12 Things Women / Girls Won't Tell You

[natured]

Hi there Amigos

so I thought that I will give this Anonymous editor and to his fellow gentlemen something back (If you're interested). Maybe I will state the obvious with some points, and maybe something will even be eye opening for you who knows.

Try to read his article first :

12 Things Guys Won't Tell you - Anonymous

Yes, us Women also have our secrets and admirations, and most of us don't want to reveal it because most of the time we want YOU to reveal it, we just like being explored, it gives us Women shivers down our spines just by the fact that you're trying to reveal our deepest secrets and desires.

Please be adviced that not ALL WOMEN are the same, but i'm sure i'm speaking for most, don't tell me I didn't warn you. So don't come to me with " I'M NOT LIKE THAT" yadda yadda yadda talk.

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1. We don't like your messy hair WE LOVE your messy hair as well, it adds the urge for us to play with your hair and mess it up even more. In fact, lately, messy hair for guys is a trendy go-to look, and i'm loving it. And if you're bald, don't worry, i know many and i mean MANY women that go absolute nuts for baldies. And between me and you, some bald men are just YUMMIE.

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2. Sadly we do think about sex more than you imagine, I mean, some of us connect everything to nasty thoughts ... might be our urge or hormones of the moment but, SOMETIMES i'm telling you, everything is sexual to us. We're guilty as charged for dirty minds, most of us won't tell you though. Oh sometimes we also imagine all the things we could do to you while we're talking about Astronomy.... Sorry BUT YOU WON'T EVER FIND OUT

3. Having a Six pack is not everything to us, a lot of us like our men to be fit, but mostly we want to fit perfectly in your arms. We also don't mind some little soft spots here and there ... some of us might not be a huge fan of very skinny guys though, we naturally feel protected if the guy is bigger, it's a natural instinct (as I SAY, not all of us women feel this way though) ...

And trust me, most of us don't mind if you check our curves out, we might play dumb and acting like we HATE IT, but checking out is nothing tragic, at least for some, unless you don't STARE and transform it into cat calling and harrassing that is a major turn off...

4. We are delicate creatures, and yes most of us women get very emotional, most of the times we don't even have a valid reason, and we might tell you that everything is okay, but the truth is we want a lot of things, we want your ATTENTION, PIZZA AND HUGS !!!

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5. Deep within we don't mind Men being Men as in being into sports cars and so on, but sadly we want you guys more for ourselves, yes we're selfish little devils i'm sorry (not sorry) but, we'd appreciate if you sometimes skip a ball game so you can take us to a date. As selfish as this sounds, most of the time we don't mind you doing MEN THINGS, and most of us usually don't ask you to do differently, but secretly, we want you to ask us on a date here and there, and spend some time ALONE.

6. When you ask if everything is ok and we say " i'm fine" .... trust me, we're not fine, we will give you a nice dose of silent treatment until you BEG, it's a sad fact and i'm not proud of it, and trust me, we know that it's wrong yet we still do it. It's something natural, we can't get over it nor control it at that moment, we want to get chased, it adds this thrill that we urge to feel, and also we can't get enough of feeling special this way ... Sorry again

7. Most of us don't put makeup on FOR YOU MEN, trust me, because we ALL KNOW that you guys can't stand makeup, but we mostly do it for ourselves, and for a slight indirect rivalry that goes on between our girlfriends. We usually want to show our girlies our makeup talent, trust me, most of us girls don't do it for you, but for US.

8. When we say "do whatever you want" we don't mean it, trust me .... we don't... and if you come back with a "OK" then it will break our hearts into a trillion pieces ... don't trust A SINGLE WORD WE SAY in these cases, which gets me back to nr. 6 .... Again, I appologize for this behaviour, and trust me, it never gets better as we get older ...

9. We'd feel special if you introduce us to your friends and family, but be careful, once this happens we already HEAR THE WEDDING BELL AND ALREADY THOUGHT OF A NAME FOR OUR FIRST CHILD ( lol ), it's a huge step for us and we already get ready to settle... so before you introduce us to people that are important to you, make sure you have a clear idea on what you're getting yourself into.

10. If you hit on us, our first instict is usually to reject, it's a play hard to get technique _(at times) we use and it brings me back to the seeking attention point above, we just like to get chased... I know, some of you men will get furious about this fact, and a lot are mad because you want us women to do the first step in many things, but once we see you giving up we will also give up the very same second ... So, try harder or let it be, if you study us harder you will understand and get the signal that we actually like what you're doing. AGAIN, i'm sorry on behalf of all women, but don't you agree that we're amazing creatures?

11. WE ALSO NEED SPACE trust me when I say, sometimes we're afraid it comes out wrong so we try to hide this fact. But many times we also need some ME time, and we'd appreciate if you makes us feel comfortable to express these things. Maybe i'm speaking for myself, but being in a almost 7 year relationship taught me that ME time is very healthy, also because i'm not clingy by nature, being clingy is toxic Ladies,... trust me

12. "I'm not a jealous woman" > this is BS, in most cases it is. When we're alone we can say that and we actually convince ourselves... but once we face a situation our blood will start to boil.

Yes we are Women, yes we are Mysterious and enigmatic, even to our own kind, but aren't we all as human beings? I think we should appreciate the fact that in general, we're all different, we all have different perspectives, but as the same gender, we DO SHARE a lot of things and according to me, these things make us who we are.

I said this many times in different MyTakes, i hate generalizing, I don't want anyone to feel disappointed by my Ideas, even though i specified it in different lines emphasizing the words SOME / MOST and reminding you that i'm not talking for ALL. Because it's wrong in every aspect to put everyone in the same category no matter what the topic is.

I'd love to see what other women think as well, to make everything easier for the both of us why not?

Thank you for reading once again

Take care

[Anonymous]

You make some excellent points. I appreciate you putting this out there. However, some of these I do not agree with nor will any self-respecting man.

For example, when a woman says "I'm fine", yes I know she does not mean it, but I'm not going to fish for details all day when I have so many other things to deal with. She is an adult and that is an issue for her to work on, not for me to bend over backwards for. She is an adult and can use her words to say how she really feels. If anything, expecting a guy to just magically read your mind is disrespectful to yourself because you are expecting him to be the adult while you act like a child. That line of thought reeks of immaturity.

As for the "do whatever" scenario, I am an adult too and do not need your approval to do things I like. I will consider your feelings, but at the end of the day, I'm a whole ass adult and will do whatever. When women use this tactic, we see it as manipulation. Ladies, just because a man does not do what you want, when you want does not constitute disrespect.

Finally, if a woman rejects us, we have to move on. In this post #metoo era, men cannot take the risk of chasing a woman further. Once you reject us, that is it. We cannot risk our lives and careers just to misinterpret when a woman wants us but rejects us to see us try again. This goes back to being an adult. If you want us, accept when we ask you out. If you reject us, do not expect we will come back. The risk of "being pushy" is too great. This sucks as some guys do like a chase, but this is what modern "feminism" has created. You can blame society for this one.

[natured]

I totally agree with you, and YES I admit it is very childish to expect your partner to literally read your mind. Sadly many of us women seek attention this way, we have the urge to make sure that our relationship is still valid, some of us need reassurances, and instead of asking or talking directly about a certain issue, we put it to a test. Again, I did appologize on my MyTake about this behaviour, simply for the reason that WE KNOW THAT THIS IS DUMB. Remember admitting to your mistakes will make you strong, and you can face the world without any guilt and shame, so it's a good step, and us Women should admit more often to these little mind games and explain the reason behind it.
I totally agree with the chasing part, trust me, it actually makes sense and I appologize for missinterpreting that part.
Thank you so much for reading and I appreciate your thoughts.

[rounddablock]

You should add number #13. We CRAVE challenge and that’s what turns us on about assholes. We completely break all our previous “standards” when we find a guy who has that certain angle on us. We know it’s wrong but can’t stop jumping head first into the deep dark pit. We secretly hope in vain we can “change” the guy. If we succeed we actually get turned off and bored with him. But most of the time we don’t succeed and he predictably screws us over. We then play victim and look for shoulders to cry on (thank you nice guys... we love chumps to friendzone and take advantage of). We can never of course take responsibility for such stupid decisions. Some of us make one to mistakes and don’t do it ever again. Other of us continually do this drama seeking crap and we are the most likely to gaslight and espouse feminist virtue signally.

[FunkyMonkee]

"Nice guy" and "chump" = emotional tampon!

[rounddablock]

@FunkyMonkee young boys need to be better educated to avoid this crap. To be fair no all women are that stupid. But unacceptable percentage are.

I don’t have a problem with them falling for assholes. It’s not illegal to be stupid. But I do have a problem with them looking society to comfort them from their stupid ass decisions.

If more young boys were educated to watch out for this shit then more women would learn they and only they are accountable for their bad dating decisions. But too make guys are brainwashed into kissing their asses (including a younger me). This is only getting worse not better.

[FunkyMonkee]

Yes, they should!! Instead oof teacjing bullshit like CRT, THIS is the kind of stuff they SHOULD be taught!! Something they can USE in life!!!
I know it's not all women but, loads of them are like that!! I should know! I've had DOZENS of them cry on MY shoulder over the past 20-some years!! I don't mind helping or being someone they can talk to but, I don't like being bused because of it!!
The hard part is giving them GOOD, SOUND advice on what they should do and, they flat out IGNORE YOU and go RIGHT BACK to Mr. Asshole!!! If you're GONNA IGNORE my advice, go cry on your boyfriend's shoulder and leave me the fuck alone!!!
OR, if we just POINT IT OUT TO THEM!! Hey!! You fucked up!! You made a bad choice!! Now, live with it and LEARN from it!!
I don't know if it's brainwashing as much as it is being protective towards them and, for some low life guys, it's a case of, "Hey! If I help her get through this and let her cry on my shoulder, she might decided to fuck me!".

[rounddablock]

@FunkyMonkee most men instinctually want to protect women. It was one of the reasons the US Army didn’t want female soldiers on combat teams with men. They did psychological studies that proved that men react differently to seeing a women in pain vs another man. It breaks down teams. Men tend to act more empathetic. It’s another reason why women enjoy much more lenient criminal sentencing then men for the exact same crimes. Male judges felt “empathy” for them.

But since we live in a “equal” world now we got to treat women just as harshly as men are treated for their mistakes. Now of course you don’t see feminists marching for that kind of real equality. But still this bullshit has to stop.

Hindsight is 20/20 but no one warned me about this bullshit when I was younger. I wasn’t until I started reading doc love when I was 26 that I got a better view on this female psychology. I could of avoided a lot of shitty scenarios if I was taught that much younger.

[FunkyMonkee]

There's a lot of stuff we all could have avoided if we were taught about such things instead of usless shit like, Trigonometry, etc..

[rounddablock]

@FunkyMonkee trigonometry can help discipline the brain but that’s a different debate. But feminism has been present in public education for quite some time. Young boys are being brainwashed on how to “please” women.

[FunkyMonkee]

Knowing how to please them and doing anything they tell you to do (pussy whipping) are two different things. What they SHOULD include in sex ed classes is how to lick pussy, finger it, and other things to make her cum. How often does a woman expect us to automatically KNOW what to do to please them, but REFUSES to TELL US what it takes? Hell, I can teach a master class of pussy licking in a few seconds so, how long can it take to teach the rest of it?
I've seen in porno after porno how men tell a woman EXACTLY, PRECICELY what to do to get him off but, unless she's in a dom mistress role, I NEVER hear a woman tell a guy what to do to get her rocks off. They just think that ALL THEY HAVE TO DO is strip down, and lie there with their legs spread! Then, when we don't make THEM cum, too, it's OUR fault for not just KNOWING which buttons to
push! It's like girl line number 4, "If you don't know, I'm NOT going to tell you!!" Okay then, SUFFER!! YOU'RE the one losing out on deal because you REFUSE to tell me what you want done! If YOU don't tell me then I'M not going to make you cum!! It CAN'T be that important to you if you won't tell me!
Maybe if girls suffered from a severe case of blue balls, like we do, they'd speak up FAST and even come into the relationship, no matter how brief, with a written out personal handbook of what to do!! Even if it includes having a bunch of midgets jump out of a kangaroo pouch, we'll figure out SOME WAYY to make that happen!!

[rounddablock]

@FunkyMonkee funny I once was in a role reversal about having trouble finishing. My ex could get off easily but I went through this phase where I couldn’t finish. I never “blamed” her for that. Ever. She tried harder to please me of course. But she took it personally.

I dunno but I somewhat take it personally if I can’t get a woman to finish. Understandable the first or second time doing it. But if you consistently do it and she never finishes I begin to wonder if she doesn’t find me physically attractive but likes me for other reasons.

Guys in these scenarios aren’t allowed to show their emotions (one reason some women fake it). Supposed to not take it personally. But if the roles were reversed women act devastated.

[FunkyMonkee]

I was in a similar situation a couple years ago. We tried and TRIED and tried to fuck but, I just COULDN'T get hard enough to get into her! I think it was just a simple case of my need to be IN love with her, and I wasn't!
Well, don't beat yourself up over it, it COULD ACTUALLY be HER 'fault". Some women don't seem to get it that, when they cum (as in; squirt) it's NOT pee, it comes from the same hole but it's a completely different liquid! Therefore, they feel like they're GOING to squirt but stop themselves because they fear they're going to pee on you. They need to learn to just let go and have FUN!!
Then, there's the ever popular religious shackles!! God says sex is dirty, (which is why it gave sex to us in the first place, right?) so, she may have THAT locked door blocking her from cumming, too!
Try this and see of it helps her get past it. I did it to my ex a lot and would usually have her cumming (not squirting, though) in about 1 minute!!! It's a secret so, I have to write it in code. Here it is: Dog face to the banana patch, forceps p'nisnose speculum! Speculum Wankle rotary engine bird farts, pulmonary head case.
Got it?
I know!! They''d think, "Aren't I ENOUGH for you?" My ex was like that the ONE TIME over 10 years with her, that I decided to beat off and she caught me!! No! You were upstairs visiting your friend and I just wanted to cum and didn't want to wait! Had you been HERE, I WOULD''VE fucked you! I didn't want to pull you away from your visit so, I pulled my pud, instead! It had NOTHING to do with you not being enough!!
Seriously, though, the "secret" is this: when you go to eat her out, use your tongue to VERY SLOWLY write in GREAT BIG CAPITAL letters, the alphabet! Lemmie know how far you have to go. I was never able to get beyond the letter "I" before she came.

[natured]

Ow well looks like you've been through something here, and I'm sorry if you got hurt.
But this kind of behaviour from a woman is really immature, I don't condone it and I don't agree with it. I don't believe in "women seek for assholes and they friendzone the good ones" because I personally get turn off by "wanna be bad boys " and all that kind of sh*t...
So it's sad if you've been through something but it's also sad that you think it should have been part of my MyTake.
Still, thank you for reading I appreciate your comment

[FunkyMonkee]

Thank you!!
Well, that's probably because you're one of the good ones!

[rounddablock]

@natured thanks for having a considerate response to that. Unfortunately there are a lot of women out there like that. If there wasn’t you wouldn’t see so many guys ventilating about it on here.

[FunkyMonkee]

Damn straight!!!

[rounddablock]

@natured just a FYI mature men can handle tactful rejection. I’ve said this a million times and I’ll say it again “attraction is not a choice BUT respect is”.

Many women think that friendzoning a guy is somehow less painful for him when in reality it’s the absolute worse thing can do. It’s really just selfish female mental gymnastics because she feels validated by the attention he’s giving her. But she’s literally telling him she sees him as another woman and not a real man.

Anyway women need to be taught to be (respectfully) straight up with men early. The moment she realizes she doesn’t want to date him then she needs to politely tell him the truth. Also men (especially young men) need to be taught to handle rejection gracefully. I’ve had a small number of women straight up tell me they weren’t interested. I thanked them for their honesty and moved on.

If a guy gets pissed or upset for you rejecting him just take that as confirmation you made the right choice.

[MissGeorgia]

Not all women like to play hard to get... sometimes we are a little hesitant if we think the guy is a player, but some of us only turn a guy down if we are not sure.

I’m genuinely not a jealous person. Maybe a little territorial sometimes, but I don’t get jealous. I know my partner is going to look at other girls. I know he gets hit on a lot... I used to see it happen back in the beginning when he I were getting to know each other. If a guy makes you feel secure enough, there is no jealousy.
If someone is going to cheat, he’s going to cheat no matter what you do, and you’ll find out about it sooner or later if he does, it’s not worth worrying about in the meantime.

We like sports too

This was a fun... but I wish one person would stop trying to speak for an entire gender... especially when some people really do take it at face value.
Everyone is different

[natured]

I can't say this enough, I did say it like a gazillion times that i did not SPEAK ON BEHALF EVERY WOMAN.
Thank you for reading though

[bannacookies]

I agree with you @missgeorgia

[Anonymous]

I like a lot of these points :), but I think the 10th is not so good to leave as is.
It is kind of a dangerous game rejecting someone to make the men work harder for it. I have never been like that, and I know I don't speak for myself when I say I had several men not understanding even a direct no. It is at best frustrating and at worst very bad. Consent is so crucial to be aware of. Luckily there has been more focus on this recently so I really hope this view will change over time so people can trust a no and look for consensual behaviour.

[Aakash_Hangargi]

Exactly the mixed signals confuses guy , you make a guy mentally suffer that he should have tried once more maybe he had a chance so that he won't regret it's weird

[natured]

To be honest you are actually right, well this is why I like writing MyTakes i learn from them. I appreciate your comment a lot.
Thank you

[savage_barbarian]

i try until she threatens me with the cops then I just leave the girl alone, like I was at work and the girl I thought was really cute (I am 37 going to be 38 in August 2021) I put a single rose in the bed of this girls truck sticking up in the middle hole of the guard rail the next day I asked her if she liked the rose, without being disrespectful no sexual comments I didn't touch her I sat on the tailgate of my truck when I asked her. later that night my manager came up to me and told me the girl with those put in her 2-week notice saying some old guy was hitting on her then the cops were mentioned so I quit my job that night. haven't been back since I didn't know she was 17 years old!!

[Aakash_Hangargi]

Dude should have spoken to her first rose after you had mafe some friendship if you had spoken to her she might have told you she was under age

[Opinion Owner]

@savage_barbarian I get your user name, what a totally barbarian way of treating people. I hope you learn to respect everyones limits, underage or not. WTF.

[savage_barbarian]

if you think that was not being respectful then you don't know me. i thought It was very gentleman like behavior... but your right i should've just walked up to her and ask her to suck my dick or ask her to show me her butthole lol

[DianaWest]

@savage_barbarian why don't you ask out a 40 year old woman? too old for you?

[OlderAndWiser]

Experience has taught me that women won't change their behavior (and men won't, either.). But what they could do is stop talking about how childish men are and realize that men in relationships put up with just as much shit as they do.

[OlderAndWiser]

And. . . regarding point #7. I have also learned that some women will spend half of their life making sure that their panties and bra are matching and they will spend the other half of their life making sure that no one else sees them. They make sure that are matching because it makes women feel more confident of themselves, not because it will be more attractive to us when we see them in their underwear.

[Vikkrram]

I accpet the 10th point but you know Sometimes we as a men Feel very degaraded and starts to doubt ourself... That did even she like us for whom we are doing these efforts. As a shy guy... we face a lot of diificulty to chat with a girl whom we are intrested in... Coz one day she seems to be fine and other day she seems to be disinterested...
But Nothing is gonna change i knew... That's mine problem and i have to deal... no one is going to help me...
But thanks for the Article

[natured]

Yes i do understand, sadly this is very tricky, i realized it right now that nr. 10 might not be 100% accurate because some women when they say NO they actually mean it. So i think it all depends on the situation.
USUALLY i'd be creeped out of some stranger comes and tries his luck with me, that would be very disturbing. But if I know the person and he tries his luck i'd feel more confident to tell him OFF and vice versa.
LIKE I SAID Nr. 10 is tricky

[Vikkrram]

Yes i accpet the fact that If any strangers would have tried on any girls they naturally will get afraid but when you know that person and when you get the good vibes... then for us It's a bit tricky...
We don't get that and most of the times we misinterpret that signs.

And many relations get over coz of this... and i have Felt it personally... But no problem and also i am an below average looking guy... like on the scale of 10 you can rate me 2,3 so it's basically depends on ur look... also...

[IDontBelieveIt]

I know human relationships are not all about reproducing the next generation, but animal's that's what they do and eat they don't have the stress and complications

[Dalton57]

Unless the guy is charasmatic or whatever other traits you value. Your list is inconsistant. You have rules for yourself yet you also have conditions in which these rules don't apply.

As near as I can tell these rules actually mean nothing at all. It just boils down to your perception and feelings about the guy who is interested in you.

As for me if a girl rejects me then I move on. Why would I waste time on her when there are so many other woman? Eventually I will and I have find that woman who doesn't have a set of rules that she expects me to conform too. that girl who likes me just the way I am.

Quite frankly if I could identify women who have rules of engagement my life would be much simpler because I would avoid all of them.

Life is not rules. People are who they are and we all are better off when we learn to accept people for who they are.

My advice? Through out your cookie cutter and learn to enjoy and appreciate and understand men. You will be much happier.

[snackthatsmilesback]

Not to be rude but women who act like how you describe I find to be annoying as shit. You CAN control yourself ma'am you CAN communicate in a healthy way. Please don't encourage men to accept behavior like this because—at least in my and my friends experience —it only causes conflict and resentment in a relationship, and you can do better if you try.

[natured]

Yes you are right i'm not saying that THIS IS SOME TRAITS THAT MEN HAVE TO RESPECT no not at all, I mean not like you guys are all Mr. Perfect right?
These are basic inputs, they are very easy to deal with trust me.

[snackthatsmilesback]

No you didn't say we should respect it, but you said multiple times that you couldn't change how you behave. And that's not true. And it at least implies that that behavior should be accepted rather than challenged. Also even if something is only a little annoying to deal with, if it's a constant problem that never gets addressed or handled at all, it's still gonna cause conflict and resentment. Trust me.

I know nobodys perfect, i've dealt with my own issues in the past and I'm dealing with more now. But that doesn't mean it's just how some men are and it doesn't mean my wife shouldn't challenge my behavior when it's problematic. That's all.

[NoLookingAtSoleil]

I mean some of it is nice and kind of cute, but the urge to control AND be chased AND want a child simply doesn't add up.
Wanting to be chased is rejection, fundamentally - you keep wanting to reject at will/dose the attention you give but at the same time keep insisting you get ALL of a man's attention.
You essentially lock yourselves up in a cycle of despair - there isn't a man out there that likes to do the chasing, and his respect for you will inevitably be reduced or gone _because_ you don't like him, you like his effort (a form of enslaving; most guys are not interested in 'man' things except to also dose the amount of attention they give you since you keep dosing yours - if you gave all of it, the guy very happily would too - but you keep self sabotaging.

[ToastyOats]

I've never met a man that expected a woman to chase him, just meet me half way.

[natured]

I totally agree with what you said, and trust me, if i detailed everything just with the word CHASING, it would take me at least 10 pages to write about it.
Just the word CHASE itself if very expansive. And since most of men seem to missunderstand this part, i promise, I will work on a serious MyTake so you will understand that I did not mean in any way to infuriate your nerves with this. NOT AT ALL
Some men chase to boost their own low self-esteem. Some men chase out of power. Some men chase women in relationships because it feels good to beat out another man. Some men chase women who see them as platonic, just because they want to prove they can get out of that friend box. Some men like to be chased, some women are ok with chasing, some women accept chasing, some women enjoy chasing.
OK?
So there are DIVERSE situations for chasing alone, i agree with the commenter below, "meeting me half way" is the best way.
It takes two for everything, and i'm totally pro 50/50s I'm totally pro a woman making a first step and so on...
GENERALIZING is easy, but distinguishing each and every single individual and their behaviours it's hard, and sometimes our brains FREEZE and prefere to generalize...
YET sorry for writing so much, thank you so much for reading this MyTake and i appreciate your comment.

[NoLookingAtSoleil]

Ok, so maybe you are giving reasons to chase assuming men (or most men) like it.
If that is your motivation, it is an entirely different matter - chasing (and 'conquering') is indeed done out of a need to prove (primarily to one's self) they can 'achieve' (an encounter, at least, or acceptance, in fact) by someone they find attractive.
It does not constitute a complete and calm relationship, though.
The thing with living is that a) it takes calm to feel joy, b) if your relationship induces any stress you magnify it into 'business problems' (that may not, in fact, exist in the outside world, c) in case real outside world problems exist - you are much much better tackling them from a position of calm/peaceful harmony in your private life (deciding between the two who already feel sane/self-complete on what level of involvement is needed with/from the external world)
We certainly live in a culture of glorifying victory, or celebrating the 'who can run 100m the fastest'too much (especially when some people are suited to that, others to drawing, yet others to climbing walls, being carers/caring, storytellers etc - all the usual richness of natural life/human bio and ability-diversity)

[clampfan101]

1. Out of curiosity, what do girls typically think about ponytail lengths?
2. I don’t care how horny she is so long as she can control herself, so I’m not sure why you used the word “sadly”.
3. I figured the first part for myself. Any advice on the second part?
4. I will give my girlfriend all the attention I can, and will not reject the idea of pizza. lol
5. Again, I want to give her attention. I hope to find someone who likes video games so we can even do that together.
6. So I’ve heard. Any advice?
7. Makes sense, except what about wearing lots of makeup to a date?
8. (Same as 6)
9. I figured as much.
10. How do I know when to stop trying? I don’t want to accidentally be a stalker.
11. I want my girlfriend and I to be able to be expensive, always comfortable with bringing up any subject.
12. Anything I should do about this?

[KrakenAttackin]

@clampfan101. You are setting yourself up to be a Simp doormat.

[clampfan101]

@KrakenAttackin I’m just looking to learn what’s usually true. Sometimes out of curiosity, sometimes for preparation. I’m not letting anyone’s answers define me.

[KrakenAttackin]

@clampfan101. Which is why you will fail. Wisdom is learning from the mistakes if others.

[clampfan101]

@KrakenAttackin Want makes you think I won’t learn, and what does that have to do with becoming a “simp doormat”?

[Bogoboj]

Number 6 and 12 is HELL for men.
It really is insane how many times i have to ask my girlfriend "are you fine" if she is not fine before i get a straight answer, there has to be a better way than making your man ask a million times the same f*cking question!

And number 12 is just weird, it is so inconsistent, many times an (ex) girlfriend told me that she thinks "that woman is hot" and then i agree with her and nothing is wrong but then when i see a cute girl on TV/park and i tell my girlfriend "that girl is cute" all hell breaks loose! She won't have sex and i get the silent treatment for 2 days.

Women are INSANE and inconsistent as f*ck but i still love them so who is the crazy one?

[Madison193]

that's true and I know it (from observing my mom and step-dad) Lol! also some of us do have emotional mood swings (I can go from being mad to sad or sad to mad, my mom used to tell me to suck it up when I was sad and crying so instead I got mad)

[Bogoboj]

@Madison and i know we men do things that appears cold and distant witch in turn pisses women of even more.

[Madison193]

@Bogoboj true also what type of things specifically though? Everyone needs distance and space and their me time every once in a while or every now and then

[IDontBelieveIt]

@Madison193 bottled it up? Nobody should be given that advice to suck it up, bottle it up, that when trouble\ problems start. Humans were designed to cry be emotional to get the negative out of our systems. That's why more males have problems with anger and mental health than females, but I believe it is now happening more in females.

[Madison193]

@IDontBelieveIt I've heard of bottled it up yes that's what I done but my mother used to tell me to suck it up (which wasn't always a bad thing considering I was once overly emotional) anyways yes bottling up emotions is bad for health and really bad if done for a long time

[Yourfriend2021]

After reading all of this, it seems like some kind of uphill battle that isn't worth it. I know cute girls that don't fit into all of this, and I think lots of guys agree with me.

[Aakash_Hangargi]

It would only make sense after reading the below link.

12 Things Guys Won't Tell You ↗

[natured]

Sure, I agree with you, that's why I used the word " SOME " " MOST" i never said ALL, or NONE. Because we're not all the cute girls that you know, not all of us FIT, some might be just ONE of all the 12 that i have listed above.
Thank you for reading I appreciate it.

[Yourfriend2021]

You're welcome and thanks for explaining it.

[Shy_Steve]

For number 10 the reason why most Guys don't try harder is because it can easily look creepy that is why a lot of us Guys usually don't try harder.

[libsaretards]

More than that, we can get put in jail or lose our careers

[hahahmm]

It's just not worth it anyhow.

[natured]

I totally agree, and I appologize id it came off as " YOU HAVE TO TRY HARDER " it wasn't my intention trust me.
Thank you for reading though, and I appreciate your comment

[KrakenAttackin]

@hahahmm Absolutely true. Modern women are more childish than toddlers and more dangerous than rattlesnakes. #NotWorthIt.

[YourFutureEx]

I don't know how I knew about every single point lol (except the messy hair one)

My biggest problem with women is how the point number 5 and point number 11 exist at the same time. Women want to do their stuff but don't really handle it well when we ignore them for our own hobbies and ambitions.

[na2398]

Point no 10- A lot of men walk away because they would think the girl ain't interested in a lot of cases. However, trust me, if I really liked a girl and valued her, I'd never give up even if it meant giving up my self-respect.

[natured]

Well that's a good point you made. Thank you for reading :)

[na2398]

Thanks for this wonderful take. What do you think- would a girl try to remain friends to test the waters?

[natured]

To be honest it depends on their resistance, I wouldn't be able to be stable for long, I like facts immediately, I like stability from the get go. So I don't know, like I said above, we're not the same.

[na2398]

And I love honesty. :) Nothing matters more to me than honesty. If you don't like me, say it right away. If you do and I reciprocate, in for a genuine long-term partnership. :)

[natured]

That is true, and usually i'm the one to be straight honest right away, but the sad thing is that guys get their EGO broken, and most girls don't want to cause stress or sadness upon a guy and therefore they just don't say anything at all and try other ways to escape...

[na2398]

I get that. What if the guy's ego isn't broken? What other ways could they try to escape? I'm such a rookie lol. Never dated anyone till date ahaha

[natured]

OH LORD , see it doesn't matter if you are a rookie, usually you can sense if a woman is annoyed by you, trust your gut instincts. If she's annoyed she will try to get distracted, use her phone or go to the toilette, or talk to another person instead just to avoid you. There are million ways, if a woman is interested she will have eyes just for you from the beginning... so Don't be scared through yourself into the dating world, you have nothing to loose really-

[na2398]

Thanks for the inputs. How about them escaping on the chats? Could you give a few examples?

[natured]

As for the chats it's complicated, usually if they're not interested they just leave you on read and won't reply, OR they will be really cold towards you, even here you have to trust your gut feeling. Just never GIVE TOO MUCH information to women and don't OVERSHOWER them with compliments that will scare them away.

[na2398]

What if they chat nicely always and it goes smooth, but still try to escape?

[natured]

Well I don't have answers to everything Bud, I think you should just enjoy the chatts and see what happens, don't plan everything in your head take it slow and easy. As they say, don't rush or you might fall.

[na2398]

I think you're right. I do enjoy the chats aha. And I don't expect anything tbh. I just want to see her happy. Care a lot for her. :) And wouldn't wanna lose her at any cost. :) Too valuable to me. :) She might or might not feel the same way but it won't affect our bond. :)

[Darth_Fidelis]

Thanks for being honest. Really. But as a man trying to be a gentleman, it’s really hard in this day and age to chase after you girls like you want to be chased for fear of repercussions. People can say whatever they want about it being a myth, but that does not change reality.

Still we appreciate your openness about this.

[Lynx122]

Great take, I accept your aplologies don't worry about it :)

[natured]

Thank you for reading it appreciate open minds

[magiusX26]

you wanted equal rights as an overall bunch now deal with the negative side effects of that. meaning things like being chased is no longer a very viable option. want to change that dynamic, go back in time then. though if you find a way to do that, please go back way further abd truly fix the original problem (fyi, that means long before any real recorded history) .

[Dchrls78104]

I lost my faith in humans long before Merlin Santana was killed after a 15 year old girl falsely accused him of coming on to her. I would therefore believe what I read in this Take only when I see it in practice right before my face and in my own life.

[natured]

I mean, I'm sure you will see this in practice, my partner is living it all and I'm not afraid or ashamed to admit everything.
I hope you enjoyed it though

[ChiTown33]

13. Women will never give a straight answer. Every question is a game of chess with them. You can't even get angry for their lives because they truly don't understand their lying most the time. I agree wholeheartedly with you @Dchrls78104

[bannacookies]

Wow. What mind of stereotypical thing is this? Most of this is way off. I realize you said not all women are like this but I have still yet to find one like this.

[natured]

It might be off for you, but not for me and not for other women, and i did mention it SO MANY TIMES that i'm not speaking on behalf of everyone.
I'd appreciate if you read it more carefully, i never intended to spread false information on behalf of every single woman.

[bannacookies]

I know you're not speaking on behalf of all. I mentioned that you're not. It seems pretty stereotypical like a man wrote this on what he wants his woman to be like in my opinion. Since you wrote & shared your thoughts, I'm assuming you're open for feedback and will not be offended by my thoughts.

[natured]

Obviously I accept and respect everyones opinion. So I appreciate your comment

[savage_barbarian]

she's from Italy all women around the world do no think the same, I'm just glad Spartacus put them in their place or the whole world would be ruined

[pink_and_inlove]

I agree with these! I wear lipstick for me though I even wear it at home because I feel weird without it lol

[KrakenAttackin]

@pink_and_inlove. The origin of lipstick is for women to show an aroused vagina as their lips. Seriously, do a little research about how lipstick came to being.

[pink_and_inlove]

I’d rather not lol. I think vaginas are ugly so I’m not trying to look like an aroused one I just inherited it from my great grandmother my obsession with lipstick

[natured]

I also love lipsticks, and just like you I wear it at home as well. As for Kraken, he is a woman hater let him be.

[KrakenAttackin]

@natured. I wrote the truth about lipstick and you equate that with hate. Classic.

[natured]

@KrakenAttackin You need therapy

[admles]

In regards to 6, pull this on me, and a girl is going to be an ex very, very quickly. I have NO time for that, and the silent treatment is a quick way to get dumped.

As for 8, again, that manipulative shit will also piss me right off, and you'll be single before you know it.

The rest is pretty good though!

[Olllllllllll]

I have learned a very valuable lesson here as a man; a woman that writes about the 12 things women won’t tell you will be vastly complained to BY WOMEN in the article she posts. Therefore, women simply won’t tell you a damn thing and they are equally unexplainable to themselves…

[natured]

I admit, most of us don't make sense in many assumptions we make, for the simple fact of a basic defense. This does not mean we're dumb, we just try to express feelings in a different way and sometimes we regret it, because we know that we asked too much in many cases... We're complex creatures.

[KrakenAttackin]

@natured. "We are complex creatures". That is rationalizing childish and entitled behavior. This is also the reason it is so hard to take women seriously in anything other than sex.

[natured]

@KrakenAttackin Can you please stop and leave me alone seriously, you are sickening.

[KrakenAttackin]

So, why should men put up with the above childish and manipulative behaviour, for the potential of sex?

Give me a reason, beyond sex, that a man should play this women's game.

[natured]

I don't think it's a game, this is just 1% of us being WOMEN, and I don't think the outcome should be SEX , yes some things seem tricky, some things seem off, some things might even seem manipulative for the simple reason of self protection in general.
Most of us women want to protect our heart, we don't want it to get hurt, we don't want to jump with you in bed after you have understood and applied all of the above.
THESE ARE NOT BASIC FACTS, they are not 100% accurate, they might be an input, i never said these 12 things are LEGIT, but they are still some things that someo of us women won't admit to.
ALSO, you should appreciate the fact that admited between the lines that we're not ANGELS, that we are complicated at times, and it's normal ... nothing to cry about
I appreciate your comment

[KrakenAttackin]

Just because this is you "being women" doesn't mean it's acceptable behavior? When children act badly we correct them and tell them their behavior is not appropriate. We hold children accountable, so why don't we hold grown women accountable?

[natured]

As if you Men behave correctly all the time? C'mon now, before pointing fingers ask yourself are you Mr. Perfect? If you are i'm sorry but you seem boring just saying...
If you think you need to have the privilegde to TEACH US HOW TO BEHAVE then you are waaaaaaaaaaaaaay out of your lines sir.
Just saying.
Thank you again

[KrakenAttackin]

@natured. You don't think women call men out when they behave badly? Also, a man will do almost anything to make a woman happy, except for Chad Thundercock, who doesn't need to appease women.

The average guy regularly bends over backwards to appease women, only to be met with the childish behavior you describe.

[Dalton57]

Exactly.

[ohshee]

I absolutely love this and to be honest with you it is a major turn-on it's very sexy so I want to thank you very hot well done thank you

[IDontBelieveIt]

Yes I would agree.