Should Movie Tickets & Streaming Subscription prices go up so Writers & actors get paid more?

[Drewtate]

Yes

No

Some of those actors and writers should owe money

[BCRanger10]

No, they should not. And if for no other reason than this. We don't have to see their movies or watch their shows. We peasants choose to do so, and in turn make them rich because we want to and choose to.

If you ask me, this strike should continue indefinitely. That way, studios will be forced (presumably) to see which writers are producing quality stories, which performers actually do well in bringing said stories to life, and which projects produce results. Likewise, they would be forced (again, presumably) to shrink their budgets and do more with less. And, of course, the performers themselves would have to take smaller paychecks and get an idea of what us peasants deal with.

As it regards this particular spoiled brat that no one knew existed or cared about in one direction or the other until five and a half minutes ago, she ought to remember that she was hired for this role for only one reason: To inject racial and feminist politics into another soulless reimagining of a beloved classic that will inevitably fail. That failure, I'll hazard, is the intention in order to feed the narrative that everyone who doesn't like it is a racist and sexist. The studios would also be forced to stop doing that as well.

Again, presumably.

[bingbongbangbung]

Disney is already looking into replacing writers with AI

[Drewtate]

@bingbongbangbung they be better hiring a 1000 monkeys with a typewriter having watched recent content

[Drewtate]

Can you imagine if the woke nazis had gotten a hold of Top Gun. Maverick would have been turned into a black transwoman who lectures the white pilots about privledge, sodomises rooster and ends up aborting the mission to join forces with the enemy

[blueonblack22]

The industry is changing because the world is changing. This is reminiscent of how the taxi cab unions were bitching and moaning about Uber. However the taxi industry decided to stay complacent for 70 years. Technology changed and it wiped it out because consumers wanted something different. AI is changing the entertainment industry now.

Anyway I was briefly involved with fight choreography and some low budget film acting years ago. I did it more for fun. I have an IMDb profile and I joined sag-aftra. But I did it more out curiosity.

Anyway I got to see just how much goes into a life and A LOT goes into well beyond what you see on the screen. Editors, makeup artists, screenwriters, producers, investors, etc. Most of these people aren’t living high in the hog either.

But here is a brutal reality. This is the entertainment industry. Is “entertainment” required for survival for most people? Are our hearts going to stop beating if we don’t get another game of thrones series for a while? Sure it’s part of cultural, our pastime, our memories, etc.

However is everybody going to have a shortened lifespan if we don’t get all the new TV shows and movies?

[menina]

No, because that's not the problem. From what I saw the problem is that the executives behind the big entertainment companies aren't willing to share the profit from movies and tv shows. They make millions but the writers and actors don't get paid enough for what they do.

That being said, yes they already make a lot of money (writers and actors) but if they work, then letting the executives stay with all of that cash is not fair.

Besides if prices go up people will stop going to the movies or paying for streaming subscriptions.

[menina]

*keep all of that cash

[Drewtate]

They are losing money

[menina]

They are and they will lose even more money if the strike continues.

[CupcakeTheDestroyer]

The billionaires that sign their checks are unwilling to give up 1% of the profits they get — a percentage that would be spread out among all of their actors and writers because it’s enough to sustain them and give them better lives. But are they going to give it? No, because they can’t possibly fathom losing 1% of their profits which is just bad capitalism because the easiest way to make your business better is to take your profits and invest it back into your business.

[BCA6010]

I have no sympathy for the writers, and basically none for the actors either.

The writers have some valid concerns about AI and not having any access to the actual numbers for shows, but they're demanding excess writing staff be kept onboard even though it's uneconomical and AI assistants makes that completely counterintuitive anyway. On the other hand, there's absolutely no reason why the viewing numbers for streaming service movies and shows should be hidden, aside from the obvious fact that most new shows have badly underperformed. This is while consciously ignoring the fact show business is inherently a gig economy in a recession environment, but they want the bloat and stability of a salaried office career.

I somewhat sympathize with the up and coming actors who are trying to get their foot in the door, but the more recognizable, out of touch people (like Rachel Ziegler) are sabotaging them, whether they realize it or not, and so now the serious actors are just finding work in other countries.

In my opinion, the writers should be given full access to the viewing numbers of streaming content, as should the public. In just about every other respect however, they should be told to pound sand, and if the market demand for writers only calls for ~30% of them to keep regular work, then the rest need to find a new calling.

[rigmarole]

They can charge whatever they want. People will choose if their services are worth the money or not. The more prices rise, the less customers you get. I don’t care how they run their business, I don’t own any of their stock or use their services. That said, from an economic stand point high prices tend to make for bad business. Often companies try to move volume fast. When a product doesn’t move, prices get slashed to encourage purchases. If a product really sucks it gets liquidated below cost... They could try to reach more customers with better prices, or they can up prices and lose market share. In my opinion most streaming services have a poor product filled with a bunch of woke garbage. When you have a bad product, raising prices is never the answer to sucess... It’s really their business to sink at the end of the day. Companies come and go all the time.

[Massageman]

The big wigs, producers, streaming services, et al can do anything they want- as far as what they want to pay or not pay- to any employee group or entity. In the end, the marketplace will determine what the people are willing to pay for or NOT pay for.

[jshm2]

It's nothing to do with price.

The current laws protect the rights and contacts of live and broadcast performance - not stream.

Hence streaming services have a licence to steal, in effect. They do not need to legally pay out the same amounts as they do for live, dvd or broadcast.

[Drewtate]

So it's a matter of law then.

[LiamJHayden]

Well, they are paid for streaming but unless otherwise specified it is pro rate based upon what they were paid for the original. In general that is a pittance.

[Drewtate]

@LiamJHayden find a job that pays better

[jshm2]

More than that. It's why Johannsen was pissy about Disney streaming Black Widow. She wasn't getting paid much for it.

www.wsj.com/.../scarlett-johansson-sues-disney-over-black-widow-streaming-release-11627579278

If that's the "star" complaining, then how much of a pittance are the rest getting who can't afford the lawyers?

[Drewtate]

Think she had a signed contract that they broke

[DextroShade]

Hollywood has been doing a shitty job of making entertainment this past decade because they care more about shoving their woke agenda down everybody's throats than they do about making good content. Most of the movies that have done well lately like Mario, Top Gun, and Guardians of the Galaxy 3 had no or minimal wokeness. If they want a raise they should do better work.

[UnWokeDude_OrNot]

So it is happening in Hollywood as well. Japanese animators who have contributed to the anime industry with some of the most amazing animations also get paid shit.

The executives at these companies take the lion's share. That is why I pirate. Because the money does not reach those who take efforts. The real efforts.

[ManOnFire]

This is an insult. Actors and Hollywood writers are already making 10x more than the average working person. We need to give them any more excuses to get more money.

[Lynx122]

They should just figure out a system for actors and writers to get a share of the profits like they used to before streaming started. Like get some money per 100 views on a streaming service or things like that. Instead the companies take everything and the talent has to figure out how to survive unless they're a star.

[provokeesmokee]

Dude that's so stupid.

Dock CEO and shareholder payouts to pay your talent, and dock cinema CEO and shareholder payouts to lower admission costs.

Prices aren't going up because people need living wages. Inflation, while partially real, is definitely driven in recent years by corporate greed and profit motive.

Bruh. Learn how money flows in business if you wanna have hot takes.

[bingbongbangbung]

Except that shareholders will never agree to that, and would sue the shit out of the executives if that were to happen

[genericname85]

you have the basics of economics backwards. prices are set by demand. not by an arbitrary idea of what someone deserves.

[Drewtate]

But there is no demand, they've priced themselves out of it

[genericname85]

there is no demand for what?

[Drewtate]

Movie theatres have seen a massive drop in attendance in the last 10 years. Partly due to streaming services but then there were rental dvds and videos b4 those so it's not entirely that. The tickets are too expensive and the movies generally crap.

[genericname85]

Ok. So then why should the prices be increased if there's a lower demand? Makes nonsense to me. If people don't wanna pay for the service or product you offer, you're not gonna sell it.

[coachTanthony]

It's no different then business. CEO making 20 mil a year the workers making 12 bucks an hour. Studio and Lead actors making 100 million and writers and low level actors make dick.

[RavVid]

There is an argument for them getting a percentage of the gross of a movie but they should be prepared to have to pay money for a dud they have written.

[exitseven]

Since covid there really have not been any movies that I would really pay to see. I don't think that they deserve a raise. The studio excecs deserve to be fired.

[MysticDevice]

Prices don't need to go up for that. Studios have plenty of money. They're just unwilling to pay.

[Drewtate]

If studios don't make money they won't make movies or TV shows

[JackCarter]

They are already being paid more than enough LOL

[VforVindication]

I don't really care because i ditched renting them or getting a movie subscription or even going to the cinema. I will go back to the cinema eventually one day, but not for now. I have chosen to do what i used to be against to see all the movies and shows i want without a fee.

[BigDog1989]

It's bound to happen anyway, thanks to trumps tax cuts for the rich

[Drewtate]

Biden is president

[Smashingdoozy]

No, they don't need to go up. Higher ups can take pay cuts which they wouldn't even notice to pay cast, crew and writers a livable wage.

[exitseven]

Yes, it is the execs that decide to make movies that nobody wants to see.

[AviatorTom]

The producers and studios should share more of their profits with the actors and writers, especially when it comes to streaming services.

[Fireguy17]

Maybe the actors could take less money and pay the writers more.

Without the writers telling them what to say they wouldn't have a job.