Saw a couple girls who think you HAVE to pay for the girl on a first date. If men aren't entitled to sex, why do women think they're ENTITLED to being paid for?
Men are not entitled to sex no matter what they do. The woman looks at your genetics (AKA YOUR LOOKS) she senses your testosterone levels (HOW HEALTHY YOU ARE).
And later she determines wether she wants to reproduce with you or not. Wether you pay or not is irrelevant. I've gotten gifts and food from men. Men that I would never reproduce with due to how low quality their genetics are. 🖕 Not in a million years.
I’ve slept with other men on a first date because how good their genetics are based on just looking at them. So I’d prefer to risk a pregnancy with their DNA.
Most of us determine wether someone is a select-male within the first hour of meeting him and talking to him. The depth of his voice also signals high testosterone and good genetics.
A $20 meal is not worth me risking an entire pregnancy, pregnancy-complications, childbirth, death by childbirth, bloodloss from childbirth, postpartum depression, me being instinctively stuck with an entire baby for the rest of my entire fertile life. For 18 years. 🖕 A $50 or $60 meal is not worth of any of that risk.
You sound desperate, sounds to me like you need to seek WORKING-WOMAN a PRO——TUTE. A woman who can take care of desperate men for cash. 🖕 If you want to pay for sex. That’s what you need to do. Seek a Pro—tute or go Thailand. Become a passport bro. Because no woman in her right mind is about to reproduce with you for 20-60 bucks. 🖕
YOU SOUND LIKE SKIPPY THE DESPERATE VIRGIN. A KISS FOR A KLONDIKE BAR 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
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This type of topic will have people looking for whatever they want to see. Personally whenever I dated the only time I let guys pay for me was when I was interested in potentially pursuing a relationship with them (whether it led to one or not) and if I wasn’t interested I would pay for myself because I didn’t want to feel obligated to that person. I was not a promiscuous person either. Men are not entitled to sex (and you’re trash if you truly think that you are) nor are women entitled to be paid for as far as first dates go. But if I am honest men should always offer to pay for the first date and if you’re interested accept it and if you are not then pay for yourself. My boyfriend is a provider and if I didn’t like him I personally wouldn’t let him do that, he does so much for me and it is reciprocated in different ways
So reading through the answers it appears to be your classic selective reading skills from folks on GaG. I'm assuming that you are not saying you per se are entitled to sex on a date, or that most men think the same way either. I think what you're saying is the same thing I've debated as well: that women seem to think it's okay or should be acceptable for a guy to pay for them on a date, but that it's unacceptable if a guy thinks he should get sex on a date. I believe this is the point you're trying to make, correct?
Women feel like they're entitled to a free meal or free night out and that it's a man's job to pay her way, but they think a guy is slime if he feels entitled to sex on a date. Yes, it is a double standard, and yes any woman who feels this way should never get another date and probably not a relationship either.
How about stop seeing life as a comparison and wanting to get your fair gain? "Its not fair!" Last I heard that was from my four year old. Gawd. And to think so many little boys still cry "its not fair" well into their 60s. Bunch of little whiny bitches.
You see, a woman wants a MAN, not a BOY. A man pays for a date, not because its expected of him but because he wants to. And he necessarily does so without any expectation or gain. He is a gentleman. Plenty of good women want a gentleman. So it kinda makes sense they inwardly hope you'll be one when going on a date...
I certainly had no problems getting any women. Hell, a lot of times I had to turn women down.
If your idea is paying for a date and getting ass afterwards, you got your priorities mixed up. A date isn't prostitution.
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u You san sit on the sidelines, honing your arguments about the logic of the situation. The rest of us are out there dating and having fun.
Girls expect what they expect because they grew up being told that is what they should expect. It's not necessarily logical but it's imprinted. And since girls who want a LTR are looking for a guy who can support them and a future family, having a guy pay for dates is a test of that ability. Yeah, you can tell us that it isn't fair, but that's the way it is.
And do you really want a girl who will have sex with you on the first date just because you bought her a steak or a seafood dinner? Is that the girl that you want to be the role model for your future daughters?
So this is how the world works. There are men who like paying for the first date, and womeb who expect men to pay for the first date.
Then there are men who don't pay for the first date, and women who don't think men should pay.
So what you do is find a woman or man who matches what you expect and date them.
See this is dating 101 find the partner that makes you happy because they have similar values.
Or you could come on gag and complain about the women that think in a way you don't like🤷🏾♀️
Now, after reading this, I think THIS is the most inane, sexist, and honest to god, stupid question I have seen on this site! So, after asking someone to go to dinner, lunch, breakfast, coffee, tea, etcetera, and a guy paying for her meal, (as he should, since he invited her!!!) he should have access to her vagina?
Wow, talk about a egotistical sense of 'entitlement'?
I know you can't be serious in asking an idiot question like this, are you? Come on!
Maybe this the way things are done on your planet? Which planet is that?
Just to give you one guys opinion, I won't debate your sense of entitlement. Don't bother.
s Because there’ll always be the minority who still have backwards ways of thinking. There’ll always be men who feel entitled to a woman’s body, and there’ll always be women who feel entitled to a man’s wallet. Not sure where you’re seeing these women, but maybe stop seeing them.. lol.
There is a middle ground to what you are saying. Paying for dates is not entitlement for sex, but it implies that sex is still on the table means there is sexual-romantic interest on part of the woman. If there isn't then it is just a foodie date. Where women date men on the false pretext of sexual-romantic relationships in exchange of food, and other material resources.
The proper comparison would be that women do not owe men sex and men do not owe women commitment. So I would say keep dates simple and cheap and after the third date, escalate and if she doesn't reciprocate then leave.
So you think that picking up the tab when you ask a lady on a date entitles you to sex?
You're looking for cheep prostitutes, dude, not quality ladies. That means you're the lowest kind of man.
I feel sorry for you.
Why does anyone expect anything? Basically it's all a sense of entitlement. Why do they feel that way? Who knows?
Some men think me taking a woman out for dinner should equal sex. They're conditioned to think this way
Some women think if you want to be with me you have to earn it by taking me out a few times without the expectation of sex on the first date and if you show you're willing to put time in and they like you as well then sex happens.
I am not agreeing or disagreeing with either mentality because there are enough couples that agree or disagree with this approach to the game that you just need to find like minded partners.
If men aren't entitled to sex, women aren't entitled to a damn thing from a man as far as I'm concerned. 1 in 3 women admit to going out on dates with guys they have zero attraction to, it's called a "Foodie Call". Between that and the ridiculously insane injustices they perpetuate on men through the family court and welfare systems and false accusations modern Western women are the most parasitic class of humans to ever walk the Earth. Guys like the Tinder Swindler and the Dine and Dash Dater are legit heroes because they do to women what women constantly do to men. If she isn't family or isn't putting out she is worthless to me.
You believe that the woman agreed to implied terms, while she in fact only agreed to what was displayed, a date.
The man thinks, “I will pay for the date, and in return she may allow me to continue wooing her until we have intercourse”. The woman thinks, “I don’t mind going out on a date, he seems decent enough, and I don’t have to commit to anything.”
Maybe instead of thinking, " I'm entitled to have sex with her, just because i put in the effort to date her", think, " if we have a second date, she pays."
Because if you want her, you have to impress her. If you’re not good looking or masculine you have to impress her somehow. 🤷🏻♀️ If you rather be her B-CH. Then make her pay. Cause she’s gonna wear the pants. 🤷🏻♀️
Why the hell would you ask someone out and not pay? 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡 Clowns like you should be locked up for even asking this. 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
A sample size of "a couple of girls" isn't enough to be basing opinions on. You could easily find "a couple of guys" who believe they are, in fact, entitled to sex.
But in any case. How about you go out to dinner with a guy, pay for it, and then suck his dick. Then come back here and tell us how paying for his dinner was exactly the same thing as sucking his dick.
The problem is men judge women for giving it up too easily. Then they complain that women are too much effort. If women didn't have to worry about how they're perceived, most of them would be giving at least head after a date that was paid for by the man.
Well, there is a lot of girls who exploit guys they date but I think you have to take the risk and calculate additional 50% loos. Don't be ridiculous, I assure you most girls with class and some kind of personal elegance won't date a guy just because of a meal in restaurant.
If men aren't entitled to sex,
We shouldn't. We are only entitled to her polite company.
why do women think they're entitled to being paid for?
Paying for a date is a social tradition that emerged where he demonstrates that he has the capacity to support a woman he is courting.
You don't risk a pregnancy when you pay a bill.
But also, women aren't entitled to you paying. You're the one disappointing yourself if you associate with women like that.
These are two very different things.
Nobody is entitled to either. Don't date entitled women 🤷🏻♀️
Well for one, sex and food are definitely not the same thing or aren’t even comparable. Sex is an intimate activity, you’re absolutely not entitled to a woman’s body. And two, the large majority of women will pay for their own food anyway. It’s 2023, most women do not have the mind set that men must pay for our food because we are perfectly capable with paying for ourselves. And three, so many men make insist on paying anyway.
Well firstly we don't, but secondly it's just amazing how bastard children these days really aren't smart enough to see the difference in value between a meal and sex lmao
3 words. Soyboys. Old guys. Because that's who enables them. I personally know females in STATE PRISON in a few states... a quote from 1, directly to me? "Those are the kind we love (old guys) because those are the ones who load up our accounts." Now... if that's what's done for ones in PRISON... what lengths do you think they're going to for ones who aren't?😏
They're not. But you're never going to get to a point in life where women accept REALITY. As long as there's simps that to cater to a woman's whims women will fell entitled. The good news is they're forced to face reality by 40. At that point she accept it or she just gets real bitter.😆
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