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I would like to answer your question with a question: Have you considered what is expected from us, but not so obsessively expected from you?
A) Would you have preferred to be expected from you to have large boobs (because it's not obsessively expected from you)? Or to do just a little hair shaving.
B) Would you have preferred to be expected from you to be tall (because it's not obsessively expected from you)? Or to do just a little hair shaving.
C) Would you have preferred to be expected from you to have naturally wide hips? (because it's not obsessively expected from you). Or to do just a little hair shaving.
Do you know what is expected from you?
1) Have at least a little bellow average face, yes you read well, bellow average face because you have the privilege of make-up
2) Just do a little bit of work out, and if don't want to, just stay chubby, yes you read well chubby, chubby girls are doing well, just don't be obese.
3) Just shave some hair on your body.
Let's see it now from the perspective of the males in the questions A, B and C (aka small breast woman=small dick man, short woman=short man, narrow framed woman (hips)=man with narrow frame (shoulders).
What do you think will happen if suddenly all women say something like "Hey, guys! We are going to give, short men, men with small dicks and narrow framed men slightly few more chances (mark the word "slightly") if they do a little bit of manscaping!!!"
I'll tell you what will happen: You are going to witness, not only the conventional razors disappear from the shelves of the markets but even the old style, one-blade razors from the barber shops!!!
You see most of the things that many women expect from a guy (I am not saying all women because there are exceptions), are things out of man's control, they are just genetic traits.
On the other hand most things that are expected from you are things in your control.
Now would you like to be a man and bot be expected from you to shave your hair but with the risk of, let's say have a small dick?
Or a woman with the responsibility of shaving her body hair, but at least not having any problem in dating if the genetic lottery has given you small boobs?
PS: If someday women tell that they are going to give those said groups of men, more chances with just a little manscaping, I will literally invest all of my fortune to Gillette and Wilkinson shares!!!
but we're supposed to be buff, tall, handsome, rich, smart, thoughtful, emotionally, yet at the same time emotionally secure, undersanding and laid back while still not being push overs. my point is we all have expectations, both sides. and guys have different views on these expectations, some won't care and some will.
if you're asking for a rationalization on why a man would want a woman "hairless" id imagine its because in a mans view as well as understanding biologically; hair in certain areas grow a lot more with testosterone. being that men are not looking for testosterone filled individuals but more estrogen filled individuals for a partner (because you know... biology) it makes sense that a guy would want a woman to have less hairbecaus eit is a sign on less testosterone therefore we naturally find that more attractive. but its your body do what you want, just dont be getting mad at others for liking what they like, as well as grouping an entire sex to only have one shared view/ expectation.
It all started with a razor commercial that called women less feminine if they didn't shave.
But guys have a choice whether or not they want to date a woman who shaves more or not. If that's what they're attracted to, then they can rock on in my opinion. My boyfriend personally doesn't mind me being too lazy to shave a lot, but he does enjoy the feeling of smooth legs on me. :P I actually have seen guys that are specifically attracted to women with hairy legs, which I find to be an odd specific attraction, but to each their own, you know?
To be honest, no one ever cared about the hair on my legs, arms or chest. It is not even visible as it is. It really depends how many testosterone you have in your body and how dark your bodyhair is. If your legs start to look like a guys, then yes, that probably wouldn't be considered attractive anymore by the majority of guys.
And by the way, if a guy is REALLY hairy, that would be a turn-off for me too...
I do shave my armpits and pubic hair and I expect my partner to do the same.
You answered your own question on tripleaces post.
"... I think it's manly to have hair..."
That is why guys expect women not to have hair. They don't want to date a woman that is manly.
I think you should do what you want but if you're going to go that way I think you are going to severely narrow down your dating pool.
Funny you mention that. I usually avoid shaving and wear long pants. Last month I started going to school for massage therapy and dreaded having to shave so often. But I realized in an enviorment of people who actually care for the humam body, no one bats an eye at a hairy woman. Its normal and natural.
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I shave my armpits twice a week to keep it clean and I do not find it to be an effort at all. I wash every single day, so what does it take to have my razor soaked and run it over my armpits?
I would like to shave my legs and genital area too sometimes, but I cannot because girls say "hairless means you are not a man".
I still trim downstairs regularly and I still do not find it an effort. Because as explained above, I wash daily, so how much would it take to trim? 2 mins?
so I do not understand what the big deal is. I honestly feel like puking when seeing a girl have her arm up and hair length like she's never touched that area for months. Months!
I understand genital area hair, I do like it hairy from time to time, so she would get to leave it grow for a while. Then I can use that as part of foreplay or sex play, have her soaked in the bathtub, then lay her down on a massage table and shave her/wax her myself down there, then switch to an erotic massage.
But even so, if she leaves hair grow down stairs, she still needs to take care of the surroundings. If she lets herself go so much, that it starts to grow along the leg (as I've unfortunately seen with some), then I'd puke in the middle of the living room several times.
so: we understand to an extent, BUT be reasonable with letting your hair grow on the body
I don't like my women hairy. I enjoy the softness. That softness is very feminine. That said, the "peach fuzz" that is all over a woman's body, those little light hairs, drive me wild.
As far as men, I think people usually associate body hair with manliness and smoothness with boyishness. I suppose it is this primal, almost bestial quality to a man with some hair on his chest, arms, legs, tummy, etc. Even so, many women expect their men to groom themselves and do some manscaping. Personally, I wouldn't shave my chest, arms, or back; my body isn't as hairy as some men I have seen. If my woman would prefer it, I'd oblige, but it isn't something I would go out of my way to do for potential mates.
Women, on the other hand, men tend to expect it. It is just sexy. It is hard to explain. It is like trying to explain why a round ass is sexy, or long legs are sexy, or why cute feet are sexy. Some guys have different preferences, but some things are pretty universal. A woman with smooth supple skin has that youthful and glowing look. It makes her much more visually appealing. And men are very very visual creatures.
Well.. Let me ask you this.. Why do you shave your armpits and legs? If it's fine to have hair between your legs then shouldn't it also be fine to have hair in your pits and really hairy legs?
Guys think of girls and especially their vagina as a sexy sleek area of a woman. Just like a guy wouldn't like having his sports car tarred and feathered.. He wants his woman to be sleek and shiny.
This is mostly 70% because it looks better.. 20% because it feels better and 10% because it reduces the number of hairs that get into one's mouth.
Also.. Having hair in any form in your pelvic region is a tribute to the 1970s porn girls who all had terrible looking bush. Even if yours is trimmed into a "landing strip" it will remind your man of some old "not so attractive" bush that he saw in an old time porn.. And you don't want that.
It's just become the social standard and if it's something that you don't like to do.. Then find a guy who likes Bush.. Because if you get with a guy who likes it shaved it will always keep coming up again. You can also make the same request of your man too. If you want him to shave it all off or get it waxed.. Then he will do it.. If you tell him the only way you will get it done is if he does it too. Then you will either solve your complaint.. Or have more slippery sex.
Underarms
American women had no need to shave their underarms before about 1915 – after all, who ever saw them? Even the word “underarm” was considered scandalous, what with it being so near certain other interesting body parts. Then came the sleeveless dress. An ad in the fashion mag Harper’s Bazaar decreed that to wear it (and certainly to wear it while participating in “Modern Dancing”), women would need to first see to “the removal of objectionable hair.” They didn’t need much convincing, and by the early ’20s, hairy underarms were so last decade, at least in America.
Legs
The ’20s fashion was risqué on the bottom half, too, but most women of the era didn’t seem to feel the need to shave their legs, and when hemlines dropped again in the ’30s, the point became moot. The ’40s, however, brought even shorter skirts, sheerer stockings, and the rise of leggy pin-ups such as Betty Grable. “The removal of objectionable hair” suddenly applied to a lot more surface area.
WOMEN created this trend and men became accustomed to it.
Like most male versus female things in life, this expectation is an attempt to accentuate pre-existing differences. What do I mean by that? Let's see.
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Men are more muscular than women because of higher testosterone levels. Therefore the expectation is that a guy will be muscular.
Men are taller than women, therefore the expectation is that the guy will be taller than the girl.
Women have larger breasts than men, therefore the expectation is that women will have big breasts.
Women have less body hair than men, therefore the expectation is that...
By the way, it's NOT and *expectation* it's just a *preference+
Actually I don't expect girls to be completely hairless. I'll admit I have the same cultural thing about girls shaving their legs and armpits, in that I've grown accustomed to seeing that as a norm. But if a girl I'm involved with skips a few days shaving those areas it doesn't bother me. And as for pubic hair I really don't care how she chooses to do it. Shave/wax or not it doesn't matter to me. And hair on a girl's arms doesn't bother me either. And it's normal, especially for dark-haired girls, to have a few hairs growing around her nipple area, or have a treasure trail going from her pubes up toward her belly button. Those things don't turn me off and I don't expect girls to have to be completely hairless.
Cause girls these days do expect minimal hair on men
Especially young girls, they prefer hairless bodies
So if men need to have minimal hair women need to have none! Lol
But if you noticed most women actors are very comfortable with their bodies, they almost always keep their hair - and you can see quite a lot actually...
We all have what we do and don't like. Some women love men who are hairy. Other women can't stand a guy who is hairy. So a guy who has a fur coat of hair will either have to shave/wax or narrow his dating pool to women that like hairy guys.
Unless the woman has dark coarse hair on her arms, I don't even notice if she has hair on her arms. Even if I do notice, most women have light thin arm hair so it doesn't bother me a single bit. Every girl I have ever been with prefers to be hairless on the legs, armpits, and privates. So I have grown accustomed to that. Most women start shaving at a young age so seeing a woman with body hair other than on top of her head is so rare that it if we see it, it has a pretty high shock value.
Also, it's not like the body hair that women shave off is often visible out in public. Women can go without shaving for months and guys won't even notice. On the other hand, it's clearly visible when a guy chooses to stop shaving his facial hair.
I honestly am completely fine and respectful of what a woman chooses to do with her body. I trust she will look the way she feels best in her own skin. The only request I have is if anything, to please not shave or wax off her pubic hair (bush) and look like a porn star. Pubic hair is actually normal and natural and is a true sign of womanhood and sexual development. Nothing could be more feminine. It has many very important purposes.
I don't really care about arm hair, but the others are kinda gross. I mean you can stop shaving if you don't like it. Also, from a scientific standpoint, I believe that higher testosterone increases bodyhair, so a hairy girl doesn't look very ladylike.
Guys need to shave every single day. Just imagine the reaction if a man who never cut his beard came in for a job interview or first date!
Sure it's "natural" to have hair. Just as it's natural to have bad B. O., go naked, and never brush your teeth. Just cause something is natural doesn't mean it's a good look. As a dude, I shave my pits, chest and legs. It's really not that hard.
I'm more wondering why women still have body hair like on legs and armpits. Like, what's the point now? People shave since ancient times and still our bodies didn't adapt. I wonder when will this happen. Biologicaly wise it would be better not to have them, because the opposite sex is not attracted to them. Only the pubes make sense still, since they protect private parts.
Males and females are different. Both have different expectations, neither is worse or easier then the other. Being shaved is one of the social norms that women have, it exists. If you don't like it. Get into a serious relationship where you can do whatever the fuck you want.
Lol.. den stop doing it 😂 ... Its nt what we care.. thts how we wer brought up... We grew up getting used to the idea of women waxing their body n being hairless... Thts how it is... Women personally dnt like to hav a hairy body like men do.. if u hate waxing stop doin it... Its nt the guys who has put that on u'll... You girls r doing for urself.. to get the guys attention, to keep urself at peace of havng a gud body...
Probably the porn.
I have always said that if a man expects me to do any particular kind of grooming (especially one that I don't enjoy doing), that he can pay for it. *cue deluge of blue downvotes*
I'd think that most female's chests are hairless, but, either way, most of the men I've known don't care about that kind of thing. I do, however, draw the line at armpit hair...
I'll never forget - one time I had unexpected sex with this guy I'd been dating for awhile. I hadn't shaved and was feeling self-conscious about it. He goes, "what's up with this prepubescent hair expectation you think I have? You're not a girl, you're a woman"
I think with the advent of clothes both men and women should be shaving at the minimum; armpits. Those things smell and look ugly with hair.
Otherwise trimming the genital area would also be good.
Women can shave legs and men face.
If you think shaving legs is worse (it may actually be I haven't done it), then try shaving once every 1-3 days.
For me to keep my face fully clean I'd need to shave once very 2 days.
We guys like women without body hair. It is a guy thing. Some people might say that, they have no problem with girls hair but, they are saying only to make an impression.
I can't say about them, but, I don't like hair on my body and, try to keep tgem shaved/trimmed.
We always thought that, women don't have hair but, you can blame lack on sexual education/porn for it.
But, dating isn't a problem but, seeing a women with hair is a let down.
I have heard guys complain if a woman does not get rid of her body hair but is hairy himself.
I do not care if women have hairy legs, arms, chest, belly/abs, armpits, ass, pussy.
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