The problem is that women will try to play both sides of the coin when it suits them.
The streamer "Destiny" said it best: a lot of women will claim to be defenseless and powerless, and act like they were being manipulated into having sex because they didn't want to but felt bad about saying "no," or act like men need to hold their hands and take care of them every step of the way; but then at the same time say they want to vote and be treated like full adults. You gotta pick one.
Either you have license, or you don't. Either you acknowledge that you made a conscious choice to flirt with your boss to get ahead or you can complain about female representation in the workplace; but you can't do both. Either you acknowledge that you made a choice to wear sexy clothes to go clubbing in a rough part of town, or you can get mad at men for trying to protect you; but you can't do both.
You don't get to say that your boyfriend was trying to force you to have sex because he pouted when you said "no," and then tell me about how women can make their own medical decisions well enough to have unfettered access to abortions.
Very respectfully; y'all need to commit to one or the other.
Who is "us"? Women? Or are you talking about yourself or anyone who is like you?
Both men and women can be childish. If you think men don't hold other men accountable for acting like children, you're dead wrong. It happened to me in my younger years and I still see it happen to other boys or even men.
If men treat you like a child, perhaps it's time to look inward and see what actions and behaviors you're giving that give off childish impressions. Because I'm yet to find a respectable and mature woman being treated like a child. It is only the immature ones who do.
Guys will call us names when they can’t control us. I work hard physical work, I like to say I wear steel toes not stilettos, and guys call me rude all the time - why? I have no idea but they say it freely and I didn’t go digging for it lol
Some guys have it in their mind that a woman has pretty nails and pretty hair and pretty close and she is giggly and this and that guys also need to wake up and realize that not every woman is interested in looking and behaving that way and not every woman is interested in maintenance in herself like that because it’s time consuming it’s expensive and we got other things to do but are more fun to us then look good for a man.
I'm not a guy, but completely hear to rant with you girl. They treat you like a child, make you feel like they are the only experienced ones, and then when shit goes downhill, they say, "You should've known" blah blah blah. This is not all men obviously. Just speaking about the ones that treat myself or other girls like this. I'm ready to stop listening to guys. So much for "respecting your man" and "his wants". They love to be in charge because they have this thing about "leading us", but instead he is pushing me down. So girl, I feel you.
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Unlike men, women know how to handle their emotions healthily. We don't bottle up our emotions until we explode. We don't punch a hole in the wall if people say something we don't like. And we don't belittle the opposite gender to make ourselves feel better. "Women can't think logically" really? Men can rape women and make a fortune out of it when the women try to get an abortion. Whose logical thinking was that? Men. Women didn't get the right to vote until the 1920s. Why didn't it happen before? Because men weren't thinking logically. Name any war or any battle and who started it? Men, because of their "logical thinking." "We can't handle adult problems like men?" Yeah, keep telling yourselves that.
Because you are glorified children. Men can think with logic, women cannot- everything is through the filter of their emotions.
Case and point: the body count issue. No promiscuous women will admit that body count matters (or will argue that it doesn't matter) because they're stuck in their feelings- they can't possibly agree to something that will make them feel a certain way.
In terms of behavior, look at a happy women who is content in her relationship with a strong man- she's CHILDLIKE in her behavior. She'll giggle, bounce around, be playful, etc. I'm not saying you don't have intellectual ability, but because you're so wrapped up in your emotions you can't be expected to face real life challenges like men can.
This kids dad I saw once trying to get his 1 year old to stop touching something that could burn him and the baby cryed a lot when he wouldn't let him touch it, and while the baby was trying to fight the dad off the baby burnt themself and kinda looked like it thought the dad did it.
And sometimes when I'm dating women I feel like I spend way too much energy trying to figure out when I should say nothing and let her burn herself or when I should do something. Because chicks are hard headed af.
I think it’s how you present yourself if you say you are able to do things just as men then become more solution oriented. That is one thing I noticed about each gender. Most men don’t sit around and ponder about what happened and why, they like to get straight to the solution so they can stop worrying about it. Vs women don’t do as much and they usually jump to concision but no real solution. So if someone has to continuously help you find solution then they might treat you as a child (this can happen to either man or woman).
Generally? No idea.
But what you described sounds like misogyny to me. It's probably easier for people to be prejudiced when they simplify things as much as possible & don't hold themselves accountable for any errors in judgment/accuracy. So you might have to remind those people of complexities. Ones grounded in reality that contradict their arguments. And that can even be done by asking them questions in ways that allow them to further explain their logic. And everytime there's a flaw in it, ask questions that exploit that flaw.
It makes them feel powerful and in control when they put women down. Just like @slatyb stated, if they've got underlying insecurities and a low self-esteem that they don't want to acknowledge or deal with, they'll project this onto someone else.
Get as far away as you can
A there is a decent amount of women sadly do act like children and have mentalities/views like wanting to have their cake and eat it to. Obviously this is not all women but they do exist.
Now I can't speak for other guys but if I treat you like a child it's because your acting like a child. If your acting like an adult I'm gonna treat you like one, I will treat you based upon how your acting.
As for women a lot of women think primarily with emotion with some logic.
Guys however think mainly with logic with a little emotion if any.
Also men do call out other men for acting like children or treat them like children if they are acting like one as well so it's not exclusive to women just for future reference.
There are many women who have Disney-like views on love and have this want their cake and eat it too mentality. Couple that with the lack of personal responsibility and the amazing ability many women have to not be held accountable for their actions. Look at female rapists and pedophiles, prison sentences, homeless statistics. When women mess up they end up back with their parents. When men mess up they end up on the streets, dead or serving life sentences.
I’m not implying any of this applies to you at all. But there is a stereotype and a reason for it existing. I’ve seen it in my own family.
Well there's a few different scenarios (and like women with some things with us - it often translates to ALL guys/girls), some men (abusive and controlling ones) actually do this to manipulate some women. Sometimes women do act pretty immature (guys also, everyone can), example photo editing (with whiskers, bunny ears etc, to me that's pretty immature whenever I see that. I think "are you 5 years old?" lol Yet I see women in their 40's doing it!). Which kind of ties into my next point, I think we view it differently as well, such as women see it as "fun" vs immature (how we see it lol). And just a fact (as we see it, not insulting), a lot of women don't think logically often, or go with emotions vs logic more often it seems. But you're right, with BOTH genders, there's a lack of basic respect these days it seems. And only seems to be getting worse. It's really sad.
First of all, no one should be belittling anyone. Women need men as much as men need women. Our survival on this earth depends on it. That being said, yes, women have a tendency to be childish in situations. And what I mean by childish, in situations, women love to play games, try to manipulate and blame, and then play victim when it doesn’t go there way. Not saying that there aren’t actual victims out there. But if we look at a situation as a whole, and see the trajectory of choices, then some women (although they wouldn’t) should see they had choices out of those situations. One dude on here said it best, woman love to play two sides of the coin. And that usually doesn’t end well for them. Then they pass blame for thr decisions they made.
Some men treat you like children, because you behave like children. Or rather, you do it when it suits you and you don't do it when it doesn't suit you.
If you compete with men as an adult and, by chance, you lose (and with lose it means that things don't go the way you want them to or how you expected them to go); you behave like a child, therefore, since you already know the outcome of everything. The woman is therefore treated as a child a priori.
You want to stop being treated like a little girl, well, get ready to compete in the world of men with no advantage and get tons of anvils in the face every day.
As a guy, we all apologize to you girls seriously for sometimes saying such things to you. As guy we literally think differently from you girls, Guys think logically with absolutely no emotion attached literally, you girls seem to make decisions logically but with emotions attached and it just sometimes just drives us guys crazy Lol I'll be the first to admit. After my wife and I married when we were very young, emotionally guys aren't equipped to discuss feelings etc. mainly because we just block them out and do what we think is right supporting and protecting our families and children, now you have the first layer of any guys mind the most personal and forceful inside us. 😉😍😁
SOME women can have mental toughness and some can't & the man has to be the mentally tough one. The men who aren't mentally tough are the ones the world leaves out to die on both sides of the fence where as females nobody cares whether you're mentally tough and allow you to act like children & the world won't bat an eye because of the "emotions" women carry. But most women do not have mental toughness, not every women will step up and be like Mulan or decide to go do a dangerous job like offshore drilling.
Because you know that's something you will not do because it requires mental toughness so you would rather leave that to the man whose mentally tough.
a lot of women are severely damaged nowadays, i think it's social media that retards the emotional development and causes mental disorders by filling us with anxiety and making us compare ourselves to others.
i think women are damaged by this more as they have a deep need to socialize unlike men and are thus swept up by social trends easier.
I hate to get political but look at how some women handled the Trump election and the Roe vs Wade decision. They were “crying” and screaming into cameras and screaming at the sky. How often do you see men do that deranged bullshit?
Again I wish I didn’t have to use politics but honestly that’s one of the best examples of emotional immaturity from women. Of course not all women are like that but compared to men they are generally much worse.
On your last post you talked about being a attention whore... so thats pretty childish thing. That need for attention. Then posted about dressing for comfort, and people thingkimg your doing it for attention. When kind already addicted several thing in other posts about how love attention.
In the end this my last post and response to yeah. You only want validation and ignore people that give honesty. Because hell, like you said your an attention whore, and all want is attention.
It is a sort of unintentional projection. In most cases the actual problem is the guy has difficulty explaining what he's trying to explain. And so it comes out as an adult's version of baby talk while he works through how to do it right. But also once he learns to do it right (that is, with success, it does not necissarily mean well recieved) he becomes proud of having done something that is so challenging to a lot of men and, so of course, wants to show it off to women.
Its some really outdated really old ways of thinking that cause that. But there are women out there who use this is an excuse whenever they end up in trouble. Being a weak and stupid woman apparantly excuses unwanted behaviour. Its women like those that still keep that stigma alive
You’re with the wrong person who mistreat you like a child and not on his level. Therefore, he doesn’t see you as his partner, his significant other. Unless, you work for him or he’s your father, no man should ever make you feel that way if he loves you romantically and sees you as his future.
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