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I'm a young guy (23 years old) & I personally find it irritating & disgusting when guys want to be platonic friends with me
From my point of view if I wanted a "friend" it would be an attractive female because I would get "other" benefits aside from just being "platonic"
. why would I want the attention of men? Or why would I care what they like or don't? Or their hobbies?
I could gain the same beneficiaries from a very attractive female
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There’s a lot to gain from hanging out with other guys, especially if they’re successful and they’re going places. It’s networking my dude. If you want to advance in life and in your career, connecting with other men will go a long way.
Now, if you’re talking about hanging out with guys that aren’t going places, guys that aren’t working on themselves, guys that aren’t successful or chasing success… Then yeah, it’s kind of a waste of time unless they’re important family to you or something.
But what if I just want "pooty tang" AKA "high body count"
I have a very high sex drive & I only crave "casual encounters" with the opposite sex...
I'm comfortable being a loner & doing my own thang as long as I get to have "casual encounters"
If you want to get laid more, then working on yourself is even more important.
And connecting and networking with successful dudes will help you level up faster if you do it right.
If you’re a top 1% man, you’re going to be able to pull so many more women than if you’re in the bottom 80%.
But getting to the top 1% takes work.
So, at least for long term, leveling up is going to the best bang for your buck. No pun intended.
You may not need to hang out in person with other guys, but at least networking will be extremely useful.
The thing is
I already get some attention here & there from some woman & it's just my appearance that does that
I'm in great shape already & have a clear face
One of my family members who's a guy just walks around & gets all the attention... that's the route I want
If you’re happy with how things are, you can do you. 🤙
I’m just saying that if you hang out with the right guys, you’ll be able to level up faster, which will help you in all areas of your life, including your love life.
I'm curious
How rare is it for a guy to get almost every woman's attention just from the guy doing his own thang?
It depends. In terms of attitude, that’s the ideal attitude to have. To just do your own thing, and let women come to you. It should be effortless. Like moths drawn towards a flame.
But, if that’s not happening naturally yet, it means they need to level up more.
Most guys who are at the bottom of their potential can’t pull that off.
But, good-looking guys or guys that are leveling up, they’ll see more and more of that as they improve themselves.
I'd think he was raised without any masculine figures in his life as a child.
But what's wrong with just wanting to hang out with girls simply because you both "clique" but also because of "fun time"?
Why would any guy want to hang out with other guys IF he had the option of hanging out with attractive girls for platonic purposes as well as "fun time"
Because not all men are feminine sluts hoping for casual sex.
I knew a guy who would only want to hang out with girls just to "bed" them but he was considered very attractive
I see nothing wrong with his behavior
Well good for you then. But in my opinion it's disgusting.
So in your honest opinion
If a guy (regardless of his looks) only prefers to hang out with girls for sex & maybe some platonic reasons (movies, park,)
& Refuses to hang out with guys because he thinks it's "gay" to connect with another guy & in his opinion... why would he want to hang out with other guys? What would he gain?
A person who is specifically like you described obviously would not want to hang out with men, because he knows that his masculinity is weak and therefore feel threatened by other men. Plus he's not smart enough to recognize that one can learn and be valuable as a friend regardless of gender.
I'm not threatened by other men's masculinity
I don't consider myself masculine but I do have a very stubborn, overly selfish, overly self reliant, very goal oriented personality
I hold grudges very easily & do contemplate & overanalyze everything that's said or done towards me whether positive or negative
This might sound surprising but I was "invited" by a few "cocky alpha guys" to a few parties back in 2014 & to this day I'm wondering WHY
Because back in 2014 I had that "ansgsty, rebel, goth wannabe" vibe about me
Okay.
But what do woman considered "masculine"?
I do come off as angsty, rebellious, but I do keep my promises (bad & not soo good morally),& I'm very stubborn by nature
That's not masculine necessarily
A masculine man is logical, responsible, does not let his emotions bring about poor behavior, confident, and polite to others.
But what if the angsty, emotional guy is more methodical & can gauge situations & predict outcomes
I used to participate in sports & competitive online gaming when I was slightly younger... so I have a background in how to tactically win at a sport or online gaming match
Angsty and emotional (as in acting out on emotions all the time) both give off unmasculine energies. Fatherless middle school girl energies, to be exact.
Yes BUT take into account that if the guy is trained in some form of boxing or Martial arts? Then he just becomes a threat?
It's irrelevant.
Why? He can probably destroy most "alpha" men by then with his built skill set
So therefore he'd be considered somewhat of an *ALPHA" but still far away from the full blown definition because of how emotionally soft he is
Because I know that 99% of the people that go around bragging that theyre trained in martial arts and use that to prove that they are somebody are actually no better at real life fighting than your average joe.
Not necessarily
The rise of MMA has brought a lot of people to train... all levels & styles per say so you're "average" person might be an okay fighter or might know someone who's in the same level or above
It's all about perspective
But I'm starting to assume you don't like the idea of an ugly mofo whooping butt & walking with HIS "style" of confidence
It's almost like you want that fool to belittle himself just because you view him as beneath you
You asked for my my opinion on emasculated men and I gave it. Feel about it however you need to cope, but at the end of the day training in martial arts does not make up for low quality and lack of morals.
Now I somewhat understand why many girls wanted to either mess with me try to ostricize me when I was younger
I was seen as a pariah or "coward" for not living up to their petty expectations of what a guy "should be"
Makes me realize that I did the right thing of avoiding both genders all these years
Lol yes it's totally that and totally not that women can tell that you're just a creep who's only reason for being social is to try to get laid. I hope you decide to continue being alone 👌🏻
So you really look down on unattractive guys
So much hate
I'll leave it like this because I know you'll read this & you'll ignore it
I swear & I hope for the worst that you & your husband argue, belittle each other,& eventually one cheats on another & your divorce will be my paradise... a grin on my face
I hope that when you get pregnant your offspring comes out as a still born
(I'll be praying for that literally)
If I knew said what you've typed here to my mug... I would of definitely dropped you on the spot
Don't front
I'm out
1. I believe you because that's the exact angry, low quality behavior I expect from you
2. That's too bad because our relationship is amazing, as happens when two morally superior people get together.
3. I bet your daddy did all the things you wished on us to your mother before he abandoned you two.
4. I'll call the Waaambulance for you since you're so butthurt by the truth and clearly need it
Sounds counterintuitive to most people. Good for you.
I don't care what men think or want in anything
I feel offended when a guy wants to get to know me... why would a guy want to talk to me? Why doesn't that same guy go to another guy or rather female to throw his banter towards too?