If I ask someone's height I'm just imagining where I would stand next to them. Nothing to do with preference. Asking a persons weight can be a very triggering topic, not to mention it fluctuates so much especially in women. Also asking it like these people have is just a punch back because for some reason they got offended. It's not like they actually wanted to know their weight they just felt like being a dick.
@Birdlegs uh no. Body positivity isn't about weight. It's the exact opposite of body positivity. Many people struggle with their weight, and how they look, many have illnesses related to their weight. Not something you should bring up without the person inviting the conversation.
Then how come it’s just a bunch of fat women trying to preach about their (for lack of a better word) fatness? It seems to be very intertwined with weight l. The whole point is to be comfortable in your body no matter the size right? There’s no reason to get triggered if you’re confident 🦧
@Birdlegs body positivity is about acceptance of bodies of all types. Doesn't have to be larger bodies specifically. It's a movement to stop stupid unecessary comments and to also broaden the clothing variety for everyone. Kinda shit that if you're on either end of the scale nice clothes just don't exist for you.
Plus, not everyone is confident in their body. Just because there is such thing as body positivity doesn't mean everyone has it. Way to miss the point of my comment though.
Nobody gets obese overnight. That means "body positivity" encourages fat gain. And if they judge you for 10 little fluctuating pounds, aren't you glad they showed it early? In your words they should be picky dicks but not say anything and be with someone they dislike?
@Guy__ nobody said weight gain happens overnight body positivity isn't fat acceptance. Everyone understands that being overweight can be unhealthy but the point is you have no idea what these people you view as overweight eat, are doing to change that, you don't know what medical conditions they may have, therefore who are you to judge them? Someone else's weight is none of your business unless THEY talk about it with you and ASK YOU for your opinion. Why are overweight people unworthy of love and acceptance? That's fucked up.
That's what I mean. Why would anyone even be afraid of saying it then? are they all 300lb or what? I think most men are smart enough to consider the fluctuation and everything.
@Guy__ it's fine to ask if they brought it up. Because again you don't know their life. You don't know what kind of relationship they have with their body. This isn't just women. Eating disorders are very prevalent in men too. They just don't seek help for them.
A persons weight obviously shows if they’re overweight or not. If a 5 foot woman is 200 pounds she’s clearly overweight. If a 6’5 male body builder is 350 pounds he’s still overweight.
That is actually pretty messed up if you think about it. Height is okay but they can't change their height, but we can alter our weight but it's not okay to talk about that. I haven't thought about it.
I personally have no problem with the question. I never really thought about it. We're weird when it comes to what's socially acceptable and what isn't.
Not just that, but women WILL ghost you if you're not tall enough (6 feet+). You want to know why guys are willing to "be rude" to women after such a question? Because if the guy is short, he has nothing left to lose anyway. He either lies to her and tells her he's six feet, wait to get ghosted, or ask her the same rude and shallow questions to see if she likes it. There's nothing to lose.
@MCheetah I'm too scared to ask guys that now. When I would ask it would just be curiosity, not checking a box on my wishlist. It's not viewed the same in the eyes of you guys.
The only reason short men even still exist is because of environmental failures when growing up. Not enough sleep, not enough cardio, bad dieting, stress, depression, obesity, etc. If height was purely genetic, we would've all gone extinct by now, solely due to Darwinism. Then again, since the average height for Western men used to be 5'6"/167 cm, I guess we kinda do go extinct, every few generations. Until the formerly "tall" (6'0"/183) becomes the new "average," which makes it the same thing as "short/not good enough."
One could argue shallow women are jus Darwinism in action.. Except Jeff Bezos and Mark Zuckerberg are both under 5'8". And Bill Gates is only 5'11". So that theory doesn't work, does it?
I'm 6'1, but if a woman is going to ask me my height, I'm going to ask her the weight. There are MANY women who only show face pics and it can be hard to tell if they are over weight or not. It seems big girls have discovered some way to make themselves look thin when they are not. So if she doesn't have a full body pic in there somewhere, I am not responding. Further more, if all their photos are edited or filtered, I don't respond. If you have wrinkles, I want to see them. I will pick a woman with wrinkles over a woman who hides them 100% of the time. Women accuse men of being cat fishers, but let me tell you, 90% of women cat fish like crazy, you see them in real life and they look nothing like they did in their photos.
@MrOracle People can ask whatever they want, but saying someone asks question A means the other can ask question Z, two totally different unrelated questions.
It would be like me saying, how tall are you and he answers then says, are you a virgin? like wtf does that have to do with how tall you are?
They are 100% not related at all, anyone who thinks they are is very ignorant.
I'm not talking about 20 questions either where you both agree to answer 20 questions, whatever they are.
@marish01 A man can ask whatever the fuck he wants, but his question alone may automatically end that conversation and they are done.
I personally would never ask something that wasn't along the lines of the same topic, height to height, weight to weight... so if I asked his weight, he can ask mine or reverse.
Not non of this all over the fucking place shit that only a retard would think is the same thing.
The reason why a woman cares about his height can be the same reason why he can ask her weight. And telling him that the convo is done is not a threat. A respectable man wouldn't mind ending a convo with a senstive hypocrite.
Why would a woman care about anyone's height, I don't give a shit about a mans height... so what imaginary reason are you making up? No one I know cares about anyone's height either.
Maybe you live in a country full of dwarves so everyone is obsessed about it around here no one gives a fuck.
Guys don't care about height. They do care about weight. If women think it's justified to ask a man such a question, then men can do the same. Equality, right? And if they don't want equality, then they would shut up and not ask such questions anyway, such ladies don't act unladylike.
There is no justification for this. But it's funny to read the female comments do mental gymnastics to explain away the blatant double standard anyway.
@Aerissa_Jade Your logic is like a guy asking a woman a bunch of questions about her menstrual cycle and then going "Well you can ask me about my menstrual cycle too!" Especially knowing the majority of women will reject a guy if he's short/too short for her. You're playing the Liberal "there's no differences between genders" game.
@MCheetah Just goes to show I'm not typical and I don't care about height, I never have. As you know my husband is only 5'9 but that is fine by me.
Since I don't care about height, I can't see how that and weight have anything to do with each other. Two totally different questions. I see height to height as the same or weight to weight.
Then again to me personality matters a hundred times more than looks cause for those that live long enough, the looks will fade, people put on weight and even get shorter.
I can totally see someone obsessed with height deciding to divorce her husband then cause he loses a couple inches when he gets older and starts to hunch or a man divorcing her cause she puts on some weight.
I'm don't care about any of that... I care about love and personality the most.
Well, 96% of straight women do care about height in a man. A woman asking a man his height is to judge a man and decide if he's worthy or unworthy. If a man does the same to a woman, it's fair play. Just because a woman has different things she cares about, doesn't make it any less rude.
I'm sure I've told you before how many women have shit on me for my own height and being "good enough" in their eyes. As I said in another comment, my first response would be to tell them I'm not going to answer that question. And the second response would be to ask why it matters. If it's that important to them, them I'm going to ask them about their weight, sexual history, menstrual cycle, and anything else that's "important" for a man to know.
@MCheetah and I think your hansom and your height is fine... but I know I'm different too. I'd rather meet someone in person the first time, than play online 20 questions beforehand.
@marish01 Easy, no one goes around stating how much they weight, EVER... people do go around (especially men) bragging or talking about their height thus logically, it is NOT a sensitive issue to ask about height like it is for weight, since clearly men talk about it freely all the time. Even shorter guys will go around stating they are short.
ZERO women ever go around talking about their weight and freely sharing it. Even dating websites are generic in weight terms, slim, athletic, curvy, etc... they stay away from simply entering in a number... YET your suppose to enter in a NUMBER for your height rather than, short, medium or tall. Clearly website programmers get it, where as you do not.
So your comparing apples to oranges again, asking about something that is freely and commonly discussed vs. something that is never is NOT the same fucking thing.
If you can't understand that now, nothing I say is going to, because your too stupid to understand the difference between a apple and a orange.
I'm done with this conversion, have a nice day and am unchecking notifications from this question so I won't even KNOW if you reply to this or not.
Weight is a little more sensitive then height. Like a woman could be 100 pounds and be overweight if short or she be 200 pounds and underweight if she's tall. Like height isn't that senstive since nobody is judging if that person is thin or fat based off height. Don't think this is a gender thing just in general.
Height is very sensitive for many guys.. Even as a 6'0 guy I was to feel insecure because I wasn't 6'3".. Also Height genetic whereas with dedication, hard work, and consistency weight can and has been lost..
@JDavid25 losing or gaining weight isn't always a option for everyone since our bodies are all made differently. And height isn't even something I notice if a guy is insecure that's all in his head cuz most girl don't actually care
Losing weight is definitely an option for anybody that can move.. Hell, even if you don't move.. All, it really takes is a calorie deficit.. It's not really super hard to lose weight.. And well most women do care about height, most are just willing to overlook it in some way..
@JDavid25 that is not true especially for women it's extremely hard to lose weight. Also extremely hard to gain weight if underweight. And Def not me I'm married to a man that's 5'6 and I don't even think about it most days
It's true for women also.. Some light exercise, moderately healthy eating foods to help clean your system out etc.. The hardest thing is for people to stop eating so much if overweight, and to start eating more if underweight. Men have that problem too.. Ectomorph and Endomorph body types.. And well, most women don't require a man to tower over them, in fact a lot don't even care for it.. But most women want somebody taller than them.. In real life it's not bad, but online it's treacherous..
@JDavid25 def agree with that. Online is a total different world especially for dating. I feel bad for those who online date cuz in person it's a much better experiences
@Apple1996 Weight is something that can be controlled height isn't. wouldn't it make more sense for someone to be more sensitive about their height vs weight? And this is clearly a gender thing did we just read the same post?
@Vegasrunner cuz some people seriously can't. I just asked a question about weight and some people are overweight and others are underweight and have tried to fix themselves to be a normal weight but it's next to impossible for them it's just how their bodies are
"weight cannot be controlled" Still preaching that utter nonesense, eh? Weight for the majority of people is ABSOLUTELY something they can control. Stop shoving burgers down your throat and get on a treadmill. Funny enough, these aren't my words. These are the word of a dude at my gym who went from obese to 15% bodyfat while gained lean muscle. I was shocked and extremely impressed to see his before pictures and how he is now. If weight truly wasn't something that can be controlled, as you absurdely claim, then the fitness industry wouldn't even exist and far more obese people would be walking around.
Claiming weight cannot be controlled is just a lazy excuse to remain in the comfort zone by a self-defeating bum.
@Apple1996 Pregnant women must definitely maintain their fitness if they want to remain healthy. And if not during pregnancy, then after. Go ahead and keep making excuses for yourself.
@Apple1996 People can be healthy and overweight. At least until a point. But often people who are overweight aren't healthy. Also, your unorginal excuse of using pregnancy also isn't really viable to try to prove that people cannot control their weight. But since you like to use that excuse, let's see if it pregnant women shouldn't exercise. A very quick Google search gave me iver 1.6 billion results and the top ones contradict you.
"Ideally, pregnant women should get at least 150 minutes of moderate-intensity aerobic activity every week. An aerobic activity is one in which you move large muscles of the body (like those in the legs and arms) in a rhythmic way." www.acog.org/.../exercise-during-pregnancy
"Exercise is not dangerous for your baby. There is some evidence that active women are less likely to experience problems in later pregnancy and labour." www.nhs.uk/pregnancy/keeping-well/exercise/
Sorry Apple, but you will only fool yourself with those lame excuses.
@TruthBringer I didn't say that I don't workout. All I said is that I'm still healthy even tho I'm overweight and I'm pregnant so being overweight isn't even a thing considering thats my baby weight to grow my child
you: "I don't need to be fit when I'm pregnant" First of all, depends on your definition of being "fit". No you don't need to look like an instagram model. But fit within the context of dicussing the topic of being overweight means not overweight. And you're basically putting the narrative that pregnant women don't have to be fit. When clearly, science and many sources say that pregnant women SHOULD try and be fit (aka taking care of their weight and health by exercising). We all should keep an eye on our weight and health. Including pregnant women.
" I'm pregnant so being overweight isn't even a thing considering thats my baby weight to grow my child"
Dear Lord. Nobody was talking about the weight like of the baby itself. We are talking about YOUR weight. As in your own fat. Newsflash, Apple: Women who are pregnant can still be overweight by their own weight. And fat women can still be pregnant.
Here is another simple Google search that lead me to the following:
"Having a high BMI during pregnancy increases the risk of various pregnancy complications, including: Miscarriage, stillbirth and recurrent miscarriage. Gestational diabetes." www.mayoclinic.org/.../art-20044409
@Apple1996 The point here isn't whether you are pregnant and breastfeeding another child at the same time. The point here is that you're making statements that are baseless and completely false. Like when you claim that pregnant women don't have to work out (invalid & debunked) and that weight cannot be controlled (also invaled & debunked). But of course, your ego doesn't let you admit the obvious wrong in your thinking. Even in the presence of sources.
@TruthBringer moms need to gain 25-35 pounds while pregnant. Only about 6-8 of that is the baby. The rest stays on the mom to provide for the baby and to build fat for breastfeeding after. I have no problem with my weight, neither does my doc so I'm completely healthy and fine. If I lost that weight it could be risky for the baby. My doctors only want to see my gain from this point on
@marish01 I know the bmi is not accurate for extreme short people or extremely tall people and also being pregnant throws in a different side but according to bmi I am overweight. That's just how it is unfortunately
@Apple1996 Great that you're healthy and I hope it stays that way. And if you have to maintain the current weight for the sake of your baby, then that's definitely what you should do indeed. Once again, the whole discussion isn't about you, but rather the STATEMENTS you're making. The statements you're applying to the general public that is. Also, fitness for pregnant woman specifically isn't designed for them to lose weight. It makes sure they maintain healthy weight and not regress into becoming unhealthy. Even for pregnant women, having movement is far better than not having movement. This rule applies to everyone.
@TruthBringer pregnant women can't maintain weight. They have to gain weight to have a healthy baby. If a woman maintains weight they will put her on bedrest with a feeding tube. I almost had to do that with one of my pregnancies cuz I didn't gain weight at the end like I needed to
That is why when telling what weight is healthy, height and the pregnancy factors are being considered. I don't know why you even brought up your pregnancy. Weight questions were not about pregnant women.
@Apple1996 I thought I made myself clear that we're not discussing weight of the baby or weight that comes with pregnancy naturally. We're speaking of regressing into a less than ideal state for pregnant women. Which is remaining idle, when working out, as the sources I've sent you, tell that it is important even for pregnant women to work out.
It's you who brought pregnancy into the equation of working out, in the first place. Fitness and weight is different for pregnant women. We all know that. Again, it's about the STATEMENTS you made that you tried to reinforce by 'pregnancy'. When in reality they are incorrect. And your initial statement was that weight cannot be controlled. Meaning, you also speak for peopel who aren't pregnant. Which is completely false.
@marish01 By her using pregnancy in the topic of weight, she resorted to a red herring logical fallacy. This means she is trying to distract people from the real issue.
Because @TruthBringer saying I like to make excuses. Being pregnant is not a excuse I seriously cannot control my weight even if I wanted to. That is out of my control
@TruthBringer I'm speaking for everyone since other people have different issues where they can't control their weight. For me it's pregnancy. Everyone else having trouble has different things that I don't know so would be impossible to sit here and talk about since that's not my experience
"Because @TruthBringer saying I like to make excuses. Being pregnant is not a excuse I seriously cannot control my weight even if I wanted to. That is out of my control"
No missy. You weren't discussing pregnancy when you made your GENERAL STATEMENT, that applies to the general public. You didn't mention pregnancy when you mentioned that weight cannot be controlled. Under the topic that does NOT discuss pregnancy. You using pregnancy is a scapegoat whenever someone counters your argument. Don't make general statements next time. Make sure you mention your pregnacy before you cause confusion or backtrack on your initial statement.
@TruthBringer your the one storming in on my comment trying to pull down a pregnant woman like it's unnecessary on all levels. You didn't have to comment towards me if you didn't want to hear about it back
" I'm speaking for everyone since other people have different issues where they can't control their weight"
You don't get to talk on behalf of others when you use your pregnancy as a reason to reinforce a general statement you've made. There is a false equivalence between your statement and the arguments you provide. Over 70 million people in the US alone are obese. But according to you, 70 million people cannot control their weight. That's utter bullshit. Especially since doctors tell their overweight/obese patients to stop eating crap and start exercising. You can stop with the gas lighting now.
"your the one storming in on my comment trying to pull down a pregnant woman like it's unnecessary on all levels. You didn't have to comment towards me if you didn't want to hear about it back"
Wow, really? Are you seriously accusing me of this? How am I trying to pull you down, eh? You made a statement and I countered it. On an OPEN FORUM. Just because you don't like it when people disagree with you, and go out of their way to debunk your statements, doesn't give you the right to paint them as some bad guy. So you can stop playing victim. Nobody here is insulting you. People here are disagreeing with you and participate in a discussion. If you don't like to hear counter-arguments, then get off of open forums.
@TruthBringer other people aren't coming at me on a personal level so I have no problem with them. And I wasn't only talking about overweight people. I've mentioned underweight people multiple times. Weight struggles aren't always about being over weight.
@Apple1996 How did I come at you at a personal level? Because you've made it awfully personal yourself by bringing your pregnancy, height and weight into the equation. When all I did was counter your general statements and told you that these statements make it seem like you're making excuses that aren't viable. It's not like I insulted you personally or trying to make you feel bad on purpose.
Yes weight struggles isn't about being overweight, but the majority of the time, it is. Hence why it is more broadly talked about. Even underweight struggles like annorexia is something that can be controlled. Hence why there are professionals who can give these people therapy.
We’re not disallowed per se. It’s just that the consequences are more severe. It basically boils down to sexual market value. The average woman has more options than the average man. So if she runs one off by being a hypocritical ass, no harm done. There is almost certainly a dozen more awaiting their turn. Whereas, a man who runs off a hypocritical ass likely doesn’t even have one on deck. He accepts a power imbalance or he accepts being alone. Or worse.
its a weird one! I've never met a girl who directly asked my height but it would be hard not to make assumptions about her personality based upon her questions.
I dont really get the importance of height to women, i can sort of understand a tall girl wanting a tall guy but why someone 5'1" needs a 6'2" guy is beyond me!
“Ill judge people for things they can’t control but I’ll be DAMNED if you judge somebody for weight they can lose” I’m not against fat people, just pointing out a close minded thought people clearly have.
It’s entitlement. In these cases, one person thinks you’re the one who has to impress them and they don’t dare answer qualifying questions that could lead to you rejecting them. But it is funny that these people thought it was perfectly fine asking how tall someone is and eliminating all guys below a certain height when they were greatly insulted when the guy was doing the same thing. 🤣
I also understand that typically you don't ask a female what you weigh. If she asked me how tall I was, I probably wouldn't follow up her question with what Do you weigh?
Yeah i saw that on different bio's on different dating apps. I don't even care to swipe right to these hypocrites. Most of the time they lie about their weight. They shouldn't. I don't care how much you weigh, if you are overweight, i am gonna motivate you to loose that extra fat so that you can stay healthy. Its never about the fat, its about being healthy. You are fat cause you are lazy and can't get sh*t done. This implies to both men and women.
Guys can ask whatever question they want... and girls have the right to decline to answer. Overall, women are more self-conscious about their weight than men are about their height, which is why most women prefer not to reveal their weight. I suppose they might answer the question if worded differently... "Are you skinny, average, or fat?"
similar reason why the modern body positivity movement pushes any female body type can be a bikini body regardless of how she looks. yet when their asked if any male body type can be a speedo body regardless of how he looks they take offence from it.
I think I agree with the point of this post but to be clear I don't think it's condemnable for women to have height preferences or to ask about it. But it is hypocritical for them to oppose questions like "how much do you weigh." Both of these questions should be acceptable. Having preferences isn't wrong.
Look at these ladies be like but... but... but... but... it's not the same.
It is terms of what the opposite sex finds attractive. Ladies want to rule out short men and men want to rule out "curvy" aka "Thic" aka "a few extra pounds" aka overweight.
Its not. The point I was making which was evidently not made was its the same thing. It's ridiculous to ask a question to determine if someone. is of your preference then get pissed when they do the same.
I think society or misandrists like to push the idea that women are perfect to the point where men have to accept them no matter what, whilst men simply have to be a certain way to get considered.
Because women like to play the game by their rules. Their rules being that I can change them rules when I want. I’m supposed to be a gentleman, be old fashioned, open the door, pull out the chair for her while she continues to be Ms Independent.
LOLOLOL!!! I should start doing this such a great way to make people mad on these apps even though I am 6'2 just gonna start denying women who ask height if I'm not even interested in smashing them.
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If I ask someone's height I'm just imagining where I would stand next to them. Nothing to do with preference. Asking a persons weight can be a very triggering topic, not to mention it fluctuates so much especially in women. Also asking it like these people have is just a punch back because for some reason they got offended. It's not like they actually wanted to know their weight they just felt like being a dick.
How is asking for someone’s weight triggering? I thought that was the whole point of body positivity.
@Birdlegs uh no. Body positivity isn't about weight. It's the exact opposite of body positivity. Many people struggle with their weight, and how they look, many have illnesses related to their weight. Not something you should bring up without the person inviting the conversation.
Then how come it’s just a bunch of fat women trying to preach about their (for lack of a better word) fatness? It seems to be very intertwined with weight l. The whole point is to be comfortable in your body no matter the size right? There’s no reason to get triggered if you’re confident 🦧
@Birdlegs body positivity is about acceptance of bodies of all types. Doesn't have to be larger bodies specifically. It's a movement to stop stupid unecessary comments and to also broaden the clothing variety for everyone. Kinda shit that if you're on either end of the scale nice clothes just don't exist for you.
Plus, not everyone is confident in their body. Just because there is such thing as body positivity doesn't mean everyone has it.
Way to miss the point of my comment though.
It is ok to ask her weight because most of the time it shows how unattractive or attractive you are.
A persons weight ≠ attractive...
To you. To many people overweight is equal to unattractive
Nobody gets obese overnight. That means "body positivity" encourages fat gain.
And if they judge you for 10 little fluctuating pounds, aren't you glad they showed it early? In your words they should be picky dicks but not say anything and be with someone they dislike?
A persons weight doesn't always show if they are overweight or not.
@Guy__ nobody said weight gain happens overnight body positivity isn't fat acceptance. Everyone understands that being overweight can be unhealthy but the point is you have no idea what these people you view as overweight eat, are doing to change that, you don't know what medical conditions they may have, therefore who are you to judge them? Someone else's weight is none of your business unless THEY talk about it with you and ASK YOU for your opinion. Why are overweight people unworthy of love and acceptance? That's fucked up.
That's what I mean. Why would anyone even be afraid of saying it then? are they all 300lb or what? I think most men are smart enough to consider the fluctuation and everything.
@Guy__ it's fine to ask if they brought it up. Because again you don't know their life. You don't know what kind of relationship they have with their body. This isn't just women. Eating disorders are very prevalent in men too. They just don't seek help for them.
A persons weight obviously shows if they’re overweight or not. If a 5 foot woman is 200 pounds she’s clearly overweight. If a 6’5 male body builder is 350 pounds he’s still overweight.
@Birdlegs but it doesn't matter and it's still rude to ask.
no it isn't, even asking for height is more rude. This is so silly let's not debate it anymore.
@Guy__ I'm not saying asking for height isn't rude. More so if you're doing it in a self absorbed I only like tall people way.
That is actually pretty messed up if you think about it. Height is okay but they can't change their height, but we can alter our weight but it's not okay to talk about that. I haven't thought about it.
I personally have no problem with the question. I never really thought about it. We're weird when it comes to what's socially acceptable and what isn't.
Not just that, but women WILL ghost you if you're not tall enough (6 feet+). You want to know why guys are willing to "be rude" to women after such a question? Because if the guy is short, he has nothing left to lose anyway. He either lies to her and tells her he's six feet, wait to get ghosted, or ask her the same rude and shallow questions to see if she likes it. There's nothing to lose.
@MCheetah I'm too scared to ask guys that now. When I would ask it would just be curiosity, not checking a box on my wishlist. It's not viewed the same in the eyes of you guys.
@1GoldTwins
Yeah, cause evidence shows, women REALLY f*ckin' care about height, and if you're not tall enough, you get this: https://imgur.com/a/8TJan
@MCheetah You only get that when facing superficial people! Remember! Even if you had that height, would you really want a woman who thinks like that?
Guys over six feet at least get laid, though...
The only reason short men even still exist is because of environmental failures when growing up. Not enough sleep, not enough cardio, bad dieting, stress, depression, obesity, etc. If height was purely genetic, we would've all gone extinct by now, solely due to Darwinism. Then again, since the average height for Western men used to be 5'6"/167 cm, I guess we kinda do go extinct, every few generations. Until the formerly "tall" (6'0"/183) becomes the new "average," which makes it the same thing as "short/not good enough."
One could argue shallow women are jus Darwinism in action.. Except Jeff Bezos and Mark Zuckerberg are both under 5'8". And Bill Gates is only 5'11". So that theory doesn't work, does it?
@MCheetah What do you mean? Plenty of short guys have success in dating!
@1GoldTwins
No, not really. 4% of men isn't "plenty." Especially if these short men are all rich and successful.
@MCheetah I don't believe that for a second!
I'm 6'1, but if a woman is going to ask me my height, I'm going to ask her the weight. There are MANY women who only show face pics and it can be hard to tell if they are over weight or not. It seems big girls have discovered some way to make themselves look thin when they are not. So if she doesn't have a full body pic in there somewhere, I am not responding. Further more, if all their photos are edited or filtered, I don't respond. If you have wrinkles, I want to see them. I will pick a woman with wrinkles over a woman who hides them 100% of the time. Women accuse men of being cat fishers, but let me tell you, 90% of women cat fish like crazy, you see them in real life and they look nothing like they did in their photos.
omg yes I've since the fattest girls look skinny due to angles and editing
What does height and weight have to do with anything? Two different questions.
If she can ask him how tall he is, he can ask her how tall she is... that is the apples to apples comparison. Asking weight after height is different.
Now if they are talking about BMI then yes that would be fine, but then ask what is your BMI for your height, etc...
Can a man ask her weight?
Is he not allowed to ask her a different question?
He is supposed to ask only the questions she asks?
More specifically, if a woman can ask a question designed to exclude men based on physical characteristics, why can't men?
@MrOracle People can ask whatever they want, but saying someone asks question A means the other can ask question Z, two totally different unrelated questions.
It would be like me saying, how tall are you and he answers then says, are you a virgin? like wtf does that have to do with how tall you are?
They are 100% not related at all, anyone who thinks they are is very ignorant.
I'm not talking about 20 questions either where you both agree to answer 20 questions, whatever they are.
@marish01 A man can ask whatever the fuck he wants, but his question alone may automatically end that conversation and they are done.
I personally would never ask something that wasn't along the lines of the same topic, height to height, weight to weight... so if I asked his weight, he can ask mine or reverse.
Not non of this all over the fucking place shit that only a retard would think is the same thing.
The reason why a woman cares about his height can be the same reason why he can ask her weight.
And telling him that the convo is done is not a threat. A respectable man wouldn't mind ending a convo with a senstive hypocrite.
Why would a woman care about anyone's height, I don't give a shit about a mans height... so what imaginary reason are you making up? No one I know cares about anyone's height either.
Maybe you live in a country full of dwarves so everyone is obsessed about it around here no one gives a fuck.
@MrOracle Technically wouldn't all questions be to exclude someone when getting to know someone?
Guys don't care about height. They do care about weight. If women think it's justified to ask a man such a question, then men can do the same. Equality, right? And if they don't want equality, then they would shut up and not ask such questions anyway, such ladies don't act unladylike.
There is no justification for this. But it's funny to read the female comments do mental gymnastics to explain away the blatant double standard anyway.
@Aerissa_Jade
Your logic is like a guy asking a woman a bunch of questions about her menstrual cycle and then going "Well you can ask me about my menstrual cycle too!" Especially knowing the majority of women will reject a guy if he's short/too short for her. You're playing the Liberal "there's no differences between genders" game.
That logic is dumb Jade, and you know it.
@MCheetah Just goes to show I'm not typical and I don't care about height, I never have. As you know my husband is only 5'9 but that is fine by me.
Since I don't care about height, I can't see how that and weight have anything to do with each other. Two totally different questions. I see height to height as the same or weight to weight.
Then again to me personality matters a hundred times more than looks cause for those that live long enough, the looks will fade, people put on weight and even get shorter.
I can totally see someone obsessed with height deciding to divorce her husband then cause he loses a couple inches when he gets older and starts to hunch or a man divorcing her cause she puts on some weight.
I'm don't care about any of that... I care about love and personality the most.
Well, 96% of straight women do care about height in a man. A woman asking a man his height is to judge a man and decide if he's worthy or unworthy. If a man does the same to a woman, it's fair play. Just because a woman has different things she cares about, doesn't make it any less rude.
I'm sure I've told you before how many women have shit on me for my own height and being "good enough" in their eyes. As I said in another comment, my first response would be to tell them I'm not going to answer that question. And the second response would be to ask why it matters. If it's that important to them, them I'm going to ask them about their weight, sexual history, menstrual cycle, and anything else that's "important" for a man to know.
@MCheetah and I think your hansom and your height is fine... but I know I'm different too. I'd rather meet someone in person the first time, than play online 20 questions beforehand.
You didn't say why it is fine for a woman to ask his height but not ok for a man to ask her weight?
She starts the body question.
@marish01 Easy, no one goes around stating how much they weight, EVER... people do go around (especially men) bragging or talking about their height thus logically, it is NOT a sensitive issue to ask about height like it is for weight, since clearly men talk about it freely all the time. Even shorter guys will go around stating they are short.
ZERO women ever go around talking about their weight and freely sharing it. Even dating websites are generic in weight terms, slim, athletic, curvy, etc... they stay away from simply entering in a number... YET your suppose to enter in a NUMBER for your height rather than, short, medium or tall. Clearly website programmers get it, where as you do not.
So your comparing apples to oranges again, asking about something that is freely and commonly discussed vs. something that is never is NOT the same fucking thing.
If you can't understand that now, nothing I say is going to, because your too stupid to understand the difference between a apple and a orange.
I'm done with this conversion, have a nice day and am unchecking notifications from this question so I won't even KNOW if you reply to this or not.
Weight is a little more sensitive then height. Like a woman could be 100 pounds and be overweight if short or she be 200 pounds and underweight if she's tall. Like height isn't that senstive since nobody is judging if that person is thin or fat based off height. Don't think this is a gender thing just in general.
Height is very sensitive for many guys.. Even as a 6'0 guy I was to feel insecure because I wasn't 6'3".. Also Height genetic whereas with dedication, hard work, and consistency weight can and has been lost..
@JDavid25 losing or gaining weight isn't always a option for everyone since our bodies are all made differently. And height isn't even something I notice if a guy is insecure that's all in his head cuz most girl don't actually care
Losing weight is definitely an option for anybody that can move.. Hell, even if you don't move.. All, it really takes is a calorie deficit.. It's not really super hard to lose weight.. And well most women do care about height, most are just willing to overlook it in some way..
@JDavid25 that is not true especially for women it's extremely hard to lose weight. Also extremely hard to gain weight if underweight. And Def not me I'm married to a man that's 5'6 and I don't even think about it most days
It's true for women also.. Some light exercise, moderately healthy eating foods to help clean your system out etc.. The hardest thing is for people to stop eating so much if overweight, and to start eating more if underweight.
Men have that problem too.. Ectomorph and Endomorph body types.. And well, most women don't require a man to tower over them, in fact a lot don't even care for it.. But most women want somebody taller than them.. In real life it's not bad, but online it's treacherous..
@JDavid25 def agree with that. Online is a total different world especially for dating. I feel bad for those who online date cuz in person it's a much better experiences
Yeah online will never beat the genuinely thrill meeting somebody in real life..
Genuine**
She makes his height a sensitive issue when it's implied she's judging his sexual value based off his response.
@Apple1996 Weight is something that can be controlled height isn't. wouldn't it make more sense for someone to be more sensitive about their height vs weight? And this is clearly a gender thing did we just read the same post?
@Vegasrunner weight cannot be controlled
@Apple1996 Lol, why do you believe weight can't be controlled?
@Vegasrunner cuz some people seriously can't. I just asked a question about weight and some people are overweight and others are underweight and have tried to fix themselves to be a normal weight but it's next to impossible for them it's just how their bodies are
@Apple1996 Whats the percentage of people that can control their height?
If weight is that sensitive to some women then those women should stop heightshaming men.
From what I've seen it's usually the very fit women shaming men for height
"weight cannot be controlled"
Still preaching that utter nonesense, eh? Weight for the majority of people is ABSOLUTELY something they can control. Stop shoving burgers down your throat and get on a treadmill. Funny enough, these aren't my words. These are the word of a dude at my gym who went from obese to 15% bodyfat while gained lean muscle. I was shocked and extremely impressed to see his before pictures and how he is now. If weight truly wasn't something that can be controlled, as you absurdely claim, then the fitness industry wouldn't even exist and far more obese people would be walking around.
Claiming weight cannot be controlled is just a lazy excuse to remain in the comfort zone by a self-defeating bum.
"Like a woman could be 100 pounds and be overweight if short"
Lmao. How short a woman must be for being overweight if she is only 100 pounds?
@marish01 Yeah not the first time she makes these exaggerated claims. All to escape personal accountability
I'm 4'10 and close to that weight and considered over weight so definitely possible
@TruthBringer not trying to escape anything. I don't need to be fit I'm pregnant
How many cm is that?
@marish01 147 cm
@Apple1996 Pregnant women must definitely maintain their fitness if they want to remain healthy. And if not during pregnancy, then after. Go ahead and keep making excuses for yourself.
@TruthBringer I'm perfectly healthy right now
@Apple1996 People can be healthy and overweight. At least until a point. But often people who are overweight aren't healthy. Also, your unorginal excuse of using pregnancy also isn't really viable to try to prove that people cannot control their weight. But since you like to use that excuse, let's see if it pregnant women shouldn't exercise. A very quick Google search gave me iver 1.6 billion results and the top ones contradict you.
"Ideally, pregnant women should get at least 150 minutes of moderate-intensity aerobic activity every week. An aerobic activity is one in which you move large muscles of the body (like those in the legs and arms) in a rhythmic way."
www.acog.org/.../exercise-during-pregnancy
"Exercise is not dangerous for your baby. There is some evidence that active women are less likely to experience problems in later pregnancy and labour."
www.nhs.uk/pregnancy/keeping-well/exercise/
Sorry Apple, but you will only fool yourself with those lame excuses.
@TruthBringer I didn't say that I don't workout. All I said is that I'm still healthy even tho I'm overweight and I'm pregnant so being overweight isn't even a thing considering thats my baby weight to grow my child
Then why did you say you're overweight?
Cuz I am technically overweight by 2 pounds
But you are pregnant
It's not something I care about considering that I'm breastfeeding one baby and growing another being pregnant
@Apple1996 Lets take a look back:
you: "I don't need to be fit when I'm pregnant"
First of all, depends on your definition of being "fit". No you don't need to look like an instagram model. But fit within the context of dicussing the topic of being overweight means not overweight. And you're basically putting the narrative that pregnant women don't have to be fit. When clearly, science and many sources say that pregnant women SHOULD try and be fit (aka taking care of their weight and health by exercising). We all should keep an eye on our weight and health. Including pregnant women.
" I'm pregnant so being overweight isn't even a thing considering thats my baby weight to grow my child"
Dear Lord. Nobody was talking about the weight like of the baby itself. We are talking about YOUR weight. As in your own fat. Newsflash, Apple: Women who are pregnant can still be overweight by their own weight. And fat women can still be pregnant.
Here is another simple Google search that lead me to the following:
"Having a high BMI during pregnancy increases the risk of various pregnancy complications, including: Miscarriage, stillbirth and recurrent miscarriage. Gestational diabetes."
www.mayoclinic.org/.../art-20044409
"Being overweight or obese during pregnancy can cause problems for you and your baby."
www.marchofdimes.org/.../...-during-pregnancy.aspx
@Apple1996 The point here isn't whether you are pregnant and breastfeeding another child at the same time. The point here is that you're making statements that are baseless and completely false. Like when you claim that pregnant women don't have to work out (invalid & debunked) and that weight cannot be controlled (also invaled & debunked). But of course, your ego doesn't let you admit the obvious wrong in your thinking. Even in the presence of sources.
@TruthBringer moms need to gain 25-35 pounds while pregnant. Only about 6-8 of that is the baby. The rest stays on the mom to provide for the baby and to build fat for breastfeeding after. I have no problem with my weight, neither does my doc so I'm completely healthy and fine. If I lost that weight it could be risky for the baby. My doctors only want to see my gain from this point on
Lol how are you overweight when you are 100 pounds and PREGNANT?
@marish01 I know the bmi is not accurate for extreme short people or extremely tall people and also being pregnant throws in a different side but according to bmi I am overweight. That's just how it is unfortunately
I'm really 125. If I lost 2 pounds I wouldn't be overweight
Is that overweight for a PREGNANT WOMAN of your HEIGHT?
@Apple1996 Great that you're healthy and I hope it stays that way. And if you have to maintain the current weight for the sake of your baby, then that's definitely what you should do indeed. Once again, the whole discussion isn't about you, but rather the STATEMENTS you're making. The statements you're applying to the general public that is. Also, fitness for pregnant woman specifically isn't designed for them to lose weight. It makes sure they maintain healthy weight and not regress into becoming unhealthy. Even for pregnant women, having movement is far better than not having movement. This rule applies to everyone.
@TruthBringer pregnant women can't maintain weight. They have to gain weight to have a healthy baby. If a woman maintains weight they will put her on bedrest with a feeding tube. I almost had to do that with one of my pregnancies cuz I didn't gain weight at the end like I needed to
That is why when telling what weight is healthy, height and the pregnancy factors are being considered.
I don't know why you even brought up your pregnancy. Weight questions were not about pregnant women.
@Apple1996 I thought I made myself clear that we're not discussing weight of the baby or weight that comes with pregnancy naturally. We're speaking of regressing into a less than ideal state for pregnant women. Which is remaining idle, when working out, as the sources I've sent you, tell that it is important even for pregnant women to work out.
It's you who brought pregnancy into the equation of working out, in the first place. Fitness and weight is different for pregnant women. We all know that. Again, it's about the STATEMENTS you made that you tried to reinforce by 'pregnancy'. When in reality they are incorrect. And your initial statement was that weight cannot be controlled. Meaning, you also speak for peopel who aren't pregnant. Which is completely false.
@marish01 By her using pregnancy in the topic of weight, she resorted to a red herring logical fallacy. This means she is trying to distract people from the real issue.
Because @TruthBringer saying I like to make excuses. Being pregnant is not a excuse I seriously cannot control my weight even if I wanted to. That is out of my control
@TruthBringer I'm speaking for everyone since other people have different issues where they can't control their weight. For me it's pregnancy. Everyone else having trouble has different things that I don't know so would be impossible to sit here and talk about since that's not my experience
@Apple1996
"Because @TruthBringer saying I like to make excuses. Being pregnant is not a excuse I seriously cannot control my weight even if I wanted to. That is out of my control"
No missy. You weren't discussing pregnancy when you made your GENERAL STATEMENT, that applies to the general public. You didn't mention pregnancy when you mentioned that weight cannot be controlled. Under the topic that does NOT discuss pregnancy. You using pregnancy is a scapegoat whenever someone counters your argument. Don't make general statements next time. Make sure you mention your pregnacy before you cause confusion or backtrack on your initial statement.
@TruthBringer your the one storming in on my comment trying to pull down a pregnant woman like it's unnecessary on all levels. You didn't have to comment towards me if you didn't want to hear about it back
@Apple1996
" I'm speaking for everyone since other people have different issues where they can't control their weight"
You don't get to talk on behalf of others when you use your pregnancy as a reason to reinforce a general statement you've made. There is a false equivalence between your statement and the arguments you provide. Over 70 million people in the US alone are obese. But according to you, 70 million people cannot control their weight. That's utter bullshit. Especially since doctors tell their overweight/obese patients to stop eating crap and start exercising. You can stop with the gas lighting now.
"your the one storming in on my comment trying to pull down a pregnant woman like it's unnecessary on all levels. You didn't have to comment towards me if you didn't want to hear about it back"
Wow, really? Are you seriously accusing me of this? How am I trying to pull you down, eh? You made a statement and I countered it. On an OPEN FORUM. Just because you don't like it when people disagree with you, and go out of their way to debunk your statements, doesn't give you the right to paint them as some bad guy. So you can stop playing victim. Nobody here is insulting you. People here are disagreeing with you and participate in a discussion. If you don't like to hear counter-arguments, then get off of open forums.
@TruthBringer other people aren't coming at me on a personal level so I have no problem with them. And I wasn't only talking about overweight people. I've mentioned underweight people multiple times. Weight struggles aren't always about being over weight.
@Apple1996 How did I come at you at a personal level? Because you've made it awfully personal yourself by bringing your pregnancy, height and weight into the equation. When all I did was counter your general statements and told you that these statements make it seem like you're making excuses that aren't viable. It's not like I insulted you personally or trying to make you feel bad on purpose.
Yes weight struggles isn't about being overweight, but the majority of the time, it is. Hence why it is more broadly talked about. Even underweight struggles like annorexia is something that can be controlled. Hence why there are professionals who can give these people therapy.
We’re not disallowed per se. It’s just that the consequences are more severe. It basically boils down to sexual market value. The average woman has more options than the average man. So if she runs one off by being a hypocritical ass, no harm done. There is almost certainly a dozen more awaiting their turn. Whereas, a man who runs off a hypocritical ass likely doesn’t even have one on deck. He accepts a power imbalance or he accepts being alone. Or worse.
I am 6' 2" tall 1787lbs
Hahahaha!!!
The average woman can still get banged by a hot man
its a weird one! I've never met a girl who directly asked my height but it would be hard not to make assumptions about her personality based upon her questions.
I dont really get the importance of height to women, i can sort of understand a tall girl wanting a tall guy but why someone 5'1" needs a 6'2" guy is beyond me!
That looks unattractive.
5'1 and 6'2
“Ill judge people for things they can’t control but I’ll be DAMNED if you judge somebody for weight they can lose” I’m not against fat people, just pointing out a close minded thought people clearly have.
It’s entitlement. In these cases, one person thinks you’re the one who has to impress them and they don’t dare answer qualifying questions that could lead to you rejecting them. But it is funny that these people thought it was perfectly fine asking how tall someone is and eliminating all guys below a certain height when they were greatly insulted when the guy was doing the same thing. 🤣
That's feminism, women are allowed to be picky, while men don't.
And shame men
I'm allowed to ask anything I want, she gets offended by that question that's her problem.
I also understand that typically you don't ask a female what you weigh. If she asked me how tall I was, I probably wouldn't follow up her question with what Do you weigh?
Replying to your update, I really don't care how many men she has had sex with as long as she's clean
Yeah i saw that on different bio's on different dating apps. I don't even care to swipe right to these hypocrites. Most of the time they lie about their weight. They shouldn't. I don't care how much you weigh, if you are overweight, i am gonna motivate you to loose that extra fat so that you can stay healthy. Its never about the fat, its about being healthy. You are fat cause you are lazy and can't get sh*t done. This implies to both men and women.
Guys can ask whatever question they want... and girls have the right to decline to answer. Overall, women are more self-conscious about their weight than men are about their height, which is why most women prefer not to reveal their weight. I suppose they might answer the question if worded differently... "Are you skinny, average, or fat?"
similar reason why the modern body positivity movement pushes any female body type can be a bikini body regardless of how she looks. yet when their asked if any male body type can be a speedo body regardless of how he looks they take offence from it.
I think I agree with the point of this post but to be clear I don't think it's condemnable for women to have height preferences or to ask about it. But it is hypocritical for them to oppose questions like "how much do you weigh." Both of these questions should be acceptable. Having preferences isn't wrong.
As long as they don't bodyshame
Agreed
Look at these ladies be like but... but... but... but... it's not the same.
It is terms of what the opposite sex finds attractive. Ladies want to rule out short men and men want to rule out "curvy" aka "Thic" aka "a few extra pounds" aka overweight.
Ladies?
The women of gag saying asking height is not the equivalent of asking weight.
And how is asking height more polite than asking weight?
Its not. The point I was making which was evidently not made was its the same thing. It's ridiculous to ask a question to determine if someone. is of your preference then get pissed when they do the same.
I think society or misandrists like to push the idea that women are perfect to the point where men have to accept them no matter what, whilst men simply have to be a certain way to get considered.
It's a blatant double standard.
Exactly. And those misandrists worship women
Probably. Nice to see a woman not be afraid to call out the BS too. 😁
Imma get em mad..
At the end of the night, we're gonna see the stomach fall out when the pants come off, if they aren't already posted online...
And we're gonna see that, that wonder bra really did wonders when they go from watermelons to mosquito bites.
Insecurities, but Imma break that barrier on this site... BEST BELIEVE.
You nailed it.
You forgot the wonders makeup does
Because women like to play the game by their rules. Their rules being that I can change them rules when I want. I’m supposed to be a gentleman, be old fashioned, open the door, pull out the chair for her while she continues to be Ms Independent.
LOLOLOL!!! I should start doing this such a great way to make people mad on these apps even though I am 6'2 just gonna start denying women who ask height if I'm not even interested in smashing them.