I think it depends at what point you find out its not your child.
Here im germany and probably most of Europe you have to aknowledge your fatherhood after the child is born.
Basically like signing the birthcertificate.
If you don't do this, no child support.
If you find out years after birth, i would still consider the father the father of the child, like an adoption.
Also you are traumatising the child, by abondoning him. This kind of relationship is not based on shared dna.
You may be angry on the woman, but the child still sees you as the father.
yes it is based on dna. why should a man care for a child that isn't his own. i will only raise children if i know they share my dna, i'm not gonna allow another man to best me and have me raise his kids, nah he can do that, not me.
what a weak, cucked opinion.
No. He shouldn’t. At least not if he was unaware that it wasn’t his kid and he has no relationship with the child. Parents aren’t always biological. If he still considers himself the kids dad, or if he knew the kid wasn’t his and chose to pay at first anyway, then he should have to. Also, if the other parent deliberately lied to him, he should be able to press charges. But only if he can prove that the other parent knew that he wasn’t the father (not just that he might not be) and lied and said he was. So logically, most cases wouldn’t get very far.
At the same time, I understand why guys often do have to pay. All laws relating to child custody in the United States have to do with what is in the child’s best interest, not what is in the parents best interest, willing or unwilling.
Yeah it sucks and this is just another instance of the man getting screwed by being required to pay child support for kids that are not his. I guess you should never marry or have a relationship with anyone who has kids. I wonder if the woman would have to pay child support if the kids were not hers? Nahhhh! Would never happen!
Voted "No he shouldn't." and if the child is left to starve to death, eh, these things happen. The most important thing is that the adult - who can think ahead, should put reasonable restraints on his own conduct, and has the means of his own care - should feel vindicated and justified.
The baby, as I say, can fend for itself. One feeling only pity for the child who, through no fault of its' own, found him or herself caught between such feckless and so-called adults.
Welcome to life in the shark tank.
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The premise is that child/divorce jurisdicion is the only thing that's feminist in the world. But I do think that is good that the law stays by the side of children and make it so that they don't suffer from their parents faults. As long as it can look harsh it's good that they don't have the double shock of finding out their father is not their father and being also financially abandoned. Also the law is also telling that you shouldn't be tied by biology, if you raise a kid that kid is your and the Mother can't Just take it to it's biological father. If you find out your father isn't your father would it change anything of your life? He's still the same person and you still have the same relationship with him
So? i dont wanna pay for a child that isn't mine
I mean it would be pretty heartless of anyone to just abandon "his" child when he learns it isn't his child. It's like caring for a sibling all your life and then discover that you share no blood relationship, would you severe all ties and say he/she ain't your brother/sister anymore. Well I think it's pretty much the same for a child. It isn't the child's fault after all and paying for child support until he/she can earn for her/himself can be unfair in some way but... I don't know I would keep paying if I was in the man's place.
you know what's really heartless' cheating on your husband. if women didn't do that this wouldn't happen in the first place.
So don't tell us what is or isn't heartless.
Nope, fuck that. That enabling hoeish behavior
He already doesn't have to pay, assuming he files a motion to modify child support, with paternity testing established, at his county's domestic relations court. You're asking about something that doesn't exist. If it's established via paternity testing that he isn't the biological father, and he files a motion to stop support after that, then the judge or magistrate 99.99% of the time (as in, literally every case other than one that may have some type of weird extenuating circumstances) will stop his support, and may even support the idea of back pay, as in she would owe him some money.
I don't think he should be made to pay. The child is not his. Now if he has a close relationship, then I sure he would give from the heart. Let him provide what he can and buy what he wants the child to have. If he and the mom have a pretty decent relationship, then maybe she can say what the child needs. But he shouldn't be made to do for the child if not his.
Nope and if that was kept a secret then He should be able to sue the mother and the father for damages and for all expenses paid into supporting that child. We really need to start holding women accountable for their actions because how it is now in another generation of two zero men will want to get married and that will be the end of us as a species.
he should not have to. however in many states once your on the paperwork as the Childs father. you only have able a year or so to claim otherwise. if you don't you are the legally still viewed as the Childs parent. and can be court ordered to pay support for that child. even if your proven to not be related by blood afterwards. which is why they need to do paternity testing. before the guys name can be put on an legal documents.
18 or up to 25 if their in collage in same cases.
also why if women want the ability to abort a child. guys need the ability to sign away. all their legal rights to a child that is born including visitation and child support.
Roughly 1/3 of child are born these days without having both parents. Because either the women tried to trap a man. Or things just did not work out between them.
I'm so embarrassed to admit this, but my absolute ultimate dream is to serve a beautiful, plus sized woman who gets pregnant by another guy, and she makes me sign the birth certificate and assume all legal and financial responsibility for the child -- even though she never, ever lets me have any penetrative sex with her whatsoever... I hope that's not too weird!
I chose option b because I don't think so that he has to pay necessary. I mean that's not right. Suppose you get to know that the child who you thought is yours only to find out later that he/she has never yours to even begin with! So, that's crucial for a person because A man will have to support himself, then he has to pay for the child care..
Any family court judge will just say that the paternity test is inadmissible as evidence.
They do it all the time.
You pay out the ass for the kid whether it's yours or not, just being a man makes you liable for child support. Any child's child support.
This is just the tip of the iceberg. This is like if you dated a woman she cheated on you and
did not know the kid was not yours. They even make you pay if you become a father figure to a single mothers kid specially if you have above average income.
For example let's say you dated a single mother you meet her kid a few times maybe babysit it they will say you're a father figure and now you have to pay child support.
The law does not support my opinion but no a man should not be forced to support a child that is not his.. Here is the sad part of that.. As much as 25% of all men are supporting children that are not theirs and in most cases that's because the woman cheated on him and lied about it.. its sickening.. Paternity fraud is a thing.. and it royally fucks men.
you can also marry a woman that has children that are not yours, and because you were a "father figure" to them, be forced to pay child support.. Child support and Alimony is just slavery with extra steps..
I am going through a divorce because my ex cheated, if I learned one of my boys isn't mine, the child wouldn't know any difference. I would still spend just as much time together, spend the same $ on him, love him the same, etc. But paying my ex for his care while with her? Hell no, that is her responsibility.
Not only should he not have to pay, but his wife/girlfriend/baby mama should be forced to repay him, with interest, and it should be legal to charged her with fraud since she is aware that someone else busted in her and could easily be the biological father..
Eh, it depends.
If a father-child relationship reasonably has been established, yeah. But that depends a bit on how you define it and the thresholds on that. But anyway, finding out at 2 y/o is completely different from finding out at 12 y/o
I think society as a whole has agreed that family isn't necessarily who you're related to by blood. An adopted child is your child, and the parents of an adopted child are the parents. However, while I agree that it is a dick move that should be shamed, I don't think it should be required by law.
He should not have to pay for the child he did not help bore and they should actually refund his money to him.
No.
In fact, he should be able to sue the mother or criminally charge her to send her to jail. But that won't happen as there is a child to think of. A woman can lie and saddle a man with debt for a decade and he's the asshole if he finds out he's not the father and shuts off the money tap and finds his own life.
Fuck no we shouldn but IF you wants to then thats his choice but shouldn't be made to. i sure the hell wouldn't if my wife or girlfriend cheated and spread her legs for another guy or guys while im with them and got knocked up by someone else she can rot in hell.
He shouldn't have to pay. If the child's father is never found, I have a hard time saying the mother, alone, should have to pay all of that money back (even though it isn't fair on him), but if the father is found, that father should start paying for the child as well as gradually paying back what the not-father has paid for that child.
What the fuck is this bullshit? It's like saying if a person had been found guilty of a crime and incarcerated, but then new evidence proved him not guilty and he's exonerated - he should remain in prison because prisoner-prison relationship have already been established. As stupid as it gets!!!
I’d say legally no especially if the woman knew the child was not his. But if a man is already bonded and loves his non biological child I guess it’s up to what he thinks is morally right in the situation. For the child he’s her/his only father.
u In Florida, a man can file a petition to establish that he is not the biological father of a child and, if successful, the support obligation terminates, along with his custody and visitation rights.
He shouldn't have to pay, but he can choose to pay if he personally feels like paying maybe base on his personal relationship with the child, which becomes a privilege not necessarily a right
Of course not! It's not his child nor his responsibility. Unless he signs a form stating he claims the child as his, then he holds mo legal obligation to him
No that wouldn't be fair for him to pay for the child of another man. Maybe if they have a close relationship with not biological child then he can help sometimes. He shouldn't have to and only if he wants to provide financial support.
No he shouldn't be required to, but Unfortunately it's real and it's out there and it happens often..
No, he shouldn't. But he is a fucking idiot for not requiring a DNA test if there was a doubt...
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My neighbour has bought a car. Should I pay his road tax and insurance?
What a grotesque idea!
Plus: Child support should be paid out to the kid - not to its Mom (or Dad, in rare cases).
That is tough but if that is the case then the mother should make a him at least a second father to the child
That's f*ed up. If the child isn't yours you shouldn't have to pay. If you choose to, that is different
In some jurisdictions, the father may be able to seek to set aside the judgment based on fraud. In this type of action, the father would likely have to prove that the mother knew that he was not the father and intentionally deceived him.
Depends what your aim is and clearly here your government is more interested in someone supporting the child and it doesn't really care who.
Nope.
In fact, he should be reimbursed for the child support he paid, either by the woman or the state. It's a double standard.
Don't know if that was a credible source lol but no, duh.
this is actually true, it happens.
As long as abortion is legal, there shouldn't be child support period.
A few years ago this happened to a guy in my country; I thought it unfair then, and I think it's unfair now.
Nope. The father should be on the hook if anyone is.
No way. If it’s not your kid, why the hell should you have to pay for it?
This should be officially illegal. But the ruling class and the injustice system don't care because more taxpayers means more money for them.
It shows you how Anti-Male the Justice System is. If you don't get a DNA test from the very beginning and just have faith it's yours then you run into the possibility of being legally screwed.
He should send her a bill for supporting the child.
of course not. the fact that his happens just shows how anti male the court and the government is.
No, but unfortunately the court doesn't care. They just want to stick someone with the bill.
Its not his child so no... if he choses to support the child or the mother because he is with her then thats a different story
Absolutely not.
Why pay if it's not yours?
Let the biological father pay.
He shouldn't have to pay AND he should be reimbursed everything he spent so far on that child support.
Nope and the woman should have to refund all child support that had been previously paid, and face jail time for fraud.
No and screw that. I ain't paying any child support if the child isn't mine biologically. I'd hire an attorney to fight that corrupted unconstitutional law.
It comes down to responsibility. If he isn't ,, the does it by choice...
Hell no. He should only pay if he wants too. He has no further obligation.
Not only should he NOT have to pay, the baby-momma should be charged with felony fraud.
The woman that scammed him is guilty of enslaving the man to provide for her child. She should be prosecuted on slavery charges
It is absolutely outrageous and almost slavery to force a man to pay for a child that isn't his.
Not sure. A judge would look at marriage and whether he adopted the kid or not.
Not only should he not have to pay, he should be reimbursed for all previous payments.
No he shouldn't be he should still support the child as the child didn't ask for any of it
He should still have to pay but not from his own pocket
Lol no, unless he chooses too. But any good person will help if the partner is loving and genuine
If she is a go around... why even stay.
He should be able to sue if the child isn't his. But honestly I wouldn't burden a man with a child he doesn't want...
Not only should he not have to pay but the piece of shit who falsely claimed he was the father should have to pay back all of the support she got
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