i know its okay to be independent as a person & it doesn’t stem from what gender you are. i can't help but want to provide for my (future) husband in every single aspect & don’t see anything wrong with making sure they have a nice home to come to everyday. meanwhile still maintaining financial stability on my own. times change & im at times afraid to say this.
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This is actually what most "relationship men" want - but not all men are "relationship men." And there's also the problem that most men take until sometime in their mid 20s to get to a place financially where they could support a wife and then kids. You don't need to marry a 40 year old or anything, but few guys are ready before 24 or 25 - mostly because if they marry any earlier, they will probably have to live a pretty low (poor) lifestyle for a few years, and modern women are rarely willing to make that kind of sacrifice, and men know it.
Let me talk a little more about relationship men. These are men who ALREADY want to be in a serious relationship and prioritize that. You CANNOT change a "casual sex guy" into a relationship man, and if you don't believe me, you will learn the hard and painful way. You cannot talk a man into, manipulate, shame, or guilt a man into wanting a relationship.
And while you can find casual sex guys at every SMV (social market value), you must realize that nearly all of the top 10% men - the ones nearly all women consider to be the most attractive - are not and will never be relationship men. If a guy is an 8, 9, or 10, he might well bang you, but he's not looking to wife you (or anyone else) up. He'll have so many women available to him that he can always have a woman when he wants, or even several at once, and already enjoys nearly all the benefits he would get in a committed relationship, with few of the responsibilities or limitations.
One of the reasons why many men aren't dating today is because they are relationship men and are looking for women like you - wife and mother material - and can't find women like that anymore. And they have no intention of trying to start a family with a career-focused "boss babe" because that's a recipe for disaster.
Vet potential boyfriends based on their morals, values, and life goals, and keep your expectations realistic - no male models or Instagram lifestyle - and you will do just fine.30 Reply
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I think that it better than being feminist who give up on motherhood for sake of career. :)
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i respect your opinion & thank you for sharing ⭐️
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No it´s not looked down. It´s just overwhelming for many because depending on the economical situation where he comes from it means that he has to make all the money and that´s something many young dread. But it´s not looked down by guys if a woman says she wants to be a stay at home wife.
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that can be stressful & id never want to leave him on his own to earn a living for us, id find a way remotely to earn & also help around the house, easier said than done but not impossible
Absolutely nothing wrong with it and could definitely work for the right people. Unfortunately it undermines the idea of the whole feminist movement and instead they tend to force their one-size-fits-all model of female empowerment on everyone. At this point, choosing to be a housewife could be an act of female empowerment, haha.
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it’s a negative thing to generalize that all rights of a woman are stripped if they become housewives, you can still find ways especially nowadays to earn enough on your own while maintaining a beautiful home lifestyle for everyone, not saying itll be easy but it’s possible, I agree it can definitely empower instead of belittling women. it’s a joy to do it.
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I think that there is a lot of power in owning your household and taking good care of it. Especially taking care of your husband and his needs can be something that you can take a lot of pride in, and should not necessarily be looked down upon, as long as you do it with intent and passion.
Anonymous(45 Plus)+1 yNo, there’s nothing wrong w that. As a matter of fact a lot of men would like someone like that but can’t say that openly because we’re labeled as misogynistic. We’re trying to enslave women. The whole patriarchy argument comes up, etc. Od say most men don’t like strong, independent women because those types of women usually come w attitudes. They’re usually more masculine, argumentative, etc. The whole I don’t need a man attitude. That’s not what men want.
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it’s strange, if men were accustomed to this particular lifestyle for generations upon generations, shouldn’t they know it’s not going to just “go away” and not exist anymore just because it upsets them? it may not be what every woman desires but I do, it’s not misogynistic to take care of your man & your family☺️😊
Opinion Owner+1 yWell I hope you meet someone who will make a good husband.
m +1 yIt’s not looked down on or should not, it’s a personal choice of the person. A lot comes down to the dynamics a couple have in a relationship, for some relationships then it works all the time, for others it’s only some of the time or not at all.
I guess finding a guy that ticks the boxes you require is the hard bit.unless you already have a guy sorted?
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+1 ySome people will be fine. Feminists fixing to harass and degrade you even to the point of doxxing so whatever you do don't share it publicly or post things about it
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I will say you should have left it open for women there are a few femis that would show their true colors
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i understand the concern, i am not against feminism, in which equality among everyone should be respected but i am not afraid to speak about what i desire & there’s nothing wrong with wanting to be there for my husband, or if i have kids, i am not degrading anyone who chooses not to go down the same road but it sometimes frightens me because i don’t know how many women my age still feel that way
+1 yMen aren't looking down on this except for the loser soyboys. It's lonely, bitter, feminist women who will shame you for being a housewife, not real men. If people in your life have a problem with you wanting to be a wife then you need to remove them from your life immediately.
10 ReplyA little bit. It is the female equivalent of a young man who just wants to live in a bunker playing video games for the rest of his life starting at age 20. The whole idea similarly relies heavily on someone else paying for it but that doesn't register because he similarly thinks it's valuable to be "independent" in such a way. Except he/she is confusing independent with isolated, where being isolated actually requires a massive amount of dependence.
00 Replygirl the only 2 things that might be keeping you from being the ideal girl is:
-body count (not know yours so can't comment)
-not allowing other girls into bed (but not every guy gives the same value to 3 somes or more somes)
10 ReplyDepends on which side of the political spectrum your looking, if your gonna ask feminists they will look down upon you as a slave. If you ask a right wing man he will be intrigured and may pursue dating you.
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+1 yI admire women who want that, and also who want a career working. For me, I just never see myself being a stay at home husband/boyfriend. I love my career too much
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i can see the dynamic working for you if you are not willing to be a home husband, you shouldn’t have to give that up, instead find someone who will support your career & everything else about you🤍
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Anonymous(45 Plus)+1 yOnly if her drive is so great that she chooses a 💩ty partner. Otherwise no. I have no problem with women who want to be independent and career oriented. But mothers raise and nurture the next generation. So that's an incredibly important job. Anyone who looks down on a woman who puts her heart and soul into being a mom is a fool.
10 ReplyI don't know it depends if she can like make an earning too or take care of the house if she’s staying home. I don't know. What do u think
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it can depend on the job or career she chose to pursue, some offer remote positions, & the career im striving for is known for being remote while still being able to afford necessities
+1 yMost younger guys wouldn't want to or be able to support a housewife, so how old are you willing to look for a husband?
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Anonymous(25-29)+1 yI'm not financially taking care of a woman until she gives me a kid
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that’s a fair perspective
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+1 ynot looked down upon that. even age 20 seems fine.
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+1 yNope, thats fine, plenty of guys want that. The mother part of that in women is offputting to me personally, but only because I don't want any kids, not because it's bad.
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+1 yWell, I think she SHOULD wait `til she's in her 20's.
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+1 yI dont think so :)
maybe more so looked down by other women?
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sadly
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I don't know about looked down upon, but the average age of first marriage in Canada is 29 for brides, so we lads likely think it unusual if a lass wants to be a very young (25 and younger) wife/mother today as opposed to my 50's,60's and early 70's boyhood, to say nothing of my parents' youth in the 20's and 30's.
Its never been looked down upon and never will be.
Its what nature intended
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Anonymous(30-35)+1 yNot at all, it actually makes you a high value woman.
20 ReplyI think its a good thing if you are caring and you will be a good mother at young age:)
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u +1 yit doesn't matter to me
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+1 yIt isn't. It is desirable to many of us.
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+1 yNothing wrong with that at all
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+1 yNo, this is ideal.
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+1 yI agree with you 💯
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thank you sir! ⭐️
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🙂🤓 no problems
No, live the life you want
10 ReplyI think that is fine
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+1 yNope
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