You mean "any woman". And yes, any woman can get laid, of course, there's whole societal coercion to allow undeserving women the right to sex and breeding, but that's exactly my point.
You have so many single mom's because women choose very badly. And don't learn very quickly your stubbornness is your downfall. You're usually 1 or 2 kids in before you accept you made a bad choice. As for older women getting trashed on here there might be some of that. But generally listen to what rhem women are saying. This is another problem with women. "selective hearing" you listen to the guy putting her down but ignore what the jaded harpies said to elicit the response. And I'll fully admit some of us guys do judge women harshly. But certainly no more then women judge us before 40. Why? Because you can. Turnabout is fair play. Don't like it? Don't get old. I didn't make the rules.
First, congratulations on making my point. Besides, all the men? It's all the same small number of men, a disproportional number of those men with a huge criminal record, another huge number of the same guys who don't even know they are fathers (the sort of guys who swear to me that the pull out method really works), and a bunch of other men estranged from their kids paying child support to an army of baby mommas, each of whom has the same 4 baby daddies.
you can judge older women. But i can tell you for sure that young women typically don't want a much older man either. Unless you're still extremely hot at 45, I can guarantee you that you won't be attracting women like you used to when you were a young man.
I don't think immature people realize that your options tend to run out as you enter your late 30s- 40s. At some point in life, your dating pool will shrink drastically. All your peers are married, or single parents too busy raising kids to find time to date, too much baggage, less attractive, less time to date, people growing less social as they get older.
At some point in life, your options will run out and you will have to settle. In your 20s, everyone is single, attractive, and have plenty of options. This won't be the case by the time you hit your late 30s to 40s.
@shaysh87 do you realize how foolish you sound? Men don't care about their children? I have a friend who's raised a son that wasn't even his. He started dating a pregnant woman that at about the age her child was able to walk decided she was done with motherhood. You knowbif you truly believe women are so much better than men then why spit venom on here. Find yourself a nice woman and settle down with her.
what I'm saying is. you can shit on older women all you want. But by the time you are 40 years old, you run out of options. You'd be lucky if you could get a 33 yr old woman. Sure, you can continue dreaming about bagging the young hot sexy 21 yr old. But chances are you're not gonna be able to score someone hot and young like that. 21 yr olds do not tend to be looking for marriage and kids either.
All I'm saying is, at some point in your life, you will have to settle.
First, thanks for proving my point again, you red herring won't work here.
Also, are you sure mom's are the better parents? If they love their children why are they record holders in child abuse? And estranging the kid from the other parent? And no fault divorce?
Why do single dads have so much better track record than single moms as well?
a mother choosing to raise her own children is better than a deadbeat dad who abandons his own children. you have no idea how common it is for fathers to abandon their kids.
@shaysh87 They've been sh*tting on older women who spent their whole twenties treating men as disposable and then hitting their mid 30s and finally wanting to settle down, only to discover no one wants them anymore. It's NOT just "older women." It's women with sh*t personalities who think the whole world revolves around them and that they can treat men as a cheap commodity when they want to, and then think anyone wants them after their youth and beauty has dried up (as if they actually have any good personality traits to redeem, in spite of that).
So you're wrong. No one gives a good, caring, kind woman grief, regardless of her age. But a good, caring, kind woman also will likely find an equally good, caring, kind man, as well. Unlike short men, who can be a 10/10 in all else, but had to be Tom Cruise in order to "compensate" for something he had zero control in, like his height.
And @ChiTown33 is 100% right. So many women are stubborn and think anyone pointing out how wrong they are, is "misogyny" or some bullsh*t. This is usually why women make far worse choices than men; they often are allowed to get away with it or avoid consequences for their own actions and choices. Like said old women who treated their 20s like whores, then want to act like they're "quality women" once they hit 37. Just look at Charlize Theron whining in magazines about no men "stepping up" to her, despite being rich and beautiful (on the outside, only). These women never ONCE ever think "maybe it's me; maybe I'm the problem."
One, you proved you were full of bullshit, old women can easily get laid, point proven.
Two, no, the mother who estranges the father from his kid is just as bad as a father who knowingly doesn't even pay child support. Mind you that the latter one is a crime.
Three, I know, it's way less common than mothers who estrange the fathers from their kids.
so what if you meet a wonderful 33 yr old woman with a nice, caring, kind personality who wants to settle down? you wouldn't want her anyways. you would say "I don't date any woman over 30".
The next day you get rejected by a hot 21 yr old, then you come onto GAG and cry "why do women have such high standards?" then you start bashing all women on here.
Is it you that have high standards or women who have high standards?
@shaysh87 Don't tell me what I would want or try to put words in my mouth. And I have stated several times on this site what my criteria in a woman is. You're new, so you probably never saw those.
It sounds like you're projecting your crap onto me because I've been rejected by women of all different ages. But usually it's due to my height (or lack thereof) more than anything else.
First, let's focus on what you are ignoring with your red herring. You admit that 30yo women can easily get laid. They aren't as hated as short guys by your own standards.
Secondly, actually they do estrange fathers from their kids more often, just the sheer number of fathers that don't even know they are fathers is a great show of such. Something you said is all OK.
First, how many of those are of "father unknown", two, how many of those have fathers who are in prison or are ex convicts, and how many of those fathers were violent criminals?
"The most recent Census Bureau data shows that only 43.5% of custodial parents received full payment of child support due in 2015. And last year in the District, 32% of custodial parents received partial or no child support payments." Have you tried reading your own article?
2. Have you tried looking into it like someone actually trying to solve the problem, doing a detailed analysis of the situation? As one example, how many of those "fathers" were even declared by the woman and how many of those even know they are fathers?
[As one example, how many of those "fathers" were even declared by the woman and how many of those even know they are fathers?]
this proves my point that men don't love their kids. how can you say that you love your kids if you dont pay child support or you have kids that you don't know about? does that sound like a man who cares?
In regard to these statistics, those women who were ENTITLED to child support payments (father is known) are either not getting child support payments at all or are not getting the full amount they need.
Not really, you only know if you are a father if you are told.
I know personally quite a few of those women who just never informed the father or the authorities. And then there's "who's the father" if you select for men who suffer from "anti-social personality disorder" or who aren't fatherly, or who are so irresponsible that they have fathered to many kids to be able to care for all of them, then you get exactly what you selected for.
That's true for men and women, I also know a shit ton of guys who fathered kids with both dead beat moms and with women who tried or succeeded in denying them their parental rights, I also tell them "you get what you select for".
the only way the government has a statistic of single mothers not receiving their child support payments is only if there is proof that you are the father and the government is expecting you, the father, to pay your baby mama.
The government won't be expecting anything from you , if there was absolutely no proof that you are the father.
That's not how it works, the system right now is that the mother names you and you are responsible for proving you are not the father when it comes to being legally liable to child support. But when it comes to the research, they only collect the data of single mothers and total number single mothers who receive child support from named fathers.
That's their usual methodology, which is why you aren't given a single answer to the hard questions, ever.
@anylolone paternity tests are needed prove that you are the father. the mother can't just accuse you of being baby daddy without proof. and if you are the baby daddy, the government WILL know that you are expected to pay child support. And when you do not pay, the GOVERNMENT KNOWS. And if you do pay, the government KNOWS HOW MUCH YOU PAID.
Actually mothers can just accuse you of being a father. You only option against paternity fraud is counter suing and asking for a DNA test, and guess what, the mother isn't automatically required to comply with it either, as the sole legal custodian guardian of the kid.
If it was like you said, the whole of the millennial generation would all be DNA tested, at least sure of who's not their daddy.
And guess what, your ilk fights tooth and nail against mandatory paternity testing.
people will assume you are the baby daddy if you agree that you are the father. If the mother accuse you of being the baby daddy but you deny it, then you will be given a paternity test regardless. But you would have to be a very shitty person to be father a child yet deny that you are father.
but I think the sheer number of single parents that are women, show that mothers tend to be better parents than fathers.
Government assumes the man that a woman gives the name as the biological father is the father. If you deny, you aren't "given" a paternity test regardless, either parent has to ask for it during the process and who ever asks has to pay for it, which is usually the father. Rarely, if ever, the government just shoulders the cost for the test.
I also want you to understand something, no man knows he's the father until there's a DNA test. And no woman comes with "I slept with several dudes but I know which one is the father" instinct.
You have to be a very shitty woman to categorically affirm one dude is the father when you slept with multiple dudes at the period. And I've seen very few women in that situation do it. And I've seen a lot of women pick a guy who couldn't even be the father.
[Government assumes the man that a woman gives the name as the biological father is the father.]
the government will never assume anything unless the baby daddy AGREES with it. why would the government ask for a paternity test if the baby daddy agrees he's the baby daddy?
and yes, if the baby daddy does not pay child support, the government knows.
so don't play the game of "these statistics are fake because most of these baby mamas just randomly accuse men of being baby daddies".
These statistics are baby daddies who agree they are the fathers YET do not end up paying child support or fail to pay the full amount of child support expected by the government.
The government sets the amount of how much you need to pay.
[You have to be a very shitty woman to categorically affirm one dude is the father when you slept with multiple dudes at the period. And I've seen very few women in that situation do it.]
if you weren't being a man whore and sleeping around, you wouldn't be fathering babies that you aren't even sure if they are yours.
YOU: sleeps around with 10 different women, one of them suddenly gets pregnant and doesn't know who the father is. You didn't use a condom. You slept with someone who was not your girlfriend or wife.
HER: takes paternity test, finds out the baby daddy is you.
YOU: "Its all her fault! she should have never slept around in the first place! I'm not the father. I don't have to pay child support. Thats not my child. The record that you have on me is completely fake!"
Wrong, government should not make baseless assumptions, but in this case it does. It does because for the longest time it did have to, it was a case of "his word against her". Nowdays it isn't, guess who's against mandatory DNA testing?
If a guy is a slut and fucks 10 women and one get's pregnant he still doesn't know he's the father.
Your logic could easily be used for cases of babies being exchanged in the nursery. By your logic, the woman loses her right to her biological babies and not to be burdened by someone else's babies against her consent. She also loses the right to abortion and to give her child away.
Let me explain how men don't get a right to a DNA test. If the mother decides to give the child away, he has no right to get the guard in the rare occurrence that he knows that she had a kid and it's likely his.
The woman rarely asks for a paternity test, after all, the policy is to side with her. And now to the fun part, a third of all those tests come back with "you are not the father", and guess what, even in those occasions, if the father took care of the child, he's still required to pay child support.
I’m the asker but lost my account. I’m 6ft3 and can tell you girls that girls aren’t too bothered. It just makes me stand out a lot to them which is great. I tend to see women only dating guys a tad taller than them which is weird
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Not all ladies love tall guys that's my opinion... benjaminfred689@gmail. com at your service
Y'all guys are just good looking. Same way men like hourglass figure
Tall I wanted to say
why are men so obsessed with hot girls?
What do you mean? It's her personality that we're drawn to.
@ChiTown33
yeaaa... you're gonna hit on a girl on the street cuz you're attracted to her personality. NOT
Yeah. We like her swagger how she carries herself. Maybe you just need to work on your confidence.
@ChiTown33
yea... just take a look at how many men shit on women over 30 on here
generalizing is in now. all guys are brainless horny dumb asses. YAY
Just look how women over 30 don't have problem getting laid.
@shaysh87
We're not. That's just bullsh*t insecure women like to blame us for. Same thing with the "no men like women with curves" nonsense.
@MCheetah
im pretty sure its not women just being insecure. I've been seeing a lot of shitting on older women on here.
@anylolone
anyone can get laid. even an obese woman.
You mean "any woman".
And yes, any woman can get laid, of course, there's whole societal coercion to allow undeserving women the right to sex and breeding, but that's exactly my point.
@anylolone
yea... all the men sleeping around with obese and ugly women. this is why we have so many single moms.
You have so many single mom's because women choose very badly. And don't learn very quickly your stubbornness is your downfall. You're usually 1 or 2 kids in before you accept you made a bad choice.
As for older women getting trashed on here there might be some of that. But generally listen to what rhem women are saying. This is another problem with women. "selective hearing" you listen to the guy putting her down but ignore what the jaded harpies said to elicit the response. And I'll fully admit some of us guys do judge women harshly. But certainly no more then women judge us before 40. Why? Because you can. Turnabout is fair play. Don't like it? Don't get old. I didn't make the rules.
First, congratulations on making my point.
Besides, all the men? It's all the same small number of men, a disproportional number of those men with a huge criminal record, another huge number of the same guys who don't even know they are fathers (the sort of guys who swear to me that the pull out method really works), and a bunch of other men estranged from their kids paying child support to an army of baby mommas, each of whom has the same 4 baby daddies.
lol!
@ChiTown33
you can judge older women. But i can tell you for sure that young women typically don't want a much older man either. Unless you're still extremely hot at 45, I can guarantee you that you won't be attracting women like you used to when you were a young man.
@anylolone
women are clearly the better gender. men don't love their children. only moms love their kids.
@ChiTown33
I don't think immature people realize that your options tend to run out as you enter your late 30s- 40s. At some point in life, your dating pool will shrink drastically. All your peers are married, or single parents too busy raising kids to find time to date, too much baggage, less attractive, less time to date, people growing less social as they get older.
At some point in life, your options will run out and you will have to settle. In your 20s, everyone is single, attractive, and have plenty of options. This won't be the case by the time you hit your late 30s to 40s.
@shaysh87 do you realize how foolish you sound? Men don't care about their children? I have a friend who's raised a son that wasn't even his. He started dating a pregnant woman that at about the age her child was able to walk decided she was done with motherhood.
You knowbif you truly believe women are so much better than men then why spit venom on here. Find yourself a nice woman and settle down with her.
@ChiTown33
what I'm saying is. you can shit on older women all you want. But by the time you are 40 years old, you run out of options. You'd be lucky if you could get a 33 yr old woman. Sure, you can continue dreaming about bagging the young hot sexy 21 yr old. But chances are you're not gonna be able to score someone hot and young like that. 21 yr olds do not tend to be looking for marriage and kids either.
All I'm saying is, at some point in your life, you will have to settle.
First, thanks for proving my point again, you red herring won't work here.
Also, are you sure mom's are the better parents? If they love their children why are they record holders in child abuse?
And estranging the kid from the other parent?
And no fault divorce?
Why do single dads have so much better track record than single moms as well?
@anylolone
a mother choosing to raise her own children is better than a deadbeat dad who abandons his own children. you have no idea how common it is for fathers to abandon their kids.
@shaysh87
They've been sh*tting on older women who spent their whole twenties treating men as disposable and then hitting their mid 30s and finally wanting to settle down, only to discover no one wants them anymore. It's NOT just "older women." It's women with sh*t personalities who think the whole world revolves around them and that they can treat men as a cheap commodity when they want to, and then think anyone wants them after their youth and beauty has dried up (as if they actually have any good personality traits to redeem, in spite of that).
So you're wrong. No one gives a good, caring, kind woman grief, regardless of her age. But a good, caring, kind woman also will likely find an equally good, caring, kind man, as well. Unlike short men, who can be a 10/10 in all else, but had to be Tom Cruise in order to "compensate" for something he had zero control in, like his height.
And @ChiTown33 is 100% right. So many women are stubborn and think anyone pointing out how wrong they are, is "misogyny" or some bullsh*t. This is usually why women make far worse choices than men; they often are allowed to get away with it or avoid consequences for their own actions and choices. Like said old women who treated their 20s like whores, then want to act like they're "quality women" once they hit 37. Just look at Charlize Theron whining in magazines about no men "stepping up" to her, despite being rich and beautiful (on the outside, only). These women never ONCE ever think "maybe it's me; maybe I'm the problem."
One, you proved you were full of bullshit, old women can easily get laid, point proven.
Two, no, the mother who estranges the father from his kid is just as bad as a father who knowingly doesn't even pay child support. Mind you that the latter one is a crime.
Three, I know, it's way less common than mothers who estrange the fathers from their kids.
@MCheetah
so what if you meet a wonderful 33 yr old woman with a nice, caring, kind personality who wants to settle down? you wouldn't want her anyways.
you would say "I don't date any woman over 30".
The next day you get rejected by a hot 21 yr old, then you come onto GAG and cry "why do women have such high standards?" then you start bashing all women on here.
Is it you that have high standards or women who have high standards?
@anylolone
mothers usually do not estrange father away from the kids. its usually the fathers who choose to leave or not see the kid.
@shaysh87
Don't tell me what I would want or try to put words in my mouth. And I have stated several times on this site what my criteria in a woman is. You're new, so you probably never saw those.
It sounds like you're projecting your crap onto me because I've been rejected by women of all different ages. But usually it's due to my height (or lack thereof) more than anything else.
First, let's focus on what you are ignoring with your red herring.
You admit that 30yo women can easily get laid. They aren't as hated as short guys by your own standards.
Secondly, actually they do estrange fathers from their kids more often, just the sheer number of fathers that don't even know they are fathers is a great show of such. Something you said is all OK.
@anylolone
Nationally, more than 70% of single mothers do not receive any child support at all from fathers, according to the Annie E. Casey Foundation.
https:/
/www. npr. org/local/305/2020/02/25/809281540/after-the-break-up-moving-forward-as-a-single-parent-when-child-support-goes-unpaid
First, how many of those are of "father unknown", two, how many of those have fathers who are in prison or are ex convicts, and how many of those fathers were violent criminals?
"The most recent Census Bureau data shows that only 43.5% of custodial parents received full payment of child support due in 2015. And last year in the District, 32% of custodial parents received partial or no child support payments." Have you tried reading your own article?
@anylolone
thats right. why do so few of single mothers get child support payments?
First, thank you for proving my point.
2. Have you tried looking into it like someone actually trying to solve the problem, doing a detailed analysis of the situation?
As one example, how many of those "fathers" were even declared by the woman and how many of those even know they are fathers?
@anylolone
[As one example, how many of those "fathers" were even declared by the woman and how many of those even know they are fathers?]
this proves my point that men don't love their kids. how can you say that you love your kids if you dont pay child support or you have kids that you don't know about? does that sound like a man who cares?
In regard to these statistics, those women who were ENTITLED to child support payments (father is known) are either not getting child support payments at all or are not getting the full amount they need.
@anylolone
the government knows if a man is supposed to be paying child support. and if you do not pay, the government records it down.
Not really, you only know if you are a father if you are told.
I know personally quite a few of those women who just never informed the father or the authorities.
And then there's "who's the father" if you select for men who suffer from "anti-social personality disorder" or who aren't fatherly, or who are so irresponsible that they have fathered to many kids to be able to care for all of them, then you get exactly what you selected for.
That's true for men and women, I also know a shit ton of guys who fathered kids with both dead beat moms and with women who tried or succeeded in denying them their parental rights, I also tell them "you get what you select for".
@anylolone
the only way the government has a statistic of single mothers not receiving their child support payments is only if there is proof that you are the father and the government is expecting you, the father, to pay your baby mama.
The government won't be expecting anything from you , if there was absolutely no proof that you are the father.
@anylolone
because the reality is, the government knows if you need to pay child support. And if you don't end up paying, the government has record of it.
That's not how it works, the system right now is that the mother names you and you are responsible for proving you are not the father when it comes to being legally liable to child support.
But when it comes to the research, they only collect the data of single mothers and total number single mothers who receive child support from named fathers.
That's their usual methodology, which is why you aren't given a single answer to the hard questions, ever.
@anylolone
paternity tests are needed prove that you are the father. the mother can't just accuse you of being baby daddy without proof. and if you are the baby daddy, the government WILL know that you are expected to pay child support. And when you do not pay, the GOVERNMENT KNOWS. And if you do pay, the government KNOWS HOW MUCH YOU PAID.
Actually mothers can just accuse you of being a father.
You only option against paternity fraud is counter suing and asking for a DNA test, and guess what, the mother isn't automatically required to comply with it either, as the sole legal custodian guardian of the kid.
If it was like you said, the whole of the millennial generation would all be DNA tested, at least sure of who's not their daddy.
And guess what, your ilk fights tooth and nail against mandatory paternity testing.
@anylolone
people will assume you are the baby daddy if you agree that you are the father. If the mother accuse you of being the baby daddy but you deny it, then you will be given a paternity test regardless. But you would have to be a very shitty person to be father a child yet deny that you are father.
but I think the sheer number of single parents that are women, show that mothers tend to be better parents than fathers.
That's not how it works.
Government assumes the man that a woman gives the name as the biological father is the father.
If you deny, you aren't "given" a paternity test regardless, either parent has to ask for it during the process and who ever asks has to pay for it, which is usually the father.
Rarely, if ever, the government just shoulders the cost for the test.
I also want you to understand something, no man knows he's the father until there's a DNA test.
And no woman comes with "I slept with several dudes but I know which one is the father" instinct.
You have to be a very shitty woman to categorically affirm one dude is the father when you slept with multiple dudes at the period. And I've seen very few women in that situation do it.
And I've seen a lot of women pick a guy who couldn't even be the father.
@anylolone
[Government assumes the man that a woman gives the name as the biological father is the father.]
the government will never assume anything unless the baby daddy AGREES with it. why would the government ask for a paternity test if the baby daddy agrees he's the baby daddy?
and yes, if the baby daddy does not pay child support, the government knows.
so don't play the game of "these statistics are fake because most of these baby mamas just randomly accuse men of being baby daddies".
These statistics are baby daddies who agree they are the fathers YET do not end up paying child support or fail to pay the full amount of child support expected by the government.
The government sets the amount of how much you need to pay.
@anylolone
[You have to be a very shitty woman to categorically affirm one dude is the father when you slept with multiple dudes at the period. And I've seen very few women in that situation do it.]
if you weren't being a man whore and sleeping around, you wouldn't be fathering babies that you aren't even sure if they are yours.
@anylolone
YOU: sleeps around with 10 different women, one of them suddenly gets pregnant and doesn't know who the father is. You didn't use a condom. You slept with someone who was not your girlfriend or wife.
HER: takes paternity test, finds out the baby daddy is you.
YOU: "Its all her fault! she should have never slept around in the first place! I'm not the father. I don't have to pay child support. Thats not my child. The record that you have on me is completely fake!"
Wrong, government should not make baseless assumptions, but in this case it does.
It does because for the longest time it did have to, it was a case of "his word against her".
Nowdays it isn't, guess who's against mandatory DNA testing?
If a guy is a slut and fucks 10 women and one get's pregnant he still doesn't know he's the father.
Your logic could easily be used for cases of babies being exchanged in the nursery.
By your logic, the woman loses her right to her biological babies and not to be burdened by someone else's babies against her consent.
She also loses the right to abortion and to give her child away.
Let me explain how men don't get a right to a DNA test. If the mother decides to give the child away, he has no right to get the guard in the rare occurrence that he knows that she had a kid and it's likely his.
The woman rarely asks for a paternity test, after all, the policy is to side with her.
And now to the fun part, a third of all those tests come back with "you are not the father", and guess what, even in those occasions, if the father took care of the child, he's still required to pay child support.
I just want a a guy to protect me and cuddle me.
As long as he is taller than me, I am fine
I wouldn't say obsessed
Lmao
No. Some of us just like them, a lot.
I don't really care. I like both
If they are Rowoon, Yes
Lollll
Know him?
Yup. The guy from Extraordinary You, right?
Yes! He's dreamy
No it's built into us to seek them for mating
I’m the asker but lost my account. I’m 6ft3 and can tell you girls that girls aren’t too bothered. It just makes me stand out a lot to them which is great. I tend to see women only dating guys a tad taller than them which is weird
@Msnxhxj few options man. Im 5'9 and have struggled
I would love to date a tall girl like 5’9/5’11 for some reason I just feel more shy around them!
Even though I’m a big guy
@Msnxhxj we are intimidating I hear
Yes but sexy intimidating
☹️☹️☹️
@Msnxhxj I don't understand
Tall girls are sexy asf. But like I get a bit too nervous before approaching one. Are taller girls like 5’10 more likely to be single?
Many are until they mature in that area.
I wouldn't say obsessed, but they prefer them.
I'm tall, So I'm not sure.
They're more aroused in the presence of tall men.
Define obsessed?
Nope
i don't care
Yes they are
I think so
Obviously