Will a woman in general date a man who makes less then them?

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Tiffany_Taylor_Made · Accepted Answer

Determining whether or not women will generally date men with less income than their own requires meticulous research and statistics to quantify. Instead, many people are answering the question by only providing their personal experiences, which does not actually address the issue at hand. Answering this question is not simple, as many wide-reaching studies on women's dating preferences for men who make less money are practically non-existent. However, based on the data that does exist, much of the information suggests that women typically prefer not to date men who make less money than they do. According to a survey of 3,000 singles across the United States conducted by the dating site "Plenty of Fish," more than 1 in 5 women — 22% — say they wouldn’t date someone who makes less money than them. That’s compared with just 4% of men and 11% of single people overall who said they wouldn’t date someone who makes less money than they do.

One of the main reasons women generally prefer not to date men with less income than their own is because they believe that such a relationship will economically disadvantage them. More often than not, men that are in relationships with women that make more than them tend to be moochers, which could result in the woman feeling like she is taking care of them like a son rather than helping to sustain a lasting relationship. This could lead to a toxic relationship if the woman ever decides not to give the man handouts. In addition, 69% of women in the same study said that they don't feel comfortable paying all the bills and/or being the main breadwinner in the relationship. Another reason could be blamed on societal expectations. Because men are more able-bodied, stronger, and bigger than women on average, they are expected to do most of the work and earn the most money.

In addition, men often get paid more than women, even when working the same job. As a result, men are simply expected to have more money and provide for their families. Because women can get pregnant, they often must undergo maternity leave, which could temporarily halt their own chances of supporting themselves and their families. As a result, the man should be available to step up and provide for the family. Doing so is simply much easier when the man is able to make more money. Of course, this isn't to say that all women prefer to date men with more money. Women should be able to date who they love. However, women should also note the risks of dating a man that makes less money and determine whether or not he truly loves her or if he simply wants a woman to help take care of him similar to a son.

DubiousIntentions · Accepted Answer

When you say less than them that can mean even $!. You should say, if they make a significant amount less than the woman. If it were over $10,000, It would get me thinking.

MrOracle · Accepted Answer

Most women in 2023 will not. Some will, but if he doesn't make enough to cover at least half of the main bills with a little left over, she probably won't stay for long. It's a pretty small minority who are willing to be the primary bill payer in a sustained relationship.

Someone dug up an old post of mine from a decade ago where I mentioned that women had gotten far more reasonable in 2008-2010 during and just after the last recession, because their own lifestyles had fallen so much, while their demands were crazy in the early 2000s when credit was easy and everyone was refinancing and pulling out money from their homes. We've gotten back to that point again, with the economy going so well prior to COVID, and the rise of Instagram and OnlyFans. And the SIMP men are just as much to blame as the women.

We're coming up on another big correction. As usual, the Tech industry is leading by cutting 200,000 jobs (Elon had to demonstrate by cutting 85% of Twitter, which was all dead weight and Woke activists), but AI is soon going to decimate corporate office jobs like nothing anyone has ever seen. People who aren't getting their hands dirty are going to be replaced by AI over the next 5 years by 80-90%. And robotics will even replace many physical jobs, such as Amazon warehouse workers. Most people aren't paying attention or believe it's far into the future, but it isn't. We're right on the threshold now. As Bob Dylan sang, "the times, they are a'changing."

John_Doesnt · Accepted Answer

I saw a guy asking women on the street how much they think their future husband should make and every woman said way over 6 figures. One dumb bimbo even said $500,000 a year. And she wasn't even a super hot 10/10.

OlderAndWiser · Answer

I've dated women who were millionaires and I am not. Yes, it happens.

AmandaYVR · Answer

Some will, but majority won't, it appears. Relational dynamics are changing in dating, but not that much, yet.

Avicenna · Answer

Some will, most will not

DizzyDesii · Answer

I have many times before. I dont care how much he makes but I do care that he wants to improve in life. One guy kept getting fired every other month and he never saved up towards his future. He spent every check on fast food and video games/consoles. Huge turnoff. We got to a point of saving for an apartment. I was saving 50%-75% of each check. He was saving 10% of each check and spent the majority of his checks to save up for yet another family cruise (but promised to later makeup for it.) Huge turnoff. He wanted a better car so I tried to buy him one and he got mad and said it made him feel like less of a man. It just really irked me that people care that much about money and who makes more. I just want to help out eachother if need be. But for the most part, i prefer we keep our finances completely separate, never having a joint account, and only paying our share of the bills

BoopBoopBeep · Answer

I've dated women in the past who make more than me. There comes a point where how much more you have than $X just doesn't change a whole lot. I don't need her income she doen't need mine, we're both above $X, so who makes more than whom isn't more than "fun fact" really.

I took 8 months off to work on the house and relax after a long deployment. Not sure if my then S. O. made more than me that year or not. I've never really had anything but somewhat shallow conversations about how much they've made over the years. Far more important to me is that you spend less than you make, WHATEVER that is. I know a GREAT many poor 6-figure earners and I know some people making $50k work for a family who are living quite comfortably.

Miristheiss · Answer

Back in the day, women just wanted their guy to have a good, stable job.

I read that a lot of women today, as they are working and they are making more money... still want the guy to make more. So even if she makes good enough money to be "independent" and to not "need a man" ... she still will shrink and shrink their potential dating pool by only wanting men that make more than her so as she makes more... she is willing to date fewer and fewer men because their salary has to go up and up.

CaptainOverthink · Answer

I think so yes.
I think hypergamy is generally real, but I think people miss the point about status.
Status is not just money and suits and cars.
Status requires no money, really.
- You can have high status in a smaller group of people just for the way you treat your friends, that can tip it all in your favor.
- You can have infamous status and radiate attraction just for being fearsome. It won't work on just anyone, sure, but still, in the right crowd it will.
- You can just be really good at something that makes people give you attention, then you'll have status.

But in the end status is mostly a superficial thing, you still have to have personality and grit to keep whoever gives you a chance.

zeitgeist057 · Answer

Absolutely. I don’t know about wealthy men, but many wealthy women don’t care that much about money, they just see it as a tool to enjoy life. When they find a man to enjoy life with, they don’t care a lot about treating him with their money. Of course, if it’s a real mooch situation, smart women who know how to handle money might start to get turned off by being used.

I know one specific example though of a woman from “old money” who had a man who mooched off her and she didn’t actually know a lot about finances so he started to control her finances and “helped” her lose a lot of money. She was being used and it was terrible, but she couldn’t seem to make a boundary with him or get rid of him.

Will a woman in general date a man who makes less then them?

EricSummer · Answer

Yes, here in Geneva, Switzerland, this happens. It is still not as common as it could be, but the trend is there.

Recently, I had two dates with a high-powered female manager who I think earns more than I do. In the end she got back together with her ex, but it was not a matter of earnings, I'm sure. Anyway, she had been with him since college so they did not even have jobs back then.

This was before I met my girlfriend. She does not make more than I do, but a breakthrough may still happen. I do not think she would dump me then.

I also know a female senior manager of a large company who is married to an artist who surely makes nowhere near the money she does. She says they admire each other for what they do. She surely likes his art and the exhibitions and contacts this involves.

sheikalana · Answer

My partner has a very decent salary but I still make more money than him. In the past this used to be an issue for me but I had to accept that most people won't have a salary like mine. Nowadays I don't have any problem with that because I see that my partner is a very hard working man and career oriented and doesn't take advantage of how much money I make at all.

BobLouis · Answer

Some guys say that they hate materialism in the west and all they do is work to make money to impress a woman. Which they end up with a material girlfriend. The thing that they claim not like. Then they end up in a divorce or break up. It's better you find someone who likes you for you.

Alex8736 · Answer

One of my least favorite conversations is talking about money where I feel it really is the root of all evil especially when it comes down to things like an inheritance as an example. What I look for is someone who is responsible, self reliant, has a job (unless involuntarily laid off), great personality and a sense of humor. In my experience I have dated women who made more and others who made less but a few friends of mine who were also successful can't even get an SO in a whorehouse with a fistful of $100's because their main obsession is money where no matter how much they have, they are always complaining they don't have enough. I once took a personality test that asked "would you rather be super rich and alone or would you rather scrape by with your needs and be loved"

Smashingdoozy · Answer

The vast majority of women don't go into a relationship thinking about how much the other person makes. Its more if you're an adult and you're able to sustain your own lifestyle and have savings then that's perfect. Doesn't have to be a lot of money

Billlewis · Answer

Just because he makes less than her doesn't necessarily mean that he doesn't have any money. I earn only a modest income, but I'm a savvy investor and I save money religiously. I do these things to a great extent to make myself more appealing to my potential new owner.

RavVid · Answer

Not at all likely. Wealthy women want wealthier men is what the evidence shows.

I think it is more to do with a deep seated need for a woman to respect a man rather than the wealth itself. Wealth is just an easy quantitative measure that he is better than her and therefore worthy of her respect.

It is plausible a man is better than her in some way other than wealth. For example humanitarian fields. But I think it will be important to the woman that he is recognized as such.

HighValue · Answer

From all the real life couples I have known where the woman makes more, she frequently verbally and emotionally abuses the guy. They treat them like a child, are very demanding, get angry and yell at them and insult the guy if he goes anywhere or buys anything (with his own money) without her permission.

From what I have seen, women can't handle being a decent human being if they have the upper hand in anything in a relationship.

Unit1 · Answer

I'm not afraid of being rejected or dumped for me making less money than her. This says more about the girl than me.

Rich men can always come along and try to steal her for all i care. I'm not afraid.

With that being said, yes, women are indeed dating men, who make much less money than her.

Anonymous · Answer

i've been with my partner for over 6 years. he's always made less than me. he's making closer to my amount now, but still a few thousand less, not by much. some girls just don't care.

ericclayton · Answer

There are some women who have that hangup but it's not as universal as the invels claim. There are other ways to be a man other than higher income.

katiesmuff · Answer

I use to date guys who made less than me and our incomes never even became a factor.

sheenagwapa · Answer

if hypothetically i have a lot of money i eill absolutely date someone who is poor

inhua · Answer

no because such a man would be seen as nothing more than a leech. fair or unfair that's how reality is. and then when divorce happens, she don't wanna be the one to pay alimony and child support

msc545 · Answer

No, I don't think so. Women generally date men that will spend money on them and a man who makes less than a woman will be reluctant to spend his money that way.

DermalPunch · Answer

Men date men who are broke nevermind making less All. The. Time. For all these guys in here saying woman only want rich dudes... maybe your personality sucks and you can't communicate or have an interesting conversation.

hahahmm · Answer

Women in general: no. Can it happen, sure. A guy would be wise to focus on making the most of his own life and not looking for a woman to improve his financial situation.

molonski2 · Answer

Its happens sometimes sure , if the female has a great career , so the answer would be Yes , but more often than not , it will be the other way around.

Dysney1023 · Answer

I am living and breathing proof women would. Lol twice. And I’ve dated 5 people in my existence. Money is not gonna buy love. Never has, never will.

Anonymous · Answer

It depends on many factors. But yes a woman will date a man that makes less than her if she truly believes he's more attractive then her.

RingOfFire · Answer

They might date them for a while, but sooner or later if he doesn't put out the monaaay... he's toast.

OfMiceandMen · Answer

Not typically. Younger women tend to go for guys who are more established and slightly older than they are.

richardcory · Answer

For the first many years we were dating, the married, my wife had more money and earned more money than I did. Was never an issue

kellytheman · Answer

Yeah I have had dated a woman who made way more than me however she was a little older and a good career in real estate. I also dated a girl who was a daddy's girl that paid for everything and she spend more than I could make in a year.

LovingJo · Answer

It's never about money, for me!! 💯❤️

jshm2 · Answer

Yes. Good dick is like a drug. It's why even rich chicks will fuck the pool cleaner if he's any good.

JamesRandiDebates · Answer

Date? No. But most well-off women fuck the pool boy or personal trainer.

Hispanic-Cool-Guy · Answer

Yes but the difference won't be drastic.

You will hardly ever see a woman earning $100,000 a yr and dating a man making around $40,000 a yr.

People date other people within their social circle, hardly ever out of it.

xamm89 · Answer

I think it depends on how much less. But to much and it's likely a no

ProbablyClueless · Answer

Most women I know would lose respect for their men if the men weren't able to provide for the family.

strateguy632 · Answer

if i were a girl i would not date even gap $ 1000 less per month or 10k year.

humanearth · Answer

I think most women don't care about income. I believe most women will choose love over money. Most women are not that shallow

LiamJHayden · Answer

Just from experience, I think it might depend on tax bracket. If he's pulling $150K+ and she's pulling $200K+ she is far less likely to care than if he's pulling $40K and she's pulling $90K.

pervertedjester · Answer

Usually, provided there's a talent involved. The starving artist trope comes to mind.

runnerboy · Answer

Why not it is the person that counts not how much they earn.

Massageman · Answer

If she's looking for a good relationship , sure. If she's a gold digger, not likely.

Nikki1989 · Answer

Yes, not a problem.

BarryLiverstone · Answer

I’ve never asked out someone on a first date knowing their financial assets.

Wise4myage · Answer

If a woman does to that then they are shallow.

Christoff92 · Answer

It all depends on how the relationship works brother 😀

Staximus · Answer

That depends on the woman, but most will not

BLP11520 · Answer

Men need to get off their dead asses and work there are high paying jobs even with out A degree I had 2 years of college and earn near 80000

Anonymous · Answer

Only for short term boom boom. Of course always exceptions but generally no

elizamichale1 · Answer

Its both no n yes tbh

gothbxtch · Answer

sure, i don’t see why not

Likes2drive · Answer

Hard to know these days

Guardian45 · Answer

Date? Maybe. Stay with? NOT a chance!

KrakenAttackin · Answer

Women so not date down.

shades777 · Answer

I don't know all the women I've dated made less

genericname85 · Answer

some career women do.

boobliker · Answer

it dose happen but not often

red_knight · Answer

No fucking way. They're too brain washed.

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