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Should men also get promise rings or engagement rings? Or should we just do away with engagement rings all together? (Page 2)
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1. There is no sanctity to the ring as divorce is easy, and removing ring doesn't mean bad omen to the opposite gender
2. Even if you give ring to the man, he dont care, he wants your womb.
Solution:
Standardise the ring and sanctify it, or else jealousy will breed.
But, but, but it will not happen as there is no sanctity in western society
Point 2. correction, I am not implying that men dont care about you, what I am saying is that his materialistic value for you lies elsewhere...
Don't see the point tbh. As a 'rational' male; what does the idea of giving one vow, before you give another later?
Promise to be faithful, fruitful and available maybe. All of these notions are, generally speaking, based on religious ceremonies. These turn me off, as religion is quite close to hypocrisy sometimes, imho.
The short answer is: no !
the whole point is for women to show off and to make other women jealous. when really we don't give a fuck. "oh look at me everyone, i'm engaged. LOOK AT MY RING. look at it!" -shoves ring in your face, shows ring in ALL pictures- it's all nonsense.
Right!
I stopped wearing my wedding ring because it was a woman magnet. they just have to flirt with a married man. my Twin brother noticed it first. we went out and i gave him my ring so he could pick up chicks lol.
I don't get the women that do that.
Why would you want someone else's husband instead of your own🤦🏼♀️🤷🏼♀️
there was a joke by chris rock. Guys see their friends with a good woman and say "i want a girl just like her" Girls see their friend with a good man and they say "I want HIM" it appears to have some merit.
engagement ring is to let others know you are taken and off the market. It's also to be a reminder that you have taken oath before God and your spouse that you are now in committed union together for life. I have one and so does my husband.
I think this is more a problem with gold diggers than the rings, I've never met a guy keen to have a sparkly ring and I'm sure most girls aren't too concerned on how much it is, it's just a cute thing to get excited about getting married
Only if the SO spends the same mount that a guy is expected to spend on an engagement ring which today is around the equivalent of three months salary.
That's what I'm saying.. These women that think men have to spend so much to prove their love, should either put up or shut up.. I wish now I wouldn't have deleted the thread from the 31 year old saying a man had to buy her extravagant things to prove he's invested in her. What though does she do to prove she's equally invested in him🤷🏼♀️ But once she started trying to throw insults at my deceased husband, that was crossing the line.. Insult me all you want, that shit is just funny to me, but just because he's no longer here, I won't tolerate someone disrespecting a good man like my husband was, anyways but especially not a gold digger beotch 🤣
I agree, there was an opinion from earlier this week where a girl is complaining that her boyfriend bought a plain engagement ring and what should she do about it, I told her that it was only a symbol of a promise and does not need to be of any value:
My boyfriend got me a really plain engagement ring. Is it something I should bring up to him? ↗
Yeah that was one post that sparked this Mytake, as well as others I've seen on here
Its funny how there has been a surge of takes like that this week, I'm starting to wonder if I missed something significant?
Yeah, I saw a comment on that post from a mod that that's a troll account and same troll making multiple posts like that
Yet there's still women that really are like that
I share your sentiments, bbb. I love the messages in the memes you included.
I commented in more detail on your follow up question on this topic.
Lets be honest in most of the west the concept of marriage no longer exist. We have costly public statements/permission slips "of love". Costly Legal documents that server little desirable propose the non- bound couple nor any family they may or may not have.
My ring was almost 100 dollars and I wear it sometimes but most times not. Living off grid it's just not practical. It gets stuck in the chainsaw and the mud and the chicken and...
Absolutely , I'd buy myself one in any case if I ever got engaged
Not at all biased by being in the jewellery business
Lolol sure you're not lolol
But she should buy you the engagement ring
I don't trust other people to buy me jewellery without my full approval of the piece first
But see could go engagement ring shopping together, lol
I prefer the custom route platinum,
G/VS, princess or asscher cut, 0.5-1.5 ct
q: who do you think pushes that idea?
a: the people that sell the stuff.
don't be tools, guys.
My point is why aren't wedding bands enough? Do women really NEED an engagement ring? Or one that cost thousands of dollars, whether they can afford it or not?
a huge majority look at it as a show - a pissing contest, if you will.
"see how HUGE my rock is?" ("it's BIGGER than yours...")
the merchandising (supply) side takes every opportunity to push the so-called "rule" about cost of ring and the man's income. it also happens to (conveniently) correspond to the materialistic side of the majority mentioned above.
Well yeah, I know all that.. why saying if women expect that from their men, they should also put up or just shut up... Although the post that sparked this take was most likely fake by a troll, as there's yet another similar post just posted today by presumedly the same 25-29 pink Anon, doesn't mean there isn't women that really do get that way.
And men shouldn't feel pressured into buying expensive rings as proof of their love
agree - guys SHOULDN'T be pressured into it. unfortunately, most guys will "go along" with "the rules" when it comes to issues surrounding engagement and matrimony, as it's something of which relatively few are concerned until it's time for engagement. on the other hand, that huge majority of girls begin obsessively planning their weddings at an early age, gathering lists of "rules" regarding ring size, wedding size, numbers of children and their names, blah blah blah. many guys get duped into the idea that it HAS to be a diamond and HAS to come with a price tag equivalent to 3x his monthly salary, etc. a simple wedding band SHOULD be enough. if it isn't, the guy needs to really think if he wishes to be hitched up to a materialistic wench whose system of values is based upon what others think they should be.
I'm a female and I agree... Men should know all women aren't like that
unfortunately, you're in the minority.
See, that's the problem.. I don't think I am.. People have to stop assuming by gender and go by personal interaction/experience...
Whether it's when men judge all women by the actions of some of if it's women doing it to men...
There's good and bad in both genders, why take the time to get to know a person before deciding what kind of person they are.. I don't want to be judged/labeled by what some other female does, nor do I believe you would want to be by the actions of other men instead of by your own actions
unfortunately, based upon my experience, you are.
that's not a bad thing for you personally and definitely not intended as a slam, by the way.
I know, it wasn't but it's still not fair to other women that also aren't that way to be thought of that way because of the actions of others instead of their own... Real gold diggers deserve whatever negative opinion people have of them, women falsely labeled as gold diggers just because they're women do not is all I'm saying...
That would be like me saying the majority of men are rapists, wife beaters, can't be faithful or dead beat dads just because there's some men out there that would fall into one of those categories.. I mean, would you want women to label you as that just because you're a man and some other man was that way, but you're not?
i was discussing materialistic and obsessive.
believe your "offering" on the male side is a bit extreme.
It's extreme to falsely label anyone based off others wouldn't you say, see I would..
The money you spend on a ring could go a long way to a deposit on a home. What's more important - a diamond on your finger or a home?
I've always said the same thing... Same for all the money people spend on weddings that could be invested into the home or your life together
I agree. If the families only have X amount of dollars, say $20 or $30K, that's a hefty down payment on a home. The party can wait.
Right!
The whole thing is a marketing campaign by the DeBeers diamond cartel. It's started in the early 20th century. Don't do it.
The way some people treat rings, seems like a Western bride price to me.
It's a nice thing to do. But love is not measured in material value
If you need jewelry to signal loyalty you dont have loyalty. I dont wear a ring because it interferes in camera work. And my wife knows I wouldn't cheat. So much so she dares me to hit on chicks, lol….
In my culture, the engagement ring usually acts as a wedding ring as well. Men also get it.
I want a pretty diamond ring. All my cousins got one. Two of them were even gifted new rings on the Valentine's day. If my future husband won't be able to afford (not really going to happen as I won't marry someone poorer than me), then I'll pay for it without letting anyone know.
I am saving myself for marriage and I think I deserve a big diamond ring.
i don't get it. what's the point of a "promise ring"? i thought the engagement ring is about that promise to get married.
Little point in doing away with the rings when we’re already doing away with the institution. Marriages in the west are at the lowest in recorded history, and falling. The rings are a complete nonissue at this point.