Switch the genders and you'd have my initial opinion... but that would be generalizing so I'll drop the gender focus.
The importance of a relationship is for exclusivity. Given your opinion of men, you've ran into a lot of men that isn't focused on having an 'exclusive relationship' meaning they exclude the option of sex with others in favor of building a deeper than sex relationship with one person exclusively... shielding that relationship from the damage that including others can cause.
My initial opinion of women can be based of the same premise. You and I are merely working of anecdotal experience though, and the gender basis of our opinion might have a lot to do with the perspectives our genders has granted us with... I don't deal with men, maybe you don't deal with women in exclusive relationships.
My bias, tends to view women as desperate for obtaining relationship status in order to advance a grasp on keeping him hers, until she can monkey branch to a new guy she has on the backburner... the cake and eating it too. My opinion on men is that if they didn't really want a relationship to begin with, he might placate to her desire of wanting him to be exclusive, just to get some sex... but never had any real intentions of being exclusive from the start. Does that sound familiar? If so, we may have found the common ground we could base some reasoning on. Like what is the importance of wanting exclusivity... her for attention, thus finding more on the DL, or him for sex, thus finding more on the DL perhaps?
Of course if the male and female both want exclusivity, I doubt the value of monogamy is less for either the male or the female. They'll focus their primary desire, attention or sex respectively, and obtain their secondary through the same person as well, attention or sex respectively... but if attention is sought elsewhere, it could equal sex, if sex is sought elsewhere, so too with the attention it can bring.
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Why ask a question if you only want validation of your claim?
You seemingly reject the answers of everyone not saying "Cus men are trash!"
Men are fundamentally polygamours, because they are biologically programmed to spread their genes. Obviously this is an oversimplification, but a successful male in nature is one that has many offsprings.
Women are hypergamous, because they need the support of the strongest, most stable available men to raise their children.
Both of these are parts of the natures of the respective sexes, and both of these are horrible things when taken to the extremes.
And women cheat as much as men, they initiate 70-80% of divorces, they commit 50% of reported domestic violence... seriously, stop being a prejudicial manhater, and grow the fuck up!
I will generalize this. Some people date to satisfy their emotional needs. Some date to satisfy physical needs. When an emotional need is not met, a person might still linger around if he/she is used to being around the other person. When a physical need is not met and the person values this requirement in a relationship, then there is a high chance that he/she will stray. It is a matter of priorities and not so much on gender itself. Women are becoming more independent nowadays as well.
Now, speaking for myself. I've been in two serious relationships, and both of them were cheaters. I value emotional needs. Both of them prioritize physical needs. There you go.
I think men are more flexible to be in a monogamous relationship if their needs are met. Yet it could be true that women are raised to be innocent virgins and this is why they want different things, and eventually initiating divorce. I've heard the percentage is higher with women
yes, it seems like women are more about preserving the family, at least this is what i have seen from my experience and other people experiences
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Most women do. We were raised to - even unintentionally - want a family and fairy tales were told to us with princes wanting only one woman for life.
These days and maybe since the beginning of life, this sounds unrealistic even because people claim humans aren't supposed to be monogamous.
Then again, women are changing and becoming just like the guys when it comes to freedom.I wouldn't be so sure about that, not least because it takes two to tango.
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Are you asking who cheats more?
In general yes, probably. What's mindboggling to me is that feminism encourages this hook-up culture and teaches women that it's empowering, but is it really?
If women prefer monogamy, and the social pressures than enforce this are broken down so that now men can sleep with a bunch of women, who wins in that situation? Promiscuous men obviously. They pump and dump a lot of naive misguided women who jump into bed with them too fast and get what they want, while those women often end up miserable.
Yet most women still support feminism, the liberalisation of the dating market, and they complain about slut-shaming and the fact that men can sleep around but women can't as you have right here. If you want more monogamy and less players, you should argue for more shaming of promiscuity, not less. But women do the opposite.70 % of divorces are initiated by women; 80 % of child custody goes to the woman completely.
Irrespective of what you "feel", there is a truth that's hard as steel.
Another fact is that women's sexual market value (make of that what you will) goes down as they age; a pretty woman who kept herself a virgin is the most desirable thing to a man.
On the other hand - men become. With advancing age, we become more refined, more skilled and our reanings increase - with these and other factors, our appeal to women increases.
I urge all boys and young men to keep looking forward and work on themselves!Evolutionary speaking it makes sense for men not to want to be with just one woman. If the idea is to produce the most amount of offspring men shouldn't be monogamous. Men would stay with a woman to ensure the offspring survival. Nowadays that isn't needed so much. Female animals have always been more selective because they have a huge burden and energy expenditure for getting pregnant, and thus are more careful with who they mate with.
What you are saying comes from society seems to be more of an evolutionary difference between men and women.I feel on average men are more honest in how they feel and act about monogamy than women. I feel like women are pressured by society to be in monogamous relationships and will feel shamed if they are sleeping around. So women are forced to lie and deceive in order to sleep around while their public reputation hinges on playing the perfect monogamous partner. As men have less pressure to be pure, they are more willing to be honest and will hurt their reputation by sleeping around even when in a relationship.
Yes, because woman bless there hearts where born with feelings and emotions way more than men were, we are a bit dumb when it comes to things as such but we do want to care just as much, we just need guidance from you in the right way , not our caveman, grunt and groan way
Yeah good joke. With all the options a woman has today. Society taught women to be virgin princesses decades ago! Not today! For the simple reason that you women can bang a billion dicks and still be unsatisfied. Men can't get shit nowadays. We've reached a point where an ugly tinder chick that is no more than a 6 sets up tinder dates with over two thousand men and then makes them compete with each toothier for her ugly face. And of course the one guy that won and was according to HER standards the BEST still went back home with a big set of blue balls because there was no... chemistry. So lets forget the myth that says women value a relationship more than.
It's all historical nature of when people died very easily.
Historically, men are supposed to spread their seed before they die, which was a lot and often, in hopes that he would have children to carry on his legacy.
Historically, women would align themselves to the men who could ensure their survival and the survival of her children, whether he were the biological dad or not, and whether he knows it or not. :P
Historically, people had LOT of children to ensure at least ONE of them would live to adulthood.
Nowadays, that's not the case, but you cannot override millenium of "how it was" in a short time span of 100 years.
That said, both sexes are capable of monogamy and capable on polygamy. It just depends on the person.Judging by the number of women who sleep around and cheat on their partners. Judging by the fact that 70% of divorces are initiated by women. I don't think that women are more monogamous or faithful than men.
Most guys just exaggerate their sexual experiences, they sleep with five partners and tell their friends that they have had 10 partners! Because, apparently, its more manly.
And women conceal it, if they have had five partners they might tell no one, or tell their friends that they had two partners at past. Its apparently less womanly I don't know why.
So its very hard to say that women are loyal and men are promiscuous generallyNo, women say they do more, but then they cheat as often as men according to most studies now adays. From my personal experience, I'd have to say men value monogamy more. Myself and most of my male friends have been cheated on at one point, yet most of us (me and my friends) haven't ever cheated, as far as I know.
I think it really depends on popular culture in the location you live. Additionally, your ethnic or religious culture plays a big role in this. My ethnic culture, being a Syrian and a Muslim, has taught me to strongly value monogamy. All I need to do is find a girl who is the same way.
No. My impression is that men are more insistent upon women being monogamous while they can be *natural*
I think on individual basis it really doesn’t uppn the person. Some people value monopoly more than others, but I think most people want to be loved and there are many ways to accomplish that within and outside of cultural norms.That is not true men value monogamy just as much as women. I always hear women say things like this but unless your dating women and men then you don't really know. Women are not said is there is just as many cheating women as there is men probably more. The same things that men do women do I'm sure you have a female friend or know one that doing dirt.
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Cuz they are made, that way...Biology and almost all studies show that men are more likely to cheat in a monogamous relationship. Having said that, I've seen plenty of hoes out there that will go behind their husbands back and cheat. Then they take the kids. It's a real fucked up thing.
Not sure. In my experience most men in a relationship look but do not touch. Most women, even monogamous ones, have a man or several in reserve in case the current relationship fails. Also, perhaps it is just my circle, but I know far more wives and girlfriends who have cheated on their significant others than men who have.
I can't speak for anyone but myself, but as long as boundaries are set in the beginning I don't mind a poly relationship with consenting parties.
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