"A guy with a mediocre job or bumming it at home, even if he is smart, never fully applied himself. That makes him seem lazy, and laziness is a libido killer."
Alright, so when are you going to get a high-paying job yourself? It's incredibly unrealistic to expect a rich boyfriend, while you contribute almost nothing financially yourself. Guys can do better than you, and they will.
Wanting your man to be financially stable doesn't make you a gold digger. But if you expect your man to make all the money while you don't make any makes you a gold digger.
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I get where you're coming from but, I dont agree with the raising children part. Both my parents work and have worked full time while I was growing up. I went to a private middle school but other than that all my education came from public schools. While we weren't rich, I grew up just fine. I even had friends who lived in really really bad neighborhoods who's parents worked two jobs and didn't have a lot of disposable money. Yet their parents and mine have stayed together and we were raised to be good people and one of my friends works for the government and is one of the smartest people I know. I understand there's a sense of security with money but saying that if a mom doesn't stay home that they can't provide parental guidance. Just my two cents.
Guys are butt hurt because you only labeled the title as why girls can want a successful man. But we're not the ones constantly calling them gold diggers. Both people should work or find a situation that works for them.
Being successful and having money are two different things. People often confuse the two but in reality being successful doesn't mean you have money in the bank.
@puppylove94 Sure it does. It proves you're a racist, and I wouldn't doubt if you are some rich white sorority girl who never works, and only dates rich guys.
@BlackGirl23 I have a job and have been working full time since I was 16. I played softball and went to a small Mennonite college. I've dated a black guy and many friends of different races. I don't date guys because of money, I date them because of their determinations and success. as @akadatank44 mentioned, they don't always go hand in hand.
I would rather seek a man of the same socioeconomic status than a man who is better than me in some way. A great income disparity between husband and wife would not make a compatible marriage.
@Stuckintime, you just described a mid-life crisis. A Man can potentially have two families in his lifetime. Around age 40 he can get a divorce and marry a younger wife.
Ladies, if you want a wealthy Husband, be prepared to work harder to keep him happy as you get older.
Maybe you could have 2 family's could live together with 1 of the 4 adults taking on all the extra jobs cleaning cooking, driving kids , DIY etc while the other 3 work full time? Someone needs to do the other jobs though unless you have a lot of kids its not the work load of a full time job to do the cleaning cooking etc for 1 couple.
Notice how the only people who disagree with this are uneducated liberals who support Hillary Clinton, and are usually poor because they're lazy? I'm disgusted by the number of women who disagree with this take. Do you hoes want some lazy guy to bum around? I'm dating a 6'5, 350lb guy right now, and my friends think I'm weird because he's obese, and I'm not. However, he's intelligent, 25 years old, has a great job working in computers, and is mature! His downfall is obviously food. He'll eat some crazy 10,000 calories a day, which causes him to have the worst gas imaginable. Anyway I know these girls who date these lowlife losers because they're "hot" and then they complain about it. And I see these answers on this take and these stupid Feminists are idiots. They'll learn some day.
i disagree with this and im a trump supporter. just because a guy is broke and unemployed does not make him lazy or unambitious. its really not up to you if you have a job or not its up to the employer. all you can do is try.
Just assuming this is true (And I think this is another troll post), it looks like her boyfriend is on the road to a short life, if he keeps eating the way he does. Let's say his food addiction continues, and he weighs over 400lbs, that's quite heavy, even for being six feet, five inches tall.
So, you tell me what's worse: A man putting his health SEVERELY at risk, OR a man who struggles financially, but is able to take care of himself?
Just remember that a successful man will weigh up what you bring to a potential relationship and if your found wanting you will never get that diamond ring. Think about every time you see a very average looking woman with a high quality man and ask yourself what does she bring. Naturally a high quality guu wants a high quality woman long term and thats the mistake too many women make, they set the bar too high and can't measure up.
But high quality successful men don't really desire a partner who makes as much as them. They already make the money. That's why a lot of successful career women are single. High value men seem to pick women who are physically attractive to them and who make them feel good.
@lokilauren not entirely true. If a woman thinks she can land a successful high quality man on looks alone then she is dreaming. A high quality man will pump and dump a girl who has nothing but a hot body and pretty face. Remember good looks are fleating and have an expiry date in other words there's always a girl younger and better looking. A lot of successful career women are single because they put all their efforts into a career and neglect their love lives for many years until they start to hit the wall at thirty or forty and decide to find a husband and have babies but having such high standards no ordinary man is acceptable to them and the high quality men that are kind get younger hotter versions of them. Remember even a rich high quality guy who dumps his wife and mother of his children for a blonde bimbo airhead during a midlife crisis will still treat and respect his ex wife more than his new girlfriend.
I said "and who makes them feel good". A combination of personality and looks. High quality men don't concern themselves with how much money she makes, they just want to know she's independent or invested in something other than the relationship. So basically, I'm trying to say your argument that a high value man wants to date a woman on his level of income earning potential is invalid. Look at all of the top men in the fields of sports and entertainment. Their wives, though not completely dependent on them, earn significantly less. The traits that make a man high value and a woman high value are different. And no, I'm not saying that a man will stick with a woman who he finds beautiful for a long time.
@lokilauren A successful high calibre man will look at a relationship as a long term investment. Good looks and personality will certainly help but there are many qualities he will look for and will expect hos investment to pay off. The independent woman thing is relatively new and is really a buzzword that many women use to describe themselves as "empowered" when the real truth is most women these days though "independent" are encapable of taking care of themselves or performing basic life skills. My wife when I meet her four years ago was very pretty, capable and practical and these among other qualities made her a good long term investment. Your right about that men and women are attracted to different qualities in each other. I merely remarked in my that if you want a girl wants a high quality man she needs to bring something to the table.
Just another "what can a man do for me? I'm the best I deserve the absolute best, he better meet all my standards or he is a waste of my time" article. Do any of you women see how narcissistic you are. Or are you completely oblivious to it. Relationships are a two way street. Both have to work together and contribute financially and make things worse. If you can't stick with a guy when he's going through struggles and encourage him through it, that just shows you're the type that won't stick it out through thick and thin. When the going gets rough you bail.
If she is financially independent herself I don't see anything wrong with her wanting a partner who is the same? When you bring kids into the equation you have to admit they are expensive.
if she is. Marriage is a two way street. the days of men being the sole breadwinner are dying. If she works hard as well and is willing to put money toward all these desires then it's justified. If she wants to do very little and expects the guy to provide all of the financial resources that's a different story. Rejecting a guy on a second date because he has is compatible because he is struggling to find a good paying job in this sh*t economy is a bit harsh. If he isn't willing to get a job that's different story but if he's trying to find a job and has long term prospects why not help him through it?
What irritates me the most about guys answering this question is that they're trying to support an alternate argument that the original poster proposed. What she is saying, is that, NO she is not trying to sit back and let the guy pay for everything. YES, she will herself have a stable job and work to financially support the family as well. BUT let's say for example that she earns 70k+ a year, and wants a partner who makes around that or more rather than someone who is working 30k a year? HOW does that make a woman a gold digger? MIND YOU, she is not saying money is more valuable than love, or that financial stability is the ONLY important thing in a relationship. Geez guys, answer this damn scenario and stop trying to find ways to justify why women should be happy dating a guy from a lower income bracket when she herself is making a fairly decent salary.
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Exactly! I'm currently single and financially independent. I pay for my own rent+bills now. I'm not looking for a fuck buddy. I'm looking for a husband and the potential father of my future kids. Financial security is a must when you're trying to raise a family. I don't understand why some naive women refuse to acknowledge that and end up with broke guys. There is also nothing wrong with a traditional woman expecting the guy to be a sole bread winner as long as she takes full responsibility of all the household chores.
And when your husband looses his job and you guys face serious financial difficulty you will divorce him. Don't believe me? just look at the divorce stats from the "mancession".
If your looking for financial stability that is EASY to find and 100% reasonable. Your looking for a wallet, not a man, hence gold digger. Listing off a bunch of reasons why money can be nice to have does not somehow make you less of a gold digger.
"Not being financially stressed out makes for a better mommy and family dynamic."
totally agree, because we never hear about dyfuctional wealth families. never ever. and the mommies are especially great in those situations. the whole 10 minutes they take their kids of the nannies hands are real quality time that'll turn those kids into upstanding members of society someday. hmm.. ok. ;)
I actually notice it just the opposite. THE most dysfunctional families are wealthy families. If anything, men in poverty are more likely to commit, since they have less opportunities in the first place.
@thewanderingme I was thinking the same thing. I know several wealthy families where the parents basically never mingle with their kids, or everyone is a fighting mess. This MyTake Owner is probably a troll anyway.
The moment that a woman needs to rely on a man for all this: you are a gold digger. That said, I agree with you. But many men I know are idiots in business that got there because of rich mommy and daddy. I never judge a man by his money. I came from a poor background and am working like a bitch to get out of it. I even came from a 3rd world country and worked my way into a first world country. That's an achievement in itself for me. Oh... and I will never commit!!
The idea that I get from you is that you don't have patience to fight side by side with someone to get the life you wish, you fear too much the unknown, and you just jump into a boat if the trip is short.
It's ok, but what's the problem here? Is that you are more likely to force yourself believing you are in love, when you meet guys that apparently are solid. You might trick yourself here.
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This is so disgusting, no wonder why men are pulling away from marriage and women. Girls like you make me sick. Please go get a life and stop spreading BS, its really hurting everyone
I just LOL at chicks like you unless they're a 10/10. Rich guys will always pick the hottest gold digger they can get. So if they can get a gold digger who is hotter than you... why would they pick you? Certainly not for your beautiful personality, because gold diggers always have ugly personalities.
Oh and yeah you ARE a gold digger. It doesn't matter what bullshit reasons you come up with to justify it.
The main reason why guys don't like women that ONLY go for guys that are "fonancially secure" is because even if we have money, if we lose our job somehow, then we get to enjoy a nasty divorce and her trying to take the kids away and get support. If there was a law that made it so men with money will provide no support whatsoever after a divorce, we keep all of our stuff, and the MAN keeps the kids, then it would be fine. :)
Lots of "ifs" there. The idea that men who are financially secure are afraid of marriage because of divorces sounds far-fetched. Usually when two people enter a marriage, they're thinking of a relationship that is lifelong and thought of breaking up isn't even on the table. Unless of course, there is a prenup.
@WillowTree I'd rather never be married again. I'd be in a LTR, but not marriage because of my last experience. (I won't discuss details of it, but it was a bad experience)
I would add however that we should not be morons who pursue only those things. In which case, it becomes shallow, say if a man is only with a woman because she is hot and a woman with a man only because he is wealthy. That is a recipe for disaster and both of them deserve whatever consequences they suffer. Ideally you want someone hot or wealthy whom you are compatible with.
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"Gold-diggers" is an hypocritical byname for "prostitutes".
Hypocritical prostitutes who love comfort, and wanna work on one man only for some years.
Other women can look for a "financially stable man" because they love not to do a job.
Others... may have a personality that inclines to being the old-fashioned house runner and children raiser.
Other can be just normal average minded people.
Certainly, if they utter the word "love" the kindest response that is coming from me is a sound grin.
"He is more likely to put a ring on your finger, want to start a family and pay for your dates."
Yeah sorry, this last statement DEFINITELY makes you a gold digger. Pay for your own stuff.
"A guy with a mediocre job or bumming it at home, even if he is smart, never fully applied himself. That makes him seem lazy, and laziness is a libido killer."
Alright, so when are you going to get a high-paying job yourself? It's incredibly unrealistic to expect a rich boyfriend, while you contribute almost nothing financially yourself. Guys can do better than you, and they will.
any guy with anything on the ball would not take a 2nd look at her.
Wanting your man to be financially stable doesn't make you a gold digger. But if you expect your man to make all the money while you don't make any makes you a gold digger.
I get where you're coming from but, I dont agree with the raising children part. Both my parents work and have worked full time while I was growing up. I went to a private middle school but other than that all my education came from public schools. While we weren't rich, I grew up just fine. I even had friends who lived in really really bad neighborhoods who's parents worked two jobs and didn't have a lot of disposable money. Yet their parents and mine have stayed together and we were raised to be good people and one of my friends works for the government and is one of the smartest people I know. I understand there's a sense of security with money but saying that if a mom doesn't stay home that they can't provide parental guidance. Just my two cents.
Good take.
Guys are butt hurt because you only labeled the title as why girls can want a successful man. But we're not the ones constantly calling them gold diggers. Both people should work or find a situation that works for them.
Success will always be attractive though
"Success will always be attractive though"
So do attractive faces xD
@YourFutureEx an attractive face Is attractive too, yes.
But I put more of an emphasis on personality
Being successful and having money are two different things. People often confuse the two but in reality being successful doesn't mean you have money in the bank.
@akadatank44 you are correct. those guys down voting don't think there's a difference apparently lol. I'm just a gold digging whore.
The only girls who are gold diggers (like this mytake owner) are rich white sorority girls who like Donald Trump lol.
@BlackGirl23 I like Donald trump. That has nothing to do with anything
@puppylove94 Sure it does. It proves you're a racist, and I wouldn't doubt if you are some rich white sorority girl who never works, and only dates rich guys.
@BlackGirl23 I have a job and have been working full time since I was 16. I played softball and went to a small Mennonite college. I've dated a black guy and many friends of different races. I don't date guys because of money, I date them because of their determinations and success. as @akadatank44 mentioned, they don't always go hand in hand.
@BlackGirl23 im for trump and i grew up poor. im a native American and a nuclear chemist. it seems that you're the racist black girl
@dudeman haha agreed. Thanks 😊
I would rather seek a man of the same socioeconomic status than a man who is better than me in some way. A great income disparity between husband and wife would not make a compatible marriage.
A man who makes a lot more would dump her when she gets old and trade her in for a younger wife. That's what Trump does.
@Stuckintime, you just described a mid-life crisis. A Man can potentially have two families in his lifetime. Around age 40 he can get a divorce and marry a younger wife.
Ladies, if you want a wealthy Husband, be prepared to work harder to keep him happy as you get older.
This deserves a MHO all the girls who are downvoting any girl on this question.. Are all gold diggers :-D
Maybe you could have 2 family's could live together with 1 of the 4 adults taking on all the extra jobs cleaning cooking, driving kids , DIY etc while the other 3 work full time?
Someone needs to do the other jobs though unless you have a lot of kids its not the work load of a full time job to do the cleaning cooking etc for 1 couple.
Notice how the only people who disagree with this are uneducated liberals who support Hillary Clinton, and are usually poor because they're lazy? I'm disgusted by the number of women who disagree with this take. Do you hoes want some lazy guy to bum around? I'm dating a 6'5, 350lb guy right now, and my friends think I'm weird because he's obese, and I'm not. However, he's intelligent, 25 years old, has a great job working in computers, and is mature! His downfall is obviously food. He'll eat some crazy 10,000 calories a day, which causes him to have the worst gas imaginable. Anyway I know these girls who date these lowlife losers because they're "hot" and then they complain about it. And I see these answers on this take and these stupid Feminists are idiots. They'll learn some day.
you see guys it all depends on the girl because every girl has different preference. its impossible every girl likes the same type of guy
i disagree with this and im a trump supporter. just because a guy is broke and unemployed does not make him lazy or unambitious. its really not up to you if you have a job or not its up to the employer. all you can do is try.
Just assuming this is true (And I think this is another troll post), it looks like her boyfriend is on the road to a short life, if he keeps eating the way he does. Let's say his food addiction continues, and he weighs over 400lbs, that's quite heavy, even for being six feet, five inches tall.
So, you tell me what's worse: A man putting his health SEVERELY at risk, OR a man who struggles financially, but is able to take care of himself?
Just remember that a successful man will weigh up what you bring to a potential relationship and if your found wanting you will never get that diamond ring. Think about every time you see a very average looking woman with a high quality man and ask yourself what does she bring. Naturally a high quality guu wants a high quality woman long term and thats the mistake too many women make, they set the bar too high and can't measure up.
But high quality successful men don't really desire a partner who makes as much as them. They already make the money. That's why a lot of successful career women are single. High value men seem to pick women who are physically attractive to them and who make them feel good.
@lokilauren not entirely true. If a woman thinks she can land a successful high quality man on looks alone then she is dreaming. A high quality man will pump and dump a girl who has nothing but a hot body and pretty face. Remember good looks are fleating and have an expiry date in other words there's always a girl younger and better looking. A lot of successful career women are single because they put all their efforts into a career and neglect their love lives for many years until they start to hit the wall at thirty or forty and decide to find a husband and have babies but having such high standards no ordinary man is acceptable to them and the high quality men that are kind get younger hotter versions of them. Remember even a rich high quality guy who dumps his wife and mother of his children for a blonde bimbo airhead during a midlife crisis will still treat and respect his ex wife more than his new girlfriend.
I said "and who makes them feel good". A combination of personality and looks. High quality men don't concern themselves with how much money she makes, they just want to know she's independent or invested in something other than the relationship. So basically, I'm trying to say your argument that a high value man wants to date a woman on his level of income earning potential is invalid. Look at all of the top men in the fields of sports and entertainment. Their wives, though not completely dependent on them, earn significantly less. The traits that make a man high value and a woman high value are different. And no, I'm not saying that a man will stick with a woman who he finds beautiful for a long time.
@lokilauren A successful high calibre man will look at a relationship as a long term investment. Good looks and personality will certainly help but there are many qualities he will look for and will expect hos investment to pay off. The independent woman thing is relatively new and is really a buzzword that many women use to describe themselves as "empowered" when the real truth is most women these days though "independent" are encapable of taking care of themselves or performing basic life skills.
My wife when I meet her four years ago was very pretty, capable and practical and these among other qualities made her a good long term investment. Your right about that men and women are attracted to different qualities in each other. I merely remarked in my that if you want a girl wants a high quality man she needs to bring something to the table.
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You want guys who can pay for your stuff. If that financially stable guy refused to pay for your dates, you'd be out of there.
Just another "what can a man do for me? I'm the best I deserve the absolute best, he better meet all my standards or he is a waste of my time" article. Do any of you women see how narcissistic you are. Or are you completely oblivious to it. Relationships are a two way street. Both have to work together and contribute financially and make things worse. If you can't stick with a guy when he's going through struggles and encourage him through it, that just shows you're the type that won't stick it out through thick and thin. When the going gets rough you bail.
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If she is financially independent herself I don't see anything wrong with her wanting a partner who is the same? When you bring kids into the equation you have to admit they are expensive.
if she is. Marriage is a two way street. the days of men being the sole breadwinner are dying. If she works hard as well and is willing to put money toward all these desires then it's justified. If she wants to do very little and expects the guy to provide all of the financial resources that's a different story. Rejecting a guy on a second date because he has is compatible because he is struggling to find a good paying job in this sh*t economy is a bit harsh. If he isn't willing to get a job that's different story but if he's trying to find a job and has long term prospects why not help him through it?
NO ONE IS ASKING YOU TO BE THE SOLE BREADWINNER?
Angry much? haha. wow you completed misinterpreted what I said and read that in the way you wanted read it.
What irritates me the most about guys answering this question is that they're trying to support an alternate argument that the original poster proposed.
What she is saying, is that, NO she is not trying to sit back and let the guy pay for everything.
YES, she will herself have a stable job and work to financially support the family as well.
BUT let's say for example that she earns 70k+ a year, and wants a partner who makes around that or more rather than someone who is working 30k a year?
HOW does that make a woman a gold digger? MIND YOU, she is not saying money is more valuable than love, or that financial stability is the ONLY important thing in a relationship. Geez guys, answer this damn scenario and stop trying to find ways to justify why women should be happy dating a guy from a lower income bracket when she herself is making a fairly decent salary.
Exactly! I'm currently single and financially independent. I pay for my own rent+bills now. I'm not looking for a fuck buddy. I'm looking for a husband and the potential father of my future kids. Financial security is a must when you're trying to raise a family. I don't understand why some naive women refuse to acknowledge that and end up with broke guys. There is also nothing wrong with a traditional woman expecting the guy to be a sole bread winner as long as she takes full responsibility of all the household chores.
You realize 70k is way above average right
more sexism from myTakeOwner- men have just as much right to be the homemaker.
god i hate sexism.
And when your husband looses his job and you guys face serious financial difficulty you will divorce him. Don't believe me? just look at the divorce stats from the "mancession".
If your looking for financial stability that is EASY to find and 100% reasonable. Your looking for a wallet, not a man, hence gold digger. Listing off a bunch of reasons why money can be nice to have does not somehow make you less of a gold digger.
"Not being financially stressed out makes for a better mommy and family dynamic."
totally agree, because we never hear about dyfuctional wealth families. never ever. and the mommies are especially great in those situations. the whole 10 minutes they take their kids of the nannies hands are real quality time that'll turn those kids into upstanding members of society someday. hmm.. ok. ;)
true men who make better money are more likely to commit, but their also much more likely to cheat, a lot.
I actually notice it just the opposite. THE most dysfunctional families are wealthy families. If anything, men in poverty are more likely to commit, since they have less opportunities in the first place.
@BlackGirl23 nice to see you recognize sarcasm well. ;)
@thewanderingme I was thinking the same thing. I know several wealthy families where the parents basically never mingle with their kids, or everyone is a fighting mess. This MyTake Owner is probably a troll anyway.
@BlackGirl23 indeed... money fucks up priorities.
The moment that a woman needs to rely on a man for all this: you are a gold digger. That said, I agree with you. But many men I know are idiots in business that got there because of rich mommy and daddy. I never judge a man by his money. I came from a poor background and am working like a bitch to get out of it. I even came from a 3rd world country and worked my way into a first world country. That's an achievement in itself for me. Oh... and I will never commit!!
The idea that I get from you is that you don't have patience to fight side by side with someone to get the life you wish, you fear too much the unknown, and you just jump into a boat if the trip is short.
It's ok, but what's the problem here? Is that you are more likely to force yourself believing you are in love, when you meet guys that apparently are solid. You might trick yourself here.
This is so disgusting, no wonder why men are pulling away from marriage and women. Girls like you make me sick. Please go get a life and stop spreading BS, its really hurting everyone
Nice to meet you blue anon.
oh yea right.
Unfortunately, the young women generation these days are gold diggers.
Oh look. A pick me chick lol
I just LOL at chicks like you unless they're a 10/10. Rich guys will always pick the hottest gold digger they can get. So if they can get a gold digger who is hotter than you... why would they pick you? Certainly not for your beautiful personality, because gold diggers always have ugly personalities.
Oh and yeah you ARE a gold digger. It doesn't matter what bullshit reasons you come up with to justify it.
The main reason why guys don't like women that ONLY go for guys that are "fonancially secure" is because even if we have money, if we lose our job somehow, then we get to enjoy a nasty divorce and her trying to take the kids away and get support.
If there was a law that made it so men with money will provide no support whatsoever after a divorce, we keep all of our stuff, and the MAN keeps the kids, then it would be fine. :)
Lots of "ifs" there. The idea that men who are financially secure are afraid of marriage because of divorces sounds far-fetched. Usually when two people enter a marriage, they're thinking of a relationship that is lifelong and thought of breaking up isn't even on the table. Unless of course, there is a prenup.
@WillowTree I'd rather never be married again. I'd be in a LTR, but not marriage because of my last experience. (I won't discuss details of it, but it was a bad experience)
I'm sorry you had a bad experience. I can't imagine. Not all relationships end up that way though.
"He had a worthless liberal arts degree"
Wow I wouldn't wanna date you either with an attitude like that
but you'd date me nah :P
@This_is_my_username hells yeah get over here lol
I agree. Just as I believe that men who seek young, athletic, physically attractive women are not perverts or players.
JRICHARDS1996, AWESOME
I agree. You're allowed to be attracted to those things.
I would add however that we should not be morons who pursue only those things. In which case, it becomes shallow, say if a man is only with a woman because she is hot and a woman with a man only because he is wealthy. That is a recipe for disaster and both of them deserve whatever consequences they suffer. Ideally you want someone hot or wealthy whom you are compatible with.
compatibility is important to me too.