lol - the high school I went to was nowhere near as strict and inflexible as the school in this example. I'm pretty sure this one in Kentucky (well the state itself should be a head's up) is an outlier.
@heavenonearth mine was. But as I said, I come from a heavily gang infested area. They pretty much had to be strict or it could literally cause students their life. And unfortunately some innocent (not gang members) kids did get shot and killed leaving school. That's why I think this whole dress code thing is so trivial.
This whole "let me show off my shoulders! My individuality!" Crap is ridiculous. Shut up and focus on your education. Leave that shit for when you get home.
And that's fine. But do that out of school. If your focus when going to school is to show off your shoulders or collarbones, then good riddance. Your focus should be on your education, NOT appearance, NOT to be trendy, NOT to be fashionable. YOUR EDUCATION is what is important.
They're being sent home because of what the school thinks (especially about guys being horndogs and lacking concentration if you even show off your ankles), not because they're unable to focus on their education.
Like I said, your goal should be education. Looking trendy and fashionable should be a bonus, not your goal at school. So I'm very glad when they're sent home for being disruptive and even more when schools refuse to cave to political pressure.
I have to say that as a teen i was a horndog And yeah.. The femalea always had my attention. Not sure if i would pay attention to the teachers otherwise either but just saying. And they were pretty covered up. A collarbone in thosedays would hav been incredibly nice
Although I still don't agree with you, you made the best argument for it without being condescending nor insulting.
I do agree that the US is insanely obsessed with puritanical beliefs, hilariously ironic for our teen pregnancy rate. However, I still feel that preparing kids for future careers is extremely important, and as I said, I've spoken to many HR reps who have had young people wearing shirts that say "#swag", wearing miniskirts etc. And that's just not appropriate for work.
Some dresscodes are plain ridiculous. For example, my old school did not allow spaghetti tops, because apparently, shoulders are waaayy to sexy. I think because there is a way bigger focus on women's sexuality then men's, that there are more rules for women then for men. Most of them make sense (especially in a career setting), and 15-year old girls should indeed be discouraged to walk around half naked. Although I think the dresscodes are more difficult for girls in highschool, it becomes a larger issue for men in careers. For example, in summer, men often still have to wear suits/long pants/long-sleeved shirt, while women can get away with a no-sleeve shirt and a skirt (e. g. www.google.be/imgres
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I don't think men could wear spaghetti straps either though.
Personally, I believe that women should be able to wear whatever skimpy outfits they like. I directly benefit from this. Oh, you mean school. Meh. I don't have to deal with that, so I don't care. Maybe if I have a daughter at some point, it'll become important to me.
Whoa. Hey now. I grew up sagging. Not like I show my whole ass off, but I literally cannot wear pants on my waist. And my boxers don't show unless my shirt flops up. Nothing inappropriate about it. I mean, I get it if someone's sagging to their knees, but just a couple of inches shouldn't be a problem. That's basically the same thing as a tie, just lower class. A t-shirt covers it. Not even close to the same thing as a chick wearing a miniskirt. Teacher's would just tell us to pull our pants up if they saw. Which we did.
Although yes. Feminism needs oppression to exist to justify itself. So it creates issues that do not exist or blows issues that do exist out of proportion, which ultimately ends up being bad for everyone involved: male or female. Can't fix shit if you don't know what the issues are.
They're not sexist... not at all. Guys don't wear clothes close to crop tops or short shorts. The only time a guy is showing more than what he should, is when he's wearing saggy pants, and that's not allowed in schools, as far as I know.
Honestly, this "dress code is sexist against girls" is just another excuse for certain girls to wear their ass hanging out their shorts. That's not what school is about. Stop yelling sexism every time something is not of your liking, for fucks sake, and learn how to dress appropriately.
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I'm tempted to give you MH lol Completely agree. I hate when they cry wolf with these phony "I'm a victim!" movements. It trivializes actual cases of sexism/racism and just makes us as women look weak and that our appearance is the utmost importance to us. Hell no. Not in school at least.
Give it to me! xD Yeah, it definitely trivializes real cases. Plus, school is a place to prepare you for the future, you can't go to an interview dressing like that, or expect people to take you seriously when you're only covering your nipples. There's a place and a time for everything, and school isn't one to display your body.
@heavenonearth That is stupid, but I don't know if I would call it sexist, it would depend on if they would do the same for a guy if he showed collarbone, but most guy's shirts/t-shirts cover the collarbone.
In my school girls got sent home for wearing tank tops while there was a male PE teacher (and plenty of male students) who would walk around in a tank top in summer all the time and nobody bothered even in the slightest. Another ridiculous example is that girls were not permitted to wear anything with a deep cut out neck while everyone was totally cool with boys walking around V-cut T-shirts that almost showed their nipples. Oh, and then there was this funny rule that you were not permitted to wear skirts or shorts below 40-45cm in length, that of course also only applied to girls. There was not a single dress code directed at boys but more than plenty for girls and I know for a matter of fact that my school is by all means not the only school of this phenomena. See, I'm not opposed to dress codes at all but they have to be reasonable and apply to both genders equally which they, most of the time, do not. Also, instead of teaching girls to "cover up", maybe we should teach people (yes, mainly boys) to control themselves and not to stare so much so there won't be an issue in the first place.
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Again, that's the STAFF BEING SEXIST NOT THE DRESS CODE.
Many times, in the manuals, it does not say "girls cannot wear short skirts", they say something like "skirts are to not be worn 6cm above knee" or something like that. You can insert your own gender pronoun.
Instead of teaching kids they can do as they please, we should teach them there is a time and a place for everything. As I said, there have been stupid ass teens and young adults wearing the worst outfits to interviews and they wonder why they don't get hired. It's because of shit like this, parents letting their kids dress like prostitutes and thugs, and schools having to cave because of stupid movements and hashtags "#IAmNotADistraction" stfu and get an education.
I don't even know why you're so mad tbh.. Anyways..
"Again, that's the STAFF BEING SEXIST NOT THE DRESS CODE." Of course the staff is being sexist, they made the dress code.
"It's because of shit like this, parents letting their kids dress like prostitutes and thugs, and schools having to cave because of stupid movements and hashtags "#IAmNotADistraction" stfu and get an education." I'm sorry if you can't see how talking about the importance of getting education but then sending girls home for petty reasons (like them wearing a tank top which is violating the more than ridiculous dress code) and therewith preventing them from getting that exact education contradicts itself. And again, I don't have any oppositions against dress codes as long as they are not being abused to openly shame girls for their bodies and force them to cover up like some nun.
I think that we preach girls to cover up and shame them when they don't instead of teaching boys to have some self control and to mind their own goddamn business is a pretty pathetic display of the society we live in..
Where did I ever state that I was okay with girls wearing crop tops and booty shorts to school or guys wearing saggy pants? Please tell me, because I'm honestly curious.
I'm gonna end this conversation here because you're just gonna continue to make what you want out of what I actually say so I figure you're not gonna learn anything from this anyways. Sad, but oh well..
Not sure if you're trolling or actually that retarded.. Anyways, learn how to read properly before making any more assumptions about people commenting here.
You are the one who doesn't realize that male and female bodies are different, and that they wear different clothes. So it's pointless to tell a guy to not wear a spaghetti strap, because he isn't going to be an entitled brat and try to get away with it.
"You are the one who doesn't realize that male and female bodies are different, and that they wear different clothes. So it's pointless to tell a guy to not wear a spaghetti strap, because he isn't going to be an entitled brat and try to get away with it."
And you concluded that from which part of anything I've said here?
From the "they were not permitted to wear skirts or shorts below 40-45cm in length, that of course also only applied to girls". Why would they tell guys to not do this if they already don't?
Lol Again, why would they tell boys to not wear mini skirts if they already don't?
And dress codes usually do not even bring up gender. I know I transferred from school to school a lot, and they never directly addressed any gender. It was "pants are to be worn with belts at waist" as opposed to "boys cannot wear sagging pants" Or "skirts are to be worn no more than 4cm above knee" as opposed to "girls cannot wear short skirts".
I'm not sure if all schools are like that, but I think most definitely are.
"I'm not sure if all schools are like that, but I think most definitely are."
That's your experience.. And as you can see, if you actually read my original opinion, mine is different. Obviously opinions on this matter are gonna depend on personal experiences so I don't know what you expected..
I'm pretty sure most school dress codes are like that. I'm talking about if you read the verbatim written manual. I'd be willing to bet money that the majority of them do say it objectively without any gender pronoun.
Problem is though, that the actions of the staff are often very different from what's written in the manual. If there are exclusively girls being sent home to change while boys who are very obviously violating the dress codes are being left alone, the dress code is obviously flawed and the staff is using this to abuse it. And yes, my school did have gender specific pronouns in it and out of 5 rules, 4 were directed at girls.
Then, again, that is the staff being sexist, which i agree is wrong, But I do not think the solution is to just fuck the dress code and let everyone wear what they want, the solution is to enforce it for boys too.
And that would be a problem, I agree, but as I said, the solution is to correct it, not get rid of it.
That staff makes, enforces and writes the dress code. You can't ask a question, have people point out times a dress code was clearly biased against females vs males and then try to change the nature of the question by saying "it was staff, not code!". Staff is the dress code if and when they enforce it. Many examples have been given of sexism in play. That doesn't mean there is always sexism in play. Just that it happens, and that is no surprise. Bigotry, racism, sexism, these things are not dead. Many things are less severe, but problems still arise and if we're smart, we push to address them and weed them out more and more. Don't punish people for complaining when a complaint has merit.
It's clear from your rebuttals you were not expecting anyone to disagree with you. Don't ask a question if you don't want to accept the results sometimes disagreeing with your personal narrative.
@Murie I already explained it and I'm tired of you illiterate women needing me to repeat it over and over again.
I transferred a lot from school to school. Of all the schools i went to, not a single one said "girls cannot wear short skirts." Not one. Yes, I've always been that dork who reads manuals and everything.
They did everything to avoid gender pronouns. It usually read something along the lines of: "Skirts are to be worn no more than 3 inches above the knee." "Pants are to be worn around the waist with no undergarments exposed and a belt if necessary".
Not one time did I read "girls can't wear short skirts. Guys can't sag their pants."
I'm not sure if all dress codes are like this, but I'm almost willing to bet that a majority of them are.
Now, if it does single out either gender, I'd agree that's sexist and needs to be revised to read gender neutral.
So, what you *are* stating is *in your experience* none of YOUR school manuals used verbiage that you felt to be sexist. Got it. That doesn't make you right, however, because from that you assume all schools have the same types of manuals or codes and the same enforcement. They don't. I & others have pointed out examples that demonstrate sexism in both the code AND the enforcement of said code in schools you clearly did not go to. That doesn't make me/them illiterate or lacking understanding. It means you drew a correlation between your experiences and those of others, even when they explained their experiences were different and how in ways that made it clear some of them were sexist codes and you refuse to accept that. If you refuse to accept that sexism in dress codes can and does happen EVEN IN OTHER SCHOOLS, the fault is not in all of us, but in you not being open to the very possibility that other people had other experiences thnyou
@Murie show me exactly verbatim where they specify "girls cannot wear short skirts" and I'll believe you. I do agree with the enforcement being sexist but not the dress code in itself
Nope, ladies, don't get too caught up in being a feminist, to me, that belittles women as much, or more, than the acts of which they are fighting against. What is wrong with being a "lady" these days? In terms of dress code, I totally agree that kids wearing sagging pants, sloppy, etc. is hideous. That said, there is absolutely dress codes that address these "fashion flaws." Dress codes, as they pertain to women, are for the most part, fine. Have you seen how some of the young girls dress today? Just look at the picture you posted here, who on earth would want their daughter to dress like that? Think about it, what is the purpose? That's not sexist, it is called respectful. Everything shouldn't always be thought of as a put down. There is nothing wrong with establishing a general guideline, dependent on the venue and situation (an attorney in a court room vs a waitress at Hooters will have different, guidelines establishing appropriate attire relative to "venue and situation". That is my opinion and I'm sticking to it..
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Dress codes are no where near sexist. Female codes are more detailed because women have a much wider range of clothing options but generally the underlying rule is to not expose your sexual parts (which women ignore anyway) If a male wore tights and the lines of his genitals were visible, it wouldn't be ok. But girls wear tights and walk around with camel toe all day. Girls expose their ass cheeks and even labia in short shorts. They wear tiny skirts and little to no underwear which is not done "for comfort"... the ONLY reason a girl would select that option over a more discrete option is for sexual attention. (Don't even pretend it's otherwise)
Girls also wear see through clothes, which includes tights as pants (usually without underwear) and they have no discretion when it comes to bending over or exposing their shit because once again the entitlement attitude is that they should be able to literally rub it in your face and if you react naturally as a male you are wrong and perverted.
Different dress codes for boys and girls is sexist. That's the way it should be. All the feminists need to get a dose of reality and admit that men and women are not the same and should not be treated the same. I treat men and women differently. I suppose that makes me a sexist in the eye of some. But I don't care what they think.
By the way. When I was in school, boys and girls not only had different dress codes, but they even took different classes. Boys took shop class, and girls took home ec (sewing, cooking etc). These were required classes for graduation. The thing is that we were a very liberal and outspoken generation, but nobody ever said a word about taking different classes.
Difference does not equal sexism. Sexism is perceiving males or females to be superior to the other, or discriminating against one of them. I fail to see how a dress code that applies differently to men and women = sexism, since males and females do not wear the same thing. This applies to workplace dress codes as well. Women obviously wear skirts, where men don't. Just because it is acceptable for women to wear long pencil skirts at work, while men do not, does not make it sexist.
@meowcow I disagree that sexism is only about superiority. It just means treating the sexes differently. Feminists want to twist it into meaning superior, but feminists are full of shit.
Went to co-ed Catholic grade school (in high school I went to a boys only Catholic school, so I can't speak for that). In school, boys had to wear blue slacks, a brown belt, brown dress shoes, and a red polo, long or short sleeve. Girls, on the other hand, could wear a specific maroon and red plaid dress that went below the knees, a white dress shirt, optional stockings for the cold, and dress shoes, or a white dress shirt, a brown belt, blue slacks and dress shoes. I like the uniform system. It's a reminder that you are a student first when at school, as well as a way to standardize looks, so as to prevent inappropriate clothing as well as clothing that would garner negative attention.
The poll is poorly worded. I worked under the assumption that the dress codes in question had a double standard because the codes you see crop up in the news are of that type. A dress code *at all* for both genders... normal. Schools are not runways. But a dress code that unfavorably puts a burden on females to be more conservative and have stricter options than guys, that is not fair.
And please stop the "just be grateful you get schooling, there are girls with no schooling out there!" arguments. You understand that argument is bollocks right? It's like telling someone that just because you slap them they shouldn't complain because the neighbor actually killed HIS wife, so stop bitching. A wrong is a wrong. Some are big, some are little, but if you have it in your power to see and right a wrong, you do it. You don't apologize for it and excuse it. That's the mentality of a slave that has no power to make things better. We are not slaves.
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There are girls who literally get told they cannot go to school because they are girls, THAT is sexism. MY MOTHER WAS TOLD THIS BY HER OWN PARENTS, every time I read this crap about "sexist dress codes" I just shake my head at how stupid some girls and women can be.
The only reason it targets women more, is because they are the ones who insist on wearing crop tops to school. Why the fuck would they tell a boy to not wear booty shorts if he's already not doing that? Use common sense ladies, geez. You're making us look bad.
Way to hate on your own gender. Why say things like that? Yes, being denied education is literally inhuman. All humans should have the right to education. Now, why can you not see that while it is a lesser evil, it is still an injustice to have a dbl standard on dress codes? If males are not told they cannot wear a comparable item, why are females restricted? That is the issue here. Not reasonable dress codes, but unreasonable ones. Case in point - a girl wore a very nice tux to prom and was kicked out. She was told it was not appropriate. The same type of tux the boys were wearing. Therefor, that *tux* was not an issue. SHE wearing the tux was a problem. Why? Why can a woman not wear a nice suit that the boy next to her is wearing? There is no reasonable, rational reason for it. That's a double standard, it's indefensible beyond being a sexist dress code & the type that SHOULD be struck down. Whether you call someone jerk or c-word, it's still an insult. Don't defend hypocrisy.
I firmly believe that all schools should have a uniform. If the uniform is worn improperly, "tickets" are given. After a certain number of tickets are issued, the student is suspended. In order to ensure that the ticket was given fairly, photo records should be kept, giving the student the opportunity to appeal a suspension.
If a student gets a ticket for wearing a ripped sweater (which happened at my high school) and their family can't afford to get it fixed or to get a new one, the ticket should be forgiven and the item replaced by the school.
I don't think its the people who put the dress codes in place that are sexist. If anything, its the companies that make clothes.
When I was in school, sleeveless shirts were banned for male students, but female students got away with wearing them all the time. All the other guys bitched and whine about it, but i understood why.
Girls werent allowed to wear shorts that were shorter than a certain length, or a neckline that went down to far, but the reason us men didn't have those restrictions is because they simply don't MAKE clothes like that for us.
Sleevless shirts allowed us to show off our arms a little more, but that's IT. There was no other way for us to break the dress code even if we wanted to.
No they ain't sexist both men and women have to adhere to them at school the rules are there for a reason you break the rules you get punished. Only those who lack self awareness, don't care or ignorant will ever have a major issue with them.
And honestly what should a girl expect if she dresses like a slut or whore like the girl above, a free pass? life doesn't work that way.
In my experience girls get away with showing more skin than guys. I notice the same thing with Hollywood events, the girls show up half naked or in skin colored see through outfits while the guys all wear suits. Then they complain how they are judged for what they wear while the male celebrity werent. =.=
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Lol we finally agree on something. YES.
Now, you can't even tell a girl to cover her ass because it's gonna be on the news "Teen girl, victim of sexism, wearing a mini skirt" or some other stupid healdine.
Well, i think your question and description are not correlated to each other.
Dress codes are to some extent sexist IF they require girls to wear skirts and a certain attire that only 'females' can wear...
But what you described is not sexist, it is just young boys and girls who DO NOT KNOW HOW TO APPROPRIATELY dress and cover up for certain situations or just ever. Then that is not sexist but low self esteem men and women who are not educated at home and don't know how to dress/behave :) :)
Maybe they're not sexist but I still don't agree with them. I don't see why girls aren't allowed to wear crop tops and booty shorts if that's how they want to dress. Saying it distracts male students is insulting to both genders, since it insinuates men are animals who can't control their sexual urges, and that women can only be there as long as they aren't bothering the males in any way. The whole dress code thing should be abolished, you're making a problem where there should be none. At my school girls can wear completely see through tops with push up bras underneath, be unbuttoned down to their navel or wear no bra under very thin, tight materials and no one bats an eye. No one should dictate what people can wear.
Yes they can do so if they want to, Im attending a business school though so no one does it there. In middle school guys sagging their pants was very common and still no one cared.
Both are inappropriate in my opinion. As I said I've spoken to HR people and the horrendous things young adults/teens have worn to interviews.
This is why I'm for dress code and uniform especially, it teaches kids that sometimes that cute off the shoulder top is actually not appropriate to wear everywhere. No, it's not sexism because it also teaches young boys that those pants they ironically sag with a belt, actually go around their waist. And many places, the majority actually, of employment prefer this. And I'm grateful to work for such places as these.
I'm not saying that they shouldn't be allowed to wear those trendy outfits, but there is a time and a place.
I think dresscode contributes to the negative over sexualization of bodies. Schools should instead of telling kids what to wear, teach them how to think so they may become rational enough not to wear booty shorts and saggy pants at a job interview.
I think wearing tank tops and cleavage and tight pants where the jock strap is showing are doing more to sexualize bodies than dress codes.
And as I said, if you allow it at school they'll think "hey, my school let me wear this tank top with my cleavage spilling out. My job would probably too!" And then they don't get hired.
So we should wear turtle necks and loose pants not to be provocative? What about when it's warm outside, are people in tank tops and shorts still dirty sluts?
And what's wrong with t shirts and jeans? Why do feminists insist that we mean to wear turtlenecks? Wtf?
I never said they were sluts, it's just merely inappropriate for school. And many schools have AC or fans. Besides, the dress code doesn't just allow boys to be topless, they have to be in the "oppressive' shirts and pants too.
Yea because showing shoulders is what makes an otherwise decent outfit suitable for a stribclub.
Schools might have fans but outside does not, and you'd assume these people don't spend their whole life at school. If it's really hot people will be practically dying in jeans, which will affect their ability to learn.
This is not about girls being allowed to be topless, it's about not having to hide their bodies in big jeans and giant shirts because they apparently are extremely sexy.
I had to walk to school. It wasn't the worst thing in the world. Carry water. Girls just make a big deal out of any little thing that doesn't go their way.
No, they just want to wear summer clothes in the summer, calm down. Thank God only a minority are as conservative as you. You should try moving to the middle east, I think you will find their values to align far better with yours than those of the western world.
Really? Because I wear flowy tops, that are a lot more breathable and comfortable for the heat than tight tops, they cover my shoulders, don't expose cleavage, and with capri pants. Not conservative and not indecent either :)
Though I do like how they dress in the middle east, I'm not a fan of religion nor actual misogyny. Nice try though. Go back to your nudist resort.
Yes we should all conform to your conservative standards, because you are obviously right and we are sluts, thank you for trying to save our souls, little miss entitled.
Everyone knows that seeing a bit of cleavage is equal to being shot, women having boobs is the doom of humanity, oh the terror.
If you actually read what I've posted you'd see I am not screaming misogyny, Im just saying it's peoples own choice what they wear. This is about freedom to wear whatever, not about how western women are oppressed. Is your reading comprehension horrible, or is your IQ just on the level of wet cardboard?
Lol point it out. Because I never made any statement "women who dress provocatively are sluts". This is just another feminist attack on the person, not argument. And supposedly I'm the one with a low IQ lol
I do. I don't appreciate people who knock on literacy and IQ, and then have the audacity to make up lies.
If you can't point out where I said that dressing like that makes you a slut/whore, then you're just not worth arguing with anymore. Learn to read and have a good day young lady.
You still haven't pointed out where i supposedly said that provocative clothes=slut. You are just bringing up all this other shit to cover up the fact lol
I fully agree with your point - I fully expect a principal to send home a girl in short shorts that expose more ass cheek than they cover and a boy to get send home if the waist of his jeans are somewhere around mid hip. www.instylebuzz.com/.../maxresdefault.jpg
No it's not... they need to have these rules at school. School isn't a fashion show or a club. You go there to learn and if parents don't care about how their child is dress the school should step in. I've seen a lot of inappropriate clothing and i don't know if it's purposely done to get attention from male teachers or what but I shouldn't see your ass falling out your shorts or pussy. These young girls are someone's daughter niece granddaughter aunt etc and it's just disturbing. I wouldn't want anyone outside of school to dress that way but it's their choice but for school inappropriate.
Generally, no. In some schools it's a bit screwed up. My friend Nathan for example, wears short ass short shorts and he never gets dress coded. If I were to wear a pair of shorts an inch above my knee I'd get 2 hours detention and have to wear some used up PE shorts. That's a little sexist if you ask me.
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I disagree, it would be the staff that is sexist, not the dress code in itself.
True. The staff at my school sort of sucks lol. Some of the dudes are total pervs too, they rarely dress code the hot chicks, they just sort of look at them. Yet you see a chubby girl with a hole the size of a dime on her jeans above her knee and BAM detention.
In general, I don't think so. I haven't seen much sexism about it. Some schools care about silly things though, like that case in Kentucky of a girl being reprimanded for going against the dress code because her collarbone was showing. That's just ridiculous.
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That's because usually clothes that show collarbone show cleavage as well.
Ah, well that's where I disagree then. I get short shorts and crop tops not being allowed, and other revealing clothes, but a normal outfit should be fine.
I voted 'no'. Dress codes from what I know aren't just to prevent girls from dressing provocative, it also means that men can't walk around in crummy T-shirts, wifebeaters shirts, sneakers and pants hanging below their behind. Dress codes are set in place to influence a professional environment. There's a time and a place to dress a certain way. It has nothing to do with sexism.
I totally agree with you. And letting your underage kid go to school looking all sexy or gangsta is not good parenting and does not teach good values at all. Part of the reason our society is having issues. Because these kids grow up to be adults with the same pathetic values and dress the same way and do wonder why they can't get a good job.
I don't think it's sexist because women just have more to cover than dudes. I know with my high school the dress code was to not wear anything higher than your knee's, shirts that show off cleavage, and tank tops. Which makes sense because that way you can't have any kind of accidents of others seeing your boobs and other things.
Gotta dress for the occasion, you don't dress like you are going to the beach when traveling to alaska... so why dress like you are going for a porn audition when going to get an education? they aren't sexist... the wearers are just dumb.
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