The answer is very simple. Going your own way means no more money to women, as well as no more attention "drugs" and no more free stuff. If the vast majority of men decided to walk away from everything it would mean in the end no more welfare for women. Women hate on men who prefer to serve their own interests instead those of women. Simple.
Many women (I won't say "women" since it would be a stupid generalization) hate MGTOW because it's a movement where men refuse to have any relationship with women. And that's a problem for those women because they know most of their power over men depend on sex and attraction. If men refuse these 2 things, women's power over them is reduced to the minimum. And that, those women can't accept it.
RadFems hate men, period. Women who are normal who have issues with MGTOW generally do not have problems with the ones who are actually just doing their own thing. Instead the issues are with the Red Pill Rage guys who constantly complain about women and attack them with AWALT nonsense, using a small % to smear the entire gender. They are the male equivalent of Clementine Ford.
If you go to MGTOW and Red Pill forums it’s a bunch of losers glorifying rape and picking on chicks in general. They don’t respect others, why should anyone respect them? My girl and I treat each other kindly and spoil each other. If I were like those men in those forums, I’d just expect my girlfriend to be kind, caring and giving while I treated her like a second class citizen. It isn’t right and eventually people will tire of hate.
Thank you for your perspective. I feel the need to differentiate between mgtow, red pill, and PUAs. MGTOW don't see any need to have a romantic relationship with a woman because the economic downsides exceed the romantic upside opportunities. Red Pill WAS (before the infestation of PUAs) about men reinventing themselves so that 1) they were more attractive to women and 2) they weren't taken advantage of by women. It used to emphasize being so great that women chased you. Then the PUAs came to the party. The PUAs just want to get laid and will do anything short of rape to get it. Some don't stop.
Nope they are all in forums together. They all have the same attitude too. Their main idea is to screw women over simply because they are women. I look at them the same as I look at the Klan or even a cult.
Look, I have a disdain for women, I advocate for the whole "most women aren't good for serious relationships" ideology... But 'mgtow' is a superiority group and an echo chamber.
As far as women are concerned, men exist only as a resource to be exploited. When a man goes his own way, he is declaring that his resources are for himself alone. The female hive mind cannot let that happen. They all will fight it tooth and nail. A man going his own way is a man who will never pay alimony. Women can't have that, now can they.
That's an interesting perspective. Women traditionally have been more community focused instead of individually centered. I suspect one reason for that is the fact that it does 'take a village' to raise a child. Like it or not... women have a different motivation in many cases (sorry for the stereotype). How do we work with women within that framework? Walking away is likely bad for society.
I’m pretty surprised given how useless men are and how we don’t do anything to help or how we don’t contribute enough to the relationship. Been told many times they’re happy to live without us. And here we are and what do you find hating on the very thing you asked for.
Any "going their own way" movement is full of idiots. Honestly it's a bunch of people wanting to blame their own problems on the other sex. I can understand being screwed over as I've been screwed several times myself, but I don't hate the opposite sex and "go my own way" to prove some conceited point.
Libe life the way you want it, you're free to do so but stop acting like a dick because you're mad, take responsibility.
What is there to like? They’re the Male version of feminists, annoying extremists.. if they want to go their own way then fine, but they never shut the fuck up about it lol
They aren’t the male version of feminists. Those are MRAs. Annoying as they are they don’t even hold a fraction of the political power and influence feminists have anyway.
Yes but one group has the full power of Hollywood, the mass media, justice system and higher education behind them. The other group only has a voice on reddit, 4chan, GAG and a few documentary movies (the red pill). You can’t compare them apples to apples.
I just heard about MGTOW. Never heard about it before today. So apparently they have made the decision women aren't worth the trouble and have shut the fuck up about it.
I sound like I’m defending them but I’m but I’m not. But for every 10 loud mouth radical feminists out there you might find one MRA guy. You won’t see him holding signs like “all women are trash” or some other bs either.
They can’t be compared. Unlike feminists they have almost no societal leeway or power.
Just like Feminism "they never shut the fuck up about it lol" Women complain they want equal rights but can't land a job with the fire fighters because the fitness test is too hard for them. So they complain and the lower the bar so women can now get jobs and not have to drag or carry heavy crash test dummies out of buildings. Thanks to Femenism we now have a higher mortality rate in fires.
Nothing against other people's beliefs. I, myself, am against feminism but as usual, in any group, there are the ones who wants to be more harmful and hurtful than helpful
It's not "women" per se. It is Feminists that hate. Like every other identified leftist fringe group (LGBTQ, Radical Socialists, Jihadis) they feel theneed to utterly destroy anyone who opposes their agenda. There is no room for "live and let live" in their twisted thinking.
Cause most MGTOW men say they're doing this to avoid women but seem to only talk about how women are the devil and how they're the problem. You can see why they'd be upset.
It's funny how all the men who agree with mgtow are anons while the sensible ones who point out it's truth are brave enough to use their profile. Respect for the truthful men.
Interesting rejoinder. I don't hate feminism but I do have some problems with militant feminists. The question is what defines 'equality' and what you have to do to achieve it. That isn't agreed upon by everyone so nobody can say if we have solved women's problems or not.
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The answer is very simple. Going your own way means no more money to women, as well as no more attention "drugs" and no more free stuff. If the vast majority of men decided to walk away from everything it would mean in the end no more welfare for women. Women hate on men who prefer to serve their own interests instead those of women. Simple.
I just looked it up and it sounds exactly like the male version of radical feminists, I don’t mind it unless it’s shoved down my throat.
Many women (I won't say "women" since it would be a stupid generalization) hate MGTOW because it's a movement where men refuse to have any relationship with women. And that's a problem for those women because they know most of their power over men depend on sex and attraction.
If men refuse these 2 things, women's power over them is reduced to the minimum. And that, those women can't accept it.
Because it doesn't involve them. It's like if you had a man only organisation feminists would be outside protesting
RadFems hate men, period. Women who are normal who have issues with MGTOW generally do not have problems with the ones who are actually just doing their own thing. Instead the issues are with the Red Pill Rage guys who constantly complain about women and attack them with AWALT nonsense, using a small % to smear the entire gender. They are the male equivalent of Clementine Ford.
If you go to MGTOW and Red Pill forums it’s a bunch of losers glorifying rape and picking on chicks in general. They don’t respect others, why should anyone respect them? My girl and I treat each other kindly and spoil each other. If I were like those men in those forums, I’d just expect my girlfriend to be kind, caring and giving while I treated her like a second class citizen. It isn’t right and eventually people will tire of hate.
Thank you for your perspective. I feel the need to differentiate between mgtow, red pill, and PUAs.
MGTOW don't see any need to have a romantic relationship with a woman because the economic downsides exceed the romantic upside opportunities.
Red Pill WAS (before the infestation of PUAs) about men reinventing themselves so that 1) they were more attractive to women and 2) they weren't taken advantage of by women. It used to emphasize being so great that women chased you. Then the PUAs came to the party.
The PUAs just want to get laid and will do anything short of rape to get it. Some don't stop.
Nope they are all in forums together. They all have the same attitude too. Their main idea is to screw women over simply because they are women. I look at them the same as I look at the Klan or even a cult.
I was just talking to a dude in Australia who called himself a PUA and MGTOW. He was absolutely clueless.
Then he will end up getting what he deserves. We all do in the end.
Look, I have a disdain for women, I advocate for the whole "most women aren't good for serious relationships" ideology... But 'mgtow' is a superiority group and an echo chamber.
As far as women are concerned, men exist only as a resource to be exploited. When a man goes his own way, he is declaring that his resources are for himself alone. The female hive mind cannot let that happen. They all will fight it tooth and nail. A man going his own way is a man who will never pay alimony. Women can't have that, now can they.
That's an interesting perspective. Women traditionally have been more community focused instead of individually centered. I suspect one reason for that is the fact that it does 'take a village' to raise a child. Like it or not... women have a different motivation in many cases (sorry for the stereotype). How do we work with women within that framework? Walking away is likely bad for society.
Societies rise and fall regardless of what any individual does.
I’m pretty surprised given how useless men are and how we don’t do anything to help or how we don’t contribute enough to the relationship. Been told many times they’re happy to live without us. And here we are and what do you find hating on the very thing you asked for.
Any "going their own way" movement is full of idiots. Honestly it's a bunch of people wanting to blame their own problems on the other sex. I can understand being screwed over as I've been screwed several times myself, but I don't hate the opposite sex and "go my own way" to prove some conceited point.
Libe life the way you want it, you're free to do so but stop acting like a dick because you're mad, take responsibility.
What is there to like? They’re the Male version of feminists, annoying extremists.. if they want to go their own way then fine, but they never shut the fuck up about it lol
They aren’t the male version of feminists. Those are MRAs. Annoying as they are they don’t even hold a fraction of the political power and influence feminists have anyway.
@youknowbetter they’re both irritating as hell
Yes but one group has the full power of Hollywood, the mass media, justice system and higher education behind them. The other group only has a voice on reddit, 4chan, GAG and a few documentary movies (the red pill). You can’t compare them apples to apples.
@youknowbetter both losers
I just heard about MGTOW.
Never heard about it before today.
So apparently they have made the decision women aren't worth the trouble and have shut the fuck up about it.
@coffeewithcream that’s the difference women don’t understand. That’s different than MRAs.
I sound like I’m defending them but I’m but I’m not. But for every 10 loud mouth radical feminists out there you might find one MRA guy. You won’t see him holding signs like “all women are trash” or some other bs either.
They can’t be compared. Unlike feminists they have almost no societal leeway or power.
Just like Feminism "they never shut the fuck up about it lol" Women complain they want equal rights but can't land a job with the fire fighters because the fitness test is too hard for them. So they complain and the lower the bar so women can now get jobs and not have to drag or carry heavy crash test dummies out of buildings. Thanks to Femenism we now have a higher mortality rate in fires.
Nothing against other people's beliefs. I, myself, am against feminism but as usual, in any group, there are the ones who wants to be more harmful and hurtful than helpful
Typically MGTOW are bitter and/or hateful towards women, which makes disdain for them pretty reasonable
So many groups behave similarly. I won't play the 'whatabout...' game but it's true. Why is MGTOW called out as the worst?
It's not "women" per se. It is Feminists that hate. Like every other identified leftist fringe group (LGBTQ, Radical Socialists, Jihadis) they feel theneed to utterly destroy anyone who opposes their agenda. There is no room for "live and let live" in their twisted thinking.
they want men to chase them... which makes them feel desired and powerful and going their own way is the wrong direction.
Cause most MGTOW men say they're doing this to avoid women but seem to only talk about how women are the devil and how they're the problem.
You can see why they'd be upset.
It's funny how all the men who agree with mgtow are anons while the sensible ones who point out it's truth are brave enough to use their profile.
Respect for the truthful men.
because is male gay society that spew lies and hatred about the superior sex males typically very misogynistic oriented
Gays and incels, yup pretty much
not a girl appreciation society
No women actually cares, or even know what that means. I had to google it.
Ditto.
But I can see their point.
You're mistaking them for even giving a shit. Fifty one? No one cares dood. Go your own way.
Same reason why you hate feminism. Why would you have to ask?
Interesting rejoinder. I don't hate feminism but I do have some problems with militant feminists. The question is what defines 'equality' and what you have to do to achieve it. That isn't agreed upon by everyone so nobody can say if we have solved women's problems or not.