If you are a biological man dating another biological man, then you are in a gay relationship. It is still two men regardless of how badly one of those men wants to be a woman. Your gender is determined by your X/Y chromosome, and you cannot switch from either to the other. Whatever difference you believe there is between sex and gender is irrelevant. People who want to reproduce will only care about whether you're biologically a male or female. Biology, facts, and real life do not care what gender you have ascribed to yourself. You do not have the power to place yourself into a foreign gender's roster. The ONLY deciding factor is your father's sperm.
These are simply the facts. I don't hate anyone for believing they were born the wrong gender. I will get along with you just fine as long as you don't dictate that I refer to you in accordance to a belief to which I am not subscribed. If you are a male, I will refer to you as a male, because that's what you are whether you accept it or not.
No, because if they possess all the feminine traits that straight men find attractive, and no longer have a penis then I can't call someone who is having sex with them gay because they are attracted to someone who looks exactly like a woman. I might be wrong because I am not that familiar with the trans community and I am unsure how successful those transformations are, and does all the hormones they take have any effect on pheromones and what kind of subliminal signal ar they sending. Does the male partner pick up pheromones of a man or a woman. If biologically they can very well recognize it's a man more than it's a woman, than yes, they are gay.
Despite we consider them women or not, I don't think it's gay, because when a man like a transexual women they are attracted because they look like women and because they perceive femenine traits, not because of their masculine traits, which are blocked or hidden under hormonal treatments, surgery and so and if done well is almost impossible to notice. So no gay.
However if the trans still got a penis and the other person is aware of that and ok with it, we could consider this person bisexual, as it would be obvious this person likes both masculine and femenine traits, even at the same time.
If they still have penis, then yes. If they've transitioned fully then I don't think the man they're having sex with will know they're trans. It doesn't hurt anyone if they don't know about it.
And since you're asking if its gay or not, do you think a gay man is going to attracted to a trans woman? A woman who was a man but now no one can tell... Would a gay man be attracted to her? If yes, then its gay.
It could hurt someone if they didn't know about it and were contemplating having children with you. It could also be dicey if someone's former sexual status is important to the person they're dating. Being honest is the best policy in a longterm dating situation.
Many people think of being gay or straight based solely on genitalia. I think in this situation Men are attracted to the female beauty aspect of the person. They could care less about anything else.
If you were talking about just passing people on the street and finding them attractive, I would agree with this statement. But when dating or sex is involved, I believe the other person's genitals is a very relevant subject.
I wouldn't say it's gay. Well, maybe it is if she has a penis. I mean, what heterosexual man wants to have sex with a cock? But if she has done the full medical transition, looks like a woman and acts like a women, then the person dating her obviously likes women as opposed to men. Therefore, he is not gay. That being said, he must not have any experience with or care much about having sex with women because a trans woman's vagina is basically a dry hole. I can't imagine it even approximating the experience of sex with a true, lusty, juicy woman. The sad reality is, in the end, trans women are not real women.
Attraction does not define sexuality. A guy can find himself attracted to anyone or anything, but its who he engages with sexually that defines his sexuality. For instance, just because I find females other than my wife attractive, that does not make me a polygamist so long as I’ve only engaged sexually with my wife. Likewise, all these people that argue that it’s “not gay” to have sex with someone born male as long as he presents himself in an attractively feminine form are missing the point here; or can a monogamist say “I’m not polygamistic, because the woman I cheated with reminded me a lot of my wife!”? It’s all quite silly.
I feel like it depends. I wouldn't call it gay since they are still attracted to female features and transwoman do undergo surgery to have more female features. However, if they do not have a vagina, that could easily make the guy pansexual since the guy knows it isn't a real woman and straight guys love vaginas and not penises lol I didn't say bisexual because since I'm bisexual myself, I personally am not attracted to someone who had multiple surgeries to be another gender.
And the thing is, the majority of trans still have a bit of male features. No matter how many surgeries they've gone through, you can still tell it used to be a man back in the day lol so I don't know. But honestly, people can date whoever they want. I even know this guy who is dating this other guy, even having sex with him and he doesn't even consider himself gay 🤷🏽 so to each their own.
If you were born a male, you're male. That's it. Surgery can't turn me in to a man anymore than it can turn you into a girl. You may share appearance with them, but that's only skin deep. So, accepting that, if you have sex with a "trans" girl, you're actually just having sex with a man. So yes, that's a homosexual act, which makes you gay.
Yes it is. I know this is the unpopular opinion but you either get born a man or a woman, a boy or a girl, and you have to learn to love an accept yourself for who you are.
A man who cuts his penis off and wears a dress isn't a woman - they are a crossdressing man who lopped of their penis. A gay relationship is when two men are involved sexually and romantically. Dating a crossdressing man who chopped his penis off is still a gay relationship. Nothing wrong with being gay - it just is.
It's gay. People who are saying otherwise are clowning themselves.
In some countries, men get castrated for raping women. Why am I bringing this up? Because when you castrate a man, he has no dick. When a man get's a "sex change" they also lose their dick. You are essentially fucking a man who got their dick castrated. How is that not gay?
Getting a sex change doesn't really make you a new gender. That is why women who turn into men can still have kids. All a "sex change" is, is a removal or addition of genitalia.
If you get a DNA test, you will still register as your sex from birth. Men have XY chromosomes and women have XX chromosomes. You will still have your vaginal organs if you are a female and as a male you will still have a prostate.
You can't REALLY change your sex.
So... yes... you are gay if you are knowingly sleeping with someone who got a "sex change".
No, because gay men aren’t just attracted to male anatomy. They want to have relationships with men- they’re attracted to masculine personalities. Trans woman have male anatomy and feminine personalities. A guy dating a trans woman could be straight if she’s post-op or he loves her for her personality and can overlook her masculine appearance. He might also be bisexual or pansexual.
Yeah it’s gay. I also don’t see why that is even remotely controversial especially since we are supposed to be accepting of gay and transsexual individuals.
The controversy really is only around a few guys that think they’re straight (but aren’t) and are hurt think of themselves as guy. Almost like they are trying to preserve their self image of straightness because they think being gay is some kind of insult.
Basically, yes. They're still the same sex, regardless what they "identify" as, or what "transformations" they underwent. Just like when wearing a mask does not make you any different underneath, being transgender does not actually change anything more than a societal fabricated perception.
Tbh, this whole it's gay to do this, that and the other. It's stupid. If you fancy someone whether it's a straight or gay relationship so fucking what? Sexuality isn't a set thing for a lot of people and for some people it changes. Some straight guys love trans women but it doesn't take away the fact that they are attracted sexually to Cis Women. I use to call myself bisexual but fuck labels. :) I'll be with who makes me happy at the time, whether he is a guy, she is a trans woman or she is a Cis woman.
Well it depends if they are post op or pre op, I would say that there at least pansexual if they are sleeping with a pre op trans women. Its a complicated thing but I would say who cares, if your a guy who sleeps with a transwomen and doesn't consider himself gay cool who cares.
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People are attracted to all sorts. Some like women with all the biological parts of women. Some are fine with some mixture of male and female parts. The same would be true about stereotypical male and female behavior. You can say the same about women who're attracted to transexual men. There is a spectrum of exterior sexual looks, behavior. Maybe people who aren't attracted to the biological norm are bisexual or gay or transsexual. What's nice is there's someone for everyone.
i have nothing wrong with two people having sex consensually but here is why it's gay. just because something has a hole doesn't mean you get to have sex with it. beastiality is illegal but it happens because the people are mentally ill. i can tolerate homos but not animal fuckers. there is nothing wrong with being curious with a cantaloupe because you know exactly what you're doing. and you know exactly what you're doing when you fuck a transexual.
I don't know. It depends. A guy who is open to dating trans and also may be open to certain men is gay/bi.
A guy who just dates girls and is only open to dating really feminine trans girls (even a trans girl that looks more masculine turns him off) is probably straight.
I'm transgender and I love going out as female. It would make me feel more comfortable to have the op. But no matter what I do feel down I'm am make. It's like getting a orange and putting a skin of a apple on it. Does it make the orange a apple. No because as soon as you bit into it you see it's not what it says on the tin. It's a shake they cannot infect something into you and like magic you change completely into a woman , Gene home and all. Maybe one day but I don't think in my life time...
Its not gay even if they have a penis. Gay men don't date or find trans women attractive, they only find other men attractive. You're only gay if you are sexually attracted to men. As trans women aesthetically look like women anyone dating them wouldn't be gay.
You might call them bisexual - but like I said if they don't find other men attractive it might not completely describe them either.
If having sex with transsexual people doesn't make you gay. Then having sex with 10 year old girls who identify as 34 year olds doesn't make you a pedophile.
Anybody dating/sexing a tranny is gay/lez in my opinion UNLESS you didn't know they had a sex change. But the moment you find out, if u keep pursuing them, you gay bra
I've said this in another post, but I'll mention here again: Being gay or straight is based on attraction. You don't actually have to have sex, kiss, or even hold hands to be attracted. You can be gay or straight by just seeing someone and feeling an attraction. Using that information I have to lean toward it's not gay to be a guy who is with a transwoman if she is to your senses a woman. Also want to point out that if you believe being with a trans girl makes a guy gay or bi, all it takes is for one trans girl to fool you and cause you to be attracted, for the rest of your life, by your own standards, you are gay or bi. Good luck. They're getting better at enhancements of this nature all the time.
transwomen are not women ! I am a woman with a woman's body ! Sex is between a male with a penis and a woman with a vagina ! Which is the way God intended it ! Thanks
He might be. But being gay (for a man) means your primary sexual attraction is to other men. So it would be unlikely he would be attracted to a trans woman, who presumably looks and acts like a woman. So in general, no. Especially if he usually dates "normal" women.
Chicks with dicks has kinky written all over it but it's not gay because there is not feelings between 2 males yes they are both men bit one is either fucked up on designer drugs or something line that it always seems like a purely sexual relationship when you include the dress up game
No. You're still being attracted to a woman's face. Sure she may have or may have had a penis. But who cares? If you like her, you like her and if she had a man's body at a certain point in her life, she's now a woman and that's what matters
People are forgetting something central to this question: gay men don't date trans-women. Period. So how does such dating make a man gay? I think people could afford to get to know some gay men so they can stop making so many assumptions about them.
Nah. It's a whole other thing. Bi perhaps? Maybe it's a mostly straight dude who is attracted to funbags and other feminine qualities but also fantasizes about hard penis and gets everything rolled into one person.
I have respect for transgenders and one of my best friends is actually transgender. In my opinion it would make you gay because that person was born a male.
A dude is a dude regardless of how many barbie dolls he plays with. Make believe and imaginary friends might be fine when you’re 5, but once you become an adult they usually drug you and throw you in a padded room when you do it.
It's not about opinions. It's about science. Straight men don't date pre-op or post-op transwomen. Let's see one of these "straight men" have a child with a post-op transwoman. Also there is no such thing as a sex change, even doctors say this. Hormones and getting your penis cut off doesn't change your sex.
@ronaldo75 sorry, I didn't realize you were that transphobic. Like bro first of all it's girlsaskguys as said 'GirlsAskGuys is your social community where girls and guys can ask questions and share their opinions to help better understand each other then find answers.' It's okay if you don't date Trans women but they are some straight men who do because to them and to the women they're considered a WOMEN and still you're not the one who's allowed to tell transgender people their sex. If they feel like a woman and want to become one let them be.
I'm not transphobic - you calling me transphobic just shows you have no argument. I've had multiple trans friends try to commit suicide because they dont have money for operations. A few even prostituted for it and you know how I helped them? By telling them to get therapy to help them cope with who they are and accepting themselves even though they couldn't afford surgery.
Transphobic? Get the fuck over yourself. 40% of transwomen especially attempt suicide even after post-op because you can get all the surgury you want , between the drugs and cocktail of hormones they take and the fact that they never pass 100% it drives them insane.
@ronaldo75 right basically telling them it's wrong for them to be transgender and how does that get them out of their misery if just being told to not be who they want be.
Let me ask you a question. Have you stayed up all night, on a work night and have had to talk a person who drunk as hell into not cutting their own wrists and scared to death that if you make one quick or false move they will stab you just the same? Well I have, people who feel they are in the "wrong body" are living in HELL and it's a torture i've seen one too many time. So don't sit there and call me a transphobe when you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about.
THese people are SUFFERING and forcing the world to play make believe isn't going to make their lives any easier.
@tyber1 some have had surgery, so it's not a problem. Others still have it so I would say that if a person dates a trans woman because she still has the penis, maybe he's bi. If a person dates a trans woman besides her having a penis (so the person takes the whole package yet doesn't really like that element) he's straight. I guess if he sees the woman as the real woman she is, he's straight, if he sees the woman as a someone with both male and female aspects and likes her for that thought, he might be bi
Trans women are not women, they feel like they're women. I acknowledge their feelings and the distress they cause, but I do not consider someone who was born with unambiguously male sexual organs to be female. They're an anomaly, a deviation from what is biologically natural and healthy. Their brain has developed in a way that more closely resembles a female brain but the majority of their anatomy has male characteristics and lets be honest about what is happening here, the hormones and cosmetic surgeries are meant to defy and cover up reality and we are all expected to go along and pretend that isn't what is happening because their natural state is one that causes significant psychological distress.
Just because someone's reality is unpleasant does not mean that I have to accept a lie as factual to keep them happy. If you raise someone who is left handed as if they were right handed, you might convince people including them but it still doesn't make it true. I'm never gonna pretend someone who is biologically male in almost every way is female, even if it would make it easier for them to cope.
I find it somewhat ironic that the LGBT movement advocates such radically different treatment for their Trans members than the rest of the movement. We are supposed to accept gays as they are (which I do). They are also a biological anomoly, but we embrace them for who they are and we encourage self acceptance. But for Trans people, we must accept that the exact opposite treatment is the only course of action. Because it is painful (as are many disorders and anomolies) we are supposed to deny reality and encourage them to change themselves and if you say you accept them as they are naturally then you're treated like a bigot. What Trans people need, more than people encouraging cosmetic mutilation and a lifetime of artificial hormone therapy, is exactly the same thing that many people with physical, emotional or mental disorders need: therapy.
Im all for gay rights and the lifestyle. However I am going to say in MY opinion, a man is born a man.. and a women is born a women. There for no matter the hormones or surgical procedures, what your born as.. is what it is.
Um yes because a trans guy is never a biological woman.
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if it doesn't say "FEMALE" in their birth certificate, it ain't a woman if it says "MALE" in their birth certificate, it is a man if they got dick, it ain't a woman
It depends how both partners identify themselves and their partners - So you are presumably talking straight identify guy with a trans straight identifying girl, to me they are straight.
If the man said he isn't gay but has been or is with a tyranny. Then he means he is not gay. Cause he wouldn't be with another dude.. and with the tranny well the tranny is exposing on the way as a female so the guy really isn't gay.. the sex just must be very enjoying for him that's all
It's not really gay, I would even go as far as saying traps aren't gay, since for the guys the selling point is that they look like a girl, usually, unless they go for the fact that they have a peepee, that's pretty gay
Its not gay if you dont know. But tbh, I have been in enough pussy, to know what it should look and feel like. I feel like they can only trick drunk or inexperienced guys. Its gay if you purposely seek them out, know, and do it anyways
@name_is_eric I do. I have a friend that went through this, even tho for him was female to male. He was a male even before the tranddition, the only difference now is that now his body reflects that.
Ok so if a trans women had had surgery she is a woman. I am bi but would not have a problem with it. But I understand fully that's straight man would have some feels about it.
I seriously don't understand why almost nobody thinks to specify whether the trans person has had surgery or how much surgery they've had. I mean When you use porn, do you search for "hottie with big boobs" or "hottie who identifies as woman?"
A hot one would make an excellent “wing girl” other chicks judge you based on your “girlfriend” if she's hot you a prize end the night with a gang bang if the trans leaves a little jizz on your chin thats the price you pay
This done not mean that you shouldn’t be respectful of trans men and women and even use the preferred gender pronoun out of respect. But if two dicks are involved in the lovemaking it is gay sex that is all I am saying
There is no such things as a transsexual because you're either male or female. Deleting your private area doesn't make you the opposite sex and neither does artificially applying the organs of the other sex.
the label "woman" is not a label you can assign to yourself, cause you'd like that. the label woman is given to you by your set of chromosomes. if there's an y chromosome, you're not a woman. yeah you can wish hard to be one and you can change and modify your body so people think you are one but you won't be one. that's just something you have to come to terms with.
Just cuz you cut a guy's dick off doesn't make him a woman. And vice-versa. An addadictomy doesn't make her a man. This whole gender choice thing is just a fad.
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