My boyfriend refuses to talk about marriage but we are both in our late 30s and I really want a serious relationship and marriage. Should I initiate such conversations?
Don't mess about when it comes to long term commitment. What I'd say is, when your in your 20's nerves about marriage and backing off commitment is understandable (your young and you both aren't sure what you actually want, even if your sure you want to be together). However, 25+ a persons position on marriage should be crystalising. Your first port of call is establishing what he sees in his future, independent of whether its with you or not. No guy should be shy about stating how they imagine their future, wanting kids or not? settling down or being an ongoing free spirit with no ties. That's the primary conversation, find out how they see their future, ask them what they dreamed of as a child before you two met, thats a good way to start. Get him comfortable talking about what he's dreamed of for his future, and see how that maps onto what your feeling you want. If he's a good partner he should quickly recipricate asking what your dreams where, if he's a GREAT partner he should pretty much, after learning your dreams and establishing you still have them, start to try to make them come true.
Now, don't push marriage as a conversation in a 'coercing' way. Meaning a common mistake partners make is when they get nervous or worried they push their partners on the 'marriage' question. This is a very bad way to go about it because it makes the person feel presured and when pressured a natrual human reaction is to run away. We dont want to be coerced into our future, or forced down any particular line we want to find our own expression. So, yes, do that, discuss your dreams, find out if they changed, work out how your both seeing the immediate future and any timelines in as fun and zero pressure way as possible.
Then step back, from that topic, assess if you feel he's on the same pages as you, if you feel there's some mismatch, carefully work out what you feel about it, by yourself then discuss how you would feel if your dream isn't happening by whatever timeline your setting yourself. If the converstion is positive, all good give it time, but if you leave it feeling unsupported and not understood, the next conversation should be about your 'what if that doesn't happen' approach (meaning gently pointing out what happens if he can't commit and what you need to do, and be ready for that to lead to either a proposal or a break up).
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+1 yyes men aren't mind readers, you need to state your needs and likely work through the obstacles.
what does he want... and why are the questions as well.
it may be easier to find someone that wants the same thing... if he differs... than try to find the damage/mis programming and repair him.
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Anonymous(30-35)+1 yI don’t know how long you have been together, but I’m always in favor of making intentions known early. It saves me from wasting time with someone who doesn’t want the same things in life that I do.
If marriage is the goal of dating for you, let it be known that that is what you are looking for. If marriage isn’t what he is looking for, I would hope that he would make it known to you.00 Reply
+1 yHe just wants a live-in girlfriend, unlimited sex and cooking services and waste your time. Go ditch him if he's not willing to talk about those topics with you. If anything tell you're not after his money and will sign a prenup without any hesitation if that's the only reason he's so adamant about it. Afterwards ask him if besides that, is there any other reason?
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Navigating these waters can feel a bit like you're trying to read a map in the dark, right? When your boyfriend zips his lips tight every time the "M" word or anything future-related pops up, it's completely natural to feel a swirl of emotions. You're essentially trying to figure out if you both are dreaming of the same kind of future or if you're silently hoping for different endings.
Honestly, it's perfectly fine to bring up these conversations. Think of it less like you're trying to corner him into a commitment and more like you're both painting a picture of what could be. It's not about the pressure but about understanding and sharing what each of you wants and dreams about.
Ease into it, maybe start with something light and fun that's future-related but not as heavy as marriage. It's a subtle way to signal that talking about the future doesn't have to be a big deal or scary.
It's not just because society says so or because you're supposed to at this stage in your relationship. It's because you genuinely want to know if you both see yourselves sharing a path down the line. Be sure to listen to him as well; his perspective is key, and understanding his hesitations or dreams is part of navigating this together.
If he's still putting up walls, there's probably more going on under the surface. It could be anything from past baggage to not feeling ready, and that's okay. But understanding why can help both of you address it together and find a way to communicate more openly.
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u +1 yApparently, he does not want marriage. Do you really want a husband who doesn't want a wife?
It's time to find a better boyfriend.10 Reply
+1 yNot sure how long you been together but hopefully it wasn't too long because this is unacceptable. Move on if you're not aligned.
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How long have you been a couple?
+1 yYou shouldn't stick to a person or relationship if they do not have the same expectations as you. The fact that he refuses to address certain things tells me he's a selfish person. Any women especially women in their 30s should never entertain those type of people. Don't ever put your plans on hold because someone can't make up their mind.
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+1 yMost guys are not going to risk a marriage while women are incentivized to divorce. If you want a marriage you either need to have a form drawn up stating that you will get absolutely nothing if a divorce happens for any reason or you need to get married and not file the paperwork with the state/government.
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+1 yNot enough context, how long have you been together? If it is more than a year, I hate to give you the bad news, but he is not going to marry you. And if he is it is not going to be good marriage, maybe he can be pressured into it. Less than 6 months. I wouldn't worry at all, but over 6 months I would start to worry, more than a year. I would definitely worry.
00 Reply411 opinions shared on Marriage & Weddings topic. If he refuses clearly u will have to bring it up if its somthing he still won't talk about u will have to accept their is most likely a reason he won't have those conversations with u and its probably that u won't like the answers he has about them
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+1 yYou failed to mention how long you have been together. To me if you have been dating or in a relationship for less than 2 years, I feel it’s too early to talk about marriage regardless of age.
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+1 yMight be too early but You can’t force it, but just leave it at that or you can say, “I know thinking or hearing about it makes you feel uneasy, but I would like for us to have a chance to discuss the direction of where we are heading.”
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+1 yIf that's your goal it sounds like you are wasting your time. If you have already tried for a reasonable period of time and he has not shown any interest, you probably need to move on if you want more out of a relationship.
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+1 yWithout knowing your exact situation, all I can do is give general advice. If a guy is already getting all of the benefits of marriage without the official and legal commitment, he is not likely to commit.
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+1 yYou have to understand some people just aren't cut out for marriage. He's avoiding talking about it for some reason or another. Just come out and ask him, "Do you ever want to get married with me or with somebody else? "See what he tells you.
00 ReplyTo be honest, he's not buying what you're offering and would rather keep the "lease" instead.
00 Reply714 opinions shared on Marriage & Weddings topic. Of course you should. If you can't talk to him about important topics, it's not much of a partnership.
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Anonymous(30-35)+1 yYes but if he is refusing to talk about it, be prepared for him to shut it down. If he is not willing to talk about it then it may be time to move on from your relationship with him.
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+1 ydon't bother, you know he doesn't want that.
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+1 yYes. If we refuses to even consider the prospect of long term commitment that's a red flag. To lack any kind of emotional maturity to have such conversations at your age is strange
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Anonymous(30-35)+1 yThis is a tough one because I understand your desire as a woman to get married and settle down, but I also understand him, as a man in this day and age, not wanting anything to do with marriage.
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And the "forever live-in girlfriend" zone several men keep more women at is really an extended friends with benefits/casual dating arrangement (under the disguise of "boyfriend and girlfriend") by then. That's not serious anymore.
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Basically, no commitment... just casual dating without telling the woman you want casual dating, but calling her your girlfriend with either false promises or avoiding the topic on marriage.
Opinion Owner+1 y@Vesuvius87 Yeah, I agree. It's not fair of him to do that to you without making his intentions clear. But I do understand why he might not want to take on the risks of marriage for men now, too.
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It's obvious fewer women are naturally into casual sex and will be happy being just a girlfriend forever if he were to ask her but yes it's not fair. I think there has to be a way for both genders to benefit from both worlds, from both commitment (our works) and intimacy (his world). That would be ideal.
When only one gender benefits but the other doesn't, it's selfish indeed since it's all about yourself but not the other person.
Opinion Owner+1 y@Vesuvius87 I agree that would be ideal. But the underlying problem will have to be addressed before men will be interested in marriage again. What you are talking about here is a sysmptom of that problem, not the problem itself.
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At the same time, I'm noticing more women are also catching up with the living together thing and some are worried of having their fertile years drained. Just like men talk with each other, women are also advicing other women against living together and how it's a trap, how he'll never propose, etc.
So in the end both come out hurt since both are suppose to be evenly happy and it's not. No one wins. - +1 y
If I'm not mistaken (I'm not a lawyer so I don't know how forms work), I think there is already a prenuptial agreement.
Opinion Owner+1 y@Vesuvius87 Agreed, no one wins, and it's a bad situation for both sexes. But this is a problem women have created for themselves (and for men), and they are the ones who will need to take the initiative to fix it. Men are not going to just collectively decide they should ignore all the signs and get married anyway in spite of the increased risks and diminished rewards marriage represents for men today. It doesn't work that way.
Opinion Owner+1 y@Vesuvius87 Yes, there are prenuptial agreements, but they do not hold up in court, and they do not prevent the things that are the biggest concerns men have about mariage today.
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I would like to think if these two changes applies one day, perhaps it would make a difference:
1) No monetary incentives after a divorce, none. They don't have that in other countries. If she's really getting abused, they already have laws and department for domestic violence victims.
2) If proven it's not his bio child, she gets charged, jail time and fined for causing financial and emotional distress. It's still scamming someone, it's still a fraud (paternity fraud) and should be treated as such.
Perhaps the only valid point is child support if it's really his child. It's his child after all. The kid still needs both parents to support him/her.
Opinion Owner+1 y@Vesuvius87 What country are you in?
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I'm in Peru. They still got child support and alimony too. The feminism cancer has spread here too and less people are getting married. The men are taking too long here too. I think in Japan there have no monetary incentive following a divorce.
+1 yNo, you should find another man. You're already 38 and he's not interested in even having a discussion, so show him the door.
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+1 yYou two obviously want different things. Maybe he doesn’t want to get married.
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+1 ymarriage, by definition, is technically not necessary
religion, and the state tells us it is, but, it really isn't00 Reply
Anonymous(30-35)+1 ythat technically means he refuses to marry you. so don't bother.
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+1 ywell not being married is common these days. if you really really really want to marry him you should really really really love him?
00 Reply506 opinions shared on Marriage & Weddings topic. No need to talk about it, just move on
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+1 yhonestly a red flag there.
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Anonymous(36-45)+1 yDump his time-wasting ass.
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+1 yyes, if it's important to you!
00 Reply576 opinions shared on Marriage & Weddings topic. That should be discussed prior to getting serious
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+1 yMen are waking up
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+1 yDump him.
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