Are most women not looking for a serious relationship until they are in their mid to late 20s?

[Gangactivities911]

This seems to be my experience but that’s a problem for me because I don't know if I want a serious relationship at that point in life I wanted it in my late teens and early 20s and the girls didn’t seem to want it then but not that I’m 26 it seems like women my age are much more eager to have a relationship but at this point I don't know if I want one. So I don't know what to do now.

[bamesjond0069]

Yes its typical but that doesn't mean you have to accept it. Girls who are 18 and just want their husband to come sweep them off their feet and never want a nasty hookup are high quality women. Dont work on the average womans timeline or else you will have big big problems. See most mens dating and relationship experiences. Most men work on womens fucked up timeline and thats the cause of all their issues.

Just because women want a relationship when they get older doesn't mean you should do it. As you age if you keep in shape and have at least some career success you will gain attractiveness to women at a steady rate upward for a long time still. So dont fall for their bullshit. If you just want casual sex nows your time, go for it.

Just keep in mind when you are finally ready for a relationship dont give it to a shitty low quality woman just because thats whats "normal" these days. Who wants to be a normal shmuck anyways? See how that works for them? Usually not good. If you dont get it yet and you look around and you keep up yourself, you will eventually see what im talking about and you will realize you're going to be pigeonholed into one of three options in life:

1. Perpetually single. You can hookup and friends with benefits as much as you are able to maintain and thats the rest of your life.

2. Get serious with some shitty low value woman. Assume divorce and cheating, both super common and not just possible but most likely. You will more than 50% get cheated on or served divorce papers or both.

3. Break some eggs and piss people off and get with a much younger high value woman.

[Gangactivities911]

But it’s not just like some of the women literally every women I talk to seem to expect me to just wait around forever for them. Where are these high quality women that won’t make me wait or do I just have to force them to get going with the ultimatum that I am disappearing and never coming back? Idgi

[bamesjond0069]

Wait for what? A relationship? Never wait. No such thing as right person wrong time. The right girl will instantly be all about you and know you're perfect for her. Be more "fuck off" attitude. If a girl isn't on my program quite quick i knows she's legit a bad match or super low quality. So why waste my time?

Also how many ferraris are there on the road and how many hondas? you're nuts if you think their are just tons of high quality women walking around and they are just turn a corner and get one. If that were true why do most men settle for shit?

you're young and going to get more attractive every year for the next 20 years provided you work out and work on your financials and keep a good mental attitude ie dont get salty and grumpy. Point being you have time to sleep around and keep your eye out for someone worthwhile, so dont rush to any sort of commitment.

[Chris_Chambers0010]

Yes it seems that some people wait until later to settle down. It kind of puts pressure on the situation, like they're running out of time and want to get married. Fortunately for me I was in a serious relationship early on and we were at the point of getting married at your age after already living together for many years.
I think it just depends on your long-term goals and if you want to raise a family. Ultimately you just do what you want, it's your life.

[shaysh87]

The narrative of getting married Ans having kids is an archaic outdated narrative that no longer works. Have you seen how many people in their 40-50s are divorced nowadays?

[shaysh87]

In fact an increasing number of people are avoiding marriage so they can have a quick easy separation in the future if things don’t work out.

I just don’t see the point in getting married If there’s no will to stick to a marriage. Half of all marriages end in divorce. If those numbers don’t shock you, I don’t know what will

[Chris_Chambers0010]

@shaysh87
The concept of reproduction will always continue though.
Unfortunately some people wait too long and never finished nd a partner who wants kids at the same time as them. They can adopt or try to be a single parent on purpose at a later age, but that's even more difficult.

[Chris_Chambers0010]

*They wait too long to find a partner to have kids basically. They forget about all the time it usuually takes to form a relationship that strong to where a couple wants to raise a family together.
The old Biological clock.

[shaysh87]

A relationship is not necessary to have children. If I’m unmarried by 34, I can go to a sperm bank, find a coparent or sleep around.

There’s no point to getting married to have a child. Because half of all marriages end in divorce anyways.

[shaysh87]

Do you realize how many kids are being raised by divorced single mothers who only get to see their dads once a month?

Marriage is really not a garuantee of stability or happy family home for a child. I’ve seen lots of my friends get married only to be fight , be unhappy with their spouses , staying together in a lackluster marriage just for the kids. Raising kids in such a turbulent environment cannot be good either. It’s way better to raise kids in a good happy single mothers household than a turbulent / violent marriage

[Gangactivities911]

@shaysh87 how do u expect society to survive if no one has kids?

[shaysh87]

Fools like you think forming a romantic relationship is a garuantee to a happy family home. Guess what? It isn’t. Just take a look at the divorce statistics.

If you’re a woman, you can always have kids in your life if you want them. Why wait until the end of your childbearing years at 40 to finally start having kids if you can have them at 35?

[shaysh87]

@Gangactivities911

Actually research shows an increasing number of men Ans women who are single and childless.

[Chris_Chambers0010]

@shaysh87
I think you may have a harder time than you think to just "Find a coparent" at 34 or raise a child on your own. It can be done, but it isn't ideal. Being a single parent isn't really supposed to be the goal it's more of a situation you deal with out of necessity.
I've already been married and raised a child up to a teenager at this point.
I don't think you want to hear my experience because your life is going to be different based on the choices you've already made.

[shaysh87]

“ I think you may have a harder time than you think to just "Find a coparent" at 34 or raise a child on your own. It can be done, but it isn't ideal. ”

Coparenting is a relatively modern new idea that came into play only recently. Old fashioned archaic outdated people like you from 25 -30 years ago see marriage as a necessary precursor to children. But I’m gonna tell an old fool like you to brush up on modern times. Many young couples nowadays aren’t even getting married anymore. Young people no longer see marriage as a necessary step in life compared to what you were taught in your generation.

In all honestly , I don’t think marriage is necessary to raise children. As long as the child has a supportive environment with great parents , well loved , great relatives who treasure them. Then it will end up turning out fine.

I was raised by a married parents. I had an abusive father and an incompetent mother, honestly I wished I never had a father. Though they were in a romantic relationship , my father was always bad tempered and verbally abusive. Marriage garuantees nothing

What is the most beneficial is to have people around the child that loves the child , where the child has nobody to fear.

[shaysh87]

By the way, there are apps and websites to finding coparent nowadays. It’s becoming increasingly common in the modern world, which may seem like a terrible shock to old fashioned archaic people like you

[Chris_Chambers0010]

@shaysh87
I'm beginning to understand why you seem to be so against marriage or even attempting to give a child a life with two parents together (At least during the early years).
You said "I was raised by a married parents. I had an abusive father and an incompetent mother, honestly I wished I never had a father."
Of course you're going to have a biased view based on your traumatic childhood experiences.
You can't just assume that's how all families are based on your situation.

[shaysh87]

Because girls in their early 20s are fresh out of childhood , still immature , exploring the world. I remember being 20-23 years old. I had no interest in getting married. I wanted to talk to boys , date around , explore all my options before committing. Just like boys like freedom and adventure , girls like it too

to force a young girl fresh out of childhood to immediately start looking for a husband is abusive and restrictive. It’s no way to enjoy one’s life. Dating should be an enjoyable process , not folllowing orders and strict procedures on finding a husband

[Gangactivities911]

But the thing is these young women tend to unknowingly go for more attractive men than they can realistically get long term by leveraging their age and sex appeal. And as a result these same young men have a very hard time getting a quality partner and it doesn’t seem fair to me. And if that’s just how it is then ur placing a very strong incentive on men to not want a serious relationship in life. When u say dating should be an enjoyable process ur only talking about women not men I hope u understand.

[shaysh87]

Reality is , vast majority rich people tend to marry other rich people. Vast majority of people marry within the same culture , similar levels of education even similar age range.

Men tend to lose sex appeal with age too. Don’t think you’re more attractive at 40 than at 30. You’re not gonna be attract the young women like you used to at 40 unless you are rich. Vast majority of guys never make it rich in life

[Gangactivities911]

doesn't mean I ever have to marry a woman my own age tho.

[shaysh87]

You don’t have to. But by the time you hit 40, don’t think there would be a lot of 25 yr olds willing to date you. Chances are vast majority of them would be going for men who are younger than you

[Anonymous]

I think it's the opposite usually. The reason why I only date older guys right now is that most every guy my age isn't looking for any sort of committed/serious relationship.

[Gangactivities911]

For me at least I was super interested in a serious relationship in my late teens and early 20s and now at 26 I don't know if I ever want a serious relationship cuz when I was young women weren’t looking for one. So I don't know.

[Splatmate22]

It deponds. I am only looking for a serious long term relationship. Not intersted in hockup.

[Gangactivities911]

Maybe this is a silly question but then why aren’t u in one? I’ve seen the average women’s tinder account and they get so many matches they don’t know what to do with it and real life seems to be a similar story. With all this male attention wouldn’t u figure most women would be able to find a relationship pretty easily?

[Splatmate22]

I already tried but always had a lot of bad luck streak through 2022 first part of it. I don't use tinder.

[Gangactivities911]

What do u mean? How many guys did u try to go on a date with? I feel like u want a relationship but ur not willing to work very hard for it and if it doesn’t happen now that’s ok cuz u still have ur whole life ahead of u? Is that accurate?

[Splatmate22]

I already had a lot of relationships and none of them did not work out. Always ended one way. Other guys that I tried. Some made mistakes. were too old. The dating site that I have been using whisper4u. Only to be going on a date with one guy. Other two guys are already show some red flags.

[Gangactivities911]

None of them did not work out? U mean like they all wanted to get married to u?

[Splatmate22]

I didn't even want to be married anyway. Just had a long term. Turn out be crazy some of previous ex boys.

[Splatmate22]

Only had more bad relationships with men. Cheaters.

[Anonymous]

Women don't want to settle down until they older and have fun having sex with lots of people in their 20s. So a lot of them, not all, have a high body count and no pair bonding ability.

[Gangactivities911]

Sure what it seems like