Guys, Would you marry a woman who is not a virgin?

[startingfitness]

I have never understood the point of marriage if the woman isn't a virgin. I mean the idea of marriage is that you have a woman for yourself, and no one else can touch her. But if she is not a virgin, then that means somebody already did that before.
And that person did it without any commitment towards her. If someone can do that to a woman without any commitment then why would a man commit to her and want her to be his wife? And besides that, wouldn't it irritate you to know that another man had touched your woman? I don't know, I hear some people say that they are fine with it but I don't know if its just a politically correct front or if they actually mean that. I think we men should be a lot more honest about our thoughts and feelings.

yes, absolutely

no

yes, but i would prefer a virgin

[PrudentGuy]

When i was a virgin, yes. I wanted virgin girls only.

But now, no. I think non-virgjn knows more about life, relationship and, of course, sex.

This makes better wife, I think, because she knows how to please a man. (What's left is whether she WANTS to please him or not )

[startingfitness]

I don't understand this line of thinking at all. Non virgins also have more baggage, find sex less special and are more likely to leave you.
I don't think this makes a better wife at all.
You should know that with every partner a woman has her bonding hormone ( oxytosin) release decreases, Which means she will feel less love and connection the more partners she has.

[PrudentGuy]

Ya, first time do have its special moments.

But speaking of long term as in a marriage, assuming no kids or debts, an experienced girl probably want it to work.

E. g. divorcee. Today, many first marriages failed. But what happens to two divorcee? I hope I have more statistics than mere friends experiences.

Anyway, I'm not saying your argument is wrong. I just voice another viewpoint that experience may make the relationship better because they don't want the 2nd marriage to fail again.

[PrudentGuy]

and speaking of sex being special... after we fuck for yhe 100th time, its the same LOL!

[startingfitness]

the 100th time may not be as special as the 1st time sure, but for her its the same man. So sex for her is something special that she shares with you and hasn't given to anyone else. I mean special in that way.

I agree that a lot of people may want to make the second marriage work, but from a biological viewpoint its less likely. because the girl feel less connection/bonding to the next man.
My point is that its more likely to have a successful marriage if you marry a girl that has had no partners.
It also affects men to an extend, men who have been with too many women get bored with 1 woman after a while.

[PrudentGuy]

I wish what you wrote were true today.

Logically and emotionally, your argument is sound.

The sad part is, society had changed and women in general are a lot more educated and demands more say.

I think this is a strong factor to marriage failures.

Looking at today's divorce rate, I think it has more to do with attitudes than sex experiences.

And to make things worse, many virgin marrages had failed just like promiscuous ones. Hence many rather choose promiscuity over chastity. A sad fact i would say.

[startingfitness]

" society had changed and women in general are a lot more educated and demands more " - this is 100% true. people don't talk about it as it can be seen as mysoginistic but its a fact.

attitudes and culture play a role as well as sex experiences. I think that both are linked and go together rather than 2 separate factors.
Attitudes and cultures allow people to be more promiscuous and this leads to failed families.

And yeah some virgin marriages fail too but statistically its less likely.
we can compare the divorce rates in western countries to some eastern countries and see that there is a huge difference. In countries where people marry as virgins and promiscuity is looked down upon, marriages fare a lot better.
I will say you have a very good point about attitudes/promiscuity and marriage.

[oncpl]

I fully agree to your argument but it should be two-way commitment, that only a virgin guy should expect and desire virgin wife. Isn't it hypocrisy that most of the guys are involved with girls for sex but demand virgin girl to marry?

[startingfitness]

that's a good point but it isn't hypocrisy. Men and women want different things, women like tall men but men don't necessarily have a height preference. Women generally prefer wealthier men, men don't usually have such a preference, women like men with beards, men who like women usually don't want them to have facial hair if possible lol.
so men and women like and look for different things. Virginity is a very attractive quality to me as well as many guys ( it seems you too) but it doesn't seem to be necessary with women. The only time I see women say they want it too is when we guys say we prefer virgins. That's not really a preference then. I have yet to see a girl who straight-up said she preferred virgins.

If its not a real preference, then there is no point in demanding it. We don't demand women to be tall, just because they want tall men, do we?
That being said, if a virgin girl prefers virgin men, she has every right to and I won't say anything, its her choice. But to think that men can't have a preference if we don't fit the preference is a wrong line of thinking. that's like saying a woman can't like tall guys just because she happens to be a bit short.

[oncpl]

You have logical narration. My point of view was, and is, that guy who prefer virgin must himself be a virgin. I do know that great majority of girls find virginity a thing to be get rid of as soon as possible. Generally your arguments are appealing.

[startingfitness]

Its nice if you want to hold yourself to a certain standard , if you look for the same in a partner. But you can't expect others do to the same, that's a personal choice. Especially when there is no demand for that standard.
But if women demanded and preferred virgin men then i'm sore more guys would be.

And I disagree with girls wanting to get rid of their virginity. A lot of them feel pressured to lose it.

[oncpl]

Thanks for MHG.

[startingfitness]

yw :-)

[BeenThereLovedIt]

Women aren't slaves. You don't OWN them. really WTF?

[startingfitness]

Pretty sure that a marriage means that you own your partner. Not physically like a slave, but more like sexually.
At least that's what traditional marriage means, it means you own each other sexually and romantically. I don't know what people think marriage means nowadays but perhaps that's why divorce rates are so high.

[BeenThereLovedIt]

@startingfitness And I'm pretty sure you have no idea what marriage means. If your wife says no to sex and you force her, that's called rape. Married or not, it's still rape.

[startingfitness]

I think i understand it better than you do. You seem to be too absorbed in the victim mentality culture. Relax and think like a normal person.. It has nothing to do with rape, when you are married your partner is the only one you have sex with, that's what I meant.

[magiusX26]

if i was to marry at all, i'ld very much preffer her not be a virgin. the reason being she is a partner and not an object to be owned.

[startingfitness]

that doesn't make any sense

[Browneye57]

Well, proof positive that a guy's brain just doesn't fully form 'till mid-twenties. Amazing the shit people will brainwash themselves with.

[startingfitness]

what?

[Browneye57]

Let me put it this way... THERE ARE NO FORTY YEAR OLD VIRGINS. :)

[startingfitness]

I understand. Well they would be too rare to find at least. But there are some 20 yo virgins

[Browneye57]

Surely there are, but figure they're dumb as rocks in the sex department.
I dunno, I think I had one virgin in all my years and couldn't even get my dick in there. ;)

[Drumlin2001]

Good luck finding your wife.

[startingfitness]

thank you

[MiamiMadness]

That’s only because you’re a Virgin

[startingfitness]

Nah, a mans experience has nothing to do with it, I think. I know a guy who has been with 28 women and he is adamant about only marrying a virgin. Same goes with most of the players I know. Its generally guys who have limited experience who seem to be more relaxed about it.

[MiamiMadness]

Nah it’s more like where you live buddy. Trust me Miami is a city full of players and I’ve never heard one of my boys specifically require their wifey to be a virgin because down here people lose that V card early as shit. So stay living where you are to avoid disappointment 😂

[startingfitness]

ah you are probably right. Depends on culture and location I guess. But still , wouldn't you prefer a woman who is a virgin over one who isn't?

[MiamiMadness]

Yes exactly culture and location but it’s not something we grow up worrying or even thinking about since like I said most have lost that since 14-16 years old, you just look for a good woman. there's a difference between 2 partners and 222 partners

[startingfitness]

okay, that's an interesting perspective. thanks for your opinion.

[MiamiMadness]

No problem, have a good one brother 🙏

[Dchrls78104]

Probably not. I'd much prefer the virgin.

[LEADFOOTboi]

long as she ain't a hoe, it should be ok

[Anonymous]

I already did, my ex-wife.

[Anonymous]

Vote C

[Cryptic-Game]

Only if it was necessary.