Why are guys not allowed to ask how much a woman weighs after she asks how tall he is?

[Anonymous]

Updates

+1 y

If I were a man and a woman asked how tall I am. I would answer and then ask her how many men she had sex with. That would exasperate her more than just asking how much she weighs.

Updates

+1 y

Would you judge a tall man for telling such women that he prefers tall girls too?
A short woman who claims she is only interested in tall men. Would you think it is inappropriate if the tall man says he prefers tall women?

[TheHelleri]

There is a categorical distinction to be made between the two questions. That distinction being between immutable and mutable traits.

Things like one's height, skin color, and sex are immutable. Meaning one gets what they get in that those departments and they don't have much control over how those things will express as traits outside of taking extraordinary measures (an ordinary measure being merely a change in one or more behaviors to have significant effect).

Things like one's weight, complexion, physical strength are all mutable traits. Which means they are (relative to immutable traits) easily altered with only changes in behavior.

So there is a difference of kind in the questions being asked. Now which one is more offensive in the asking is going to depend on what the individual feels is more acceptable to discriminate against.

But there isn't a double standard here. The height discrimination would only be a double standard if for instance the person requiring that the other be above a certain height refuses to say their own height under the belief that their own height shouldn't matter; Not when declining to answer a similar question but one that does have a categorical distinction.

[Asker]

👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[alice55]

I find it ironic the girl would write non judgmental, open and accepting after writing a list of criteria to have harder than one of an employer XD

And they're allowed to but it's just not a gentleman things to do, if a man ask my weight I'm gonna respond I don't care about it but a lots of women are insecure about their weight so they're just gonna lie (in French dating app you have to put your height, weight, hair color, etc... on your profil page so people can filter the profile so we don't have a problem regarding this). There's only app like tinder that pose trouble usually.

If a tall man say he prefer tall women he's gonna get insulted.

Too women can get away with more since guys date the first women they see, how many cute guys I've seen dating women who have piggy face and were midget and overweight. you can complain about not being able to ask a girl weight but majority of men even attractive one date ugly fat women so why would those women change when there's tons of guys waiting to date them?

and why are they like that truly? It's cause that's what their parents told them. I know hundred of women whose parents and even grandparents told them to not date an unemployed man, poor man, short man, etc... It's just their education, upbringing.

My mother for exemple hate, completely hate blonde guys for no reasons at all and also hate short guys (while she's only 162 cm, about 5'3) and is also insecure about her height, she wish she was as tall as me.

[MCheetah]

"I find it ironic the girl would write non judgmental, open and accepting after writing a list of criteria to have harder than one of an employer"

That's most women in online dating in general. And then on GAG women complain about guys being over-obessed about height and penis size, as if it came out of nowhere. Women in real life are the same way, they just hide it better. It's not like all these women online are bots and don't exist in reality.

And this is just one of 99 problems in why dating sucks so much as a guy in today's day and age.

If you're a guy and can easily get women, chances are, you won't want 90% of the women out there, and won't respect them because their personalities suck like this. Which is why women complain about there being "no good guys left" in their thirties. They ignored them all because they were 5'11"and under, and these men either moved on, became MGTOW, or otherwise gave up on women.

[alice55]

@MCheetah Women in real life don't say it open in front of the guy but they definitely do it in front of others women, they'er also quite harsh.
Dating suck both ways really, if you search to have a stable relationship to get married in your early 20s you're gonna have a really hard time.
There's no good man left when they're 30s cause they got married to "good" women they didn't stand there waiting for judgmental girls to date them. Also they never date good men because they find them annoying or too shy / introverted not cool enough.

[MCheetah]

True.

[ChooChooHaha]

That's overly generalized, tb frank.

I'm female. You can ask me whatever straight up, just like I'll ask you whatever (within reason). Same shit, different smell in my book. I wouldn't LEAD with it, but if we got to conversating as peoples, and it happened to come up or whatever, sure. I also view it as personal and private information, you can always decline to answer. Most of the time, but if you're almost 7 feet tall, would you not expect that question to be somewhat frequent? Just like people ask me if I have kids sometimes, man or woman, I always ask them right back if they have kids.

[globetrotter22]

It’s a typical bs double standard. To be fair not all women are like this though. But it is bs that they can blatantly post a requirement like this (which is something a man has zero control over) and yet shame men who aren’t attracted to heavy girls (which is something you can control although its not easy)

Also weight is a relative question. An athletic girl who looks good Can weight just as much as chubby chic at the same height.

However if a girl only has face pics on dating app that tells me she is insecure about her body and most likely overweight.

[Iwant2kno]

Personally I don’t see why most women get upset when asked this question by men. I think that if one is confident and has self love, then revealing weight shouldn’t be a issues.

[Pinay_ako]

Idc if they ask about my weight coz before my weight loss, tbh I didn’t care how much I weighed. And I’m short so idc either how tall the guy is either coz it’s a fact everyone is taller than me. However, I think it’s rude to ask how much someone weighs but I get asked a lot how short I am. 😒 If that’s the basis of dating me, I don’t want you 🤣. I think it’s shallow… 😑

[Still-alive]

I only date those if they are 4 inches tall. mmhmm i am very shallow :P

[MCheetah]

So you're saying only women are allowed to be shallow then? And implying women are more shallow in general too?

As a side, I do find it funny that the biggest cucks and beta males on GAG are the only ones who upvoted you.

[Pinay_ako]

@MCheetah I think both sides are shallow if they base dating on the scales or numbers alone. 😑

[Thatgirlcvp]

Height doesn't matter to me. I don't use dating websites but I would never ask a guy that lol.

You'll get your answer when you see him in person there's no point in asking him and making yourself seem shallow.

A guy could ask my weight, I am skinny I weigh barely over 100 lbs... Though I wouldn't appreciate him asking how many guys I've been with because I'm a virgin.

That's a very personal question and if he asked that I would see it as him just being interested in sex so I would end it thinking he's a vagabond.

I never talk about sex with the guy unless we are serious/ comfortable with him and also I'm waiting for marriage.

[Sarahplus2]

I think you can usually tell from from the pic if he is tall or short.

[MCheetah]

It is allowed. These women are just shallow cunts and should be rightfully called out on their shit.

"How dare you treat me the same way I treat you! Ur a misogynist! Waaah!"

Bitch, you think I give a fuck? Women like this are what killed the nice guy in me. Witness these total kings own these shallow thots. Fellas, this is how you grow your balls back. Don't take shit from ANYONE, especially girls. (Not "women," but over-18 "girls.")

I'm 5'11", 295 lbs, my dick is six and a half inches. Now how much do you weigh, how many men have plowed you, and do you sell your body for money, on the internet or in person?

[Asker]

Just read the answers of insecure women on this thread lol. How they justify shallow women

[MCheetah]

Welcome to life as a straight guy.

[Delerium]

You have an excellent point. Never thought about that actually (probably because since I'm 5'10, I've never worried about my height), but it's totally true (though to be fair, I think there are a lot more men concerned about a woman's weight than there are women concerned about a man's height - that or the women just aren't admitting it as much lol). And seriously hypocritical!
But the weight question issue has been around for decades at least, if not centuries, at least while thin has been more of a social norm of attractiveness (and scales easily accessible to the public). I would guess that because we've been a male dominated society for so long, women have felt self conscious about appearing attractive to potential mates. Not then men haven't, but in the past (like 1950s and earlier), it was entirely up to the man to approach the woman, and women were expected to find a mate for survival/acceptance/prosperity, not just for love.

[DizzyDesii]

Height and weight are different. Both sensitive topics ig but if someone asks your height, you ask theirs in return or simply state you’re not comfortable answering. Weight shouldn't matter because it’ll depend on their height, metabolism and how the weight looks on them rather than the number itself. But with height, she may look taller than him in heels

[DizzyDesii]

That Arbys’ one tho

[Asker]

"if someone asks your height, you ask theirs in return or simply state you’re not comfortable answering."
What is wrong with being uncomfortable?

[DizzyDesii]

Nothing i said they can state they are uncomfortable with answering

[DoctorSex]

Weight is deeply important to me, you can tell a lot about a person's discipline levels by their weight. I've never slept with a big girl, it wouldn't be able to rise to the occasion. Women should be very careful not to find themselves being hypocritical. It's one sure way of loosing all credibility when you think in deeply insensitive, one sided ways.

Kind regards,
DoctorSex

[DizzyDesii]

@DoctorSex weight is important to a lot ot people. But my point was weight has nothing to do with height. So him asking that hardly made sense. Height however has to do with weight because the taller you are, a little more you could possibly weigh. Some people could be a bigger number but muscle so its best to judge based off how they look overall (height included) rather than how much they weigh alone

[DoctorSex]

I completely appreciate your position, the premise of her quet was to determine whether they were matchable by asking a deeply sensitive question. The very purpose of her question was to qualify or disqualify the guy. It was an extremely aggressive but maybe needed question.
As she set the stage of asking direct important questions for her, He in turn asked a question that was direct and very important to him.

No one has any right to Tell another person what he or she should value of find important in life.

However I do appreciate your position.

Kind regards,
DoctorSex

[DoctorSex]

premise Of her question*

[TruthBringer]

Because today's society revolves around women and their feelings. Feminism has made sure that there is a huge increase of narcissim within women in western society. One where they think they are free to practise their toxicity with impunity, while denying that same privilege to anyone else. (Young) women are taught directly or indirectly that men are disposable and void of feelings or humanity. Especially in the younger generations (like my own) where they think the world revovles around them and their feelings, all while not giving a damn what their own behavior does to others.

In my experience, these same people are the most miserable human beings themselves. Because often, the toxicity they put out in the world makes its way back to them. And the people they hurt are the ones to prevail and live happier lives. Anyone who researched the topic of narcissism knows this.

[VaasMontenegro]

Why so based bro?

[TruthBringer]

@VaasMontenegro Seeking the truth and also being observant makes you that, bro

[VaasMontenegro]

I see

[MCheetah]

I agree with you on everything except this:
"And the people they hurt are the ones to prevail and live happier lives."
I dunno... My happiness is long overdue from the number of times women crapped on me in my twenties. Especially over height and race.

[TruthBringer]

@MCheetah I was speaking more from people who dealt with emotional abuse from a narcissistic person. Victims of narcissistic abuse do often catapult themselves into happier lives than their abusers.

I don't know these women who dealt you a bad hand, but it wouldn't surprise me that some if not most of them already dug themselves a ditch with their poor life decisions. And I believe it is safe to assume this because it is so common that it has become a new normal. So you may feel like you have "lost" by getting treated badly due the height and weight factors, but I wouldn't be surprised if you did end up in a much better postion in life than they are now (ie. them being single mothers or in toxic relationships). What I've learned in life is that every rejection is often a blessing because you're spared from all the bullshit that person will bring with them.

[Pejtu]

I agree women judge men on everything. We can do that too u all feminists fought for equality so if u are asking us such questions we do too , if u are not okay with it then fuck off with your feminism these days

If i say im 6'2 and she is above 160 pounds thats a NO for me

[Asker]

Feminists are a joke

[Pejtu]

Agree

[hahahmm]

Because feminism is all about women trying to avoid responsibilities while getting as many benefits from men as possible. A benefit of traditional ways was that guys were not entitled to know her age or weight. Today's modern woman expects to give almost zero but get 100% of traditional benefits from a man. This is why "strong, independent" women whine about guys not giving them gifts, buying them dinner & so on. Those are really benefits of traditional committed relationships or at the very least of courtship. Now women expect them simply because she shows up.

[TheSpaceGnome]

I ask her for her weight, her height (to make her weight relevant/determine if she is obese or not), how many people she has had sex with, if she has any diseases, what her cup size is, what her hobbies are, whether she is scientific or religious, and a ton of other questions.

If she takes issue with any of it, or attempts even a single double standard, I count her as not worth my time.

[Asker]

Most western women get outraged when a man cares about her body count. Lol

[TheSpaceGnome]

Then most western women will end up as single moms 🤷🏻

I'm looking for her answer to be zero.

If her body count so embarrassingly high, that she gets angry just talking about it, shen she's not marriage material.

[TheSpaceGnome]

then*

[JSmuve]

Because women are terribly insecure and solipsistic. They view anything that makes them feel bad as being misogynistic but don't believe they can be misandrist with their comments because they feel entitled to their wants and don't believe that their comments can negatively impact men. And if their comments do impact men, then they view those men as insecure and, ironically, are turned off. It's similar to how some people believe women are allowed to hit men because "she's so small, how could she ever hurt him". Same reasoning.

[ChooChooHaha]

Yes. Double standard, misandry. Men are people too, they bleed red, have feelings, mental health. RIGHT? It's the same shit about height, and holding it against you. I don't understand these people... if you didn't want to date these females cause they're under a 38HH, they'd go running around screaming sexism and misogyny.

Like you said, same shit as abuse til recently, to some degree.

[ChooChooHaha]

SOME are, others are just like: it is what it is.
It makes me think of those people that think/say women are completely pure and less violent than men because they have a vag. We're the same as you guys, if not more, because we'll probably get away with it more, til fairly recently at least. Remember Abu Ghraib? Ever hear of Gina Haspel, Alfreda Bikowsky, Michael Anne Casey? Female Nazis? The nuns that abuse children and turn a blind eye? The guards in prisons? Men in child custody disputes, contested divorce settlements, where the wife before and otherwise had nothing to do with the money the husband owed? What if the wife had all the money?

[Anonymous]

Some of those screenshots are hilarious.

Fat women are often entitled. If they have a bunch of criteria it stops them going on actual dates, and they can keep lying to themselves that the problem is that guys won't date fat girls, and she'll never have to face the fact that her personality is ugly as fuck.

[Asker]

"... the fact that her personality is ugly as fuck."
Among her looks lol

[Staximus]

2 of the girls were five foot nothing (5'1") and worried about how tall the guy is. The one that kills me is "you should message me if 6ft or taller, body fat less than 18%, employed AND ambitious, sense of style, open, honest -And then it says accepting and non-judgemental at the end hahaha.

Before all my friends got married and had kids, we would go out to the bars a lot. A few of them are about 6'4"-6'6" tall and I'm only about 5'6". When I would go out with them, I looked like the coach of a fucking basketball team. The girls were all too busy gawking at my tall friends to even notice me, except for the smart ones; and you don't find too many smart ones at the neighborhood dive bars.

[Asker]

Yeah. That woman is dense.
Non judgmental. Lol

[Sarahr123]

I’m 46KGs and my measurements are 32DD-23-34 (34-23-34 without bra size) and I have no problem disclosing that information to any boys but I wish more would ask. The ones who notice are the ones who impress me and the ones who just give generic compliments bore me.

[Aakash_Hangargi]

That's because you are almost perfect

[Aakash_Hangargi]

Let's say if you were 60 kgs let's say. Just imagine if you were 34-34-34 and cylindrical would say that this scenario maybe horrific for you though

[YollyM]

If they wanted to get even, they could ask for her height. Weight and height are obviously not the same.

That would be like saying why are girls not allowed to ask how much a guy makes after he asks if she can cook. Those two things are not the same , as much as they may have some correlation to some people.

Some girls are conservative when it comes to their weight for specific reasons that might not make sense to most but should be respected. If guys feel like asking for their height is intrusive they can just say that they don't want to share that. Girls can do that too if they wanted.

But honestly speaking I think anyone can gauge how much a person weights as well as his/her height and not be too far-off.
We all need to stop asking people questions that they feel uneasy answering.

[elizalikesberies]

I personally wouldn't ask even though I'm not insecure with my weight. If I was as insecure about my weight as these girls, I def would not ask. I feel like nobody should ask questions like that but if one person asks it first then ask them something too.

[Hairylegs222]

Hilarious reading those 😂😂😂. I've never in my life asked a woman that question. What usually happens with me is she reveals her weight to me after being comfortable. I don't care what the number is because I already chose to talk to her because I already find her attractive. Her body type is more important to me then what the scale says.

Just from reading those responses, it looks like some women are sensitive about their weight. I get asked how tall I am every time, then I ask how tall she is. But never ask her weight lol.

[Avicenna]

I don't see the point in deliberately antagonizing someone with comebacks like that. It's a general question and not offensive. If it indicates that a woman is shallow, a guy can take that into account when he decides whether to continue to get to know her.

[Asker]

They deserve savage comebacks

[Avicenna]

Asking my height isn't some insulting thing.

[Asker]

Then asking her weight and body count is ok too

[Avicenna]

I don't even ask about those things.

[TruthBringer]

I have to disagree. Often these things are being asked in bad faith. It is one to ask for being curious and another to ask in order to reject someone. Don't forget, these screenshots are taken from online dating apps/sites. And these are notorious places for women to seek superficiality and satisfy their narcissism. And you can tell they got narcissistic tendencies when they get mad when their tactic is being used against them. Which in this case is to reduce a person to only their weight as they do to men with their height.

[Avicenna]

@TruthBringer: If you've sized someone up to be that already, I wouldn't waste more time on them.
I'm someone who prefers tall women, so maybe that's why I don't care if my height is asked.

[TruthBringer]

@Avicenna It's not about our perception and preference. It's about the intentions of the other person. If I was asked about my height within the first minutes of interaction, then I already know what kind of a person she is. But before discarding them, I would give them a taste of their own medicine and see them get mad at the very game they chose to play

[CasaNorba]

damn for once I disagree with you on something.

anyways it really does make you arrogant and narcissist if you think its fair to ask someone they're dating their height but its suddenly offensive if they ask you about your weight in return. this is a huge double standard

also. do remember that you can actually change your weight via exercising and dieting while you literally can't do shit about your height.

[Asker]

I said "Then asking her weight and body count is ok too"
You replied "I don't even ask about those things."

I didn't ask if you ask those things. I said "asking her weight and body count is ok too"

[Sonorous]

Entitlement.

They consider their intrinsic value to be high while they consider a man's intrinsic value to be low. So from their perspective, the man must be the one to submit. He must be the one to sacrifice his desires & lower his expectations to meet current reality.

And many men will submit to get laid. Which sucks because the best way to get those women to act differently is to ignore the ones who act like that. But it would have to be consistent enough.

[Asker]

True. Hot men should reject those women

[Sonorous]

Tbh if the man is hot enough, I wonder if they'd even be that way toward him 🤔 because they might see his intrinsic value as being very high due to his looks

[Asker]

They would if he rejected.

[Sonorous]

Ahhh that is interesting 🤔 Tbh nowadays I wouldn't be surprised considering how many options the average woman has

[Autember]

"Body fat less than 18%"... uhhh a healthy woman is typically between 20-35% body fat. So that's an issue...

But on topic. I dont think asking for weight should matter. I'll tell whoever. Weight is just a number and if you judge me on it then that's on you!

[intertwinedramen]

Health is way more than just a number Missy c: the range of health complications that stems or is intensified by being overweight (which I am to be clear) is outreaching and limiting.
How healthy a person is comes clearly in the priorities when mating.
And weight is mainly the result of consistently poor life choices, ofc we must have a lot of compassion for those who are chronically disadvantaged but for most of us weight is something that we can and should treat responsibly.
Again I am overweight and lead a somewhat unhealthy lifestyle, it's best if you wish I will do better too.

[Autember]

Weight IS a number. I agree health is important but that number can be very irrelevant. Someone hears 200 pounds and immediately thinks someone is obese and unhealthy when that may not be the case. I never said you shouldn't want a healthy fit partner but "weight" will not determine that fact.

[Smashingdoozy]

If I ask someone's height I'm just imagining where I would stand next to them. Nothing to do with preference. Asking a persons weight can be a very triggering topic, not to mention it fluctuates so much especially in women. Also asking it like these people have is just a punch back because for some reason they got offended. It's not like they actually wanted to know their weight they just felt like being a dick.

[Birdlegs]

How is asking for someone’s weight triggering? I thought that was the whole point of body positivity.

[Smashingdoozy]

@Birdlegs uh no. Body positivity isn't about weight. It's the exact opposite of body positivity. Many people struggle with their weight, and how they look, many have illnesses related to their weight. Not something you should bring up without the person inviting the conversation.

[Birdlegs]

Then how come it’s just a bunch of fat women trying to preach about their (for lack of a better word) fatness? It seems to be very intertwined with weight l. The whole point is to be comfortable in your body no matter the size right? There’s no reason to get triggered if you’re confident 🦧

[Smashingdoozy]

@Birdlegs body positivity is about acceptance of bodies of all types. Doesn't have to be larger bodies specifically. It's a movement to stop stupid unecessary comments and to also broaden the clothing variety for everyone. Kinda shit that if you're on either end of the scale nice clothes just don't exist for you.

Plus, not everyone is confident in their body. Just because there is such thing as body positivity doesn't mean everyone has it.
Way to miss the point of my comment though.

[Asker]

It is ok to ask her weight because most of the time it shows how unattractive or attractive you are.

[Smashingdoozy]

A persons weight ≠ attractive...

[Asker]

To you. To many people overweight is equal to unattractive

[Guy__]

Nobody gets obese overnight. That means "body positivity" encourages fat gain.
And if they judge you for 10 little fluctuating pounds, aren't you glad they showed it early? In your words they should be picky dicks but not say anything and be with someone they dislike?

[Smashingdoozy]

A persons weight doesn't always show if they are overweight or not.

[Smashingdoozy]

@Guy__ nobody said weight gain happens overnight body positivity isn't fat acceptance. Everyone understands that being overweight can be unhealthy but the point is you have no idea what these people you view as overweight eat, are doing to change that, you don't know what medical conditions they may have, therefore who are you to judge them? Someone else's weight is none of your business unless THEY talk about it with you and ASK YOU for your opinion. Why are overweight people unworthy of love and acceptance? That's fucked up.

[Guy__]

That's what I mean. Why would anyone even be afraid of saying it then? are they all 300lb or what? I think most men are smart enough to consider the fluctuation and everything.

[Smashingdoozy]

@Guy__ it's fine to ask if they brought it up. Because again you don't know their life. You don't know what kind of relationship they have with their body. This isn't just women. Eating disorders are very prevalent in men too. They just don't seek help for them.

[Birdlegs]

A persons weight obviously shows if they’re overweight or not. If a 5 foot woman is 200 pounds she’s clearly overweight. If a 6’5 male body builder is 350 pounds he’s still overweight.

[Smashingdoozy]

@Birdlegs but it doesn't matter and it's still rude to ask.

[Guy__]

no it isn't, even asking for height is more rude. This is so silly let's not debate it anymore.

[Smashingdoozy]

@Guy__ I'm not saying asking for height isn't rude. More so if you're doing it in a self absorbed I only like tall people way.

[1GoldTwins]

That is actually pretty messed up if you think about it. Height is okay but they can't change their height, but we can alter our weight but it's not okay to talk about that. I haven't thought about it.

I personally have no problem with the question. I never really thought about it. We're weird when it comes to what's socially acceptable and what isn't.

[MCheetah]

Not just that, but women WILL ghost you if you're not tall enough (6 feet+). You want to know why guys are willing to "be rude" to women after such a question? Because if the guy is short, he has nothing left to lose anyway. He either lies to her and tells her he's six feet, wait to get ghosted, or ask her the same rude and shallow questions to see if she likes it. There's nothing to lose.

[1GoldTwins]

@MCheetah I'm too scared to ask guys that now. When I would ask it would just be curiosity, not checking a box on my wishlist. It's not viewed the same in the eyes of you guys.

[MCheetah]

@1GoldTwins
Yeah, cause evidence shows, women REALLY f*ckin' care about height, and if you're not tall enough, you get this: https://imgur.com/a/8TJan

[1GoldTwins]

@MCheetah You only get that when facing superficial people! Remember! Even if you had that height, would you really want a woman who thinks like that?

[MCheetah]

Guys over six feet at least get laid, though...

The only reason short men even still exist is because of environmental failures when growing up. Not enough sleep, not enough cardio, bad dieting, stress, depression, obesity, etc. If height was purely genetic, we would've all gone extinct by now, solely due to Darwinism. Then again, since the average height for Western men used to be 5'6"/167 cm, I guess we kinda do go extinct, every few generations. Until the formerly "tall" (6'0"/183) becomes the new "average," which makes it the same thing as "short/not good enough."

One could argue shallow women are jus Darwinism in action.. Except Jeff Bezos and Mark Zuckerberg are both under 5'8". And Bill Gates is only 5'11". So that theory doesn't work, does it?

[1GoldTwins]

@MCheetah What do you mean? Plenty of short guys have success in dating!

[MCheetah]

@1GoldTwins
No, not really. 4% of men isn't "plenty." Especially if these short men are all rich and successful.

[1GoldTwins]

@MCheetah I don't believe that for a second!

[Ghostluck]

I'm 6'1, but if a woman is going to ask me my height, I'm going to ask her the weight. There are MANY women who only show face pics and it can be hard to tell if they are over weight or not. It seems big girls have discovered some way to make themselves look thin when they are not. So if she doesn't have a full body pic in there somewhere, I am not responding. Further more, if all their photos are edited or filtered, I don't respond. If you have wrinkles, I want to see them. I will pick a woman with wrinkles over a woman who hides them 100% of the time. Women accuse men of being cat fishers, but let me tell you, 90% of women cat fish like crazy, you see them in real life and they look nothing like they did in their photos.

[ninaneedshelp]

omg yes I've since the fattest girls look skinny due to angles and editing

[Aerissa_Jade]

What does height and weight have to do with anything? Two different questions.

If she can ask him how tall he is, he can ask her how tall she is... that is the apples to apples comparison. Asking weight after height is different.

Now if they are talking about BMI then yes that would be fine, but then ask what is your BMI for your height, etc...

[Asker]

Can a man ask her weight?

[Asker]

Is he not allowed to ask her a different question?
He is supposed to ask only the questions she asks?

[MrOracle]

More specifically, if a woman can ask a question designed to exclude men based on physical characteristics, why can't men?

[Aerissa_Jade]

@MrOracle People can ask whatever they want, but saying someone asks question A means the other can ask question Z, two totally different unrelated questions.

It would be like me saying, how tall are you and he answers then says, are you a virgin? like wtf does that have to do with how tall you are?

They are 100% not related at all, anyone who thinks they are is very ignorant.

I'm not talking about 20 questions either where you both agree to answer 20 questions, whatever they are.

[Aerissa_Jade]

@marish01 A man can ask whatever the fuck he wants, but his question alone may automatically end that conversation and they are done.

I personally would never ask something that wasn't along the lines of the same topic, height to height, weight to weight... so if I asked his weight, he can ask mine or reverse.

Not non of this all over the fucking place shit that only a retard would think is the same thing.

[Asker]

The reason why a woman cares about his height can be the same reason why he can ask her weight.
And telling him that the convo is done is not a threat. A respectable man wouldn't mind ending a convo with a senstive hypocrite.

[Aerissa_Jade]

Why would a woman care about anyone's height, I don't give a shit about a mans height... so what imaginary reason are you making up? No one I know cares about anyone's height either.

Maybe you live in a country full of dwarves so everyone is obsessed about it around here no one gives a fuck.

[Aerissa_Jade]

@MrOracle Technically wouldn't all questions be to exclude someone when getting to know someone?

[MCheetah]

Guys don't care about height. They do care about weight. If women think it's justified to ask a man such a question, then men can do the same. Equality, right? And if they don't want equality, then they would shut up and not ask such questions anyway, such ladies don't act unladylike.

There is no justification for this. But it's funny to read the female comments do mental gymnastics to explain away the blatant double standard anyway.

[MCheetah]

@aerissa_jade
Your logic is like a guy asking a woman a bunch of questions about her menstrual cycle and then going "Well you can ask me about my menstrual cycle too!" Especially knowing the majority of women will reject a guy if he's short/too short for her. You're playing the Liberal "there's no differences between genders" game.

That logic is dumb Jade, and you know it.

[Aerissa_Jade]

@MCheetah Just goes to show I'm not typical and I don't care about height, I never have. As you know my husband is only 5'9 but that is fine by me.

Since I don't care about height, I can't see how that and weight have anything to do with each other. Two totally different questions. I see height to height as the same or weight to weight.

Then again to me personality matters a hundred times more than looks cause for those that live long enough, the looks will fade, people put on weight and even get shorter.

I can totally see someone obsessed with height deciding to divorce her husband then cause he loses a couple inches when he gets older and starts to hunch or a man divorcing her cause she puts on some weight.

I'm don't care about any of that... I care about love and personality the most.

[MCheetah]

Well, 96% of straight women do care about height in a man. A woman asking a man his height is to judge a man and decide if he's worthy or unworthy. If a man does the same to a woman, it's fair play. Just because a woman has different things she cares about, doesn't make it any less rude.

I'm sure I've told you before how many women have shit on me for my own height and being "good enough" in their eyes. As I said in another comment, my first response would be to tell them I'm not going to answer that question. And the second response would be to ask why it matters. If it's that important to them, them I'm going to ask them about their weight, sexual history, menstrual cycle, and anything else that's "important" for a man to know.

[Aerissa_Jade]

@MCheetah and I think your hansom and your height is fine... but I know I'm different too. I'd rather meet someone in person the first time, than play online 20 questions beforehand.

[Asker]

You didn't say why it is fine for a woman to ask his height but not ok for a man to ask her weight?
She starts the body question.

[Aerissa_Jade]

@marish01 Easy, no one goes around stating how much they weight, EVER... people do go around (especially men) bragging or talking about their height thus logically, it is NOT a sensitive issue to ask about height like it is for weight, since clearly men talk about it freely all the time. Even shorter guys will go around stating they are short.

ZERO women ever go around talking about their weight and freely sharing it. Even dating websites are generic in weight terms, slim, athletic, curvy, etc... they stay away from simply entering in a number... YET your suppose to enter in a NUMBER for your height rather than, short, medium or tall. Clearly website programmers get it, where as you do not.

So your comparing apples to oranges again, asking about something that is freely and commonly discussed vs. something that is never is NOT the same fucking thing.

If you can't understand that now, nothing I say is going to, because your too stupid to understand the difference between a apple and a orange.

I'm done with this conversion, have a nice day and am unchecking notifications from this question so I won't even KNOW if you reply to this or not.

[Chazmatazz269]

We’re not disallowed per se. It’s just that the consequences are more severe. It basically boils down to sexual market value. The average woman has more options than the average man. So if she runs one off by being a hypocritical ass, no harm done. There is almost certainly a dozen more awaiting their turn. Whereas, a man who runs off a hypocritical ass likely doesn’t even have one on deck. He accepts a power imbalance or he accepts being alone. Or worse.

[isoterminal2060]

I am 6' 2" tall 1787lbs

[Chazmatazz269]

Hahahaha!!!

[Asker]

The average woman can still get banged by a hot man

[Apple1996]

Weight is a little more sensitive then height. Like a woman could be 100 pounds and be overweight if short or she be 200 pounds and underweight if she's tall. Like height isn't that senstive since nobody is judging if that person is thin or fat based off height. Don't think this is a gender thing just in general.

[JDavid25]

Height is very sensitive for many guys.. Even as a 6'0 guy I was to feel insecure because I wasn't 6'3".. Also Height genetic whereas with dedication, hard work, and consistency weight can and has been lost..

[Apple1996]

@JDavid25 losing or gaining weight isn't always a option for everyone since our bodies are all made differently. And height isn't even something I notice if a guy is insecure that's all in his head cuz most girl don't actually care

[JDavid25]

Losing weight is definitely an option for anybody that can move.. Hell, even if you don't move.. All, it really takes is a calorie deficit.. It's not really super hard to lose weight.. And well most women do care about height, most are just willing to overlook it in some way..

[Apple1996]

@JDavid25 that is not true especially for women it's extremely hard to lose weight. Also extremely hard to gain weight if underweight. And Def not me I'm married to a man that's 5'6 and I don't even think about it most days

[JDavid25]

It's true for women also.. Some light exercise, moderately healthy eating foods to help clean your system out etc.. The hardest thing is for people to stop eating so much if overweight, and to start eating more if underweight.
Men have that problem too.. Ectomorph and Endomorph body types.. And well, most women don't require a man to tower over them, in fact a lot don't even care for it.. But most women want somebody taller than them.. In real life it's not bad, but online it's treacherous..

[Apple1996]

@JDavid25 def agree with that. Online is a total different world especially for dating. I feel bad for those who online date cuz in person it's a much better experiences

[JDavid25]

Yeah online will never beat the genuinely thrill meeting somebody in real life..

[JDavid25]

Genuine**

[SomeGuyCalledTom]

She makes his height a sensitive issue when it's implied she's judging his sexual value based off his response.

[Vegasrunner]

@Apple1996 Weight is something that can be controlled height isn't. wouldn't it make more sense for someone to be more sensitive about their height vs weight? And this is clearly a gender thing did we just read the same post?

[Apple1996]

@Vegasrunner weight cannot be controlled

[Vegasrunner]

@Apple1996 Lol, why do you believe weight can't be controlled?

[Apple1996]

@Vegasrunner cuz some people seriously can't. I just asked a question about weight and some people are overweight and others are underweight and have tried to fix themselves to be a normal weight but it's next to impossible for them it's just how their bodies are

[Vegasrunner]

@Apple1996 Whats the percentage of people that can control their height?

[Asker]

If weight is that sensitive to some women then those women should stop heightshaming men.

[Apple1996]

From what I've seen it's usually the very fit women shaming men for height

[TruthBringer]

"weight cannot be controlled"
Still preaching that utter nonesense, eh? Weight for the majority of people is ABSOLUTELY something they can control. Stop shoving burgers down your throat and get on a treadmill. Funny enough, these aren't my words. These are the word of a dude at my gym who went from obese to 15% bodyfat while gained lean muscle. I was shocked and extremely impressed to see his before pictures and how he is now. If weight truly wasn't something that can be controlled, as you absurdely claim, then the fitness industry wouldn't even exist and far more obese people would be walking around.

Claiming weight cannot be controlled is just a lazy excuse to remain in the comfort zone by a self-defeating bum.

[Asker]

"Like a woman could be 100 pounds and be overweight if short"
Lmao. How short a woman must be for being overweight if she is only 100 pounds?

[TruthBringer]

@marish01 Yeah not the first time she makes these exaggerated claims. All to escape personal accountability

[Apple1996]

I'm 4'10 and close to that weight and considered over weight so definitely possible

[Apple1996]

@TruthBringer not trying to escape anything. I don't need to be fit I'm pregnant

[Asker]

How many cm is that?

[TruthBringer]

@marish01 147 cm

@Apple1996 Pregnant women must definitely maintain their fitness if they want to remain healthy. And if not during pregnancy, then after. Go ahead and keep making excuses for yourself.

[Apple1996]

@TruthBringer I'm perfectly healthy right now

[TruthBringer]

@Apple1996 People can be healthy and overweight. At least until a point. But often people who are overweight aren't healthy. Also, your unorginal excuse of using pregnancy also isn't really viable to try to prove that people cannot control their weight. But since you like to use that excuse, let's see if it pregnant women shouldn't exercise. A very quick Google search gave me iver 1.6 billion results and the top ones contradict you.

"Ideally, pregnant women should get at least 150 minutes of moderate-intensity aerobic activity every week. An aerobic activity is one in which you move large muscles of the body (like those in the legs and arms) in a rhythmic way."
www.acog.org/.../exercise-during-pregnancy

"Exercise is not dangerous for your baby. There is some evidence that active women are less likely to experience problems in later pregnancy and labour."
www.nhs.uk/pregnancy/keeping-well/exercise/

Sorry Apple, but you will only fool yourself with those lame excuses.

[Apple1996]

@TruthBringer I didn't say that I don't workout. All I said is that I'm still healthy even tho I'm overweight and I'm pregnant so being overweight isn't even a thing considering thats my baby weight to grow my child

[Asker]

Then why did you say you're overweight?

[Apple1996]

Cuz I am technically overweight by 2 pounds

[Asker]

But you are pregnant

[Apple1996]

It's not something I care about considering that I'm breastfeeding one baby and growing another being pregnant

[TruthBringer]

@Apple1996 Lets take a look back:

you: "I don't need to be fit when I'm pregnant"
First of all, depends on your definition of being "fit". No you don't need to look like an instagram model. But fit within the context of dicussing the topic of being overweight means not overweight. And you're basically putting the narrative that pregnant women don't have to be fit. When clearly, science and many sources say that pregnant women SHOULD try and be fit (aka taking care of their weight and health by exercising). We all should keep an eye on our weight and health. Including pregnant women.

" I'm pregnant so being overweight isn't even a thing considering thats my baby weight to grow my child"

Dear Lord. Nobody was talking about the weight like of the baby itself. We are talking about YOUR weight. As in your own fat. Newsflash, Apple: Women who are pregnant can still be overweight by their own weight. And fat women can still be pregnant.

Here is another simple Google search that lead me to the following:

"Having a high BMI during pregnancy increases the risk of various pregnancy complications, including: Miscarriage, stillbirth and recurrent miscarriage. Gestational diabetes."
www.mayoclinic.org/.../art-20044409

"Being overweight or obese during pregnancy can cause problems for you and your baby."
www.marchofdimes.org/.../...-during-pregnancy.aspx

[TruthBringer]

@Apple1996 The point here isn't whether you are pregnant and breastfeeding another child at the same time. The point here is that you're making statements that are baseless and completely false. Like when you claim that pregnant women don't have to work out (invalid & debunked) and that weight cannot be controlled (also invaled & debunked). But of course, your ego doesn't let you admit the obvious wrong in your thinking. Even in the presence of sources.

[Apple1996]

@TruthBringer moms need to gain 25-35 pounds while pregnant. Only about 6-8 of that is the baby. The rest stays on the mom to provide for the baby and to build fat for breastfeeding after. I have no problem with my weight, neither does my doc so I'm completely healthy and fine. If I lost that weight it could be risky for the baby. My doctors only want to see my gain from this point on

[Asker]

Lol how are you overweight when you are 100 pounds and PREGNANT?

[Apple1996]

@marish01 I know the bmi is not accurate for extreme short people or extremely tall people and also being pregnant throws in a different side but according to bmi I am overweight. That's just how it is unfortunately

[Apple1996]

I'm really 125. If I lost 2 pounds I wouldn't be overweight

[Asker]

Is that overweight for a PREGNANT WOMAN of your HEIGHT?

[TruthBringer]

@Apple1996 Great that you're healthy and I hope it stays that way. And if you have to maintain the current weight for the sake of your baby, then that's definitely what you should do indeed. Once again, the whole discussion isn't about you, but rather the STATEMENTS you're making. The statements you're applying to the general public that is. Also, fitness for pregnant woman specifically isn't designed for them to lose weight. It makes sure they maintain healthy weight and not regress into becoming unhealthy. Even for pregnant women, having movement is far better than not having movement. This rule applies to everyone.

[Apple1996]

@TruthBringer pregnant women can't maintain weight. They have to gain weight to have a healthy baby. If a woman maintains weight they will put her on bedrest with a feeding tube. I almost had to do that with one of my pregnancies cuz I didn't gain weight at the end like I needed to

[Asker]

That is why when telling what weight is healthy, height and the pregnancy factors are being considered.
I don't know why you even brought up your pregnancy. Weight questions were not about pregnant women.

[TruthBringer]

@Apple1996 I thought I made myself clear that we're not discussing weight of the baby or weight that comes with pregnancy naturally. We're speaking of regressing into a less than ideal state for pregnant women. Which is remaining idle, when working out, as the sources I've sent you, tell that it is important even for pregnant women to work out.

It's you who brought pregnancy into the equation of working out, in the first place. Fitness and weight is different for pregnant women. We all know that. Again, it's about the STATEMENTS you made that you tried to reinforce by 'pregnancy'. When in reality they are incorrect. And your initial statement was that weight cannot be controlled. Meaning, you also speak for peopel who aren't pregnant. Which is completely false.

[TruthBringer]

@marish01 By her using pregnancy in the topic of weight, she resorted to a red herring logical fallacy. This means she is trying to distract people from the real issue.

[Apple1996]

Because @TruthBringer saying I like to make excuses. Being pregnant is not a excuse I seriously cannot control my weight even if I wanted to. That is out of my control

[Apple1996]

@TruthBringer I'm speaking for everyone since other people have different issues where they can't control their weight. For me it's pregnancy. Everyone else having trouble has different things that I don't know so would be impossible to sit here and talk about since that's not my experience

[TruthBringer]

@Apple1996

"Because @TruthBringer saying I like to make excuses. Being pregnant is not a excuse I seriously cannot control my weight even if I wanted to. That is out of my control"

No missy. You weren't discussing pregnancy when you made your GENERAL STATEMENT, that applies to the general public. You didn't mention pregnancy when you mentioned that weight cannot be controlled. Under the topic that does NOT discuss pregnancy. You using pregnancy is a scapegoat whenever someone counters your argument. Don't make general statements next time. Make sure you mention your pregnacy before you cause confusion or backtrack on your initial statement.

[Apple1996]

@TruthBringer your the one storming in on my comment trying to pull down a pregnant woman like it's unnecessary on all levels. You didn't have to comment towards me if you didn't want to hear about it back

[TruthBringer]

@Apple1996

" I'm speaking for everyone since other people have different issues where they can't control their weight"

You don't get to talk on behalf of others when you use your pregnancy as a reason to reinforce a general statement you've made. There is a false equivalence between your statement and the arguments you provide. Over 70 million people in the US alone are obese. But according to you, 70 million people cannot control their weight. That's utter bullshit. Especially since doctors tell their overweight/obese patients to stop eating crap and start exercising. You can stop with the gas lighting now.

"your the one storming in on my comment trying to pull down a pregnant woman like it's unnecessary on all levels. You didn't have to comment towards me if you didn't want to hear about it back"

Wow, really? Are you seriously accusing me of this? How am I trying to pull you down, eh? You made a statement and I countered it. On an OPEN FORUM. Just because you don't like it when people disagree with you, and go out of their way to debunk your statements, doesn't give you the right to paint them as some bad guy. So you can stop playing victim. Nobody here is insulting you. People here are disagreeing with you and participate in a discussion. If you don't like to hear counter-arguments, then get off of open forums.

[Apple1996]

@TruthBringer other people aren't coming at me on a personal level so I have no problem with them. And I wasn't only talking about overweight people. I've mentioned underweight people multiple times. Weight struggles aren't always about being over weight.

[TruthBringer]

@Apple1996 How did I come at you at a personal level? Because you've made it awfully personal yourself by bringing your pregnancy, height and weight into the equation. When all I did was counter your general statements and told you that these statements make it seem like you're making excuses that aren't viable. It's not like I insulted you personally or trying to make you feel bad on purpose.

Yes weight struggles isn't about being overweight, but the majority of the time, it is. Hence why it is more broadly talked about. Even underweight struggles like annorexia is something that can be controlled. Hence why there are professionals who can give these people therapy.

[hyperben]

its a weird one! I've never met a girl who directly asked my height but it would be hard not to make assumptions about her personality based upon her questions.

I dont really get the importance of height to women, i can sort of understand a tall girl wanting a tall guy but why someone 5'1" needs a 6'2" guy is beyond me!

[Asker]

That looks unattractive.
5'1 and 6'2

[Lynn2001]

“Ill judge people for things they can’t control but I’ll be DAMNED if you judge somebody for weight they can lose” I’m not against fat people, just pointing out a close minded thought people clearly have.

[Mangospacho]

It’s entitlement. In these cases, one person thinks you’re the one who has to impress them and they don’t dare answer qualifying questions that could lead to you rejecting them. But it is funny that these people thought it was perfectly fine asking how tall someone is and eliminating all guys below a certain height when they were greatly insulted when the guy was doing the same thing. 🤣

[Berethor]

That's feminism, women are allowed to be picky, while men don't.

[Asker]

And shame men

[20yearsolder]

I'm allowed to ask anything I want, she gets offended by that question that's her problem.

[20yearsolder]

I also understand that typically you don't ask a female what you weigh. If she asked me how tall I was, I probably wouldn't follow up her question with what Do you weigh?

[20yearsolder]

Replying to your update, I really don't care how many men she has had sex with as long as she's clean

[DavidRaul]

Yeah i saw that on different bio's on different dating apps. I don't even care to swipe right to these hypocrites. Most of the time they lie about their weight. They shouldn't. I don't care how much you weigh, if you are overweight, i am gonna motivate you to loose that extra fat so that you can stay healthy. Its never about the fat, its about being healthy. You are fat cause you are lazy and can't get sh*t done. This implies to both men and women.

[AviatorTom]

Guys can ask whatever question they want... and girls have the right to decline to answer. Overall, women are more self-conscious about their weight than men are about their height, which is why most women prefer not to reveal their weight. I suppose they might answer the question if worded differently... "Are you skinny, average, or fat?"

[Reaper1985]

similar reason why the modern body positivity movement pushes any female body type can be a bikini body regardless of how she looks. yet when their asked if any male body type can be a speedo body regardless of how he looks they take offence from it.

[crmoore]

I think I agree with the point of this post but to be clear I don't think it's condemnable for women to have height preferences or to ask about it. But it is hypocritical for them to oppose questions like "how much do you weigh." Both of these questions should be acceptable. Having preferences isn't wrong.

[Asker]

As long as they don't bodyshame

[crmoore]

Agreed

[Blueeyes81]

Look at these ladies be like but... but... but... but... it's not the same.

It is terms of what the opposite sex finds attractive. Ladies want to rule out short men and men want to rule out "curvy" aka "Thic" aka "a few extra pounds" aka overweight.

[Asker]

Ladies?

[Blueeyes81]

The women of gag saying asking height is not the equivalent of asking weight.

[Asker]

And how is asking height more polite than asking weight?

[Blueeyes81]

Its not. The point I was making which was evidently not made was its the same thing. It's ridiculous to ask a question to determine if someone. is of your preference then get pissed when they do the same.

[TheUniqueOne96]

I think society or misandrists like to push the idea that women are perfect to the point where men have to accept them no matter what, whilst men simply have to be a certain way to get considered.

It's a blatant double standard.

[Asker]

Exactly. And those misandrists worship women

[TheUniqueOne96]

Probably. Nice to see a woman not be afraid to call out the BS too. 😁

[Yeetboi__]

Imma get em mad..

At the end of the night, we're gonna see the stomach fall out when the pants come off, if they aren't already posted online...

And we're gonna see that, that wonder bra really did wonders when they go from watermelons to mosquito bites.

Insecurities, but Imma break that barrier on this site... BEST BELIEVE.

[Asker]

You nailed it.
You forgot the wonders makeup does

[Anonymous]

Because women like to play the game by their rules. Their rules being that I can change them rules when I want. I’m supposed to be a gentleman, be old fashioned, open the door, pull out the chair for her while she continues to be Ms Independent.

[Fuentes]

LOLOLOL!!! I should start doing this such a great way to make people mad on these apps even though I am 6'2 just gonna start denying women who ask height if I'm not even interested in smashing them.

[SmokinAces2000]

I don’t ask women how much they weigh because I can see if I’m attracted to them before I even talk to them so their weight isn’t going to make a difference but I also believe that if a woman is attracted to a guy their height shouldn’t make a difference if they can see them before they talk to them

[HippieVeganJewslim]

‘I only date tall guys’? That ain’t as biased as having a preference on weight for women? I’m 168cm, or 5’6”. Won’t Y’all date me, since I’m too short? Women tend to be overcautious on their weight. I reckon that they hold the notion that skinny is pretty or whatever. I get offended when said I’m ‘so skinny.’ However, ladies, if You want to lose weight, go to the Moon, and You’ll lose 80% of Your weight. Problem solved!

[Sirenboobzilla]

Good question. I'll gladly tell people I'm always between 140 and 150

[HighValue]

I'm 6' All fat women are disqualified. I never had casual sex. All promiscuous women are disqualified. That's fair.

[Guanfei]

Because women can have high standards (which they now call "bare minimum") but men have to accept everything, any type of body, and flaw, any attitude.
Truth is, those women don't want a boyfriend. They want a lapdog. A submissive and obedient guy who will accept anything, even the unacceptable.

[MAC1983]

I know a lot of men with crazy high standards that have to do with the 1 to 10 rating or something as random as hair colour or clothing.

I don't think that you're being objective. Are there women out there using men? Sure. Are there men out there using women. Equally certain.

Assuming every member of a gender is this or that is a useless generalistion. It would contribute more to share some experiences.

But that's just my opinion and a suggestion. You're entitled to yours, and that's what this app is about.

[Anonymous]

I don't think people understand how depressing this attitude is for guys who are genuinely short and there's nothing they can do about it. Women say short men should just die and sadly, that's what actually happens and when they do, it's alone.

[Vesuvius87]

I guess I just had bad luck. I'm 5'7 and one of the most cruel narcissistic man whom I ever crossed path with was just 5'8... only an inch taller than me.
He used to brag about everything about himself, as if he wasn't happy or something. Everything was about how great sex was with his ex boyfriend, how he once dated a very tall girl, how he made friends easily, how he's so great and almost perfect, etc.

[IceCreamSandwich]

Because you have to ask before 🤡. It's in poor taste to ask immediately after. Like when someone says women suffer and your immediate response is "men suffer too" but you never mention it in any other context.

[Anonymous]

Those are hilarious, though honestly--a bit too funny to be believable as real.

[Asker]

I believe they are real. I have chatted with worse women than that

[Opinion Owner]

That's insane! lol! The women you've chatted with--where did you find them and what did they say?

[Opinion Owner]

@update: I think for the most part, you'll find that guys don't really care much at ALL about a girl's height. Most of us can find girls hot from 5'0 to 6' and probably even outside that range.

[AsaKyo]

These screenshots made my day lmao

[Asker]

I chose the best oned

[Asker]

Ones

[kao118]

because sometimes women ask how tall are you because theyre curious (not always) but not all of them are actually really nice... but sometimes tall women weigh a lot (bmi) ie i'm 5'7 but 57kgs so it might be an insecurity thing

[MCheetah]

Even if they're "just curious" it doesn't change the fact women think men shouldn't be allowed to ask them certain questions.

I, for example, don't like being short, so try to never mention it on a dating profile. And if they ask me, I'll tell them I'd rather not say. And if they don't drop it after that and still keep asking (which is clearly rude), then I'll start asking them "personal" questions, like "how many dicks have you had in you?" since they clearly don't know what boundaries are or how to respect them.

I believe in Gender Equality.

[Asker]

Those women ask because they love tall guys. Just read the convos above.
A man can ask her weight because he is curious if she is attractive or not

[dustybiker]

You ask personal questions you should expect them in return. Respect is earned, even in the beginning with basic Q’s.

[JDavid25]

These are funny.. But eh just go old double standards.. Nothing new..

[Haha456]

why is it more socially acceptable for 40 yr old men to be dating 18 yr old girls than a 40 yr old woman dating a 18 yr old boy?

[Haha456]

why do men get to sleep around and get praised for it? a woman sleeps around and she gets shamed a whore.

[Asker]

Do you think praising a woman for sleeping around makes sense? Is that an accomplishment?

[Haha456]

@marish01

if you want equality, why do you praise men for sleeping around while shaming women for doing the same thing?

[Asker]

First of all I don't praise.
Second of all answer my question

[Haha456]

@marish01

you didn't answer my question.

[Haha456]

why is it more socially acceptable for 40 yr old men to be dating 18 yr old girls than a 40 yr old woman dating a 18 yr old boy?

[Haha456]

@marish01

you don't want to marry a virgin man but you shame women who are non virgins.

[MAC1983]

(Just to step in a little) Whether it's an accomplishment or not, the gender shouldn't weigh in the decision.)

[Haha456]

@MAC1983

fact of the matter is, men judge women off of age and looks far more than women judge men on height.

[Haha456]

@MAC1983

why can't I only date men at least 5'10'' or taller if men only want to date women 10 years younger?

[MAC1983]

@Haha456
I don't understand - of course you can have your own preferences. I wrote nothing about that. 🤷🏻‍♂️

However, you're generalising too. Not all men want women a decade younger than them. (If in doubt, watch the film "Mrs. Robinson". 😇)

[Haha456]

@MAC1983

if you've been on GAG long enough, you won't find an end to the number of men who talk down on older women.

[MAC1983]

There's a problem with trolls on GaG, but a lot of normal people too. Ignore, and report trolls, if you want.

There are a lot of cool older women and men here too, by the way.

Ignore the stupid and don't take things too personally. Specially when they generalise...

[Haha456]

@MAC1983

thanks for being the first decent guy on here.

[DoctorSex]

@haha456 because. A 40 year old woman has no intentions to look after an 18 year old boy long term. She cannot manage him spiritually, psychologically or emotionally.
What can you offer him long term? Safety? Men embrace danger. Financial support? A man is one who stands on his own two feet.

It's not society stopping young boys from being with older women. Young boys are the ones running away once they get a little sense.
Apologies for the bluntness of my realist argument
Kind regards,
DoctorSex

[DoctorSex]

Can I lastly sympathize with the emotional and psychological implications of men's choice. I can only imagine as an older woman how hurtful it must feel to no longer feel valuable in the eyes of men. Most men is not all men. MyTake about the 3 traits of a valuable woman is all you need to set you apart from women in your age bracket.

However, one cannot change what is human nature. A woman will always want a strong confident guy who is a good communicator. Most women want a provider. The majority of men understand and accept this evolutionary nature. I think it would serve you best to not hate human biology but take responsibility for your own attractivity to the opposite sex. The river Nile will always flow one way, no point trying to fight the flow.

Kind regards,

DoctorSex

[Haha456]

@DoctorSex

So what? A 40 yr old man dating an 18 yr old girl is like dating a child. What does a 40 yr old man have in common with a 18 yr old kid who still lives with mommy and daddy and has never held a job?

Its not about what men see older women as less valuable. Its more about what you see as valuable versus what you can get. As men age, they get less attractive, less valuable, girls call them more "creepy". Just because a 45 yr old man wants a 21 yr old girl , it doesn't mean he can get her. By the time i am 45 years old, i wouldn't be attracted to 50 yr old men either but its unlikely i can score a 30 yr old at that age

And not all men are shallow perverts looking to date kids they have absolutely nothing in common with. They want a woman with a certain level of maturity and life experience they can relate with.

[Haha456]

@DoctorSex

[However, one cannot change what is human nature. A woman will always want a strong confident guy who is a good communicator. Most women want a provider. The majority of men understand and accept this evolutionary nature. I think it would serve you best to not hate human biology but take responsibility for your own attractivity to the opposite sex. The river Nile will always flow one way, no point trying to fight the flow.]

It really does not prove why a 40 yr old woman should be shamed for dating an 18 yr old boy. Love and romance defeats financial stability or age.

[Haha456]

@DoctorSex

You keep talking about older women not being valuable, what makes you think i am more attracted to men as they get fatter, wrinklier , saggier, lose hair , saggy balls, erectile dysfunction.

You need to keep in mind, your value declines as you age too.

[DoctorSex]

@haha456 lol my dear, you didn't even try to tackle any of my points though I layed them out clearly. Deflecting isn't a Respectful way to dialogue so god bless you.

Kind regards,
DoctorSex

[Asker]

I don't shame women for being non virgins.
Non virgins are bot necessarily sluts

[Haha456]

@DoctorSex

I have tackled your points. And its pretty obvious your points are just weak excuses and can't prove why its 40 yr old women should not be dating younger men. And quite honestly, it seems like you're jealous about older women wanting younger men.

[Haha456]

@DoctorSex

There was nothing respectful about your dialogue either. Making sexist excuses about how older women should be shamed for wanting younger men. Attraction is attraction.

[Haha456]

@marish01

I spoke to you on here long time ago. There was a point you told me you prefer to marry a non virgin while you shamed non virgin women

But i dont give a shit about your question. Because if men only want to date women 15 years younger, why can't i date a guy at least 5'10? People want what they want.

[Asker]

Date. No one stops you.
I might have shamed sluts not non virgin women who are in committed relationships.

[Haha456]

@marish01

I have only seen you shame women on here but not men. I have known you long time

[DoctorSex]

@haha456 oh my dear, one thing I have to credit @marish01 for, is that she doesn't shame or insult simply one gender. She believes in equality in this regards.

She reminds me more of the mean girl in school that most women speak of being bullied by whilst growing up.

Kind regards,
DoctorSex

[Haha456]

@DoctorSex

marish is a misogynist. And the only reason why you're agreeing with her is because you also are a misogynist.

None of the excuses you have listed justifies why 40 yr old women should be shamed for wanting to date a younger man. You're just jealous so you made up some lame excuses. There is no justification for anything you've said. Its just pure bias and sexism.

[LimitedBenefits101]

Funny thing is short guys can't change their height while these landwhales can change their weight whenever they want but chose not to because of LAZINESS and feminist

Feminist promote being landwhale

[loveslongnails]

I'm "allowed" to ask a woman anything I want!

[OlderAndWiser]

Who says we are not allowed?

[Anonymous]

Because women, most women any way, only want equality when it benefits them.. In other words it's only OK when women do it. This is according to feminism.

[Blackcosmo]

I mean why can't they just ask for my height in return or something lol? If they're dating me I'd see no problem with telling them my weight.

[MCheetah]

Because guys don't care about height. We care about weight/body type, women care about height.

[Blackcosmo]

@MCheetah Alright.

[Plinko]

They can't ask because it isn't comparable.
Women can change their weight.
Men can't change their height.
It's a better to ask what size their tits are.

[Subarugirl]

Probably because it's intended to be insulting...

[JDavid25]

More intended to point out that two can play at the shallow game.. "You want a certain height, I want to certain weight"..

[Asker]

Did you not see how women insulted men for being short?

[Fuentes]

@Subarugirl you like being this don't you lol

[Subarugirl]

actually I see that more from men than women, most women couldn't care less about a guys height as long as he's taller than she is.

[Dnc_21]

Subarugirl most women shame short men about their height all the time which they have no control over... and those same women don't like being shamed for their weight which they can change easily... double standards

[Sarahplus2]

It is.

[Subarugirl]

@Dnc_21 do you have an example of that, because the majority of what I've seen here is primarily men just being insecure about their height, take mcheetah for example, he's 5'11 and has managed to convince himself that he's short and that's why women don't like him when really he just has a horrible attitude.

[Dnc_21]

Go on social media you'll see what I'm talking about

[Subarugirl]

@Dnc_21 I am on social media, and most of what I see about height is women complaining about men lying about their height and men complaining about their height...

[Dnc_21]

Yeah right...

[Subarugirl]

@Dnc_21 if you are going to completely disregard the answers that I give you... then maybe you should stop asking questions you don't really want the answers to.

[Dnc_21]

It's just deja vu... I just remembered there's no point arguing with you... my bad

[Subarugirl]

@Dnc_21 not if you keep crying false news every time someone says something you don't agree with.

[Dnc_21]

Fake news? Check TikTok and Instagram... Anyway, I told you to dm me last time around to provide links that support my claims and unsurprisingly you didn't... I can't share links or dm people on here because I'm only level 1

[JDavid25]

@Subarugirl Yeah that's pretty true in real life.. Women are much more forgiving in real life than online..

[Subarugirl]

@JDavid25 its kind of funny when guys use tinder as an example of how things work in real life.

[JDavid25]

True tinder is definitely not real life.. Unfortunately most dating these days are tried through online.. Not many guys go up to women anymore to ask for a date.. Online is pretty treacherous, and kinda depressing too..

[Subarugirl]

@JDavid25 lol that’s like using pornhub to explain what real sex is like …

[JDavid25]

That's actually a decent example.. It's an entirely different reality.. It makes the dating scene look pretty bad for everybody (men and women).. Most

[Fuentes]

@JDavid25 don't agree with her she uses books to relate real ife situations too bro so that's pretty hypocritical of her, to make such a statement.

[insteadfew]

Dear most women have a fetish for 6feet plus tall men... I don't know why

[JDavid25]

@Fuentes Yeah, I can see the p0rn statement being a fairly decent one but at the same time kinda off.. Plus she was in a relationship before tinder took off..

[Fuentes]

@JDavid25 bruh she 25 no she wasn't

[Dnc_21]

@Fuented She's deluded and so biased, never admits she's wrong

[Fuentes]

@Dnc_21 exactly lol I think she likes it. I'm starting to think she's a troll.

[Agagagagaga]

@Dnc_21 I like how she threw Mccheetah under the bus and pointed out his “horrible attitude” completely out of left field. Classy.

[Subarugirl]

@Agagagagaga lol if you wanted classy you wouldn’t be here or on tinder lol

[Agagagagaga]

Why did you bring up Mccheetah when he wasn’t even in the discussion?

Because you wanted to talk shit on him.

You’re not the good person you think you are.

[Fuentes]

@Agagagagaga she brought up @mcheetah cause she doesn't have anyone else to compare in her life because she uses books to make a real life comparison so her only example is a guy she doesn't even know irl to make a comparison. To try to prove her point but it's still not a real life comparison. I'm sure he maybe has her blocked and she's upset by that.

[Subarugirl]

@Agagagagaga it was just an example. He's very outspoken about it which you can see for yourself

[Dnc_21]

It seems like everyone agrees that Subarugirl is full of shit...

[Sarahplus2]

He must be short because if he wasn't he wouldn't care less

[Subarugirl]

@Sarahplus2 lol Im inclined to agree with that assumption

[Dnc_21]

@Subarugirl, isn't that very hypocritical of you to agree with mere assumptions and ask for decisive evidence when things don't fit your own narrative? Oh my...

[Subarugirl]

@Dnc_21 no not really because I already assumed you were shorter than me, and statistically there is a good chance that its true.

[Dnc_21]

Now you're going to resort to height shaming (by which you just proved my point ) because you can't come up with decent arguments anymore...'oh I'm taller than you ' blabla grow up kiddo... I'm 6'1 how can you statistically be taller than me? Desperate loser

[Subarugirl]

@Dnc_21 okay calm down. I’m not shaming. I’m like 6ft and a half so I’m taller than almost everyone, it’s not an insult. If I wanted to shame you I wouldn’t use height as a way to do it lol

[Asker]

What is your leg inseam length?

[Subarugirl]

Depending on the brand 34inches give or take

[Fuentes]

Why did you not play for the WNBA?

[Subarugirl]

@Fuentes Because I was a swimmer, and preferred volleyball to basketball...

[Fuentes]

Hmm you could have done both, and got rich So would you race against Lia Thomas?

[Subarugirl]

@Fuentes I had no desire to become a professional athlete. I had more important things to do.

[Sarahplus2]

I blocked him so I don't see his insults. He asks a question and then cuts everyone down who disagrees. Probably something to do with real life