Is it better to have friends that will always stick by your side, even when you're wrong, or friends that will turn on you if you cross the line?

[MCheetah]

This is the closest image I had on my phone for this. I'm sorry.

Say you started going down a dark path but didn't realize it yet. Which group of friends are better?

Extremely loyal friends but can't think for themselves.

Somewhat loyal friends who have a strong moral compass.

I'd rather have no friends at all.

Updates

+1 y

By "extremely loyal," I mean, they've got your back, no matter what crimes and sins you do.

By "somewhat loyal," I mean, they will be loyal to you until you start ruining lives and taking them away.

[HighlyVolatile]

I never liked the "fan" types. That includes both friends and women. Blind loyalty is like dealing with a puppy dog as I see it. They start to resemble asskissers and you can't feel like they're being genuine at all. They just want to soak up whatever you have that they want.

I like the ones that feel like equals, and that means people who aren't afraid to disagree with me, maybe even call me an idiot when I'm being an idiot. Those are always the friends I favored most, but they always had my back when I was in the right, and I valued them for not having my back when I was in the wrong.

[HighlyVolatile]

You know, people who don't compromise their values for friends. Integrity is more important to me than people having my back.

[HighlyVolatile]

But by wrong, I mean really wrong. For example, I had a Malaysian friend here in Japan who overstayed his visa. Then he was imprisoned for over 30 days. I don't think his overstaying in Japan was right but I thought it was right to visit him every day, bring him snacks, not make him feel alone. He even cried in front of me even though he was a fairly macho type of guy most of the time. I even brought him some adult magazines. You know.:-D I think what I did was right even though I didn't approve of what he did. I still find value in being there for him as he was paying the consequences of what he did.

My friends are similar in mindset. They might turn on you if you did something really wrong, but they'll still there to visit you after.

[HighlyVolatile]

* be there

[WilliamPamer446]

The poll was extreme so I chose not to answer. I dont know what you mean by stick by your side. Stick by your side and help you out of difficult situation I want that. Someone who coddles me every time I am wrong no. Someone who vouches for me when I need it even when am wrong yes. I dont want someone who turn on me when I cross the line cuz what is the line and no one is perfect

[Daniela1982]

If I was on the wrong path and one of my friends knew it, I would hope they would speak up. Half the time we can see where others are screwing up while we are blinded to our own foul ups.

[Guccigabbana18]

You need a friend who will tell you how it is, but always have your best interests at heart. And they will not tolerate bullshit from you.

[Lliam]

A good friend knows your heart. Even if you fuck up by saying or doing something stupid (and everybody does), they know who you really are as a person and remain loyal. You can count on them.
But a good friend will also call you out when you are wrong. Those are the kind of people you want by your side.

[genuinlysensitive]

The best answer is "B" but what you are describing is not "somewhat loyal". As loyal friends I expect them to stop me if I do get crazy or I act stupidly. Not necessarily in public, but a friend who can't point out when you're being an idiot for what ever reason is not a friend worth keeping. I would do the same for them.

[hahahmm]

The person who seems super loyal but never disagrees with you is actually two-faced & stabbing you in the back. They're way more dangerous than the person who tells you that they hate your guts to your face.

[RealMarek]

How about extremely loyal friends who have a strong moral compass? When everything went to hell some years ago I found out I had a few friends who would be up front if they thought I was making a mistake but stuck by me no matter what.

[MCheetah]

That's unlikely to happen. They can be loyal and help you bury the bodies of all those men, women, and children you murdered, but their moral compass would not be pure.

[RealMarek]

I guess I would rather have friends who called me out if I was being immoral then, lol.

[Msputiton]

Neither.
I want a friend who will sit my little ass down, when I'm cuttin up

[WilliamPamer446]

do you like it when people get on you?

[Gigi2019]

You can't be somewhat loyal like you can't be somewhat pregnant. You either are or you are not.

[Gigi2019]

Being loyal does not equate to aiding and abetting criminal activity. It means making a reasonable commitment to someone to be there for them when they are in need of love, companionship, or moral support during life's ordinary vicissitudes. Do not tell me that you did something illegal for no good reason, because, I will snitch on your ass and good riddance.

[MCheetah]

"It means making a reasonable commitment to someone to be there for them when they are in need of love, companionship, or moral support during ordinary life. Don't tell me that you did something illegal for no good reason, cause I will snitch on you, and good riddance."

That sounds like "somewhat loyal" to me.

[Gigi2019]

looool Nope. I'm definitely not a Bonnie Parker or a ride-or-die chick. My mama raised me to have full common sense. Not be some loser fool's flunkie to the miserable end. LOL

[Gigi2019]

PS - You are not doing anyone any favors when you help support their messed up choices. Being an adult means accepting full responsibility for "all" of "your" decisions... good or bad.

[MCheetah]

This reminds me of Bonnie Parker: Pass or Smash?
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But I get it.

I'm not going to give my opinion until the end and everyone stops responding.

[JosyJosy]

Friends to set you straight if you're going down the wrong path

[skytatoe]

Friends that don't turn your back on you when you cross the line, but instead let you know that you crossed it and stop supporting you in your self destruction, and wait with open arms when you're doing being an idiot.

[douride2]

I would sooner have friends that point me in the right direction if I'm going the wrong way.

[clampfan101]

Friends should let you know when they think you’re wrong, but try to help you instead of turning on you.

If your friend is in the wrong, help them back to the right path. Don’t just ditch them.

[MCheetah]

This is assuming the path was quick and sudden. Like "Daenerys from season 8 of Game of Thrones" quick and sudden levels of Heel Turn.

[clampfan101]

I don’t know anything about Game of Thrones.

[clampfan101]

Update: “somewhat loyal” sounds exactly loyal, just not stupid.

[TheSpaceGnome]

B, but I'm B. I can't experience B because I wouldn't do morally dubious things, But
I will ditch friends who are being assholes.

[JesseJayNeak]

B. Loyalty is important but so is self improvement. You can’t grow up if you don’t take criticism well

[MrtoddsWildRide]

If my fly is down, I want my friends to tell me. Otherwise they are just talking about it behind my back.

[exitseven]

I have a couple of friends that would back me up no matter what. I would do the same for them.

[Fuentes]

No friends at all