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The problem is it seems paradoxical. I would personally pay for a date and also do that to indicate to a female friend I like her.
But then some women seem to act innocent and less sexual around guys who act chivalrous and who text them sweet things or display any form of long termness about them. E. g. long term friend or boyfriend material. It seems ridiculous that you almost get punished for being a good person.
Yet a brash friend or rowdy guy will have her being sexual quickly as if sex is cheap?
I wrote a take in response to this, can u check it out? www.girlsaskguys.com/.../a30526-why-are-women-only-sexual-with-guys-who-aren-t-long-term-material
Can u help me out? www.girlsaskguys.com/.../a30669-do-women-have-dirtier-sex-with-guys-who-don-t-care-about-them-what
If you EXPECT me to pay for you on the first date, I'll laugh, spit on your feet and walk out the door. I don't care if you look like 18-year old Pamela Anderson - if you expect me to pay, you must have an extraordinarily shitty personality.
If you want to be treated like an emancipated woman, act like one. You've got a job, you've got money, pay your own shit.
And we as women are happy for you to laugh and spit. Byeeeeee...
@Bubbles123X That's okay, there are also decent women out there. In fact, I've already found one. So yes, goodbye.
This one I can related to: Taking hours to reply with one word, or simply, replying with one word, both irritate me.
I prefer messaging a man who can hold a conversation. After all, when we don't see each other, texting and calling would be the only way to communicate, and if these indirect modes of communication are not maintained well, even if I see him, I won't feel connected.
A guy's inability to hold a daily conversation has been a big turn-off for me for some reason (not talking about intellectual or scholarly or scientific conversation yet). Or always texting "What's up?" And then nothing else follows after I reply, or "What you up to?" at the most but nothing else, and always the same.
more like Women, This is Why We Don't Want to Date You. your soo conceited, and most of these reasons is why guys dont keep the girl, guys want to be themselves with a girl, not be controlled and expected to be someone they are not.
Hmm conceited? I dont know about you, but i've been in a very happy relationship for the past 7 years with the man that I love- and we are very happy and engaged. He doesn't mind doing these things, difference between a man and a boy. A boy complains, a man takes pride in taking care of his woman and treating her right.
7 years and you didn't get married sooner, you dont seem happy to me. perhaps the pride is the problem because conceited and pride are traits of arrogance.
so what about the woman? do you treat him right and take care of him? or do you just sit around expect him to do everything and use him and call it love, like a lot of stuck-up snob women do because they think guys are for personal gain.
cut the shit, "men this is why we don't want to date you" coming from a girl that's about to get married, and been dating the same guy for 7 years? my guess is you're not happy, and you're cheating on him.
Honestly, from what you posted, you don't understand men & until such time that you do - DON'T DATE.
Oh good. I don't really have a problem with any of those. ;)
I have a problem with all of them.
I'll pay on the first date, but if the girl doesn't offer to split, it will probably be he last day. Because you are right, it does set the tone. If you are going to lay there and do nothing it pretty much speaks to the rest of the relationship, including the bedroom
The truth of the matter is we don't really want to date you either. We basically just want sex and dating is another hoop to jump through to get it. Why do you think sites like Eroticmonkey and Backpage are so popular and prostitution will never go away even after thousands of years of trying? It basically eliminates that hoop/obstacle.
@fuqthegovt There are a lot of guys who want more than just sex.
@funny_strange_man they are probably just saying that out of fear of being cut off from the source of it. I know since I did exactly that in my 20's, lied my butt off and told them what they wanted to hear (eventually got tired of the resulting drama when the truth came out). Probably the majority do that.
@fuqtheqovt I am one of those guys who actually does want more than just sex
@funny_strange_man then you are a vast minority among males.
Doesn't mean I'll change for this, I won't date anyone who thinks they're a gift from God and are entitled to things. I'll do what I feel is necessary in a relationship but won't abide by a rulebook
Most of this stuff isn't a problem but all of them combined it seems pretty petty
Sad really that. For all of this people put conditions on love. I can't love you because you are not rich, you want to be near me, you are not badboy enough or, you are too nice etc... Without ever knowing the heart of someone we create fence's drama and all sorts of reasons to not find happiness. We as humans have been trained to make it so difficult so difficult on fact that is also why we do not stay married always searching for the gold when we have a diamond already but do not see this. I am a human with flaws and shortcomings and with a heart that wants to see the best in others even though I don't always let others see the best in me. I believe in love and pray that everyone finds theirs.
"Men, This is Why We Don't Want to Date You"
And then
"This article is purely based on my personal experience/opinion and those of close female friends of mine."
Nope! I'm out.
Just kidding but right there is your very first mistake: Contradictions.
I've read also the comments and I wanted to thank you for these advices. Even if a lot of people, and also girls, they don't agree with you, it's how you see the subject and I thank you for sharing it.
I guess the likelihood of success is higher if we men pay. So if we really want to have a relationship with this girl, maybe it would be better to make an economic effort the first day. What I say the first day is: "I invite you, and next day you'll invite me".
I don't like to bother other people, so the other points make sense to me.
First one isn't it.
I do hate the Calls/ Messages one.
Pushy for sex isn't that often and most dudes don't do that
I've seen dudes that are clingy and I've seen ones that barely are
Agree with all except number 1. I wouldn't want to have a first date where either partner pays, because I'm not particularly rich nor do I like investing in things right off the bat. For I first date I'd do something like a walk in the park or some other free event to get to know you better before actually spending anything.
Everything on this list is pretty accurate except number one for me. Number one is petty af.
True 1 makes your ass get dump in the middle nowhere and you have to walk home by yourself.
I would suggest meeting men who were not so self absorbed and shallow, or too needy. Dating is a dicey game but if you keep finding guys that are like that , then maybe you are just attracting the shallow self absorbed jerks.
Oh wait, this is kind of a satire.
Still, be choosey. Looks aren't everything, though it helps.
I've had a girl agree to come over to my place for dinner, had a steak on the grill and lasagna made and ready to go and she never showed. Girls flake so much worse than guys it's not even funny. This must be some kind of joke. Girls leech 100% more of the time than guys based on what I've experienced and heard, so disgusting. Girls, that's why I don't want to date you. Let me see that you're not a total bitch first, then I'll give it a shot
Women are in general, disgusting.
@bobbyxx Yup, exactly. Fuck dating and relationships, I've heard sex is overrated anyways. I'm starting to become more and more apathetic as the days go by.
Sounds like someone who wants to be treated as a princess just because she has a vagina.
Please give us one good reason why we should pay on the first date?
Because women are whores... obviously. If a woman makes you exchange money, work, effort and hard time then it's a prostitute. If men only realised women used a different currency then men would be much liberated to just pay hard cash for an escort.
@Mrwoo99 Don't ever call women whores!! That is just uneducated stuff that bitter guys say.
Oh sorry, I meant to say a sexually libertated woman who uses her body, to manipulate, exchange value and get what she demands in terms of fucking her way to top.
Tell me what else can a women be besides that...
@Mrwoo99 She could not be with a bitter guy like you for example.
Lol calling women out on their bad behaviour and immoral bs does not not equal to me being bitter. The difference between me and these everyday beta manginas is that I won't conform or kneel down to these feminazis or this femcentric society and culture.
Why would I be bitter anyway? I've slept with women so If you think am just one of these virgins like Elliot Rogers then your sadly mistaken, ignorant and no better like the rest of these women who thinks MGTOW is for ugly loser.
5 things that tell whether you've dated a dumb girl.
If you hear these kind of whinings from gals, just run away from them. No amount of time worths that less to bother with them.
Especcially the first thing bugs me, for what reason I'm obligated to insist in order to pay? Not that I'm shying away from it, but I get severely irritated when some woman just expects me to pay automatically.
This is one of the reasons why 'we' dissapear.
No. The reasons should say you are not good looking, you don't have a six pack, you don't have enough money, you don't have a popular status, you don't have tattoos, you don't have a nice car, you are not a bad boy. Says most millennian women. *Drops the mic*