Arab Muslim guys!!! Are us non Muslim girls are just for practice?
I'm really attracted to Arab guys because, not to generalize, but they tend to be exceedingly more respectful than a lot of other guys. Not just that... Show More
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I'm Egyptian who lives in Egypt :)
Ok. I'll try to make myself clear for you to understand. I love our culture, traditions and religion but it is true that Arab girls treat different girls...differently.
Arab men have this double standardism in everything and they certainly admit it by the way. That's how they were raised to become. They might be very charming, successful, intelligent, fashionable, etc..but have this stupid concepts when it comes to women. Maybe it's because of the conservative culture we live in (Egypt is very moderate but still not open as US, Europe, etc..). The following doesn't imply on all Arab guys but certainly the majority:
Arab guys treat conservative, cute, religious, etc.. girls in a good manner. They don't play with them because they see them as marriage material. So, if they want to play they stay away from them. On the other hand, if a girl is playful hot flirty etc.. they have no problem fooling around with her.
Arab guys (and believe me because I'm an Arab) tend to think that non-Arab girls (& sometimes non-their country's girls) are "easy" material who keep their vaginas ready for them! Is it true? Ofcourse not. But you're asking for what they think. I know many friends who live now in America, Canada, England, etc..who talks sh*t about girls. I don't like that & I attak them when they do. There's this guy (who's considered a decent guy here) told me once (he wanted to marry me but I knew he was fooling around while he was in America) that it was nothing. He was just fooling around & that they're nothing. Just for pleasure but once he thinks about marriage he'll never consider them.
Honey, I hope I made myself clear. Arab men can seem so charming because they're warm, considerate, emotional, ...but that isn't the reality. It's just a way to get onto your lips or bed. A true Arab man when married controls his wife, let her raise the kids by herself, clean the house, ...while he doeswhat he wants with the excuse that he brings money home! Arab men suffer high levels of double standardism so I don't think charming is the word.
I hope I helped :)
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I just asked my Saudi roommate your question and he said that he would have sex with a western girl but only marry a Saudi girl.
Honestly its about the guy. Some middle eastern guys will marry girls from other faiths and countries. because you can't help who you fall in love with.
However thats not all of them. There are a lot of middle eastern guys who come to other countries and sleep around before going back home and marrying a girl from there.
Im sure I will get a lot of guys who are also from the middle east who will say its not true
Im Palestinian, I was born here, and I have seen it more times than I can count.
It does simply depend on the guy and how he thinks and what he wants. Some people will go with traditional marriages and marry someone from where they are from, while others will marry just a muslim girl.
There are some couples I've met where the girl has converted to Islam and it has appeased the guys parents.
But in short, to answer your question: to some guys western girls are practice.
Personally I think that people who do this are deplorable. I do not abide by it, nor condone it. Its one of the reasons that I stopped hanging out with that many arabs. A lot of the guys who come from over seas are worse than guys who were born here, but again you still are going to have to take into consideration that it depends on the guy, and his family.
There are some guys I know who married non arab girls and his family treats the girl badly. Some families will be fine with it, even if the girl does not convert.
If you plan date a guy make sure you get a good handle on the guy.
I can tell you stories that will turn your hair white. Plus the movie not without my daughter made my dating life hell.
NO excuse me but you are so wrong because the Arabic guy can marry girl who is not in the same religion and that is OK in Islam and that happens all the time lots of arab guys I know in person marry non arabic girls
and I am sorry but this is the fact
It depends on the country he is from and more on the individual as always. A lot of middle eastern countries are so dramatically different from one another that one can have more in common with a western country.
Okay, first of all thanks for presenting your honest views about Arab men, and for opening this discussion about what's good and bad about Arab men.
To get to the point, Arab men are culturally programmed to act in a certain way:
step 1- meet an attractive women
step 2- meet the woman's family
step 3- get engaged to that woman for a short period
step 4- get married
step 5- have children and make a little family.
So basically Arab men have one goal: to get married.
The problem with marrying women from different culture is simply:
- the language (sometimes family members don't speak English)
- religion: some men want their wives to be Muslim
- geography: sometimes men work in foreign country, but want to go back home.
So, you see, it's complicated.
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Here's a real-life case, a happy American woman married to Arab man:
The Arab/American Marriage
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And BTW, I've met many beautiful and intelligent American woman who are marriage material, and if I find one of them is good for me, I will marry her and will treat her like a princess. And will let her tell you about her experience with a typical Arab man.
Wow, i'm an arab male and these generalizations about us are horrible. I am conservative when it comes to sex and would only have sex when it comes to a serious relationship and I would get with someone who felt the same way. That doesn't mean I will get fool around with non-muslims, wtf.
Also, regarding them being controlling husbands, that might be true if they were raised up in a different country. Generalizations, honestly get to know whoever you fancy before you judge, you never know you miss out on something special.
Also, don't give out.. that's enough for any guy to lose respect regardless of race.
not really. usually they date them to see if they would be the right women for them and how they would fit with their culture.. but cause the culture is so different, they see that there is no point to it and just marry a nice muslim women who understand their culture and respect it.
however, there are many cases where they find someone they like who is even better educated smart respectful and most of all beautiful inside out then i would personally go for it
Hi I am a Syrian American guy and I am going to tell you the secret for all this.
Rule 1.) "Go blond or go home"
This is the rule Syrian mothers tell their sons, I am pretty sure every Syrian heard this one!
I am going to tell you the way i rate an American girl. Is she a slut, does they way she dresses make her look like a slut, does she have a tattoo, how many guys did she sleep with, is she very bold with what she thinks and wants, and does she think I would be ok with all this?
As you see I all this information is taken into account if I wanted a long term relationship with a American girl, plus these are the questions you should ask your self and then you will see what an Arab guy thinks of you.
All i can say is BLEEEEHHHHH...
This is not arab guy's fault, it's your fault for being weak in Love then cried later on.
Let me repeat of my self.
I'm an Arab American, originally from Palestine, and I know this question was asked over a year ago, but I want to discourage the current and future female readers of this page to disregard a majority of the negative perceptions of Arab men that they may have read on this page or on some other website or heard from a female or male friend of theirs, unless you've come face to face and have actually conversed with an Arab person (whether male or female) on this subject matter. Everyone else purporting to have insightful information on Arab males, are potentially not even of Arab origin themselves, this is especially true of those intolerant and ignorant belligerents posing as such.
With regards to your two prominent inquires, "are non-Muslim women 'practice'" and "would an Arab Muslim male marry a non-Muslim female," obviously it depends on the individual Arab Muslim. I'll answer both questions at once, for me, it would apparently be dependent on whether I felt an affinity with her beyond the physical attributes and characteristics. If my inner self did desire to bond with hers for the remainder of my human life (life on earth), then I'd vividly want her as my wife, and I, as her husband. Again, this is solely me, but I'd also want her to convert to Islam. For some males, Muslim and non-Muslim, this is essential. For others, it isn't. For me, it is. It's not required that she be Muslim initially, before the relationship has progressed into the advanced stages, but ultimately, I personally would want her to convert, on her own will of course. And if she refused to convert, and it was vital to me that she did (which it is), then I'd assess the situation and move from there.
Muslim man is allowed to marry a women of heaven-sent religions (Muslim or Jewish or Christian woman) as long as she has faith in the one and only one God. He is not allowed to marry woman/girl of non-heaven sent religions. However, if man has concern that the children will be influenced to be other than Muslim if he marries Jewish or Christian woman, then he should not do it. The children have to be Muslims by religion and should be raised according to Islam religion. The answer below is not much different.
So! Cannot marry until the non-Muslim accepts Islam and convert to Islam if the non-Muslim is not Jewish or Christian (called People of the Book). According to Quran, Woman from, 'People of Book' is allowed for marriage with a Muslim man without converting to Islam religion.
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Hate to say it but yeah
Arab guys just go around with other girls but at the end they know they are going to break up with whatever girl and just get with a a girl
When this happens I feel REALLY bad for the girl because she doesn't know about all the things the guy did before they got together and she thinks he is a nice guy but he really isn't =/
Religion is an individual thing (atleast it should be) so a lot of people from the same religions will have varying degrees of religiousness, some of them might think like this, some won't, you can't prejudge everyone under one group
Well Arab guys are allowed to date a non Muslim/arab, that is accepted. I think its only under the condition that the girl still convert to islam though but they deffinitly can date out. Muslim girls are restricted to only marrying Muslim guys
I don't know about the rumours I am hearing but I am Egyptian Canadian and here are some facts. I don't care about the religion of a girl or where she comes from. I am not looking for any flings. I know some arab guys have a bad reputation but you can't know unless you try for your self. I have heard some that some arab girls hate on Egyptian guys out of jealousy. My friend was in a long-term relationship with a girl and they were going to get married. His stupid egyptian female friend kept telling the white Canadian the same kind of stuff you are saying. Although that's not why they split up, he was very annoyed about the rumors that the egyptian girl was spreaading. Here are some facts to clear things up. My brothers best friend is married to a white Canadian. My cousin just married a white Canadian this summer. My other cousin who is actually 100% Egyptian lives in Germany. He has been married to a white-german girl for over 5 years and they have a very cute little daughter. I have met them quite a few times and they seem like a very happy family. I honestly don't care about a girl's religion, cultural/racial background or whatever. All of these comments from girls who claim to be arab though just remind me that being with an arab girl is probably the least thing that is likely to happen.
Ok here is an interesting perspective... I am a non Arab male who married into a conservative arab family only to end up in tears and heartache.
You want truth? Get ready bc its ugly and perhaps its bias bc the family was born here yet stuck to traditional ideals.
Ok Arab guys (U. S) are pompous, arrogant, showy, pretentious and highly judgmental. Anything NON arab is considered sh! t. Also highly racist. I come from a god fearing good Spanish family but don't ever judge me based on what i do/don't have.
Church: Filled with people who pretend to be honest Christians only to show up in the most disrespectful of outfits while talking behind peoples back only to hide the snow that exists in front of your house.
Point blank... if you want to marry an arab male/female do yourself a favor and learn the language secretly and dont tell anyone about it. Then really pay attention to what is being said. Play the role of 'Hamlet' and witness whats around you. You will pleasantly surprised with the hypocrisy that permeates every aspect of your life with this person. In addition, get ready to be compared to... this holds especially true for girls... wow u guys go through a lot. All that matters is reputation, money and prestige. No one gives a rats ass if you are a good person and everyone is trying to sell you some line of pure bullshit.
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It's understandable if their family (the wealthy ones) have total control of their destiny (arranged marriage deals) and having a non muslim marry into the family won't gel so well with their family since they don't know arabic to communicate with them.
C: ... lmao a lot of people say that
Hey I live in Holland and I dated a few Moroccans, 5paki men, aTunesian, a Iraqi, couple of Egyptian men and 4 Somali men,
I love Arab men and I'm not to good in relationships in general and neither were they actually. I had a lot of fun with them and they are very passionate and cute and manly dominant(in a good way) but they will end up choosing for a Muslima.
They just want a good time with us western girls
i myself fell into an arab man. As you said, they were treating me like a queen. But we end up nowhere.and I have to always forgive him when he messes around with other girls.so painful.I can't do anyting except forgiving him. I am trapped.
I dont think that all of them like that. I met my Arab husband on holiday and he never treated me as a experiment. I even met his all family , he never forced me to convert to Islam. I met his parents before and also i never felt that they would treat me different if i am Muslim.
Your explanation has personally happened to me. My advice is to keep Arab guys as friends, but never let them into your bed.
As an Arab-Muslim girl, I may have some facts that might help with this "dating/marriage - Muslim/Non-Muslim" situation
So, as a religious Muslim girl, if I were to marry, I would have to marry a Muslim man since in our religion the child both belongs to the man, and has to be Muslim. Get it?
But, it's different for a Muslim man since he's already Muslim, if he were to marry someone, he'd be allowed to choose from one of the three Abrahamic religions (Judaism, Christianity, and Islam) when we chose someone to date/marry.
Then the baby would be taking on the mans religion, which would still be Muslim, and the man would be able to have a wife with a different religion. :D
But, in most cases for a man, when you marry someone that's not of the same religion, they usually convert just for the best of your child.
Hope this could help out in some way~
See, even me, as a religious person >.< I'm dating a christian, it's not that bad since he's one of the religions but in this society and generation, it doesn't seem to matter all so much since
1) Even if he does convert for me (which would be a total blessing) He's probably not gonna follow anything, or be religious with me in that matter and
2) Most people just convert to be safe, if you really loved the person you'd do it for them, make them happy so you two can be together
And no, i don't think of him as practice or anything, he's like... I so wanna be his future wifey ;-;
I am a Palestinian and Well first of all Its forbidden for Muslims to date. And to be honest it's all about Arabian culture and that in the end the man and family are pleased with an Arabian woman who knows culture and religion to raise the kids. No matter what nationality you are tho Muslims must marry muslim, unless you are a Muslim man you can marry a non Muslim as long as the children follow Islam and take the father's religion but over all the Arabian mentality is that Arabs must marry Arabs or else they're fround upon (which is not what the religion says but what can ya do) not saying in anyway I'm against marrying an Arab man lol
I am a regular Canadian woman who has been married to a middle eastern man for the last 23 years and believe me I am just finding out what they are all about. I found pictures on his cellphone of him having sex with a girl 18 years old he works with. He seems to think it was ok he did that and blames me for everything he did and does. At this point we are separated and he is staying at her place. He is still saying its all my fault for not being there for him and he says I am trying to control him. I am not controlling him in fact he has never had to be here all the years with me and his sons. Only when I was the main money maker he had to stay at home and take care of them because he lost his job and with my salary we couldnt afford a babysitter. he has been able to go back home when ever he has wanted. In fact he left for back home when I was 8 months pregnant with my 2nd son and he didn't even see him till one month had passed. In my experience I know quite a few middle eastern men who have had non middle eastern wives and end in divorce or they end up getting middle eastern wives but still fool around on their middle eastern wives. At the moment we are living apart. I have left the decision for us up to him for the moment I cannot make up his mind. He has to do it. I need to know his decision so I can move on with my life and remain in this limbo I am in now,.
Don't date arab guys that are outside your religion! It will never work out! I know from experience! I dated a Muslim Arabic guy. And it ended because it wasn't going anywhere! He could never commit! I am know dating a Arabic man who is catholic like me and he makes me so much happier! Try dating a catholic or Christian ! You will be so much happier! Muslim Arabs are not bad , but a relationship will only lead to a break up or you converting to Islam !
I moved to Dubai to be a flight attendant. I am a Caucasian woman. It doesn't matter which country. I flew for Emirates for 3 years and only finished recently. I had no opinions on Arab men before going there. When I first arrived to Dubai admittedly I saw cute ones all the time. Mostly skinny guys. I do prefer athletic men and very few Arab men are athletic. (Just look at all the major sports like football and in the Olympics). But every once in awhile you would find an Arab man who I could tell goes to the gym. So usually I just saw handsome faces and skinny non-athletic men. Most western women do not find this attractive though. So, of course I have to go by personality. These handsome men with skinny bodies. I could only hope they had interesting things to talk about and fun personalities.
Now, my judgement of Arab men spans all over the Middle East, not just Dubai. So when you read this, don't think this is just "Dubai men".
Remember I traveled the world. I went to over 100 countries, and before I worked for Emirates I also traveled all over. I went to Morocco, Tunisia, Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Bahrain, Saudi Arabia, Lebanon etc, you get the idea. So I met men from all of those countries and many many more.
In my interactions, of course there are respectful and disrespectful men in all cultures. Just as there will always be good and bad.
I found Arab men to be the most disrespectful of women I have ever encountered. Emirates employs women from all around the world. So I have friends and co-workers from really every nation on the planet, and we all thought the same thing. The Chinese, Korean, Brazilian, French, Australian, Singaporean, Mexican, American, Spanish... really, every country and race you can think of... they all thought the BEHAVIOR of the Arab men was disgusting. We were grabbed on the ass in planes the most by Arab men. In each of the Arab countries the men treated us like we were lower than men.
I am a Chinese girl.I recently met an Saudi Arabian guy in college. He is really nice and always buys me food. He is such a gentleman and nothing like chinese guys. He would open the door for me, pull my chair etc etc. We make out once in his car and give our first kiss to each other but never had sex.
He did confessed his love to me but I just didn't feel the same way. But we still hang out a lot. He told me all about himself and his family. I even met some of his friends and they are really nice.
Now here is the thing, he live at the hostel and I went to his room once. Me and him alone in the room. I sat on his bed all the time. And hear this he didn't do anything inappropriate to me. He just sat on his work table and hardly get near the bed. I know I must be so lucky to met him because if its any other guys, I will lose my virginity by now.
Sometimes we would go to his car at the empty parking lot. And listen, he never tried to touch me or anything even if we are alone.
I know he wanted us to kiss again because he been hinting it a lot and even ask me outright. I said no many times and he just listen to me and didn't argue. He never force kiss me or anything.
I couldn't say it for all Arabian guys out there. He is the first arabian guy I met. What I wanted to say is, they may be all Arabs but we certainly cannot generalize all Arab men. They maybe Arab but they have different upbringing and personalities.
We cannot judge a person by its race alone. I am Chinese and I can certainly tell you that there are also tons of chinese guys who are heartless and use woman for sex
Happen to me. 5yrs I dated him. We were friends from age 13. started dating age 22. he put me through so much I love them so much. He fooled me over and over. then he up and left to go to India to find a wife I never told me anything. he degraded me with his words, cheated on me hit me. without a sleep on the phone every day for four and a half years. then he just insulted me so badly and left. telling me to kill myself. to walk into a gun range in just put a bullet in my head. I wake up in the middle of the night with my core aching in pain for him. I feel as though he's broken my soul and my spirit. he told me such horrible things and then said thank you for the practice sexual practice. then told me how much he cheated on me and let me taste of the girls off of him without telling me. I was humiliated disgusted I really just wanted to die. all that I thought was real was not. I really was just a practice girlfriend for him that he used and disposed.
I'm a western woman married to a muslim arab from north africa since 10 years, and I travelled a lot in north africa and Dubai with him.
There are large cultural differences between Arab countries. African Norths are more westernized than the Arab Gulf. North African have a lot on french influences and are more "normal" for me. But Gulf arab have a very different culture and they very rarely marry women who are not from their country. I respect Gulf arabs men and women a lot but I would never date a Gulf arab man. I just think some cultures are not compatibles and I would not be a good wife for a Gulf arab. But even with the North Africans it's not always simple. They are mummy guys, and usually mothers in laws are horribles with the stepdauthers, even if she is maghrebian. Even if you convert to Islam, they could remain very racists with you. you must do all the integration efforts. They will never make any effort to accommodate you. They will speak arabs in front of you all days and never place any words in french or English to help you to follow the conversations. The arabic langage is very hard to learn, but they all think you should learn it easily. They lack empathy and are very self centered people. Here in the West we are brainwashed to not be racist, but in arabs countries racism is "normal". Arabs girls in his family or his friends usually are polite but don't want to be friend with you because you are not arab. Some of these girls could be jalous of you if you or just not interested to know you.
Despite all these problems, my husband is very romantic, passionate and faithful. He has good values and Islam is not so bad as the media say. But He is totally submissive to his family and never say "no" to his parents.
Also I think our relationship work because I'm very not feminist and I like to be dominated by a man. I like arabs men because They are very masculines, so I know there is a price to pay with it. I don't think that all western women would be able to live with with an arab men. If you are feminist, Forget it.
I am a Cali girl that is 20 years old,
i have been doing some research on Middle eastern guys on how they treat girls and stuff because my boyfriend is from Dubai, but so many different people have told me so many different opinions on middle eastern guys that i honestly do not know what to think of my boyfriend anymore. is it really true that they have arrange marriages? that has been bugging me for the longest lol i trust my boyfriend and all, but when he says "Wallah" (I swear) i kinda have second thoughts of him because i do not know if he really means it or not... it sucks because i want to trust him so much but all of the things that people have told me and the research i have done are so confusing that i am at a point where i do not know what to do anymore :/ he treats me really nice and is respectful with me and very sweet and very Hot! I think he is Perf lol but sad thing is that since he treats me all respectful and nice i think to my self that this is to good to be true and that there is something fishy... and the thing that is stuck to my head 24/7 is if Muslims really hit there gf/wifes :0 i really want to ask my boyfriend, but i do not want to offend him or anything I don't know what to do !!! Anyone has any opinions on what i think? Be Honest please lol :)
I'm 19 and pregnant by my skeezy Arab boyfriend who I should have made wear a condom. Now I'm the biggest whore in his opinion!
I'm a white Canadian and I'm with an arab guy. Our difference in our race, or religious views do not affect us one bit. We have a bunch of other things in common and we love each other. He's the most respectful man I've ever been with. He's considerate, sweet and generous. Also, I'll agree with you, they're sooo hot. I love the color of his skin, the way he smells. He's perfect. So yeah, it's totally possible. Although, I will say, his whole family isn't 100% supportive. They don't make it a big deal, but I know how they feel about me being different. With time they'll get over it. We're in love :D.
I'm an Arab girl (from Kuwait). I wouldn't say all Arab guys are bad; however, I wouldn't say they are all good either. It is sad to say this, but 95% guys in my country (if not 99%) are after one thing. I learned this the hard way. I've been betrayed by my bf, friends, professors, and family members! The society we live in forgive guys actions, which make it easier for them to do what they want. but since Kuwaiti girls are harder to get in bed due to lack of trust & society, they tend to reach non-Kuwaitis, specially western girls, since they trust easier and know nothing about their real motives. Believe me honey when I tell you, they know every trick in the book to get a girls heart! that's why you see them really sweet. However, once you see the real them from most Arab girls prospective, you will understand what we really mean. Of course not all of them are the same. there are men who fall in love and marry non-arabs, but they are the minority. I would say from my own knowledge that 1 from 100 guy is most likely to really mean it. Kuwait society has become corrupted that it is really hard to trust men. Even girls are taking their turns now and becoming worst than guys. A lot Kuwaitis might deny it, but it is the sad truth! (p. s. religion has nothing to do with it)
Arab men like to mess around with non muslim woman, but when it's time to settle down they most likely will do it with a muslim woman and start a family with her. It's not haram to marry a non muslim woman but it is looked down upon and shamed by the family. If you want settle down don't get seriousness with a muslim or Arab man, they are most likely using you until they get married
Who said that Arab men can't marry non-Muslim girls?! Dear, I'm a Muslim Arabic girl.. in our religion it's OK for the guy to marry a non-Muslim girl!
If he loves her he can marry her.. no one will prevent him..
Our neigbour is a Muslim Arabic guy but he has married a non-Muslim woman and they're happy together!
But some guys can't disobey their parents if they refuse the marriage.. and prefer their parents are satisfied more than anything else!... they tend to choose to marry the girl that his parents approves to marry her because some families don't accept their son to marry any girl, unless they are satisfied with her and think she's good for him! Even if she's a Muslim and Arabic!
But that doesn't mean that Arab guys are just fooling around.. not all of them... most of them (especially those who appreciate their religion) are respectful and treat the woman as a queen, especially if they see that the girl respects herself first...! ^^
Knowmeyourself is 100% right! My mom was born in Algeria and grew up there during most of her childhood. My mom is European (Italian). My mom knows the way Arab men think. Growing up the Algerian women were not even allowed to go to the cafes. I asked Knowmeyourself for her opinion on an Egyptian man that I befriended, and she gave the same exact advice she's giving you. As I think about what she said, I remembered he said, "I like to play games." I don't think so, I hate playing games. Without mentioning he comment about games Knowmeyourself said the same exact words (play games).
What this all comes down to is, do you mind being held to a double standard? Do you mind being controlled in a relationship?