Should men be forced to pay child support? (Page 2)
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Well if you can play your sperm card during abortion, it's only fair you'd have to pay.
What are you trying to say? I don't understand.
In other words, if a man wants the woman to keep child, it's half his responsibility too.
Sure, but if he doesn't want to keep the child then he shouldn't have to pay child support.
I can't speak for all women here but yes, that'd be fair. I'd totally abort then.
Just for the sale of debate, what if the women wants to keep the child? It's half his. He's gotta pay.
If the woman wants to keep the child but the man doesn't, then the man shouldn't have to pay child support.
Isn't the child half his?
If he doesn't want to pay, would it be fair if he's not given custody or even visits?
If he doesn't want to pay then he shouldn't get custody or visits.
Agreed.
Thank you for this mini discussion. What you're saying is absolutely fair. Good talk.
It's crazy to me how men still think that the rights of a female body equate to the rights of a man's money. It blows my mind.
There shouldn't be a right given to anyone of someone else's money, regardless of their history together.
So you don't think there should be any consequences for getting a woman pregnant? Sounds like a very convenient deal for you 👌
If the man wants to be part of his child's life, then he should pay child support. If the man chooses to forfeit his right to his child, then he shouldn't have to pay. Given that a woman has the right to having an abortion, the man deserves the right to opt out of child support as well.
Let me spell it out for you: if there were ZERO consequences to getting a girl pregnant, men wouldn't bother pulling out or using condoms. Men could literally impregnate a woman and run. Do you not see the problem with this scenario?
The same way, a woman can make a man pay child support by managing to make a small hole in the condom, if she is the one providing condoms.
This is a kind of slavery that a lot of men live under. I have come across men who cannot afford to rent an apartment for themselves, but they still have to pay child support and alimony.
Lol slaves. Okay it sounds like you're upset about your friends having psycho girlfriends. That's completely different from the conversation you started. If you think women support bitches who leg-lock men, we don't
I am not speaking of my friends, I do not have male friends. Most of my friends are women.
I never said women in general support 'bitches who leg-lock men', I am simply speaking of unfair laws that can be used against men. Such laws need to be changed.
That's all.
Well there are the laws of nature which say "sperm will make a woman pregnant whether she likes it or not". The world's unfair.
There are contraceptives that work 99% of the time for both men and women, from what I have heard.
And 100% of woman that get pregnant have to deal with the consequences. Do you actually think not paying child support is equal to a woman getting an abortion? You think those experiences are at all alike?
Women have the option to have an abortion, if they are choosing to keep the baby, then it is their personal choice and the man shouldn't be held responsible for that.
My question is, do you think abortion is the same as not paying child support. Because you need to do more research if you think abortion is an easy out. It's usually physically and emotionally traumatizing
It's not a competition.
I wouldn't mind being there emotionally for the woman whom my sperm impregnated, but I don't have to do that and I shouldn't be held financially responsible if the woman decides to keep the child.
So you're saying men shouldn't have to face consequences for their sperm
Men shouldn't have to face consequences for a woman's decision to keep the child.
Sigh.. men should not put their money on a higher pedestal than human life. These laws were written because a majority of the population realizes this. The rights of a woman's body will NEVER be the same as a man's rights to his money. Ever.
It's not about what should be more important, human life or money. It is about being fair to men, giving them an out just like women have with an out with abortion.
As for the majority, more than 1 billion people on earth hit their head on the floor 5 times a day towards the direction of a black square box in Saudi Arabia, thinking that somehow by doing that they are in communication with whatever created the universe.
The majority can agree to the most ridiculous things, that is why I choose to think for myself.
Ya you obviously love yourself and your money a lot
I am not a financially stable individual.
Do me a favor. Research abortions. Find some stories about woman who have done it or couldn't bare to do it. Abortions aren't an out. They're a consequence.
That is a matter of perspective, I'd say. Someone else's perspective of things is no more or less relevant than my perspective on things.
You will never have an abortion. Your. Perspective. Doesn't. Matter. Do the research.
As long as the man can be legally enforced to pay, his perspective will matter.
If guys don't want to pay child support they should remember to put something on the end of it. Simples.
Lmao nobody’s “forced” to do anything 😭plenty of men didn’t wanna pay child support so they left their kids
Honestly I don't even know anymore my parents go back and forth
The laws go both ways so...