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Yes, but mostly because most people don’t really understand fundamental health and fitness. I’m willing to bet that most people would have looked at me and considered me fat when i was running twenty miles, bicycling forty miles and swimming six miles every week. Not to mention participating in organized runs and obstacle courses every month. I was extremely fit, but most people would have said i was fat. The BMI is a scale and it’s not unflawed. Before i gave up bodybuilding, i was classified as “obese”by the BMI, despite being muscular and able to run ten miles without a break.
The irony is that a lot of people would also look at a very skinny woman and assume she’s healthier than a fat woman. I’m betting on the fatty’s ability to run a 5k and bench press a fair amount over the malnourished twig.
That said, the glorification of morbid obesity these days has me concerned. Shaming overweight celebs for losing weight and glorifying people who almost certainly have a host of health issues from their weight is just completely backwards, in my opinion. I remember when “The Biggest Loser” was a popular and inspiring show. How far have we fallen?
Next time use better stock art than a morbidly obese woman in a medical clinic (and for love of God not Lizzo).
Sure there are heavyweight boxers, rugby players, powerlifters, etc. I have met several heavyset yet athletic men and women over the years. They move differently and have more confidence in their posture and body language. They hold it better. They are “fit” but just genetically predisposed to be more heavyset.
But no way the obese woman in that stock art example above falls into that category. And unfortunately in our “modern” delusional culture a lot of heavy people particularly overweight women are being told “feel good” lies that vs. the ugly truth that they need to be more active and diet better. And the ugly truth not only Can make them look better but it can literally save their lives.
At least guys pull less punches with each other this one. Women think it’s “cruel” and sometimes it can come off that way. But men respect tough love because we are more concerned about living in reality.
If somebody works out or if somebody eats healthy diet or has good genes or are young then yes they can be fat but fit. I've met people who by medical scales should be considered obese but visually they look very slim and fit cause their weight is in their bones and not their fat. I've also met girls that doctors say are underweight that by visual presentation they look perfectly healthy, and are not too small. I will give you an example, I lost a certain number of pounds during a keto diet and I looked like I lost 4-5 times more weight than I actually did because of changes in my body and shape. The scale says my weight loss was small but my waist was reduced by 8 inches during this time. I also know a friend who went on a long fast with only water as her food and she only lost 5 pounds but went down 12 dress sizes.
Even a doctor can't give you a clean bill of health if you are obese.
Sure, they can do lab and urine studies, check your blood pressure, check your pulse oxygen levels, take your temperature and all that may fall in the normal range.
The problem is; the doctors only order the standard CBC (complete blood count) blood test, but no specialized tests that obese get causing health conditions that people that aren't obese usually don't get.
So, the patient walks away thinking being obese is ok. But they cannot say emphatically that they are "healthy".
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A person can be very fit, and yet weigh a lot since muscle tissue is more compact than adipose (fatty) tissue. Excess adipose tissue does not help the body since it just hangs there. A nominal covering of adipose tissue is good, as it acts as insulation for the body, and a back-up reserve of calories for the body. Excessive amounts are literally a drag on the body. "FAT but FIT" is a misnomer, which unfortunately, has sunk into common use.
There are unique individuals who achieved that. But in general it's not possible.
It kind of depends on what they eat and stuff. I remember on one episode of "Supersize VS Superskinny" the bigger woman ate very healthy, she was just eating too much of it. I think on whether they exercise, or workout is also dependent on that too. People who know they are unhealthy and work towards being healthier and fit, even if it's just baby steps, can definitely be in some way. But fully fit? No. It takes lots of time & effort to get to be fit & healthy. For some it even takes years because it's hard to find the right diet that works for them & their body.
I said NO, coach and I will stick by that answer for a few reasons. I have been running, playing basketball, touch football, weight lifting and now 'HARD YOGA' ever since I was 15-16 years old, and have seen the whole gamete of 'so called' fitness. From my experience, with my own training, and body fat measurements either by calipers or being weighed in water, when I was below 10% body fat, I was in the best condition of my life. I have several men in my Yoga class that are probably 30-50% body fat, and sporting pot bellies, and they probably consider themselves fit, BUT I see them sweating profusely, stopping during a set of work, and being completely exhausted at the end of the hour. The people that are lean... mostly the women, are in FAR better shape simply by the way they can perform, and the work is demanding.
so... no... I will say flat out no, there is no such thing as FIT BUT FAT.
Some peoples bodies store fat, even when they eat fewer calories than skinny people. I call it storing up resources for when the world goes to crap.
This answer could be yes, but it depends on their blood work from year to year. If it is in decline then the answer would be no they are not fit. Also their VO2 max score is a good way to judge. Basically if your body doesn't process O2 well you are probably in a state of declining health.
Keep in mind that what we view as fit is only a guideline. The obesity standards were developed as a if you cross this line you increase the possibility that you are shortening your life, but fit people have heart attacks too.
Ethnicitily, you can inherit a biological predisposition to a greater Body Mass Index (BMI) than Western Culture's 'optimum'.
Polynesian, Inuit and Eastern European descendants tend to store more 'fat' especially in their more senior years... its an inherited vestigial lean-times 'survival' adaptation.
people can be heavy and still be healthy. The BMI is not an accurate way to measure ideal body weight. However obesity has consequences. Fat is not an inert substance it produces substances that are detrimental to your health. Excess weight is also a cause of diabetes, high blood pressure and circulatory problems.
You can be overweight and be overall healthy if you also lead a healthy lifestyle.
it is never that simple...
I used to be FIT and unhealthy... now I am fit and way healthier
and both of these are an spectrum as well, there's ranges to it... it's not just a black and white situation
Oliver Hardy was a classic example. Stan Laurel use to write all the scripts, and any chance he got. Oli was out on the golf course.. A full size course is about 5 or so miles.
I saw that in a documentary about them a while back..
Def. Sumo wrestlers are a prime example here in Japan:
All of them are really badass even if not all so healthy, but most are healthier than most people think:
Someone who trains as hard as sumo wrestler 8+ hours a day is probably healthier in many respects than even us slim people.
No. I don’t understand the sentiment that being overweight is healthy, it isn’t. You have increased risk of so many diseases and have a shortened life expectancy
Yes. Going in a gym and saw people who complain about their "problem areas" but looks fit in other areas. But then, as long as you're healthy in your BMI result everything's good. Muscle mass can also add weight not just fat..
No. You can be fat and have nothing wrong with you (like no diabetes, no high blood pressure) like me, but you aren't necessarily healthy lol
Maybe Muscle Like Like a Wrestler but Takes A lot of Training for this Gaining. xxoo
It depends on how fat, but yes. I've met a few fat people who were extremely fit.
The answer is an obvious NO.
People try to kid themselves , highly unhealthy , the most important element of health and function is weight and BMI , absolutely vital to be the correct weight.
You can choose to be willfully ignorant. That’s no one else’s issue but your own.
@molonski2 according to BMI, this man is obese 🤣
BMI , does not work in that situation , he is a body builder , but he is also playing with fire , and will have heart issues certainly.
For the likes of 90 % of the US population it will work just fine , BMI is just one gauge.
Ludicrous extreme examples don't help the Obese with their dangerous lifestyles , so your examples help noone.
@molonski2 it does not work for 90 percent of the population. That’s just flat out wrong. BMI is very faulty. Many factors go into what a person’s weight should look like. It’s not just about height
Lol, no. The word fit implies that you're not fat or out of shape/unhealthy.
That would imply the word FITNESS
Not exactly but I've seen morbidly obese people inexplicably have normal blood sugar, strong hearts, and 120/80 BP's.
No I do not believe 😂
I gained 5 pounds and I feel disgusting. I don’t get how others can be so fat and how they would think they are fit.
If you're obese by definition you are not healthy
No, the "fat fit" movement is just a lie. There is no way one can be obese and fit at the same time.
Ofc yes. People can also be skinny and not fit
Fit into what?
My grade 10 English teacher was pretty big and he drove a 1987 Pontiac Firefly. Of course that isn’t much compared to Rosie Greer’s appearance on CHiPs.
Hell no. Anyone who says they can be is either one of those delusional fatties or just plain uneducated.
That describes Sumo wrestlers. They are fat, but fit. On top of that they have healthy fat which is a real thing. Because of their diet and the way they train, most of their fat is accumulated directly under the skin.
Depending on "how fat" you are, your blood numbers can be ok, at least for a time, but your musculature and other systems will catch up to you if you're carrying too much weight.
Depends what you classify as fit and fat. Charles Barkley was fat most of his career. He was still more fit than most people.
I'd let you doctor make that determination.
if your fat like eddie hall or a sumo wrestler yea
if your fat like tess holliday no
Yes, just the same how a skinny person can be a lazy slob.
A lot of NFLers and pro wrestlers are "fat but fit," though a good many STILL die early.
Among the general public,"fat but fit" occurs, but is far from common.
Is it possible? Yes.
is it probably? No.
There may be some athletes like NFL lineman in that category, but most obese people are not fit
In general there's nothing stopping an overweight person from improving their fitness without losing weight. Obviously exercise becomes more difficult the heavier you are so it may not be the case for obese to extremely obese people.
Yes but only if they regularly exercise. There are no fat couch potatoes who also happen to be fit.
I know several people who are heavy but in perfect health. I think you can be healthy but overweight, just not obese
Kinda, you can have a bit of body fat, more than what visually appears fit and still be super fit.
Obviously have you seen a NFL D-line or O-line they all fat
No. You can be big and fit as in a wide waist but fat, no you can't
Just take a look at an NFL offensive line. Right there lies your answer.
Maybe not FAT fat, but heavier healthy, yes
Lol. Ha ha ha ha. Nope. Ever notice people that have pronouns in their bio are obese?
No. Fat is the opposite of fit. They are mutually exclusive.
That’s not true. It’s not that black-and-white.
Here’s an athlete who to the traditional eye appears to be fat, but I can assure you he is far from being unfit
@Kingofkings1992 I am not assured
Well i am fat and fit … even my job requires walking around all shift i always hit 10-12k by the end of the shift.
That’s BS! People are looking for excuses for their unhealthyness!
That fat ass on the right sure as hell ain't fit.
Since fat is a broad & ambiguous word, yes.
in my opinion you can't be fat & fit.
The heavyweight martial artists.
Heck no
Possibly.
Of course not
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