Why don’t men make the first move?

[Anonymous]

[lightbulb27]

I'm assuming it's when "you know somethings up", but they don't act. they aren't men but wounded little boys inside. That was me for a long long time. For whatever their reason, they know somethings up, but choose not to... self worth, fear, priority... like too much going on, they are with someone else.

For most of my life, it was fear from bad emotional programming/fear/shame and selfishness. The more attracted I was, the more I'd shut down. Otherwise, I'd come up with reasons to avoid or reject. It came from my inner emotions.. to protect my inner lack of self worth. Rather than think about her and how I could make her life better, I thought about myself... I'm talking about how I reacted/thought over most of my life, not one instance.

Emotional Abuse as a child lead to me feeling like I wasn't worthy, I'd run if I liked a girl and I'd freeze if one talked trying to get closer/intimate in that way. The few girls who tried to reach out were left baffled, rejected and confused. I recall feeling good when I'd reject her emotionally.. it is what I got, so I gave it to others. This was my sadness coming out as some other low emotion.

Lack of experience, self confidence and handling rejection is a factor as is shyness.

I put curses on myself. For example, I cursed myself that I never wanted a family after hearing about a man who lost his whole family in a car accident (high school).
Another root would be my family in that I didn't get support to talk to girls, have family of my own from my mom or dad as I can recall. I got ridicule from them, lots of put downs and as a sensitive kid, it dug deep into my psyche. It took to long to recover from all that as I avoided it all. So I stayed away from girls.

This is why I don't buy the concept of the book "he's just not that into you". That thought is a simple explanation for a complex emotional topic. Sure, maybe he's not... but he's messed up. Unless he can give you a clear confident answer, somethings messed up in him emotionally.

you may think it's all about you... your hair, nails etc.. I rejected girls for those reasons, but that's not the real issue.

I have a girlfriend now whom I love. I wouldn't if she hadn't put so much effort into understanding me and challenging my flawed self perceptions.

[PoliteSpeaker]

95% of people don't have an expectant attitude toward life aka a bad attitude. It's a lack of self-esteem, self-worth, self-image, awareness, and faith. All which are held in the paradigm except awareness. And the only way to change the paradigm is to do something outside the paradigm, which still requires repetition. The paradigm controls 95% of our habitual behavior and almost all of our behavior is habitual.

When we go to do something outside the paradigm it CAUSES FEAR. Fear activates the stress center of the brain which is the opposite of the reward center of the brain. It causes a lack of motivation or a lack of action. The word flee might be a good one.

If I ask you to sell your house and use the money to start your own business... How would that make you feel? If I ask you to drop out of college and start a business because you'll make more money doing that than whatever job you're planning to do, how would that make you feel? You see that is a sound idea but to most, it's not quite in harmony with their paradigm.
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Metaphysical perspective:

When you get emotionally involved with an idea of doing something that is not in harmony with your paradigm it sets up a uncomfortable vibration. Lets say you paradigm holds X ideas in it and the new idea is a Y idea... When you go to impress that Y idea on your emotional mind, the subconscious mind, the paradigm doesn't want to accept it. Thus the uncomfortable vibration.

Emotion = Conscious awareness of the specific of vibration you're in

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American Philosophy of Great Achieve by Napoleon Hill student of Andrew Carnegie
"ACCURATE analysis of over 25,000 men and women who had experienced failure, disclosed the fact that LACK OF DECISION was near the head of the list of the 30 major causes of FAILURE. This is no mere statement of a theory— it is a fact. PROCRASTINATION, the opposite of DECISION, is a common enemy which practically every man must conquer.

Analysis of several hundred people who had accumulated fortunes well beyond the million dollar mark, disclosed the fact that every one of them had the habit of REACHING DECISIONS PROMPTLY, and of changing these decisions SLOWLY, if, and when they were changed. People who fail to accumulate money, without exception, have the habit of reaching decisions, IF AT ALL, very slowly, and of changing these decisions quickly and often."

[AmandaYVR]

Yeah right. That's the stupidest thing I've heard in a long time.

Why don't GIRLS ever make the first move?

The guys are stopping because of the climate today. And girls' reactions, when they do.
And other guys don't, for the EXACT same reasons that girls don't. Who wants to put their neck out there and risk being rejected?

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

While I agree there are some guys around saying they are afraid to charged with rape if they so much go to a girl and politely ask her out.
That is an exaggeration.

[globetrotter22]

Female MHO.

[globetrotter22]

@AmandaYVR we need more women like you speaking up about this.

Besides being rejected what’s the worst that can happen to a woman approaching a man? I have never in my life see a guy act rude or worse publicly humiliated a woman for approaching them (this has been done to me and it was horrible). She has virtually zero risk of being #metoo’d as well. Why can’t they do it?

[AmandaYVR]

@globetrotter22 Thank you, globe 💐.
Yep, I know. Kind of makes you think - plus ca change plus c'est la meme chose.
Fear. They think it's "humiliating", "desperate." Uh... what do you think it is the other way around then?

Girls, want to know how to ask a guy out? ↗

Guys, do you like, or dislike, the idea of a girl asking you out? ↗

My highest upvoted topic here (all by men of course)
The Personal and Societal Benefits of Girls Taking the Initiative With Guys in Relationships ↗

[wonderfulstation404]

@This_Is_My_Opinion8 cuz tend girls exaggerate these exact same scenarios from person to person.
a girl's ideal guy: hey sexy can i get you number so we get to know each other?
girl: sure why not
not a girls ideal guy: hey sexy can i get you number so we get to know each other?
girl: sexual harassment...
the funniest thing is how sexual harassment can be changed to rape buy girls so obviously we are going to be cautious cuz the majority of us know we ain't your dream guy obviously were going to take precautions also lol what were yiu expecting

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

@wonderfulstation404 no matter how exaggerated a scenario is the odds that you will actually get in trouble because of it are slim at best. Mind you I am just talking about a situation where you approach a random girl on the street to talk

[AmandaYVR]

@This_Is_My_Opinion8 The 'threat of false claims of sexual harassment, and jail time' are way overblown by some men. I agree with you on that.
But I think it's the style of some men, to use such hyperbole, or worst-case-scenarios, to illustrate 'valid' reasons why they won't/shouldn't approach women anymore. It's like a persuasive argument essay style. It's one small portion of a larger pie.
But the fact is, that most girls/women are not receptive to guys nowadays. For various reasons, right. (It's complex. I'm not going to write about that now.) The whole venture has a very low payout, potential success rate. And it's possible it could go very poorly.
But for most men, they reach out (say, on a dating app) and receive nothing but crickets. Miles and miles of nothing, no responses. The girls don't think they're good enough for them. The men know this. The men are fed up. The girls want the guys to rise up and "be better." Stalemate.

This is why I constantly propose that practically the only solution to this is... the girls must step up WHEN they are interested. When they have any curiosity about a guy.
But no. Flat out no. Almost unanimously. (There are some cool, brave, intrepid ones, but they are very rare. And, when those girls do reach out, they expect the guy to do much of the talking, planning, be the sexy Dom in bed and lavish them with praise. And in return? That's the question. "Prove it to us, to me, first..." "Prove you want me for more than just sex." "Prove you are worthy." But the guys can't even do that (if they wanted to) because they can't get a foot in the door. It's shut. The lights are off.

[AmandaYVR]

So the claims that some men are making that they're goona get thrown in jail, lose their job, have their life ruined... hyperbole, for the most part. (Except in the UK, apparently. I have yet to find this newly enacted law.) But there's little point in most men continuing to make the first move. That is a fact. They have to be great, 6' tall, make more money than the girl and share it, have a very thick skin, and have the patience to prove themselves through all the texting and have great 'socials' the girl can use to scope him out before ever agreeing to even so much as have coffee. Average is not going to cut it anymore. All those young males who are still living at home in their parents' house playing video games... they're shit out of luck, and not happy about it. The ones who are stable, intelligent, independent... they're generally not good enough for today's young females.

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

I see.
Well to be fair last Friday in my country was the first time in almost two years that the clubs were open. So many people went out to party like they just out of jail or something. My guess is that ladies were more receptive than ever to have a guy come up to them and offer a drink xD

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

I was always one to approach. A friend of mine who was very successful with girls said all guys need is two things, as long as they look half decent in the looks department:

1. "Lata"
"Lata" translated to English is "can", but in this context my language means a mix of confidence and "I don't give a fuck" attitude. Not rude, lay back, relaxed and confident.

2. Law of large numbers
There are hundreds of girls going out to have fun every night. Don't put all your chips on the same girl if it's not working move to the next until you succeed.

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

Basically, as long as you look half decent, have "lata" and keep approaching girls you will find that hot one, if not on this bar on the next, that will fuck you. Because she likes your sense of humour, because you smell like her absent dad, because she is that horny that night, doesn't matter.

Literally walk to a girl, talk to her, things are going well? Great. Things are not going well? Great too, check how good that other girl across the room looks.

[globetrotter22]

@This_Is_My_Opinion8 @AmandaYVR if things keep going the way they are going nowadays girls will HAVE to step up. Also guys need to know how react appropriately when women approach. Most of us are not used to having women regularly approaching which is another problem on its own (I can write extensively on that).

But overall it’s a necessary and good thing when women approach. It takes the guesswork out of things. Also I don’t know what the hell women are scared about when it comes to that. I can’t remember a single incident in my entire life where a man acted rude or publicly humiliated a girl who approach him.

But seriously how long is going to take for women to finally wake up to this? If you keep rudely rejecting men over fickle issue and/or are too chicken shit to just say hello to a guy you like…. what are your chances of finding your ideal mate? They can play these games only for so long than one day they wake up middle aged and lonely.

[AmandaYVR]

@globetrotter22 I agree with you. 🎯

[devilish-cutie]

because all they teach as is wrong.
men are actually afraid and only make movies if a woman makes it very clear she likes him and only cause its expected of him to make that move
other men that make move on you usually do it cause they dont really care about you and only want sex

[LinaDaGoddess]

That makes a lot of sense, but at the same time I feel like men are more complicated than we are. Lol

[JSmuve]

Say it with me boys and girls: Because women don't put themselves in positions to be approached and asked out.

How many times a day do you go out where you can honestly say that this would be a very good time for a guy to approach you and make a move? My guess is 0 or 1.

And even then, that time for someone to approach you likely wouldn't last for more than 10 minutes before it's gone.

The fact is, women spend the majority of their days when they're not at home either on their phones, with their earbuds in, with their friends, running errands, buried in their laptops, or moving somewhere, generally completely disengaged with the outside world. And do they ever let us know that they don't wanna be approached when they're busy, which is the majority of the day. Mercy to the guy who tries to inconvenience a women when she's busy.

So it's no wonder that guys don't make the first move. You don't give guys the opportunity. Then when a guy does decide to be bold and try to pull something from nothing, he's at best met with a tepid, uninspired response from you or a flat out cold reproach at worst. Maybe he might succeed once out of every 20 times. But who's got the inclination to try that many times? We have lives too.

If we don't take the initiative and instead wait for indicators of interest, we could be waiting a bloody long time because lots of women suck at giving out their indicators, largely because they're so used to ignoring guys that they don't know how to signal interest or they're too self-conscious and don't want to appear "obvious". The end result is that your indicators wind up being either too subtle or too inconsistent for a guy, who's been conditioned to assume women do not want to be approached, to pick up on and act (assuming that you're even in a position where you can be reasonably approached).

Then there's the women who proclaim that guys should stop "annoying" women by approaching them because if a woman was interested, she'd make the first move herself (which we all know is a crock of shit or else this question, and all the variations of it that have been asked ad nauseum, would not exist).

So that's it in a nutshell.

[Novacane]

I would say blame 3rd wave feminism. We have really pushed this idea that women don't want to be approached and many women have come and complained about being approached by men. Don't get me wrong there are men that catcall and harass women and nobody is saying it's right, we can all agree that they are in the wrong but also understand not every man is like that if anything in most cases it's not but those are extreme scenarios.

As mentioned so many women have opened up about how they hate men even approaching them and start labeling them a creep, weirdo, etc. Even on social media, you can see all the women talking about the men that try to court them. We all know that there is a fine line between creepy and romantic and it all depends if the girls find you attractive. So men are finally fed up with the accusations that now you see men not even bothering with making the first move because let's are honest the likeliness that a man will get rejected by a woman is fairly high compared to the chances a woman gets rejected by a man which are very rare.

There are also many instances where women go out of their way to reject when not necessary, I once opened the door for a woman and she told me "I don't need a man opening doors for me" when I open doors for anyone man or woman. I've seen instances when a man tries to ask a girl a question and she replies "I have a boyfriend" before even hearing the question. Women just really went out of their way to make men feel bad for approaching and then complain about why they don't approach. We understand that not all women are like that, but all you need is one bad experience and that seals the deal.

[Finchie40]

I think today’s world with social media has been fucking people’s heads up and brainwashing people to believe that every girl is a whore and every girl is a cheater same goes for men , most guys are scared to get into a relationship or they feel she won’t be interested in him cuz he doesn’t compare to these ripped fit guys that are posted all over the internet that she is probably glued to so most people’s confidence levels have been shattered , I lived in a time where social media really wasn’t a thing , we didn’t have smart phones by our sides, so when you actually met someone you were attracted to and liked them , you had a better chance of getting that person’s interest cuz you weren’t being bombarded by tons of other options , with smart phones people tend to have a lot of options , This world to me has been going to hell in a hand basket , it’s sad to see , it’s like tables have turned so it’s ok for a girl to make a move on a guy instead of the other way around , if she really likes a guy she honestly should make a first move as well because nowadays no one really knows and feels confidence about themselves

[Juan_Curious]

You are right in most things you say, however our generation was also fucked up and brainwashed by TV. Not at the same level as by social media but at a very severe level, too.

[Finchie40]

Yes I agree tv is fucked as well but for the most part we didn’t carry a tv with us. At all times like we do with cell phones lol at least I hope not lol Bottom line tv and cell phones are money making tools , social media was designed to sell things and to target people into believing things , shit even before TV’s were around there would be salesman riding around on horses to peoples homes trying to sell them Bullshit gimmicks , so this kind of shit has been going on for. a long time , so bottom line it’s all about money , they don’t care about the effect on people’s lives they just want you to buy and believe this is how life is , dress like this, look like this , if you want that girl you need to do this and look like this , peoples confidence levels and self esteem have been destroyed , if people actually put their phones down and stopped being glued to tv and social media apps they would see that the world is really a beautiful place and that everyone around them in not a model and stop basing image and status as a reason to like someone , or comparing your lives to others , relationships are starting to become a thing of the past cuz no one really trusts each other anymore and people are starting to just like the convenience of each other and have higher standards of what they are attracted to , fuck having a heart , if you are too nice to someone you better plan on being treated like shit and walked on. I know I am just babbling on but so many things I see different compared to how it was back when we were younger , Also Whatever happened to AIDS and STD’s it seems everyone just having sex with each other like that doesn’t exist anymore , More girl’s are becoming prostitutes and selling themselves for money , what happened to morals and respect for each other? I was happily married to a girl that I thought I was going to spend the rest of my life with , are marriage was going strong until Facebook got her attention and she was secretly flirting

[Finchie40]

With a old co worker that was married as well , flirting with her behind my back and his wife’s back , and convinced my wife to meet him at a hotel to duck her , back then we shared one phone in the house now that everyone has their own phones everyone has options into peoples lives, everyone of my exes has reached out to me trying to get me back , Girls I thought I would never see again , But with these easy access you can’t trust anyone, it’s sad , I asked my Dad how him and my Mom stayed married for so long and his words exactly were because we don’t carry around those stupid things

[iWantToCry]

They almost all are. Theyre designed to have sex with any threatening male they bump into

[iWantToCry]

Ask me how I know

[Juan_Curious]

Yes, I agree. At least today's people are brainwashed while moving lol. I remember before social media, when people stayed 10 hours per day on the sofa watching every shit they were showing on screen. Finally, every era has its' own way to burn braincells. But I agree that social media have a deeper impact on people's way of thinking. I guess they were initially created to make people free and finally most of them became a way of massive control.

[Diodoro]

Either we are not attracted,
you're giving off signals that we shouldn't,
we were thinking about how do it,
we don't notice you,
or just scared..

For me I'm not really thirsty about it. It mostly depends on the location, and occasion on whether or not I'll even approach so to speak. I'll set up opportunities for something to happen, but I just expect opportunities to come by so I don't go chasing them

I prefer to deal with girls who are engaged, rather than girls who are averting their gaze for whatever the reason may be. Maybe their social anxiety, maybe they don't wanna get caught staring. I don't know or care

I'll talk to the girl that's already looking at me with good eye contact and smiling which is one of the best invitations you can ever give a guy.

As a girl you can't be avoiding people, avoiding eye contact, looking away, sitting with the shoulder shrug posture and at the same time be wondering why guys aren't coming up to talk to you. All of those behaviors exhibit not wanting it lol

[globetrotter22]

Most men do NOT like approaching women but we do it because we HAVE to. Very rarely do women approach men also women don’t handle rejection as well as men do (guys grow callus over time). I’ve had some women be extremely rude and I’ve been publicly humiliated a handful of times. It was horrible but I was told to “man up” and I have to. That’s not going to change but I wish women had more respect for what it’s like for guys in those scenarios.

Also I’ve been called “gay” more than once by a frustrated girl I turned down. How do you see guys labeling women lesbians for when they get turned down?

Then of course came along #metoo which immeasurably screwed this all up on entirely different level.

Ladies true equality requires work and risks from women as well (surprise surprise). The guy you like may have no idea your interested. We can’t read minds. Also the chances of him being rude to you is exponentially lower than vice versa. Even if you find out he isn’t interested, so what? At least you know where he stands and you did what you could.

If more women approached men then we wouldn’t have half the frustration we have now in society. All you need to do is say hello to him and smile. You don’t even have to lead the conversation like men are expected to. He will get the hint and take it from there.

[TDDMS]

I will speak for myself on this issue and I will draw from my experiences between American and east Asian women primarily Korean and Japanese. Here's what I've encountered with American women:

Very combative
Extremely arrogant
Too many have drank the feminist Kool Aid whether consciencly or not
They don't take care of their bodies.
They make dating and relationship insanely difficult
Too many exhibit symptoms of the Cluster B Category (narcissistic, psychopath, BPD)
When I engage w/ an American woman, I feel at too many times I need to keep a lawyer on retainer and keep said lawyer on a 30 second standby.

Here's what I've experienced with east Asian women:

Very easy to approach and ask them out. They generally make it easy for a man to approach them.
Flirting with them is easy.
Expressing my relationship and sexual desires is easy.
They keep their bodies in shape
If I brush up against their tits or ass, I don't have the sudden need to call in my army of lawyers to defend myself
The vast majority of them have not drank the feminist Kool Aid. And in fact mock women who do.
Many of them are on the level
When we have differences, unlike American women where I feel like I'm in a locked cage with a Bengal tiger fighting for my life, differences are easy to work out and navigate.

So that's why I rarely approach American women.

[crazy8000]

There are other thing's to life than female's and their laziness on this point.

You can't attract them by just being a female.

You have to put some real effort.

To much villainizing of a gender.

Get accused of horrible thing's that isn't true.

Get beaten because of your unrealistic fear that they are gonna do thing's that has low likelihood of happening.

Female hate of males.

Bad attitude.

Repulsive/no attracting signals.

Feed up by all shit.

Have enough with themselves.

Can't get attracted to female's that doesn't take first initiative and keep on taking them to get him.

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There can be many different reasons.

I give this advice.
Take a look at yourself and the primary group you belong to.
Is it something you would do if it was reverse.
If not. begin to think of becoming a better person yourself.

People usually want change but doesn't want to do the change.

People that usually have to do thing's and get shit tends to stop doing it. even the same when getting used.
it have nothingto do with weakness. only narcissistic individuals say that to keep someone at bay and not change.

[cth96190]

Why?
Because women have made it too dangerous for men to have interaction with them, let alone make a sexual advance.
The list includes, but is not limited to:
1. False rape allegations.
2. Sexual harassment allegations.
3. Title IX.
4. #MeToo.
5. Anti-catcalling laws that make it an Orwellian thought crime and a hate crime to have any form of interaction with a female.
Women, as a collective, have made themselves so toxic that only a man who had a death wish would be in the same room as one.

[CarolineW]

I think a lot of them are just nervous. I imagine that if you are not a super confident guy, then approaching a girl is a big, big thing. Getting knocked back must affect their confidence as well, which is why, if a guy approaches me, and I am not interested, I try to be sensitive and polite when I say no.

[FraS92]

Or you could approach

[globetrotter22]

Thanks for being considerate. But you do realize what #metoo has done to men (especially good men) in these scenarios?

[nice-girl]

If they don't make the first move it means that they don't like enough the girl. Second, they might fear rejection.
Also, the woman must have an open energy to be approached by guys. When someone shows some closed body language signs she communicated in a non-verbal way that she doesn't want to be approached, even that she is not verbally talking. Studies show that 70-90% of communication is non-verbal. Guys who are better at getting social clues understand this and avoid rejection by not approaching her.

[Kiss_Me]

Its called limiting beliefs. There are TONS of articles and videos on the subject. I suggest giving some of them a read/ watch.

Guys have things happen to them. Their brain attempts to lock onto why it happened. Since negative things are easier to remember, they lock onto some (often false) reason why it happened. Over time, these limiting beliefs can accumulate and cause significant confidence problems.

To directly answer your question: Guys falsely feel the chances of success are slim to none, so they do not even try. - OR - They feel the social penalties for even making an attempt is way to high. Its much lonelier but safer to just being perceived as a friend.

[daisy_jones]

Sometimes they are just completely oblivious to girls flirting with them. I had few of my guy friends tell me that unless a girl is flirting REALLY obviously with them, they wouldn't think she's interested. Usually, they will make a move if they are sure a girl likes them cause they don't want to get rejected, just like us.

[ChiTown33]

The first part of this is absolutely true. I was talking to this woman who approached me. It wasn't till she had climbed onto my lap and started grinding on my leg that it hit me. " oh, I think this woman likes me, this isn't just idle conversation". Lol talk about oblivious.

[Effably]

Why should we? Get me right, we often do the whole approaching and asking the other one out and all. That said I want a go-ahead, sign of interest prior to this. If a girl isn't giving me any go-signs I am also not going to approach, barring some special circumstance.

So well, if you are not flirting it and making your own interest clear, of course most guys won't try to make thing awkward for both of you. Even the hardcore experienced player type will look for some sort of signs of approval.

[dragoblack]

I don't because of my history of constant rejection of being told, "I'm not interested", "I'm already with someone" ,"i don't find you attractive at all", "i don't think of you that way", "eew, no!" And having women walk away ghosting mid conversation, Along with my unwillingness to play bullshite mindgames, use manipulation tactics, and play "the chase" (which can be dangerous because men don't understand if women who play the chased are playing hard to get, or actually meant "no")

[TheSpaceGnome]

Why don't women make the first move?

The answer to either question is some do, some don't.

I don't becuase the women always do it first. it takes me a long time to figure out a person's true self (usually about 3 years), and until I know them fully, I won't know if I even wanna make a move.

Most of the women I hang out with on a daily basis that like me tend to make a move on me within a few weeks or months, long before I would have, and long before I'm ready to give an answer.

[godfatherfan]

Men should be asking that of women. Young women seem to be ok with making the first move. Very very few women of my age will make the first move. I am sick of doing it. I want to know she is actually interested in me, not just going along until she finds someone better just to get some free meals or drinks.

[FraS92]

Yes, I don't get why men keep paying for women. They don't owe them anything!!

[DonkeyDan]

We do, ok not all of us, but most first moves are by men. Many men won't make a first move out of fear of rejection. Traditionally women would never make the first more as it wasn't seen as ladylike, but in recent years more and more women are taking to the first move which in my eyes is great, it shouldn't have to be all on men.

[Jamie05rhs]

Because it's been beat out of us from a young age. Social conditioning. The brain learns that certain behaviors are good or bad. It's kind of hard to overcome.

Even if 75% of women want us to change, we're still going to defer to the 25% of women who don't. Because the more conservative viewpoint is what shapes the standards of society.

[hahahmm]

What's in it for the guy? Women are dangerous to men because she can accuse him of sexual assault/harassment and destroy his life without evidence. Plus the average woman today thinks that life is all about herself. She has nothing to offer that he can't get from every other woman. There's nothing special about her that makes him focus on her.

[ThoughtCatalog]

Hello 🙂


First, let's define taking the first step. Taking the first step is a disgusting gamble. When a man takes the first step, he tramples on his pride, disregards his ego, chains his self-confidence to his feet, and thus engages in gambling.


Think now. A man got a urge to gamble. He trampled on his pride. He ignored his ego. He chained his self-confidence to his feet. In short, he sacrificed a lot of things. He went and gambled and opened up to the girl. The girl refused this quite nastily. Do you think it would be easy for a man to return all this? Of all the sacrifices gone to waste? That his ego, pride, and self-confidence were shattered?


So to sum it up, the first step is a disgusting gamble. It's a risky and disgusting gamble. The man who doesn't take the first step is smart and isn't stupid to take all the risks.