It's not "forbidden", it's just not a common byproduct of Westernised socialisation. The reigns on that socialisation tend to loosen and tighten along with the seasons of a given generation, though. Right now the reigns are actually loosening a lot, but that will be counter-balanced soon, so enjoy it while the getting's good.
Like how the 50s was kind of a meme of "stoic patriarchal masculinity", and men were pretty left-brain dominant, logical and orderly, but lacking in creative flexibility or emotional nuance.
Then in the 60s men started being more "in touch" with their "feminine side" and exploring right brain dominant pursuits like poetry, art, music, etc, all culminating in the summer of love.
Then the 70s was kind of a mix of the two, with an emphasis on personal responsibility and hard work, albeit in the absence of any hardship of the kind seen in The Great Wars of the early /mid 20th century.
And then the 80s saw the excesses of hard-line masculine ego run amok on wall street, the financial markets, the recreational drugs scene, etc.
Then the 90s saw more gender-neutral expressions, where men and women alike dressed and acted more according to a particular 'niche' rather than a specific gender norm, like grunge, goth, alternative, indie, etc. So guys and girls were less polarised in how they manifested their masculine and feminine natures, respectively. This was a generation of wanderers and introspecters trying to figure out where everything was leading to. They were generationally separate from the WWII-fighting generation, yet the failures of the Vietnam and Middle East invasions were close enough to mind, resulting in a strange mix of collective ennui along with anxiety for what the future holds. It was a languid period and the melancholy heard in likes of Nirvana, Nine Inch Nails, early Radiohead etc, were indicative of the lack of masculine ego or feminine turbulence.
Now since the 00s through to current year, we've fallen into an increasingly consumerist mentality, whilst also being self-aware of our own collective slavery to the dopamine-dispensing hamster wheels of social media, once-click shopping, digitally curated personas, etc; and yet seemingly unable to unplug from The Matrix, as it were. Consequently, the very notion of "masculinity" and "femininity" are being challenged like never before, as a postmodern philosophy of cynical moral relativism tells more and more young people that "gender doesn't matter, identity doesn't matter, you don't matter, nothing matters".
I wonder if the next cultural wave of the coming decade will see both A) a doubling down on this "everything is subjective, therefore nothing matters" attitude, and B) a groundswell of pushback against such claims that would seek to render masculinity and femininity redundant. It's already kinda starting, as seen in the "culture wars". Men are starting to take up more responsibility and look for meaningful existence as opposed to facile expedience and narcissistic obsession with leisurely lifestyle. And women are starting to buck against the hardcore "there are 564 genders" militant so-called feminists, and instead are speaking up about the value of motherhood, and community, and the need for romance and relationships rather than meaningless one night stands and facile recreations of monogamy minus all the love and affection (ie: fuck buddies).
That said, I think a more emotional or sensitive (by nature) man can navigate these turbulent times, constructing his own mythos of manhood by combining, to his heart's content, the logos of masculinity and the pathos of femininity. He'll face resistance from both of the extremes of the culture wars, but in my mind a "real man" for turbulent times is one who can straddle these opposing forces, and integrate the best of both while discarding the dregs.
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I don't know. But at this point I wonder if it matters.
What matters is we have rational minds capable of changing how we act.
We no longer believe in silly things such as "men must be big strong leaders." Its complete fucking nonsense.
It's the logical conclusion of life in our past.
But now, we are mostly free human beings who live in a sandbox. Our lives are our playthings.
Once upon a time it was all about survival. A man's role is defined by survival.
Today, a man's role still exists. His role is to use his strength and explosive power (compared to females anyways) to maintain the wellbeing of those he cares about.
So let's say there is a fire in the house. There is no need to philosophize about who should pick up the kids, and run out the fucking house. It's the mans job. Really, it's the stronger and more fit person in a non man woman relationship. So does it even matter that you're a man?
We had an important role. That role is diminished. Logic dictates we form new more productive beliefs.
Telling men we must be big strong leaders and protectors in a world. where such a thing is non existent only makes men crazy
in my opinion.
It's not "forbidden" per se, for anyone to whine and cry.
But it's better in general that adults, both men and women, have more control on their emotions and don't cry and whine for every little problem. Let the children have that priviledge as long as they are weak and helpless. Adults need to learn to be strong and sacrifice at least parts of themselves for the sanity and stability of their children and for the sake of all kids in general.
An overly emotional society that's alien with the concept of sacrifice will fail to protect and develop children and guide them to a stage of adulthood where they are ready to give, to overlook their own pains if they must and contribute to the greater good.
Also, we have partners for a reason. Your wife/girlfriend should not look down on you if you cried in her arms. That's what parents sometimes do when their children are having sweet dreams. Life is filled with problems and you never know when you need a safe space to burst into tears. But again, that is different than being emotional.
Sounds like you have women in your life that oppress that opinion onto you. I let my boyfriend cry it out, I let my boyfriend talk about his emotions, I ask about how my boyfriend is feeling all the time.
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------------It's forbidden because men have been raised to take on the world and to not show emotions. So ladies if you want your man to open up you need to create a safe space for them to do so. A non judgmental zone.
~Coach T Anthony @thedatecoach IGOh god man man up! Why is it forbidden for people to commit murder? Rape? Abuse? Why it it forbidden from driving the wrong direction on the Highway? Obviously because it’s counter productive. You don’t drive the other way in the highway cause you’ll crash… you don’t murder and rape because you can’t name a society that flourishes allowing such actions to happen so we made laws. For the same reason society thrives when men are men and women are women. Men are expected to step up and sacrifice themselves for the betterment of society so society encourages strength and shames weakness. Emotions are weakness when you have to lead. You have to lead your family logically to keep them alive then women use emotion to curb the cruelty of men and logic.
It’s a pretty idea for people to be whatever they want including the opposite gender or masculine women and feminine men but you can’t argue with results. Society is broken because people aren’t… right. We lost accountability. The minute we stop shaming women for being promiscuous or fat look at what happens. The minute we stop promoting the family look how men respond. Could people one day be interchangeably masculine and feminine? I hope so maybe… but splitting our focus between multiple goals has never been humanities strongest point and I dont trust society to accurately judge their actions and react accordingly. Pretty idea nothing more.So, as I'm scrolling down to tell you that I'm an extremely emotional, sensitive person myself, I see that you apologize in advance for any possible bother you may be causing anyone.
I gotta believe that your sense of humor, not your sensitivity, is what caused you to throw that comment in.
I just gotta believe it was your sense of humor.
I just gotta.
I have one of those, too.
Am I emotional?
(The make-believe audience then calls out - "How emotional are you?")
I'm so emotional that I cry when the national anthem is being sung at the ballpark.
Hell, I can't even sing along to "Take Me Out To The Ballpark" at the 7th inning stretch.
I get too choked up.
I'm not trying to have a "Which Guy Here Is More Sensitive?" contest with you, that is, not unless you try to tell me that that advance apology was on the up and up.
If you tell me that was a for-real apology, I'm taking the gloves off, and you and I can have us a little sensitivity challenge.
Lordy, wouldn't that be a sight to behold!
(I'm starting training right now, just in case.)
(To my off-screen wife - "Honey, would you pass me that box of tissues, please? Thank you.)
Seriously speaking, though, I've gotten to be too old to be worried about what others think of my sensitivities.
My family is used to it, and if anybody else catches me tearing up, I just tell them between snorts and sobs that, "Hey, I'm an emotional guy. That's the way it is."
As an old acquaintance of mine used to say (for that matter I guess he still does say it if he's still alive) in cases where punishment or ridicule for something would be absurd, "What are they gonna do? Take away your birthday?"
I say, "Wear your heart right there on your sleeve. I do."
Sincerely and sensitively,
nolabels- u
It is not forbidden
and it's not something to be ashamed of either
we're all emotional and sensitive to a degree, men and women... and this will manifest more or less, and also privately or openly... it is as much of a choice as it can be pressure for the people who have been around you.
and at the end of the day... stupid people will always think someone is less of a man or whatever, for many reasons not just this one, but, for the most part they're just idiots being idiotic... so you should not care much about that. Now if those who think or tell you these things are people close to you, well... that's something you'll have to talk about with them and see how you will put a stop to it.
it's is also true, that one as a person, man or woman... should try to keep emotions and feelings on check, there are better and healthier ways to handle them, and it's not ideal to cry (based on the picture you posted) over "everything and anything" because sometimes crying about things can block us from addressing problems or negative situations in a better way, but that would a very subjective and complex situation to narrow down right now, I hope you get the point of it anyway. As a sensitive and emotional guy myself I would like to believe that it’s “okay” to express yourself but let’s face it. Who do women usually have strong feelings for vs. who do they friendzone?
The real reason so many women tell men it’s “good” and “okay” to be sensitive is simply it makes them feel better about themselves. Lots of them are jealous, intimidated and envious that typically have better emotional self control. So we they see a man being they well less threatened.
But on a deeper subconscious level (where sexual attraction and mating decisions are made) most women hold men to a higher standard then they hold themselves on this. The look to us for strength and unfortunately they too equate being emotional as a female quality. In fact in my experience they can be MORE judgmental than other men.
I still remember one girl say she was leaving me for someone else many years ago because I was too sensitive. She was ballistically sensitive in her lesser moments. Way worse than I ever was. But still I was more sensitive than the average guy and she doesn’t see that as “a real man”.
Call her a pos bitch and she was. However at least she was honest. Most women won’t come out and admit that but what I said above is true. I know she’s not the only one who lost interest and/or friendzoned because of that.
Anyway it’s okay to be sensitive IN PRIVATE. Cry but do it when nobody is looking. Find a counselor (for real not being cliché). Dump it out but do it discreetly. You need a tough face in publicYou can do that if you want but it will just make you look beta and no woman will ever desire you anymore. Even if you do manage to date a femoid acting like that, they will still cheat on you with various Chads due to their extreme thirst for brutish cold alpha gigachads. They say they like emotional guys but it is all lies, look at the men who get all the pussy vs. the ones who don't. It's not the emotional men bringing women home from the parties. I have never been to a party but I assume this is the truth based on the guys I have talked to.
I have yet to get laid, but I am choosing to be alpha so females will desire me. I do not really feel emotions or care about anyone else so I will definitely be getting lots of sweet poon and I will get to plant my seed in many beautiful women. After that I will discard them like trash and block them just like the all the fuckboys do it's going to be epic. Perhaps some beta can raise my fetus idc. If you act like an emotional little bitch then you are beta, pathetic and a complete failure as a man. Women will not desire you even if they say they do because they are all liars trust me I know a lot about females.This is always a strange question. No, men should never get caught by a soul crying. Only their mother can see them cry as kids. After puberty, dumb move. I don't care if your overwhelmed with emotion, you suck it up and go hide.
And what's worse women claim they love emotimal guys. They do love emotional friends. Most women will lose respect for their man, as a man, even they even see him cry at parents or children's funeral. That's just the reality. I have never seen a grown man cry, who was anyone.Expressing one's emotions openly expresses vulnerability which in a callous environment is a opportune liability. It 'clouds' one's judgements, ... promotes hesitation and second guessing.
NONE of which... are laudable 'survival skills'~
I've taken human life four times.
I NEVER initiated the circumstances,
... always given the Aggressor an alternate way to go...
but in retrospect, if ONLY ONE was 'going home' ... I voted for ME!
In hindsight I wept about their loss, mourned about THEIR choices,
AFTER ME & MINE WERE 'SAFE".Its a vastly outdated stereotype.
My mother was not the very best , but she was okey , The one thing where she was way beyond her times was males expressing emotions , please NEVER suppress your emotions as a male , always cry if thats how you feel.
Life is not a droning grey , its a series of very mixed feelings , its important to always express those feelings , you are more of a man for your expression.
Im the first to sob at a " chick flick " even though I know its just a movie , its expression , and just like an artist , you must always be free to express.
Quite frankly , anyone who does hold a contrary view , is simply outdated and incorrect , you listen to your heart , and always be free to express your emotions , its part of being a modern male.Well that's their own doing men I mean always having to prove how you they are take a ass whooping and not shed a tear, get shot and laugh it off life their girl and become a drunk never showing any emotion or be seen as a girly dude, today we call them gay it's dumb and ignorant we all have feelings and need to display them when it's called for not saying a dude should tear up cause his cat ran up a tree, but if a tragedy befall you let it out don't go get drunk and kick everyone ass who cross your path, if more men express their emotions we just might learn to get along but women being women and keeping up crap won't be long till on of you say the hell wrong with him weeping like a baby cause he got a paper cut the sissy, so there's no way way out can't win emotional battle seem women get a tooth knocked out she grinned and said you got like a girl what are you a girly man or á sissy boy and knocked dude out do you can't please everyone why I say be yourself and damn everyone else
Not around women. How can she respect a man to protect her and provide while watching him cry on her shoulder. Men should only cry or be emotional around other men. How can a woman be empathetic to what the world expects from a man? She wouldn't know where to even start with forming a solution. Dont be emotional, especially around women. They say they want you to be open with your emotions but its a shit test for them to gauge your true strength. Talk to other MEN about your emotions guys, especially your Dad or someone you look up to and respect.
Well you know what I said fuck everybody says that if there is something that touches me something that hurts me deep inside if I start to cry I'm not going to apologize about it I don't even give a fuck what other people think when I feel something towards somebody something that has happened to them I'm going to feel however I want to feel in that moment I don't care if it's forbidden I don't care if there's rules I don't care about anything it's nobody else's business except for mine and if I do it right in front of somebody and if they don't like it they can go fuck themselves they're not me
Lol who said it was forbidden? its not a law that men shouldn't be sensitive. why do men always come on these sites whining about stuff like this, u rarely see women whining about being oppressed and the weaker sex
Eh be who you are. And i know there's gonna be a bunch of women who find men who display their emotions as unattractive. They are simply not your "fit" is how id put it. So dont chase them, So don't change yourself. Simple.
On the other hand, crying all the time being too moody is something thats not attractive even outside of romantic context. Most people find that annoying. So if you are that type, i would say you should work on yourself (this is not saying you should hide your emotions though)I love a sensitive and emotional man. I think there is actually strength in not being afraid to show this side of yourself.
Who said it's forbidden? There is no written rule or law for this. I think men can be sensitive and emotional, it's nothing tragic.
I know a few men that are more emotional than me and I don't mind at all.It's not forbidden unless you let others dictate your life for you..
Fuck what others say or think.. Be you, do you... Those that don't accept, that's on them not you, there's people that will.. Quality over quantityQuit being a whiny fuck and be a real man.
No woman wants a weak emotional man. That is THEIR job. They want their man to be their emotional rock. The lighthouse in her stormy seas of feelings and emotion in her little mind. The very last thing any woman wants is her man breaking down into tears every time she does.
Oh but they'll tell you they want to see your emotional side. They want to see your vulnerability. I'm here to tell you that the very second you show any weakness to your woman she INSTANTLY loses respect for you. And if this goes on long enough, she shuts down sexually - she loses the hots for you - or she cheats or bails. Or any combination of these. Then she'll go out looking for CHAD THUNDERCOCK.
Don't be a girlie-man. Ever see lions fuck? Be a lion, not a mouse.I don't think it's forbidden. We all possess feminine and masculine energy. Being emotional is a feminine energy. The key is, if you're a man don't let your feminine outweigh your masculine.
If he's a super masculine man, I would enjoy seeing him emotional at times.Of course you can be sensitive and emotional.
try going to friends funeral, your dads funeral
things that have meaning and are emotive.
yeah simply crying at nothing is a bit meh but it happens.
I've seen guys who have been in firefights in tears or close to tears and chocked up because their support dog was injured or killed.
It’s the full package is what matters, the ability to do it and then crack on with the job at hand.
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