Agree or Disagree: Alpha male players get all the good women?

[coachTanthony]

YUP for sure

No that can't be true

[Rosexøxø]

Mmm I don’t know the term of get in this instance.

like laid? Married? V card? Dated?

Cheated on?

I really don’t know.

Though I barely know what alpha men are in this trend either.. 🤔

I’d just say bold men get more women because they make more attempts so the rates of wins and losses are higher overall than a man who is shy/ quiet, but the quiet guy’s chances aren’t exactly zero either.

If this alpha is like “cocky” or chauvinistic. I suppose he may get a few. It will actually be just barely above the shy guy, or below. It’s 50/50 and around there.

it’s if he does something that makes an insecure girl like more self conscious or so or any girl impressed or swooned then they’d fall a bit for that guy with some methodic planning. Some girls catch on quicker and some don’t unfortunately and the guy gets what he wants and she gets HOPEFULLY some type of lesson.

I’d say the smooth players scoop up nice guys and girls and they take like who knows 60-65%?

and cocky guys can take like 10% and shy guys take 10% and those can fluctuate where the shy guy has majority and cocky guy has less and then 20% of the good guys get good girls. It’s rare but they’re all rare. I feel like there has to be a respectably big portion. The biggest for singles. Insecure guys or busy bachelors I don't know and shy girls and busy bachelorettes and just a bunch who are waiting for stuff and busy in their lives.

- Everyone wishes the success rates of them finding compatibility and honesty was much higher though. That’s for sure.

• do alpha cocky guys gets ALL girls? Nope.
• do alpha players get all girls? They get a handful but lose the grip and get a few TEMPORARILY and even smaller chances of keeping some for a few years with bad manipulation or abuse.

They almost always lose the girl though. In some way or another.

• Do alpha confident guys who I don't know make a lot of money or whatever get all the girls? No but they do get a lot of the eligible and looking who are either shallow, selective, or those honestly compatible with them.

[Rosexøxø]

Voted can’t be true. There’s percentages. Not every woman out there is taken by a “alpha league” guy. Not every woman out there is taken by a guy at all. Not every woman out there is taken at all. lol

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

🤣🤣🤣 were you drinking when you posted this 🤔🤣🤣 are people on here EVER going to lay this alpha/beta bs to rest 🤷‍♀️🤣

[Siri137]

I know! I'm SO sick of encountering this CRAP here on GAG! It makes me want to gag!

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

@Siri137 🤣 gag lol that’s literally the initials GAG… fitting isn’t it 🤣

[coachTanthony]

@Brainsbeforebeauty Ha Ha Ha Yes good bourbon

[Siri137]

There's no such thing as good bourbon. Bourbon is whiskey, and that stuff is absolutely VILE.

[ImHere22]

OMG it's always stupid bourbon. Like they think that makes them cool. Nope, just makes them the same as everyone else who thinks they're cool.

[coachTanthony]

@siri137
that is Blasphemous

[coachTanthony]

@ImHere22 go drink your stupid Celsius

[Siri137]

No, it's accurate. Scotch, bourbon, whiskey - they're DISGUSTING! I'd rather drink petrol.

[coachTanthony]

@Siri137 Petrol is a light fuel oil that is obtained by distilling petroleum and used in internal combustion engines; gasoline. Not a good comeback lol

[Siri137]

I know what petrol is. I do, after all, drive a car. It was an expression, a light-hearted expression of disgust with whiskey. Not to be taken literally. Understand? :D

[coachTanthony]

@Siri137 Don't knock it until you try it. and 2 each their own.

[Siri137]

What makes you think I haven't tried it? I have, and I stand by my assessment of that utterly foul liquid!

[coachTanthony]

@Siri137 Then go eat poo and urine and gasoline and leave everyone else alone lol

[Siri137]

Nope, can't do that. Besides, the purpose of asking questions on this site is to elicit responses from everyone else here. It isn't my fault you don't like the responses to your silly question that you're getting.

[coachTanthony]

@Siri137 I love dumb responses just as I love good ones..

[Flatmanlewis]

So, I’ll have to say - I had a life changing moment many years ago. I was sitting in a absolutely splendid proper Irish pub. I took a whiskey shot (Irish of course) and was immediately confronted by an old guy who was absolutely appalled. He insulted my manhood, questioned my worthiness of continuing life, then introduced himself. He bought me some nice Irish whiskey (Middleton) and proceeded to teach my twenty-something ass how to drink proper. Once schooled on the nuances it absolutely changed the experience of drinking hard alcohol, and high end stuff in particular. Before then I would think it was all rubbish. After that I understood.

[Billlewis]

@Siri137 I'm with you -- I hate that shit.

[AnusNdaPainus]

It’s not BS in the world of men there are winners and losers competition is a product of testosterone

Alpha makes money , has his own place , own car, embraces rejection so he is more successful with dating and exercises

Beta broke unemployed , living with mommy and daddy , no car , fears rejection so much he won’t even approach and the only exercise he gets is whacking off this man is a loser

If these were dating profiles which one do you think women would find more attractive

[Siri137]

@AnusNdaPainus How many people do you know who fit into either of those, very neat, categories? The world isn't clearly divided into "winners" and "losers"; that's a gross, and utterly ridiculous, oversimplification of human complexity.

[AmeerX]

@Siri137 same

[KrakenAttackin]

@Siri137 Truth hurts.

[AnusNdaPainus]

@Siri137 I understand you are a woman and you have to put your stupid little feelings first🙄

But men are completely different we don’t rank based off feelings but solely off merits

You asked how many men I know? Every single man 🤯 did you notice how what I said had nothing to do with look’s because every guy capable of being Alpha as long as they are TRYING TO

look at what I said about the beta guy does he sound like a guy who is really trying in life at all?

Which one of these men would women prefer to be with?

[Kingofkings1992]

@AnusNdaPainus it’s BS in the world of anyone worth a lick of respect or energy. At the very least the two meanings are misinterpreted. Alpha is interpreted to mean manly, and beta is interpreted to mean weak and cowardly. It is true some men are more natural leaders and command people’s respect, while some other men are more soft spoken. The terms “alpha” and “beta” are completely irrelevant when referring to humans.

[AnusNdaPainus]

@Kingofkings1992

I get that if you are a guy and you don’t exactly measure up the concept of alpha and betas hurts

But winners compete losers whine

It’s okay to fail what’s not okay is giving up because you failed ANY man can be alpha whether he is soft spoken or not

I’ve had a horrible start to this year but I still get my but up make my bed , shower , brush my teeth and get out there and try the best I can

Perseverance is the mark of a champion being Alpha isn’t some predestined genetic trait
All you have to do is keep trying

[Kingofkings1992]

@AnusNdaPainus ok buddy. YOU can keep trying. Me, on the other hand, i’m not an idiot. Therefore, because I’m not an idiot, I attach no importance to it.

[AnusNdaPainus]

@Kingofkings1992 even an idiot can be Alpha
Look at George Bush Jr.

[SciencePreacher]

Reply #9 "@Siri137 Petrol is a light fuel oil that is obtained by distilling petroleum and used in internal combustion engines; gasoline. Not a good comeback lol"

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Where can I learn more about what petrol is?

[Paul09]

Lol yes. Alpha males was created by a-holes. It doesn't exist. 😂

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

@Kingofkings1992 love your reply 👍

[Kingofkings1992]

@Brainsbeforebeauty thanks friend

[Rosexøxø]

Omg never seen this many likes. Good show! And agree

[ImHere22]

No; that's stupid. Any bro-seph calling himself an Alpha is 100% just an ass. They may tell you "you can be jacked and cool like me bro" while scheming to take your money as soon as they can. These lame jackwads calling themselves "Alphas" are those guys in high school whose crowning achievement was the one lone game the football team won their junior year. And they've never grown past that day.

Lol hence the term Alpha to describe... themselves. They strive to make you believe that they are actually successful. By investing a boatload of money right now right now right now, you too can read books in the shower, get blowjobs from your model wife while she makes you a sandwhich at 1 am after you got back from a 10 hour workout.

Be like the Alphas... LOL

[coachTanthony]

Got it you're not an Alpha.

[Siri137]

And neither are YOU! Geez, why can't guys like you get it through your thick skulls that if you go around saying you're whatever (like "alpha", or strong, or intelligent, or independent) that you're NOT what you think you are, because if you were then you wouldn't need to say it, because everyone would know it. It's like the person who says, "I'm not lying, really I'm not. Trust me".

[coachTanthony]

@siri137 I am the Alpha who trains all the new Alphas

[Siri137]

You're delusional. You're living in a fantasy world of your own creation. Get a life.

[coachTanthony]

@Siri137 I am so sorry but I am not going anywhereeeeeeeeeee bhaahahahahahahahah

[Siri137]

Neither am I. :P

[coachTanthony]

@Siri137 Nobody cares though. If I leave it hits CNN.

[Siri137]

Do you think anyone even knows who you are, nevermind cares whether or not you leave GAG?

[KrakenAttackin]

@Siri137 Guys like him run through girls like you.

[Chelsdope0]

Exactly… they are just Assholes

Real alpha men are family men. Good men…

[Avicenna]

LOL, no. The good women for the most part won't put up with that. The players end up going after the ones that will (who usually aren't "good" women" to try to satisfy their need for volume.

[LaFemmeFatale_1]

Doesn’t matter how “Alpha” the man looks like.

They are all sleeping in your lap and looking up at you like a little puppy behind the closed door.

There’s no such thing as an Alpha man. Real Alpha is a woman, he goes home to every day.

[LaFemmeFatale_1]

Don’t tell them that though.

[AnusNdaPainus]

Silly woman , girls can’t lead 🤣

[AmeerX]

Man is head and women are the neck 🤣

[KrakenAttackin]

"Real Alpha is a women he goes home to"?

[LaFemmeFatale_1]

@KrakenAttackin Any objections? I can’t believe in the existence of men who don’t surrender themselves to the love of a woman.

[LaFemmeFatale_1]

Unless they are gay.

[AmeerX]

@LaFemmeFatale_1 what's to surrender, you think strange sometimes. Love is about being a giver. Being happy with your woman and children for a man. And it extends same to women too, they should not be afraid to talk to their man about their feeling. Being gentle and sensitive is for everyone, it's just how relationships are supposed to be.

[JHAYES317]

Then he wasn’t an alpha in the first place. No real man should be subservient to a woman. Sure, love and respect them and all that. But a simp cannot be an alpha

[KrakenAttackin]

@LaFemmeFatale_1. Ok, I can agree with that AS LONG AS SHE APPRECIATES THE MAN. Too many women punish men who genuinely love them.

[dynamicyandere]

Good women don’t give players the time of day.


Players are just good at hooking up with easy women.


Degenerates attract degenerates.


Quality men attract quality women.

[KrakenAttackin]

@dynamicyandere. Bro, you are soooooo wrong. I have seen my Giga Chad friend regularly fuck "brides" who are doing pub crawls, or wife's he met on an airplane heading to a conference, and plenty more women.

Given the right conditions any women will let a Giga Chad fill her with his baby batter.

[dynamicyandere]

Just because someone is a bride, it doesn’t mean they’re automatically a good woman.

I mean, just look at the 50% divorce rate.

I wouldn’t go as far as to say that ANY woman would be unfaithful under the right conditions.

It depends on how strong their integrity is.

Both men and women fall on a spectrum when it comes to integrity.

Many men AND women would cheat under the right circumstances.

But, it doesn’t mean ALL will cheat.

It’s true that many couples don’t have bulletproof loyalty though.

It takes that ride-or-die level of loyalty for someone’s integrity to be truly bulletproof — the kind where they’d rather die than stab their partner in the back.

[Kingofkings1992]

@KrakenAttackin how are you 44 years old and so immature mentally?

[KrakenAttackin]

@Kingofkings1992 How are you so completely naive?

[KrakenAttackin]

If you think your woman won't cheat given the opportunity, you are a damn fool.

[PetLover24]

Depends on what me mean by "good" women.

The average "alpha" and "player" gets overly hot women who are usually insecure, shallow, petty, nasty in personality and nature, "high maintenance" as some refer to it, etc. and are more interested in the man's bank account than him as a man (eg. if he died of a heart attack in front of her, she'd pick his pockets of wallet & car/house keys and kick his corpse over the curb and down the embankment).

This is sooo sooo well known that it's a comedy act in many tv series, movies, and on pretty much every social media platform and countless channels in numerous languages.

[PetLover24]

*you mean

[Siri137]

So true, and these "alphas" actually believe they're valued by these women for who they think they are. It's sad and funny at the same time.

[PetLover24]

@Siri137 It is sad & funny. But I also look at it as a god's send. It removes what are, in many ways, undesirable people for serious long term dating from the pool.

As they say, birds of a feather flock together.

So you have the "alpha" men - who are often shallow, petty, attitude problems, etc. - attracting women who are shallow, petty, attitude problems, etc.

Just as how "players" - those who sleep around, cheat, have low morals / ethics - are often attracting women who sleep around, cheat, etc.

[PBandJ_Nerd]

Nope, because there's still good women hanging around. Some of us just don't go to him because we don't want him. If we're looking for a serious & loving relationship, he's not our man. No matter how much of a gentleman he makes himself seem, he's still just using women to only have sex with. What us good women don't want.

[Billlewis]

I think you should have specified what kind of relationship you're referring to. Despite the firestorm of criticism that develops every time something like this is posted, we all know that there are lead dogs and average dogs, and with women having more power, clout and leverage today than they've ever had before, the two classes of guys will be ever more clearly delineated moving forward.

However, I think most women still prefer a nice beta male or a guy who's, let's say, 70% beta, 30% alpha for a long term partner. Still, if we're talking about a short term fling, affair or friends with benefits, we all know which guy is far more likely to be chosen.

[Zestyassmf1997]

I voted yes, but I disagree with the notion that they get all the good women. And I’m not a fan of dividing the entirety of men into just two groups. I think it’s…dishonest to sit there and say, “well, she dated player so she can’t be a good girl” in the same way that it’s dishonest to say, “he wasn’t a real nice guy because if he was then he wouldn’t have gotten rejected.” At the same time, there are plenty of women who do actually subject men’s character to actual scrutiny. But as someone who has friends who kind of fit the bill of what we’d typically think of as “alpha” players, I can tell you that his stockpile of girlfriends is unlikely to run dry anytime soon.

[mobiusforniner]

In todays incel society of little angry boys who want a sex object and who get butthurt at every little rejection, a man need not try hard to “get all the women”

[slatyb]

Exactly. Alpha? Forget it. Be a mensch.

[selfish-and-cruel]

So-called alpha are the biggest losers ever. Arrogant, not knowing their place, thinking they have more rights and can expect more when giving back nothing, confusing aggression with assertiveness - a bunch of never-maturing boys whining for attention.

[el_Te_de_la_Rosa]

If those women are really good, why they are temporary?

Alpha males neither, because they don't know how to keep any relationship and make it last.

[aceleon]

mayeb but just maybe, they don't see relationships as something good? giving up on everything you have and every potential experiences you can have, just for 1 ordinary woman? not even poetic anymore and before you go with the ''you won't have anyone when your looks and all things fades away and will get older lonely'' shit, maybe but just maybe again, some of us doesn't want to end up with an old hag who does nothing more than nag for things you can't give any shit to save your life? maybe but JUST maybe we wanna live life to it's fullest and instead of having a trouble for not being alone we just wanna enjoy or solitude and calm state of mind? keeping a relationship work? make it work so we can waste a lifetime of working our asses for never have a break from the turmoil and drag we put ourselves into with you?
pros of a relationship that lasts:
-maybe you might have someone to cook for you (mostlikely will bitch about it even if she doesn't force you to help and most likely will do the easiest and lamest food because she is an lazy ass)
- kids (9 months of having a cranky bitch whoes problems never ends, years of losing sleep over their crying, cleaning poop and pee and vomit, their troubles becoming bigger as they getting older, leeching of on your money and not being happy with what you give, danger of them not turning to a good person and end up being a whore or criminal)
- a constant partner to have sex (even if it doesn't turn into a sexless marriage or a woman using sex as a weapon towards you it will still be a demanding thing that makes you loose interest eventually and as your partner grow older you won't even want to kiss or fuck them anymore)

[aceleon]

cons:
- aside from the things i wrote until now, you will have to give up on the countless hotter, younger, cuter and all of that womans
-your freedom to do whatever you want LİTERALLY.
-giving up on the luxuries only single peoples has
- spliting your life into half
-possibility of cheating and not ever having a easy mind and feel of safety in this modern supreme cheating age
- always having expectations of a person to weigh you down
-no privacy whatsoever, no personal life
-danger of losing half of whatever you gained up until now
-having to deal with another persons problem even if you don't care (at least at the moment)

[el_Te_de_la_Rosa]

@aceleon I see your fustration (Cons and Cons). It seems like you are not ready to love someone. So, do not rush. It's okay to enjoy your life as long as possible. No one can or should pressure you into a relationship when you can't care for anyobody but your own lifestyle. I agree. I think the same. Why should I enter a relationship anyways if I know that one day my partner would see only my negative side when I don't have the look to be admired. Me too, don't want to be used, abandon and be miserable at then end.

One thing I'd like to add. Choose as many as you can, but be prepared when you actually fall for someone, she has a right to choose whether she wants to be with an unpleasant man or not as well.
.
Peace!

[AnusNdaPainus]

Men decide which women get to have relationships though so that doesn’t make sense

[aceleon]

falling for someone? me? the most i can be is getting used to them and for that i never have more than sex with anyone so i think i am safe.
also you see me as an unpleasant guy because you know what is on my mind but i asure you i can be bad at anything but i am an excellent actor and can charm even the most grumpy and antisocial peoples as long as i have something i can work with (like a common topic of interest)

[el_Te_de_la_Rosa]

@AnusNdaPainus Men chase. Women choose. It's the law.

[aceleon]

woman choses sex, man choses relationship, do you see a relationship happening if man doesn2t want it? yes same goes for woman too but iltimately man chases sex not the relationship most of the time.

[el_Te_de_la_Rosa]

@aceleon Okaayyyyyy. It's your life. I understand there are some men who are trapped in a miserable life with bad women who seduce them (but only look for ATM). It's good to be aware of those.🙈🙉🙊 But I don't agree to be with someone just for sex without them knowing your intention. It's not fair. You're still young and you have so much to learn... Take care by the way. Sasuke kung.

[aceleon]

1- stop the young guy thing, seriously? have nothing original to use?
2- money? i literally use internet picked pictures as pp because my phone is broken and i can't buy a new one, i NEVER paid for a girl in my life, LİTERALLY never, ATM? yeah an ATM with minimal money inside that can only fill my stomach and most moneyi have goes to drinking with mates anyway so you can be sure i have nothing on me that can make me seduced into get used like an atm.
3- misearable life? wow now you are just coping, you do realize that at this age, guys just has hook ups and leaves right? no responsibility or ipoteching your life for nothing at all, you may think it as misearable or lonely (like hell marriages are not much lonelier) i see it as FREEDOM.
4- anime character joke? seriously? let me guess you are one of those idiots who sees animes as kid shows? which means i was wasting my time from the beginning, you actually need a brain to understand what you watch has nothing to do with maturity, i have nothing to learn and especially not from you, since you are just narrow minded and judgmental.

[el_Te_de_la_Rosa]

@aceleon
- Man chases sex not the relationship most of the time.
<< Yup. I'm aware of that.
- Young men
<< I apologize if I happened to disrespect you for your age.
- Money
<< Well, it's up to you how you'd like to spend it on. Just be prepared, in case there's something unexpected in the future.
- Miserable life
<< I mean men who are forced to marry women they don't love, but end up have a child with. At first, they only want to use the woman for sex, then later Boom! A baby! Plan ahead, how you'd deal with that... If you don't want to lose your freedom, it's better not to take risks.
- Sasuke
<< I saw your previous profile pic and noticed it's him. That's all.

[aceleon]

the way you wrote looked too sarcastic and arrogant.
also just for not risk having babies or not be bothered by the womans
- i use 3 protection way at the same time if the girl is not one i know (the ones i know wouldn't make me go through with any of that shit they absolutly know i would be a terrible husband) pills, condoms, pulling out, all at the same time, only pills if the girl is an acquantice (might spell it wrong) and just for making sure she doesn't vomit the pill (call me paranoid i dare you) i spend the day with them and keep an eye on them, so far none of them tried to pull a trick like that.

[AnusNdaPainus]

But men ultimately decide which women get access to relationships

[el_Te_de_la_Rosa]

@AnusNdaPainus What if a woman has many options? Think about China, where there're more men than women. It's the woman who chooses. Or in general, you'd like someone you find attractive, other men want her too. It's her task to select who is the best. Of course, it must not be a man who just likes her body and then dumps her.

[AnusNdaPainus]

Women in china don’t have more options women in china are facing a singleness epidemic because they are too career oriented and less focused on family

You be surprised to know that most successful Chinese men worth dating WANT CHILDREN and Chinese women refuse to quit their careers in order to be a housewife which is why Chinese men opt out of marriage

It’s considered shameful in their culture for a woman to propose and also for her to be single and unmarried over the age of 30 the problems we face in western societies Asian cultures have been dealing with for awhile now

The men don’t want to marry the women because they aren’t wives which is why birth rates in countries like Japan , China and Korea are dropping and too much of the population is elderly

[el_Te_de_la_Rosa]

@AnusNdaPainus Yes. I watched that report the day before. The action of Chinese ladies is "choosing", not to be with anyone. Maybe that's only my perception.
That's sad for the leftovers (I don't like the word), who are forced to marry men with no job. I'd do the same.

[AnusNdaPainus]

People with “Choice” aren’t forced to do anything

Women control access to sex not relationships
That’s why when you hear the word “incel” you think of a sexless man

[RebelinSteel]

I really hate this alpha beta rubbish, the only place I really see it and use it, is in Social Engineering. There an Alpha is a mode where you do not think and Beta is the mode where you are thinking. Want to con someone, get them into Alpha mode, also known as stupid mode.

[EmyyWolf]

From my 5 years of experience in my 20’s.
THEY DO LOL. 😆 THEY LITERALLY GET THEM ALL. EVERY LAST ONE. THE GOOD ONES AND THE BAD ONES.

I was a virgin at 22yo, I only wanted the Alpha Chad and no one else. 🖕 everyone wasn't him, I wanted to see them D—EAD 🪦

[Pohjolan]

All? Nah I know enough of other examples.

Fuckboys/players get a disproportionately large number but even they have other things to do than running a harem 24/7.

Sheikhs have servants for that.

[Billlewis]

Yes, Sir. Where, approximately would you view yourself on the scale of alphas to betas, if I may ask?

[Pohjolan]

@Billlewis
Are you using a wolf pack hierarchy to describe human hierarchies while leaving out mid level and omega?

[Billlewis]

I'm not familiar with all of the statues levels; I was just curious as to where you would place yourself on the scale.

[Pohjolan]

@Billlewis
If we go with the wolf hierarchy then I would be hunting prey and protecting the pack so a delta?

[Billlewis]

Excellent! Thanks very much, Sir!

[Billlewis]

It's so humiliating when I read comments from the women, saying, 'Yeah, the guy who just paid was buying me drinks all night... God, I think he spent about $80... but I knew I wanted to go home with the guy sitting next to the juke box... about twenty minutes before they closed, the drink buying guy went to the bathroom, and me and the other guy had already decided to take off the next time he got up, and he drove me home, spent the night, and it was really, really good... yeah I've been seeing him whenever we're both off the next day'

[sawno]

So many girls are actually turned off by that behavior. They seek loving caring good father types, providers who are mentally sound. Not the guy who is the loudest in the room and fought for his position at the top that most of the room doesn't even care about.

[Danzigdawson]

The teenage boys who voluntarily reduces themselves to the status of alpha males are people pleasers trying really hard not to look like it.

We're human beings and as such, our experience of life is a little more complex than that of elephant seals.

And yes, women see right through you. Just be yourself.

[NathanDavis]

no idea about all the good...

but I got the best...

[GuyAnswersGirls123]

I've got the very best of wives so I figure they don't get all of them! 🍻

[RavVid]

depends on what you mean by good women.

The ones that are best looking? The ones that are working on their body count the most devoutedly.

[Unit1]

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[Siri137]

Here, this is for you.

[coachTanthony]

Bahahahahahaha please vote this a serious poll

[Siri137]

I did vote. I voted no, but even so I do not believe you could possibly be serious about this rubbish.

[coachTanthony]

Maybe I am not serious about this... you'll never know but thanks for the vote

[ImHere22]

No, we ARE taking it seriously. As serious as one can when asked a ridiculous question.

[mandyfire98]

Get in what way? One night stands? Relationships? Marriage?

[Green96]

All of that

[mandyfire98]

Marriages, no because players don't get married they stay on the dating scene.

Relationships? No because players only want to hookup.

Hooking up, one night stands? Possibly.

[mandyfire98]

If they use that term though in front of women they aren't really a man's man but more than likely use that term because it's what they think a man's man is. They aren't genuine, they're faking it until they make it.

[Chelsdope0]

After a certain age … if men are still “players “ I find them to be closeted

[mandyfire98]

Interesting. I've honestly never considered that.