I often see on gag many women get upset when a man says he does not find a woman over say 25 or 30 to be attractive to him anymore. Women and men both bash him as being narrow minded (which is funny because no one says that about height for women) and then proceed to post pics of celebrities who are rich, have personal trainers and nutritionist, professional makeup and less stressful lives. Some women will have a convenient story of some person they know in their life who still get male attention as an example to sway away that women still are just as hot in their 30's and 40's as they are in their 20's almost as if they are trying to convince themselves they'll live the sex and the city lifestyle they'll have on TV where rich, successful and/or hot men will chase them down for a chance at relationships or more accurately the quality of men who want them now will remain at that level when they enter into their 30's and 40's. In addition to this they like to deny that they will show any signs of aging or that their body has undergone a change that makes them a stark contrast to women in their early 20's. I actually once heard a girl deny that women do not get wrinkles in their late 20's and how most women she know still pretty much look the same as they did in their early 20's. Age range: Early 20's
Age range: 25-29
And while saying all this they bash and try to pretend that the pendulum does not swing over to men past 30 and men gain some semblance of power in the dating game where women begin chasing the men. Many women quip to men as they age they will start going bald and getting bear guts and therefore will be in the same boat as women with age and because of this their stance in the dating game which is a position of being the chase and therefore lower value will remain and women will still hold all the cards and control.
So why do women want to stay in the spotlight of desirability forever?
Why do women think that they will remain attractive and have men jumping through hoops for them even into their 30's and 40's?
Contrary to popular belief, one's "prime" is mid-late 30s, not 20s,. I'm 29, look 25, and honestly I find most women under 25 unattractive in terms of dating simply because they look like girls not women.
Most professional athletes hit thier peak in thier 30s too. I'm 29 and im lifting more than ever. I benched 345 lbs and deadlifted 475 and I'm only 5'9" 180 lbs. I do sprints weekly as well and can run faster than anyone I've met. I've not seen any decrease in what my body can handle as I've gotten older.
Not sure what you mean by jump through hoops, but women can remain attractive into their 40s and 50s. They just have to take care of their bodies, obviously. I've gone out with women and been more attracted to thier 52 year old mom than the daughter. Granted, it's rare, but not because women can't be attractive at 50, but because most people don't have the discipline to care for their bodies that well. The ones that do though, damn they are sexy.
I've semi-seriously considered what it would be like to marry a 55 year old, then when she dies at 80 or whatever, then marry a 35 year old and start a family. Tough decision.
@frenchtoast11996 I actually really liken30 so far. I've got my shit together, the only people in my life are ones that I've consciously chosen to keep there, I feel more comfortable in my body and accepting of who I am than I ever did when I was in my early 20s, and I'm able to just enjoy my life without always worrying about what people think or if I'm being exciting enough or what I "should" be doing... honestly, I really wish I could relive my 20s with the confidence and perspective I've gained in my late 20s. I'd have been much kinder to myself!
@Sara413 lol forget him. He's insecure and afraid of aging so he's tryna play it off by saying women will be undesirable at that age cause apparently he's Edward Cullen. Women age better than men and remain sexy af. Old men I see today are all crippled and have huge bellies and are bald, but the women I see in their 70s and 80s can still walk, still have hair and slimmer bodies. Lmfao.
Thing is, when it comes to mating and reproduction (which is it's all about, at the end of the day), one's prime is most certainly their 20's. And their early 20's, at that. Both maternal age and paternal age have a detrimental impact on childrens' genetic health, and the maternal age effect is far more pronounced. The older a child's parents are, the more likely it is that the child will have chromosomal abnormalities, and genetic disorders. How much more likely? So much so that the child of an average 30yr old couple is equally likely to have a genetic disorder as the child of two 20yr old first cousins. And if that average couple waits until they reach the age of 40, then the risk of genetic deformity for that child would be equivalent to the child of two 20yr old siblings. Logically, there's a weaker rationale for sexual attraction to women over 30 than there is to first cousins, and likewise for sexual attraction to women over 40 than there is to siblings.
*Of course, the same statement also applies for men over the ages of 35 and 55 respectively, due to the still significant paternal age effect. But still, this question was about women in particular, so I'm focusing on them.
@SinghSong Just curious, when did you become God and get to decide what life is "all about"? I guess I missed that announcement since I was mostly paying attention to political news.
Because that wasn't what LIFE is all about (though it does come close- after all, without progeny, life dies out); that's what romantic relationships are all about, at the end of the day. Without sex and/or children, there's no rational basis for having a romantic partner at all, is there?
@SinghSong Because you enjoy it? Because you want to? Because you're a horrible and corrupt bitch but your Husband is somewhat likable and staying married to him in a loveless relationship helps you get elected president? Lots of reasons to get married or otherwise be in a romantic relationship.
@SinghSong So something is irrational because it involves preference? How do you order at a resturant? Decide how to spend free time on a Saturday afternoon? Choose a profession? Lots of things in life are simply a matter of preference.
1. Your taste in women and standards for attractiveness will change over the years. When I was a younger man, I was completely baffled that any guy could be attracted to a woman over the age of 40. When I was 40 years old, finding a 40 year old woman attractive felt completely natural. Of course she doesn't look like a 20 year old girl. And I still found 20 year old girls to be attractive. Now I am 61 years old and I have a 64 year old girlfriend who I think is very attractive. (Yes, I have my eyes examined every year, I wear glasses for reading only, and my far vision is almost perfect.)
2. If you think dating revolves around a balance of power, you will probably have a series of unsatisfying relationships. A relationship where one person wants to have all the power is unsatisfying for at least half of the "partnership" and one on which both want to have all the power is a war, not a partnership. No, I don't say things just to suck up to women and sometimes I say things that get them mighty pissed off, so accuse me of trying to be a white knight for the females if you want, but it's not true.
Do you think you are immune to aging? You will age too, as will women. You act like only women get older. You will age too and you will want the younger women you desire to find you desirable. As for height, since forever... men on average are always taller than women on average. Women wanting someone taller is realistic because that's how nature works. On the contrary, it's not like people are always popping out babies and having large families. Having a woman much younger won't make much of a difference unless you want a large family. Keep justifying things to make yourself feel better, but we all will age and we all will look out for ourselves. You're no different.
I agree, but women want men that are too tall. There is nothing natural about that in your own terms. Also if it comes down to nature most people should have babies around their 20s. So is more complex than that.
no one should be jumping through hoops. women or men. in my opinion.
everyone ages.
some people age better than other.
some people are unattractive no matter how well they age.
i prefer dating people my age but there are exceptions. plus or minus. atm, its minus.
i dont expect guys to be after me now or later, & they can do as they like but i would not in the past nor will i now want nor date a guy who PLANS to and boasts about no longer date women his age after he passes 25. there's something socially ethically and cognitively underdeveloped about this 'position'
This shit needs to stop. Women are already so insecure about everything else now you gotta throw this into the equation? Leave us women alone. Women can also be hot into their 30s, 40s and 50s and so what if she still flaunts it at that age? A man's good looks also deteriorates at 25.
@dudeman if so, then men too. If your are thinking money or status, then older men need a lot of that. Most young girls want young men. Only very powerful men can still get very young women. If you say women are ugly past 25 the most likely your are also pointing to the physical defects of older man. Women an men undergo similar changes while aging.
Um, when will you realize that women don't need men financially anymore. Why would you ever want to be 40 and dating a 20 yr old? She is only dating you for your money not looks, she will most likely hav a side dude or two whom she is actually attracted to.
@Red_Arrow umm..."Why would you ever want to be 40 and dating a 20 yr old? She is only dating you for your money not looks, she will most likely hav a side dude or two whom she is actually attracted to. " If a man who is 40 is dating a 20 yr old because he thinks he still has" it" he is completely delusional. What he does have is money. Women like beauty , youth and looks we strive to look like that so we would expect whom we date to look like that as well. Older women dont go after men who have money because they have it, its the younger women who want someone to pay for thier D&G bag and vaca who go after older men.
Okay, I can see that. I will say that before I got married, back in my twenties, I dated older women who were VERY attractive. They probably looked even better at 20, but who cares? They were still foxes at 40 and 50.
@Red_Arrow I prefer much younger women and will NEVER date a wome over 35. Older women don't appeal to me anymore. If it means being alone a lot. So be it.
@Marinepilot - I honestly hope it does not offend you if I state that you passing up perfectly beautiful women just because of a number attached to the age column does not bother me in the least. :-)
Si by that you are saying older men are ugly. Since women and men undergo the same changes, this means 40yr old women are ugly too. You will be one some day and you would not like to think that way about yourself. I think men’s obsession with youth is ridiculous, but is not resin to keep this idea that old ser people is not physically attractive at all. Young people are more attractive but there can be attractive people at very different ages.
It's because the only dudes that ever complain of these things are saying women over 25 are over the hill/ hit the wall yet the men in question are the same age. Thinking they are something special but they also don't realize they are also older and less attractive than dudes in their 20s who are slim/have 6 packs and better libido's and we can still bang them.. I'm 34 and dudes in their 20s always say I look like I'm 25 maybe they are lying but I can still fuck them so it doesn't really matter. I am attracted to guys my age, older and younger I ain't going around saying once guys are 30 they are too old for me like you pathetic losers 🤣
I think that women realize, although too late they didn't find the right man when they were young, pretty and desirable. Reason being is they were running around with ThugBoy or Nicky NeckTatoo not paying the least bit of attention to good men who they could build a good life with. Suddenly they get knocked up, and the bad boy hauls ass, like the always do. Suddenly little Miss Hottie isn't nearly as appealing. She's used and damaged and maybe 30-35. Then she starts shaming men her age and older because they are beating a path to her door to date her. Why should they? Why drive a used car when the lot is full of new models? It's a no brainer.
Actually my real age is 34. I get hit on by 18 year olds when my husband not around. I never met a "good guy" until him. I waited for the right guy instead of getting knocked up by the wrong guy and ending up a single mom or divorced. Used? I have less sexual partners than most 20 year olds these days. I am very picky. If you are going to generalize a group like that I guess it safe to say... All black men are criminals, all whites are racist, all men are cheaters., etc. * rolls eyes. The ignorance!!!
Like any other question about looks it's a matter of taste. Yes, I think MOST men prefer a younger women with perky youthful body parts and naturally smooth skin. But not all. Some younger men, for example have a fetish for older women. When I was in my 20s I had a relationship with a woman in her 40s and thought she was hot. I also had a fling with a woman who was one of my college professors who was in her 40s. By the time I reached my 40s I was only attracted to women under 30. So not only do different men have different ideas of what is attractive, but those ideas vary over time. In general (speaking in terms of physical attraction here) I would say men generally prefer younger women no matter how old the men are. But there are plenty of exceptions.
They know that they have the shelf life of bananas, but in order to rode the Cock Carousel in their teens and twenties and still find a chump that will wife them up in their 30s, they have to keep the illusion up that post-Wall women are still attractive. And they'll shame any man that doesn't agree. Shaming language is all they have, and if you simply don't give a fuck it won't have any effect on you other than making you laugh.
People will age differently but everyone will age. What makes you think that every woman starts to not look good at age range 25-30? If you were to date someone the day they turn 18 you would have 7-12 years with them because you would not find them attractive. Are you going to be chasing after the group senior in high school - senior in college for the rest of your life? Just so you know a lot of people look good after age 30. If women are not good looking after age range 25-30 then why gas my mom who is 60 been hit on by guys in their late twenties early thirties? Why does my girlfriend who is 45 still look wonderful?
1. Women's looks and men attraction for them is tied heavily to youthfulness. Even a woman's voice is more akin to a child than to a man.
2. Therefore a woman who was say fat or did not take care of herself in her teens and early 20's but fixed herself up by losing weight, treating her skin and so forth into her late 20's and beyond does not mean she is now in her prime. Her prime was in her early 20's. She looks better now but that doesn't mean that she would not have looked even better if all these changes were made when she was in her early 20's.
The same principle applies to men.
3. Biological level women lose 90% of their eggs by 30 and as you get older DNA of gametes become more pronounce. Every male/female relationship is tied with children in mind even if one does not want to have one. Thus, on a subconscious level men will find a woman in her 20's more appealing than one who is in her 30's.
Most men don't look so hot as they get older either. The older guys pulling chicks in their early 20s are generally super fit, blessed with facial aesthetics, charming and not broke. You got all that, you'd be pulling ass all along.
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Most chicks were never smoking hot, either, so had no bombastic dating power.
Guys don't jump through hoops for me now... Doesn't mean I'm unattractive, it just means they aren't attracted. I measure people and myself on my own standards and 30-40 year old women look good to me as long as they take care of themselves.
Good question. I never noticed. As a 34 year old woman, I feel that people should not worry so much about youth. I’m more attracted now I’m older to older men. Sure, they don’t look like twenty five year olds, but we’ve got more in common.
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Why do men think that they will remain attractive and have men jumping through hoops for them even into their 30's and 40's?
I hate when men act like they are God's gift to women, you really are not
You have to understand for those women beauty is their asset to gaining wealth. They use their beauty to attract men to support them financially. Without it, they are nothing.
I think I am attractive enough and I have a well-paid job as a computer scientist, and I do not need men to support me financially. Maybe you should stop your generalization like every woman is a gold-digger.
Honestly if you are going to be shallow like this, don't be mad if a woman leaves you for a richer more successful man. Smh. Men will drag a gold digger through the diet for being shallow and superficial but be shallow themselves. Smh
@lyannamormont Sweetheart, generalizations are generally true. Even a broken clock is right twice a day. You maybe the hottest computer scientist in the world, but let's face it, most women in your industry are ugly. They are ugly enough where thy have to be like men.
@curiouskitten67 Everyone is shallow and have their own interests. Don't be so high and mighty. What I've stated is not even offensive. I understand that there are a few women that may age well and can make enough money on their own but that is a few. Generally women move up by marrying up; they utilize their assets to get men to take care of them. Eventually, their looks fade fast almost exponentially.
All i can say is hahahahah because no engineer woman would date you anyways and i am sure you have met only one or none in your life. That must be why you are single and will be doomed to be single. Good luck.
@lyannamormont Lol, ouch that really hurts. We all die alone ; anyway, I would never date an engineering woman because most are not attractive. That's the trend It's the women with business degrees or communications or fashion design are the best looking. What makes you think as an engineer I would be only narrowing my options to just engineers? That would be ludacris; I think that my comments are just bringing out your insecurities. For that, I truly pity you; you can wish me ill will out you want, but genuinely I hope you have a good life because i have found my peace. What I've stated is not wrong; it's not PC. The world is cruel.
Well given the fact that you are single according to your profile, and you have ridiculous generalizations, plus you have only (apparently) dated women who were with you for your money, I think the only person to be pitied here is you, as I am already in a long-term relationship, i always met guys who loved me not only for my look but for my intelligence and i have a damn good job which pays me well, and i dont look for a rich guy.
As everyone, I have insecurities as well. But thankfully they are not about my attractiveness, or age, or whether i will find a guy who is going to "financially" support me unlike the women niche you've met so far. My insecurities are mostly about my career, whether i will do well in this presentation or project etc.
I know my surrounding engineering, math, physics women are more attractive and all earn good money, probably more than the women in your "attractive" category, so they generally dont look for a rich companion.
and dont worry about women being ugly and an engineer, any women regardless of their attractiveness level, won't be dealing with someone who is apparently mathematically less intelligent. so you are not in their zones.
You may continue pitying me under all conditions. I love to make miserable poor souls happy. Why not adding you to my "make the poor soul happy" list?
@lyannamormont Sweetheart, I'm not miserable, and I'm sure you are insecure about your work quality. Anyway, I wish you luck in your endeavors; you're going need it based on your naivety.
I hate to break it to you but some groups of men look like shit by 35 and are bald by 30. Hope your pockets are far enough to keep a lady. It is men who choose to marry these women based on looks. You should be dating someone because of the person they are. No wonder divorce rates are so high.
@curiouskitten67 men aren't sought after based on looks but stability. Looks can become factor but a man with stability despite being not so attractive can get very beautiful women. Men with Money, power, and fame can get any woman
You are missing the point. You complain about women using their looks to move up. Well who marries these women? Men. Maybe you should stop marrying women based primarily on looks. People will do to you what you let them do. If men boast that their money gets them the most beautiful women in the world, then don't drag the chick through the dirt because you let her use you for money. You knew she had nothing but a pretty face to offer, so why marry her then complain that she takes half of your worth during divorce? My point is you should be with a person because of who they are. I am not with my man based on looks or money. I actually love him and would love him if he loss a leg, a eye, or all his money.
Money, power and fame? Most men are middle class. They do, t have money, power, or fame. And if your relationship is based on looks, what happens when she turns 50 or 60? You just going to divorce her for a prettier face? Or cheat? Smh. I met my guy when I was fat and ugly. Lost the weight and he thought I was amazing through it all. I would much rather have a guy who loves the real you, he is the good man that deserves you and will stick with you to the end through good and bad times
@curiouskitten67 Ironically, you miss my point as well. I don't blame people for utilizing their gifts to reach their full potential. I'm just stating general observations and trends. Women have a small fraction of time to utile their assets (looks) to hook a man in her life if she decides to go that route. If she wants to go for a lucrative career, that's fine as well. However, I'm just making a statement that generally the women in STEM field are not very attractive.
And my point are those men marrying women for looks are in for a big surprise later in life when she divorced and takes most of their money. It 2016, not 1940, date a person you actually love. Those relationships actually last. Dating for money is one of the contributors of divorce.
@curiouskitten67 the whole you should do something because of such date is invalid reasoning. But besides that, marriage has no benefits for men but that is an entirely different discussion
I know plenty of people - male and female - who look great for their age going into their 50s. A healthy lifestyle and exercise is crucial for this, and it is possible without a personal trainer and while working full time.
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It's not a "woman" thing. It's a "people" thing. People generally tend to assume that tomorrow will look like today. Which is true for short spans of time but obviously breaks down further out. But we're REALLY bad at sorting that out.
This shit needs to stop. Women are already so insecure about everything else now you gotta throw this into the equation? Leave us women alone. Women can also be hot into their 30s, 40s and 50s and so what if she still flaunts it at that age? A man's good looks also deteriorates at 25
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Black women and Asians age pretty well so I don't really think about this. I get hit on by 18 year olds that think I am their age. Then they look shocked and then excited when I say I am 34. *shrugs
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I also want to add. Ladies, please don't let this shallow loser devalue you based on hi s ignorant opinion. Ever since I was 20 I admired older women. Especially older, fit, MIlf. They have had babies and managed to still look gorgeous. You guys are rock stars because I know it isn't easy. I see so many gorgeous fit older women and it inspires me. I hate when people try to put down women based on their looks. We already have so much pressure placed on us though the media. You are beautiful! Xoxo
Women age like milk and men age like wine. The value of pussy is only good from 18-29. I guess women just find it hard to accept the truth. It's just a fact of life. I'm sorry ladies.
I am black and my husband is white. People always ask me why I married an older man. We are the same age. Tell me again how women age like milk? Smh. Black don't crack unless you are on drugs
@datgirl looool. Holy shit. Women definitely do not get better and better looking as they get older. Women look the best when they're younger. Late teens and early 20s. Fuking lol. Wut am I bitter about?
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You are rude, dude. Stay single. You have no respect for women as a gender if you are going to insult us like that. I am going to give you a small pass because you are so young and immature. These same guys insulting women's looks get mad when women pick richer men over their broke asses. Both are shallow
So women in their late 30s get upset that they do not have man partner? So? Who cares? How is that my concern? 🙂 She listened those radical feminists and made her life choices, now enjoy it 🙂
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