Agree. It may not be fair but this is what I think
No that is crazy
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Yes, let's discuss this topic. This is mytake worthy... if we can keep this discussion mature and civil.
Why is it if a man is single past his 30s, it's seen as a "compliment," and he's deemed a bachelor, not ready to settle down, or waiting on the right woman? Society doesn't judge men as harshly as women for being single later in life.
Whereas if a woman is still single at... hell 29 in most cases-
She's: broken, weird, a cat lady (which is another contradiction, because if a single guy has cats, it's a turnon), she's unattractive, "needs to lower her standards..." The list goes on.
Don't believe me? Do a search on here about women that single in their 30s and just read some of the snarky, nonsensical views some men have towards them. Go on, do a search... I'll wait. I did too and it's pathetic.
To answer your question: in most cases, no, there's nothing wrong with her. She's sick of the bullshit associated with the dating scene and refuses to settle for less than she deserves.
Girl that's an excellent answer!
Hmm two things.
1. This website definitely doesn't reflect reality. If you believe this website every guy is a single virgin and every girl is a friends with benefits who can't get a boyfriend.
2. The problem with women in their 30's is their standards are going up as their dating options are going down, and the quality guys in their age brackets have hit enough of a prime to date girls in their 20's. Granted, that applies to *quality* guys. Plenty of men and women in their 30's are gross fat slobs who have a net worth of $500.
@RationalMale Yes, it's sad that in most situations, a female's standards and dating options are indirectly proportional as she ages. Here's the primary problem for them. They run into a lot of men like me. I will ONLY offer a female a friends with benefits relationship. I tell them up front I am not monogamous and never will be. Then you have men that play games and basically pump and dump. Then you have a large segment of the male population that are basically incels. I would guess maybe 30% of all unmarried men under the age of 40 are even viable potential partners. The problem that has started to happen more and more is women are now playing these games. Then as they get closer to their 30s start wanting to settle. Now I will refer back to what I just finished about the available men in that age group. And people still to this day call me stupid for not settling down. Yes, right!
I would disagree because a guy that single in his 30s could also be a social weirdo or a workaholic and neither of them is a person to be in a relationship or start a family with and they chose to be that way. These guys chose career over family so it´s their decision. Because they either work at a job or they didn´t do the work to be more socially active and presentable.
A so called handsome guy could also be a social weirdo, sociopath or a gamer and none of that sounds like a good for son in law. It´s not important what how a guy looks, it´s more important what he has to offer to make a decision if he´s eligible for a relationship and social skills should be something he´s good at. Because Tedd b
I hate statements like these make me feel like guys look for any kind of statement because they don´t address the real issues. People get more and more crazy because they are judged by statements like this. You wonder why they are so many women you US guys call "Karen"? It´s a statement easy to make while neglecting that not everybody is born good at dating.
Because dating is hard for both sexes and that´s something guys love to neglect.
Those are "one off's" in life and easy to argue. It's like saying "well not all men" or "not all women" Of course their are exceptions. Should all questions add ( Not everyone ) or should maybe people hopefully just assume it's generalized?
No you can ask your questions generalised because it gets the attention of more people then. I might have overstretched the point of saying that I don´t consider it more weird for a woman to be single in their 30s than for a guy since there are too many reasons why that happens. That´s all I actually wanted to say. 🤷🏻♂️
I didn´t actually mean to critise you´re way of asking a question.
That's fine appreciate the comments... but just know most of your answer is giving anecdotal one off's as if the asker really believes the question is binary and the need to give anecdotal exceptions is needed.
Yeah no worries man.
It is kind of true.
MAN: Men mature more slowly so he is just coming into his own. He is more financially set at 30 then he is 22 and if he plans on having kids being financially stable will allow the mom to stay with the kids, at least while they are little. Men age well, they look more distinguished and mature with a little age.
WOMEN: Women who want babies and a family. 20-30 it th apex of a woman's fertility and her prime child bearing years. Once 30 hits, her odds of having a baby or a healthy baby start going down and if she isn't in a relationship or married her chances of having her own kids and family start to run out.
I suppose a woman who has no interest in kids at all and doesn't want a family doesn't really have to care about this.
Society has changed much faster than social bias. Sometimes I think there are still people who would demand witch burnings for women who dare to be single beyond age of 30, especially if they are attractive. It's like an valuable asset you own but you aren't willing to share with anyone.
Witch burnings were awful lol
What are you babbling about?
Feminsim has been preaching for 30 plus years that marriage, motherhood, family BAD, career, advanced degrees, climbing the job ladder... is the most important thing in life!!!
Don't be one of these pathetic, loser, oppressed women who want to get married and have a family. She missed out on life because she didn't prioritize her career over everything else.
Single at 30? These women are worshipped now. You are making up some red herring to argue against.
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Exactly and especially if she has never been married.
We guys are DEFINITELY missing something then. No one stays on the shelf that long, especially, with that “waist”.
Something is a little “too fishy” about this one.
Biology, statistics, and science all show that women in their 30s have SIGNIFICANTLY worse fertility than men do in their 50s. It is not an opinion, it is proven. Everyone that disagrees with that is either ignorant or intentionally lying.
So for anyone that wants a good chance at having a healthy family/kids women in their 30s are much less desirable than men in their 30s. Biology doesn't lie. Literally thousands of years of evidence on it.
Now a man just getting older doesn't necessarily increase his value, but him gaining knowledge, resources, making better decisions due to increased mental maturity, stronger, having a more developed masculine looking face, etc. All of those things can increase his value vs when he was in his 20s.
Your fertility is still fine in your 30s i got pregnant by my ex and he only cam inside me once so yeah, its still good... I aborted last January because were were breaking up so no point bringing a kid into the world... i do regret it tho because it would have been my first son..
@anemone978
Just because you get pregnant on first shot does not mean your particular fertile.
As for what you did to your baby, I doubt very much he would have preferred death to faithlessness.
@monorprise Yeah but you ain't a doctor, and it also doesn't mean im not...
Oh well my dumb ass ex shouldn't of not worn a condom and lied to try and trap me, So I doubt he would want to grow up living with me at my mothers house... And I was very unstable mentally at the time for a long while so I wouldn't of been a good mother anyways.. I already feel bad for what I did so don't even say anything about it cuz you don't know shit about what a person deals with who goes through that...
I think it comes down to the fact that men don't have a time constraint while women kind of do I mean if you want to have your own biological kids you do have a limited window of time and opportunity to secure and marry someone.
Guys don't necessarily have those constraints. But generally because of the views society has on how a man should be and what he should possess it usually takes guys longer to become stable and secure enough to enter the dating market with something to show for it. And lets be honest lots of women like older guys because of their own daddy issues and or the stability and security, maturity provided usually by older guys.
I think both of those things play a part in that kind of mindset and viewpoint that some people have.
Cynicaldreamer gave an excellent answer.. Unfortunately there's a double standard in society and women in their 30's have to deal with a lot ageism, discrimination and prejudice...
Now get ready for the usual "older women are unattractive" or "women hit the wall and can't have kids in their 30's" as usual
To answer your question, no I don't believe there's anything wrong with being single at any age, regardless of someone's gender..
Simple.
A woman is in her prime around 18-24ish if she's taking care of herself and living healthy. That's when women have almost endless dating options and can make bank off their looks.
A man's prime isn't just his looks. He needs confidence, experience, charisma, money, career success. That prime hits more like 30ish assuming he's working hard to succeed in career, finances, social skills, and taking care of himself physically.
Hence, a man around 30ish is really in his prime assuming he's taking care of himself. A woman around 30ish is past her prime and on the downward slope compared to where she was at 20-30.
See, men dictate what is attractive in women. Women dictate what is attractive in men.
False women can look good at any age, as long as she take care of themselves.. 18 year olds aren't women, but kids (although they're legally adults).
@BillyHills not what I said, so wrong. A woman can look good at different ages. Yet reality remains that if you take a gorgeous woman who took care of herself, her physical prime was around 18-24ish. She might look great at 35, but that will not be equal to her prime.
@Delaney34 your opinion on what makes women attractive doesn't matter, just as my opinion on what makes men attractive doesn't matter. Simple reality.
it's a fucked up reality. so it means men are the ones making that messed up reality because it's men who have to chose the woman who are saying that, where as when it's the woman who has to choose the man, she's not saying that about him as clearly stated on your question that resembles reality.
so it all goes back to the man... MEN wtf is wrong with you?
she isn't saying that about him correct. But women are in their own delusional reality as well wanting someone who is 6 foot , makes six figures, and is six inches downstairs at the least. Men didn't make that up you all were polled saying it.
Maybe unfair, but I think there is some truth to it. While I don't care so much about age, my male friends and acquaintances seem to universally date younger. What that means is that as women get older, in general their pool of interested men shrinks more quickly than the pool of women does for men. A man of 35 might marry a woman anywhere from 21 to close to his age. Most 35 year old women do not look at a 21 year old man, or a 25 year old man, as marriage material.
Goes back to the old movies where the boss dated his secretary. Work wife so to speak who was of course younger.
@LiamJHayden can you tell me where exactly does this happen outside of Gag and who are these guys? According to statistics from Wikipedia and based on a population survey by the US Census Bureau that was conducted in 2017, the average age gap between people in most married couples in the US is about 2-6 years (with the guy older than the woman). Only 20% of all married couples had a bigger age difference than that.
I wish I could post link, but Gag doesn't let me for some reason. But the statistics are easily accessible on Google and Wikipedia
only a miserable person would agree with this statement
I'm not one of those...
Many do think women over 30 are done and have no value. It's unfortunate but true.
like I said they are miserable people themselves
just by the mere fact they see people as value or no value, what a sad approach to life but anyway... to each, their own
What about women who just broke up? What about women who were in school and had no time to date? Yes loser men would reject these women but if she’s attractive it won’t be an issue. And let’s be honest if you can get an attractive woman you would want her even if she was 50 with kids let alone 30. Please, most men can’t get attractive women to be this picky but continue spreading misogynist shit like this. There’s a reason why YOU ARE still single
I am dating a very sweet woman. It's been going great. Thanks and I will keep asking whatever I want when I want. Appreciate the LOVE.
I wouldn't be quite that black and white about it, but yes there's a lot of truth in this. A woman that's in her 30's is single by her choice. That is she may not be satisfied with her options, but she has chosen to be single over them. If given a chance, and maybe a little effort on her part GUARANTEED some guy would snap her up.
There is some truth to that for sure
I sometimes get cussed at in social settings when this topic comes up. I don't really have the time or the inclination to write a long detailed comment. All I will do is trigger some people and honestly I rather not do that. I will just say this. What sex is it that is making the vast majority of tic tok videos complaining and crying about not being able to find a mate? I will leave it there and bow out of this.
No that is a crazy thing to say. Women in their 30's are very much sought after!
By who though?
Men in their 30's who have finally grown up and realize what part of life they are presently missing out on. Guys ready to settle down and have a real family.
Lol men in their 30’s want women in there 20’s
A distinction should be made between being sought after for sex, and sought after for commitment...
@Truthatanycost Excellent point
It's Simple Actually. When we consider the majority here. Men marry in life for 2 things procreation & happiness. Women on the other hand have talks of getting married as children. Which shows you marry just for title of being married more times than not. Which means if your not married in your 30s no man wanted to marry you vs a man who actually has a reason to marry certain women. Also women are the choosers or society when it comes to relationships more times than not. You set the standard kinds of what kind of relationship you'll have. Society has made that obvious with feminist /me too movements. Good men get shot down every day for being too short not the right color size or not having enough money. Which are minor things to a man bc ambition never leaves us. You may have made the choice to be single by your actions but more times than not they weren't on purpose.. - My Take The Guru
I personally don't think anything is wrong with a single 30 yr. old woman. For whatever reason people think 30 is old and it isn't. 30 is still young.
I don't acknowledge that there could be something "wrong" with a pretty single 30 year old female. For all I know she could know its better to be ALONE at ANY AGE than miserable in a relationship.
2 word: biological clock.
A man in his 30s has either just entered or is about to enter his prime.
A woman in there 30s is leaving her prime and within a decade or so will be largely useless to a man for children. She is running out of time to secure a family
That is not granular enough. Age should not be a determinant of eligibility. If you would reject somebody just based on their age you're not taking a close enough look at them.
Age is always determined.
I was dating 30+ women in my early 20's, often less fickle and flaky.
I've always appreciated calm and reasonable, with a dash of excitement from time to time...
Dating is different for men and women, no single woman wanna date broke guys but younger women can date as many guys as they want being broke. A lot of high-earning and reputable careers take a long time to education with less money at the start. Those men even start earning decent after 30. Most of the time they have hard times while they were young, unlike women in the same fields.
I don’t agree with it but it is the way our society has jumped on the band wagon. I think it is wrong. Totally wrong.