Women, how often do you lie and manipulate to control men?

[lightbulb27]

A prior female in my life, was a master at "damsel in distress" successfully cajolling quite a few men to resque her. I wonder if that is rare or if most females do that and why.

Fellas... do you recognize when they manipulate?

[Lliam]

What noohair said.

Also:
Not all guys aren't exactly innocent, sincere little puppies. They do and say things to manipulate women into sexual relationships. They may buy flowers or gifts, and say things that women want to hear. They play on women's emotions just to get in their pants.

Women know how to play the game, too.

It's a dance that men and women do. They play the male/female game. But it's not all nefarious.

Not all women are so gullible that they don't know when a guy is playing the game.
And guys who get butt hurt when women try to play are pathetic. Are they so naive and gullible that they can't tell when a woman is being manipulative?

How 'bout this, from a song lyric? "Well you can keep on using me until you use me up." LOL

https://www.youtube.com/embed/XRBlyBxrpEs

Men and women are on their best behavior and use all kinds of tactics, either consciously or unconsciously, in order to lure each other into relationships or simply sex.

Some women withhold their virgin pussies as a lure to sign a legal marriage contract and get what they want.
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Some men present attractive gifts in an effort to lure women. Is a woman an evil manipulator for accepting gifts that she didn't even ask for? Is that what all women are ultimately after?
https://oceana.org/blog/sea-creatures-keep-love-alive-romantic-gestures

Traditional social norms placed men in the role of providers. It's normal for men to pay for dates and do other things to show respect and also demonstrate that they are good providers. Most women also adhere to traditional social norms. They enjoy being treated as if they are valued.

Guys who pay for a meal but get all butt hurt if their date decides that she isn't attracted to him after all are pathetic. "She USED me." Why do they consider that manipulation?

Some relationships fail. A man OR a woman can decide to break it off or even to cheat.

In the end, any man or woman who gets tricked into doing anything he shouldn't do is gullible. They should learn from their mistakes and move on.

[lightbulb27]

Valid point, men do this too. I wonder if it's more an element of personality. I don't recall trying to manipulate people to get what I want, wasn't a skill I developed. Agree that if people get upset about someone rejecting them, they need to work on their ego's.

I was quite gullible and unwise for long time due to inexperience.

[Lliam]

OMG. Was I ever clueless and gullible when I was young and inexperienced.

I never lied to a lady, and I never cheated. That would be despicable. But I sure put my best foot forward in order to impress ladies. Women do the same thing. Is that 100% honest? Maybe not. But it's better than self deprecation.

I got into relationships knowing full well that I had no interest in getting married. But I never felt the need to disclose that. They and I just had fun together and enjoyed life. It seemed like a normal thing to do. Were either of is being manipulative? Possibly. I don't know. It doesn't matter.

Only one of my girlfriends turned out to be truly manipulative. But I found out that she actually had psychological issues. All my other girlfriends were good people.

[noohair]

Humans use manipulation as a substitute for violence. Most women do not have the physical strength to force anyone. They learn to manipulate their parents when they are young. Guys learn it too. The lies make it an issue, Avoid liars of every sex.

[TrueConfection]

I'm guilty of manipulation, but in a different way. I'll agree with my husband just to get out of the conversation or to avoid a misunderstanding. If he presses me too hard I come back with, "There's not a single thought in my pretty little head." It turns him on and all is forgotten.

[Little_Bumblebee]

I hate lies, so I do my best to avoid doing so.

I don't think I manipulate. If I need help I genuinely ask for it. I don't lure people to help with looks or sex or something.

[Mulan8]

Never

[Anonymous]

they never ever stop