1.4K opinions shared on Dating topic. for some odd reason women who are already taken are more easier to seduce than women who are single.
either way, guys are put into 3 separate categories based on first impressions alone and other external characteristics, the internal characteristics are irrelevant because one can simply know them without opening up first. these categories can easily be summed up by the "safe zone", the "grey zone" and the "danger zone".
the "safe zone" is given to guys who are extremely physically attractive in the eyes of the girl. he is a beneficiary of the halo effect and can easily seduce her without much effort due to a high margin for error. she wants him to hit on her and if he doesn't hit on her, she tries to hit on him. if somehow he manages to screw up the interaction, you know for certain he has internal problems e. g. he makes a death threat. also guys in the "safe zone" are less likely to get cheated on and the girl will put in effort to try and prevent him from cheating.
the "grey zone" is given to guys who just meet a girl's bare minimum level of physical attractiveness. she is able to tolerate him but he has a low margin for error and would need to put in some effort without appearing desperate which puts him in a tight spot. the possibility of success is extremely slim and requires a lot of luck on his part. guys in the "grey zone" are more likely to get cheated on regardless of the effort he puts in.
the "danger zone" is given to guys who don't meet the girl's bare minimum level of physical attractiveness. he suffers from the reverse halo effect or horned effect which applies negative traits to him based on his ugly looks. his confidence would be perceived as arrogance, his independence would be seen as a loner weirdo, his flirting would be seen as creepy, his funny jokes would be seen as offensive. basically he can't do anything right and even a kind hearted friendly personality will be seen as an ulterior motive. whatever good that exists inside of him will always come out as bad and not bad as in what bad boys have but bad as in letting this guy touch a girl let alone get her pregnant would be worst thing to ever happen. even in the absence of evidence, these guys would receive labels of "serial killer vibes", "school shooter vibes", "stalker", "creep" "pervert" etc. these guys are often stuck in a dichotomy where they're often told it's their personality and not their looks that is bad so they try to improve their personality but not their "satisfactory" looks only to be stuck in the same repeating cycle. then there's also the expectation that men not be "cowards" and "quitters" thus the "creep" label gets thrown on them harder when they can't take "no" for an answer. however this is short-sighted because someone in the "safe zone" wouldn't have received a "no" in the first place which defeats the "myth" of entitlement. the reason why this is the "danger zone" is because ultimately these guys get pushed into a corner, try to get out only to get pushed back in again so many times they give up and become the very thing they were originally despised to be often leading to suicides and mass murders.
so yeah, that's just how the world is. it's not deliberately done on purpose. women can't help who they are attracted or not attracted to. can't change it and there's no point in changing it. life for a man is like driving in a brand new car on a long highway. any mishaps along the way like road bumps, a punctured tyre, petrol only half full will end in set back and the more set backs will ensure more difficulty in catching up to those who are already ahead of you.
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If this is true then maybe good strategy for danger zone is to become friends first then let attraction build through personality
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@inhua You summed it up better than I was going to and w/ good detail. I just call the three categories
1. Yes - You don't need to say anything to get her
2. Maybe - You need to work harder to get her.
3. NO - There's nothing you can do to get her.
Problem with most guys is they either talk themselves out of the yes or spend to much time talking to a girl when they're a no. - +1 y
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That's a good strategy, if it is, for the grey zone.
Indeed, grey zone guys will have to go ahead gradually and carefully, which is what you said in other words.
Who is in danger zone will be hindered from doing that.
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1.4K opinions shared on Dating topic. Dude, anything guys do women do. They call it by different things, and use different criteria. Some are legit and honest about it. THANK YOU LADIES!!! 🙏😊
But honestly, most would never admit it, and if you call them out about it, they get extremely defensive about it. They'll deny it, but it doesn't change the fact that you felt jerked around and still made no progress.
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+1 yI only have three categories: stranger I don’t prioritize cause I do not know him / bad person to flawed for a relationship / good person who has a chance with me or might have a chance with me or already interested in. If I reject a guy it’s usually because he’s a bad person or because I don’t know him well enough. I rarely reject guys for being ugly or stupid or poor cause I do not care about status.
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+1 yI can't understand what the actual question is, but I feel like I'd have to really know a guy before determining what I think about him and whether or not I'm attracted.
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I think what the poster means to say is that girls go along with an attractive guys vibe until he does or says something (s) that isn't attractive whereas unattractive guys have to work from the bottom up?
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@ExoticWarrior I could talk to a 9 and he could be completely retarded and I would lose all interest. I could talk to a 4, and he might be a wit, and there might be a bunch of girls chasing after him. Men are projecting what they seek in women onto themselves.
Now, believe it or not, I'm pretty feminine. Women with high T are going to be attracted to looks more. I really have to know who the person is. I got to know someone recently, slowly took my time, really liked him. Then I found out that he wasn't who he said he was, and I lost interest like that.
I think looks get you in the door, and I think the bar is set higher for women, but a cunning 4 is better than a dopey 9 any day. Women are really more attracted to a mindset, and it takes some time to establish what a guy's mindset is. Men are more instantaneously drawn to a woman because of looks. It takes women longer to be drawn to men.
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+1 yOf course, guys do the same as well when they meet women they are attracted to and aren't attracted to.
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+1 yNot sure with the women. But I have a system. If she seems too hot to be real, I hold her at arm's length until I trust her. Too good to be true usually means false.
The car analogy gets a lot of hate these days, but apples here. The new section has me worried about how I'm gonna get fleeced. So I prefer the used section, where I at least don't get put in the poor house immediately, and can gain a small glance in advance at what I'm up against.
Show me the GirlFax. I wanna know how she got every ding, scratch, or dent, so I can weigh my investments and plan accordingly. But it's the devil you know versus the devil you don't.
I look for girls that are organized. Like a 6, maybe 5 at the lowest, but not higher than an 8. Life has been cruel to her, but she's finally climbing the ladder. She's not arrogant. She's been through too much crap to be overly pretentious. She knows how easily one false move could be her last. We understand each other's desires, and anxieties. If it's us versus the world someday, at least we'll have each other.
This girl is willing to learn new things from me, and is willing to teach me new tricks in return. If I can convince my family to accept her, even better!
If a gal is too butt ugly to date, I'll at least see if she has a valuable personality in some other way.
Cheaters, I have little patience for. If some tragedy while she was somewhere far away led to her giving up on me, and clinging to someone else out of desperation, I can forgive. But I know the odds of reclaiming what her and I once had are slim to none. If it was all a game to her, and she laughs that I was taken advantage of, she can rot in Hell.
There is one type of woman I for sure won't ever date. Liars. Slanderers. Those who tell you one thing, gain your trust, then backstab you. Try to frame you. Say things, especially if patently false, that could land you in jail, because that's how little they give a damn if you outlive your usefulness.
If she's like that, she could look like the daughter of Brad Pitt and Luanu Lani, and I would still want to see her sent to ADX Florence! Women like that, it's almost impossible to forgive. They make me burn with the wrath of MK9 Scorpion, pushed too far by Quan Chi and Bi-Han, and ready to snap spines! If she's butt ugly and has that same character, then I'll know she made it up. Because I'd never knowingly say anything that she could twist!
And if I move far away, and she sends bots to try to scam me on Instagram? Then she is beyond puke!
Yes, I've had to deal with that sort of crazy.
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+1 yWhat I am seeing in modern culture is that woman believe they can “piecemeal” a perfect man:
- They want a bad boy to discreetly get their sexual needs met with.
- They want a nice guy they can exploit chivalry, favors and free counseling out of
- They want a funny yet harmless guy that can entertain them.
- They even want a guy they label creepy because it gives them a condescending sense of superiority. Gives them a reason to cry victim.
And they want it all TOGETHER. The perfect dream world.
Before our “modern” culture where marriage was the norm women weren’t given the delusional expectation of being entitled to the best of all worlds.
00 ReplyYes. Women categorize men who flirt with them into one of five categories:
Date material (8s, 9s, and 10s),
Hookup material (7s),
Simp/rebound guy material (6s),
Insta-rejections (5s and 4s),
And creeps/incels to call the police on (1s, 2s, and 3s).
Now you know. And knowing is half the battle!16 Reply- +1 y
I think it actually goes:
Hookup material (9s, and 10s),
Date material (7s, 8s),
As super attractive guys aren't known to commit so unless they give indication they want to date then the girl would probably assume he won't commit?
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You're assuming women have more logic than they actually do. - +1 y
Fair enough
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Women hookup with hotter guys, not uglier ones.
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They hookup with what they can't get to stay.
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@ExoticWarrior This
+1 yFor some reason i always get more women that are taken than those who are single never understood it myself and i wouldn't really know this one but i'm sure they do only bc if they like you they pay attention to you and if they do that and they are cute then they are probably getting hit on a lot, so i'm sure they categorize men who are hitting on them in order to pick the right one that suites them.
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Why do men take those women to begin with?
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@fembotnpc777 Don't know tbh also when i say taken i mean boyfriend not marriage bc that'd be too much dating is weird you could date the wrong person and not know until its too late or you realize and then you date another person that's different right after
+1 yYep! If she see's you as a friend or unattractive, there are no hopes to get out for 99% of girls. There are exceptions but if when I ask her to be more than friends or ask a random girl out, if the answer is anything else that a direct "YES", then I'm out!
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+1 yGod I hope they do, but if only I could read minds when it's happening, then I would know I'm already out of their league or I shouldn't mistake that smile for just being a smile, not a 'smile' smile. And so on.
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+1 yI'm just here to read what any females say. I know I categorize every single person I see almost instantly, but I have this feeling they'll lie and say some lofty shit that's supposed to make them look good.
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+1 yMost girls that I know have like two atmost 3 categories
>Guy/Guys I like (Includes boyfriend or/and celebrity or fictional crushes)
>The static (includes nice friends and non friends alike)
They dont have too many categories like u guys
And usualllllyyyy even if a woman is very sexually promiscuous she doesn't remember all of them like "people"... only the guy she likes...
10 ReplyThis seems like a trick question. Most guys don't approach women anymore, unless they know they will not get the police called on them for flirting with strangers.
00 Reply972 opinions shared on Dating topic. I think the proper term is to instrumentalize. lol
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+1 yPeople can’t choose who they love. Attempting to is very human.
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Attraction isn’t a choice but RESPECT is. Likeability doesn’t always equal respect.
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@RangerBlue22 There will always be people lacking respect. One can’t be “categorized” as everyone either.
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@dustybiker do you really both genders equally have this problem? I don’t. Yes there are some dbag guys out there I don’t like anymore than you do. But modern women are being told that they aren’t selfish for “expressing their truth”. So being rude and disrespectful to a guy they don’t find attractive is “okay”.
There are consequences to that kind of behavior. From what you can see on GAG it isn’t good. - +1 y
@RangerBlue22 I don’t generalize like this. So I don’t think it’s a broad issue. No.
Anonymous(36-45)+1 yThere is simply two categories.
Guys who hit on them they like and guys who hit on them they don’t like.
The guys they like are “flirting” and it’s sweet and cute.
The guys they don’t like are “creeps” and it’s gross and “harassment”211 Reply- +1 y
Opinion Owner+1 y@suzzieQ and the point went so far over your false victim complex head that it is now in orbit.
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She's a victim only when the guys she doesn't like ask her out actually. She has no problem to be approached when Chad, Tyrone and Bad boy ask. ;)
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@suzzieQ I will not "figure out" anything. I go politely and smiley and approach women. If they are not interested and don't want to talk, they can say it.
I'm not sure exactly what you're talking about but if you say that I should "figure it out" before I approach or that I'll stop trying when she doesn't seem to like it, then sorry but that's not going to happen. Only a direct rejection would make me go away. Not my problem if you don't have the courage to reject someone. - +1 y
@YourFavoriteFriend It called social aptitude. If you dont have it then you are going to have a difficult time reading social situations, like you are clearly demonstrating by your inability or just blatant disregard for social cues. You shouldn't approach women at all until you learn how to recognize weather or not someone is receptive to being approached.
If you make someone uncomfortable because of something you did, that is on you.
Opinion Owner+1 y@suzzieQ typical female mentality
“Read our minds”
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@suzzieQ Honey, I don't give a fuck what you or anyone else says. I'll keep approaching girls either you like it or not. Thankfully, girls here in my place are not stupid entitled bitches like the ones in the USA so you can flirt like a normal human being without problems.
Have fun whining and complaining all day! 😘 - +1 y
Yep! Typical western chick! I feel so lucky that I haven't born in North America or in a big central west European country where most chicks are TERRIBLE!
Don't we all categorize people with whom we interact?
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Exactly
394 opinions shared on Dating topic. Yes. I'm pretty sure every human being makes that kind of assessment when someone hits on them. The most basic form of it is interested in them/ not interested in them.
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Anonymous(18-24)+1 yWe categorize them as either a yes or no, and there are relatively very few yeses.
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Anonymous(36-45)+1 yOMG, really?
Only a guy would come out with a question like this.
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Anonymous(45 Plus)+1 yi kinda do. it's either just good for sex, potentially could date and the not interested in at all
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+1 yI don't understand what you're trying to say or ask.
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Anonymous(30-35)+1 yOf course they do. Either she fancies the guy or she does not or he's not her type. It's that simple. Girls do this.
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+1 yWell, we categorize them. So I wouldn't be surprised if they categorize us as well.
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Anonymous(36-45)+1 ySure dude--of COURSE they do. THe same way YOU yourself categorize people.
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Anonymous(18-24)+1 yYes, I'm guessing guys and girls both to that.
10 Reply3.7K opinions shared on Dating topic. Why wouldn't they?
00 ReplyIt's either yes, no or friend
00 ReplyI think it definitely happens naturally.
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+1 yI don't
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