Why do you have a gun out when your 16 year old's date is picker her up for dinner?
Why are you telling your girlfriends and your wives to put on sweatpants when your bros come over to watch football?
Because they know exactly how men talk about women when women are not in the room. Unless you are calling out your male friends out on that behavior, you are part of the problem.
Why do men believe that it is ALL MEN, about other men?
"Why do you have a gun out when your 16 year old's date is picker her up for dinner?" FIfteen years ago, when I had a step-daghter, I would tell her dates "I have a shotgun and I know how to use it. . . . And I MIGHT be joking."
"Why are you telling your girlfriends and your wives to put on sweatpants when your bros come over to watch football?" If my step-daughter was walking around the house in just her panties and a tee-shirt, I would tell her to put on some pants before visitors arrived. Otherwise, they would be staring at her panties the entire time they were at my house, and that would be uhealthy.
"Because they know exactly how men talk about women when women are not in the room. Unless you are calling out your male friends out on that behavior, you are part of the problem." The fact that men don't follow though on YOUR proposed solution doesn't mean that they aren't dealing with it in their own way. Don't expect men to react the same as would women, because. . . we're different!
I don't but maybe it's the almost asexuality I present with (which fucked up part of my span of medical conditions led to this I don't know)
You know I'm the last potential carrier for this branch of the family name and honestly knowing that I likely can't see a next generation is strangely a bizarre comfort but enough of that
Let's get down to brass tacks it would be interesting to follow up on that regular blue anon that mentions seperating men and women maybe say an experiment with a few on each side maybe 6 and try it for a year and see if they become murderous or just masturbate or turn to homosexuality, prisons would suggest the possibility of all the above
N. b Hey, I've had a gun in my face before with my first girlfriend's dad... Okay, it was deactivated but imagine when I took this gun and popped the clip out onto his desk and we ended up drinking vodka and laughing about it, I decided to leave out my uncle's real gun I'd handled a few years earlier was built on the same 1911 platform
I tend to spend a lot of time in heavy male dominated places. I’m not sure this is perfectly fair to say men don’t take these steps to protect woman, naturally. Maybe this is just my area that I grew up in. The men who act the fool tend to be the single man out and corrected by all the other men, in my experience anyway. Not that they aren’t aware I can speak up for myself either (in personal situations this has happened). It’s all subtile or direct gestures by the majority. This can be bike shops, and or private gatherings. This isn’t just men, woman get called out too. Nobody likes a touchy-feely woman around either and are told as much. Personal space is a biggie here. Again, this might depend where you are in the world.
Internalized misandry. Men have been demonized so much in our misandrus culture most boys hate themselves. Schools teach that ALL. Men are xxxxxx. No one even challenges it anymore. I remember my freshman orientation, thay basically taught us that we we're all a bunch of horrible potential rapists and at best were oversexed , heathens with no self control or feelings of our own. That if a man was so drunk he couldn't stand and and a wine took off all his clothes and had sex with them. That if that women had one drink he raped her.
It's amazing to me that the behaviors attributed to all men are so rare that many bad behaviors that I was told are common in men , I've never actually whitnessed.
The unfortunate effect of stereo typing, the issue is that men don’t really care about it at all until it starts directly impacting them. Then they focus of that more than the actual source of the issue.
Most guys know what other guys think , so when a guy loves his girl his natural instinct is to protect her , he doesn’t want other guys checking her out and making passes at her , Most guys can take flirting to a full extreme and don’t care if the girl is married or has a boyfriend cuz he is thinking with his dick , A girl will think her man is just insecure and controlling when really he is in love with her and protecting her , Why most guys hate when their girl’s go out for girls night to bars etc cuz guys know what other guys are thinking and what other guys can do , He feels like he is not there to protect her or she might be tempted to do something that she might regret afterwards, when a guy loves a girl he becomes very protective of her , he doesn’t want some other guy getting her interest
I can't see myself doing any of that if a boy is picking up my daughter I will show respect to my daughter so he understands how to treat her
And ss for having my boss over to watch a game. First of all I'm not to tell my girl friend or wife what to wear That would never even entered my mind. And if I ever did anything like that I would hope she would tell me to go fuck yourself she's going to wear what she wants to wear and then she would say you guys better clean up your fucking mess LOL
Hmm do you let your man walk in underwear or topless when your friends come home?
Why they hold gun to guys for date let me give a different perspective which you might not like.
Its not because the guy is bad , maybe they want to protect you from unwanted pregnancy at young age people want some experience both men and women.
They don't tell their own children much because they know they won't listen or do the opposite in spite of something or being rebel.
Its easier to straighten up someone else then one of your family members lesser consequence or less drama.
I am not sure about now but earlierost parents wanted their children to have settled life and at young age just not to sleep around or get impregnated.
I want to remain respectful but I think the comic you provided is very immoral. It implies that because men (according to some people) are more privileged, the inequalities they do face shouldn't be addressed, corrected, or considered. The comic is explicitly condemning people who "protect the protected" or "defend the defended." This is what people mean when they say they have an aversion to modern-day feminism. They don't appear to want equality or to help men, they only appear to want to bolster themselves.
Yo you aren't a dude so you can't know how we talk when you're not around. Some things with guys are universal. Like if I see an attractive girls bare ass I'm probably going to be aroused. It's not that all men are exactly the same but we have very similar instincts when dealing with women.
It’s more like “Why do SOME men...” instead of “Why do men...” I’ve never brandished a weapon when suitors come to the house, or told my girlfriend how to dress. I’ve never known guys who do this. That said, I have known of some possessive or controlling men who probably did this sort of thing. I just don’t let them in my social circle.
"Because they know exactly how men talk about women when women are not in the room. Unless you are calling out your male friends out on that behavior, you are part of the problem"
in other words we can't discipline our women how to act when men are around. we have to become Khal Dragos and rebel on our own friends (who we most likely know longer than our s/o) just because our women is rebellious and wants to dress however she wants among other men; major red flag in your part
You discipline a child or a pet not a spouse, that not your responsibility... a better response would be to call your so called friends out for objectifying and sexualizing women based off of what the chose to wear.
Do you know the difference between accountability and discipline, or do I need to dumb it down to help you understand?
A good example of hypocrisy would be holding two different people to two different standards of modesty. A bad example would be twisting words and making false comparisons.
Yeah it seems like you’re trying so damn hard to one track this so called “accountability” into your favor like you do in most of your other posts.
But no, If you come to my house smelling like a dog then it’s obvious that my dogs are gonna approach and sniff you. I’m not gonna yell or whip their asses for doing something that it’s in their nature to do
I can stop them from approaching you but believe me when I say they’re still dogs
No because none of my friends are like dogs, they’re human with morals and self control. however I can’t stop them from checking out my girl Specially if my girl is trying to be an exhibitionist
also I’m not their father, it is not my responsibility to train them to become asexual and again if my girl wants to be an exhibitionist then she should suffer the consequences too.
It sounds to me like your father failed to do that with you and your other siblings
no shit! I was talking about your logic on how supposedly we men have to father our friends to be asexual losers just because they checked out our girl who apparently wants to be an exhibitionist
I didn’t say that, there is a difference between holding your piers accountable for their actions when you are around them and trying to parent someone and if you are unable to comprehend the difference between that and the difference between being respectful and being asexual. Then there is no point in continuing a conversation with someone is unable or unwilling to comprehend basic English.
I'm not defending other men from generalizations, just myself. Why should I call out men on their behaviors? They are not me, I'm not responsible for their behaviors in any way.
I am going to have a quarrel with someone who labels me things I'm not however, because they are making personal attacks against me.
Well I mean would you want your husband or boyfriend walking around half naked or with his dick swinging in the wind when your female friends came over?
i like to to wear boxers or just sweatpants a lot at home. If my partner had female friends coming over I’d cover up.
i just ask that she give me the same respect if I had male friends coming over.
When you phrase your question "Why do men" or "Why do all men" It automatically makes the question inherently sexist, and thus automatically tainted.
A small minority of men are like this. Hating all men because of what a few do, is not the right path. Part of why feminism is failing. your hatred of men here is not only obvious its comical and pathetic.
'why do you have a gun out...' HOLD UP! You might wanna change who you hang out with, that doesn't sound like a very stable person hahahahaha wtf Never told my girlfriend to put on sweatpants when I had guests lol, I mean getting dressed is normal but she can do whatever she likes. And I'm not hanging out with the kind of dudes who'd drool over my girlfriend like that, much less have them over to my house, what kind of a 'bro' is that lol
No one cares. Visit Afghanistan and tell all the women there how oppressed you are in the land of the free. Tell them how you must suffer the horrors of man spreading and mansplaining and how guys talk about what they’d like to do sexually to various women. I’m sure you’ll have their deepest sympathies.
Don't women ever get annoyed about the way other women talk about their male relatives. Mother-in-laws often hate their daughter-in-laws do they not, and is it not sometimes because they see their own worst qualities in other women? In addition it is hard for men to find friends, harder for women I would say considering that women seem to have more friends, so yes we do turn a blind eye to some misogynistic things are friends say.
I can't assume every single person who admires my car is intending to steal it or call them all out saying, "Hey, don't talk about my car!" The best I can just do is lock the door and install some security.
Same for women, no? Say an acquaintance of yours says, "Hey, your boyfriend is hot!" You wouldn't call that out and risk starting a fight over it, would you? It might just be intended as a compliment. That doesn't necessarily mean her plan is to do something unethical like trying to steal your boyfriend.
The point of the analogy wasn't ownership but to protect what we care about from harm's way without being overprotective. It's a flawed analogy but the best I can come up with so far.
@Subarugirl You are correct men understand exactly how men think and act and talk when women aren't around. The issue is we spend a ton of time sheltering women from this. To the point where when women are told uncomfortable truths they just can't handle it.
"Why are you telling your girlfriends and your wives to put on sweatpants when your bros come over to watch football?" Any girl I was ever with wouldn't want me walking around with my dick swinging when her friends come by.
When you remove the gender restriction on rape laws- then just like every other form violence, the majority of victims are male. That's the uncomfortable truth. Even with this uncomfortable truth, I'm not going to constantly bash men because the men who are responsible, are not the majority of men. And when women are victims (I hate that happens) they have a much better support system. Now I'm done and you can get the last word in this time.
@Subarugirl The FBI Defines forcible rape as “The carnal knowledge of a female forcibly and against her will.” In addition, “By definition, sexual attacks on males are excluded from the rape category and must be classified as assaults or other sex offenses depending on the nature of the crime and the extent of injury.
Women have the right to call unwanted, coerced sex rape The original FBI definition of rape specifically identified women as the victims, excluding the possibility of male rape victims. When the FBI updated that, it did so in way that includes a small minority of male rape victims but excluded most male rape victims by retaining the “penetration” clause. Penetration of any orifice must occur for rape to have happened. The FBI does collect another set of statistics though, under the category of “other sexual assault” – it’s the awkwardly named “made to penetrate” category, which includes men who were coerced, tricked or bullied into penetrative sex with women they would otherwise not have had sex with. The National Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Survey similarly considers the two types of assault separately, despite the fact that occurrences are virtually identical. 1.27M women report rape (p.18) and 1.26M men report “made to penetrate” (p.19). By collecting the information under separate categories, following the legal definitions, women have the right to have their rapes called “rape”. Men do not.
Meaning made to penetrate is not counted as rape. Please before you spout feminist bullshit, do some actual reading on the laws..
@Subarugirl. If you only mean some men, why don't you say "some men"? It seems like less of a question than it is a chance to put down men using a question mark as a disguise.
As an experiment I did this Why do women fell so entitled? ↗ When I asked why women didn't get that it wasn't all women i was told " Because that's not the way you wrote it." I was also told that the post was vague and that abuse and entitlement are different things. I stand by my response to that. This was about a different post but applies the same I think " Yes. You are right. I'm only calling a woman entitled and phrasing it in a way that can be interpreted to mean all women. She is accusing men of being abusive, she included rape in there too by the way, and using the same phrasing. It seems like mine is less hateful unless you think that it's worse to be accused of entitlement than to be accused of abuse and rape."
No one is saying that woman can’t be taller or stronger than a man, but generally, men are, and men don’t seem to take issues with it. How ever they seem to take issue when you make a generalizations about violence and sexual violence. Are all men predators or mass shooters? No, of course not but statistically males are far more likely to be those things, as opposed to women.
Since 1982, an astonishing 121 mass shootings have been carried out in the United States by male shooters. In contrast, only three mass shootings (defined by the source as a single attack in a public place in which four or more victims were killed) have been carried out by women.
Actually I talk about the different forms of oppression that men and women face it todays culture. I’m not being sexist, I am talking about sexism, there is a difference
Actually, I’ve talked about why suicide rates among men are 2x that of women, why men are less likely to seek mental and medical assistance, and the negative impact that toxic masculinity society especially for those who have been raped and sexually assaulted.
Saying men are stronger than women is generalizing too, is that sexist? What about saying that men have more testosterone, or that they are taller, or that they are stronger? Is that sexist too? Because those are all generalizations too..
It is a generalization because not all men are taller and stronger than I am. On average men are taller and stronger than women, but not all men are. So by saying men are stronger than women is a generalization. It doesn’t mean all men are, but in general that is true… does that make sense?
First, you didn’t answer my question. Twice Second, men (on average) are taller and stronger then women. So, no it’s not a generalization. Not a stereotype. You are speaking of science as if it was a stereotype. So, I’ll ask you again. Are you trying to make yourself look better?
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