Don’t get me with the “ but women cheat too”, cause they still cheat less despite the countless opportunities they have. If men could get casual sex as easily as women then most of them would never know what the term monogamy mean. in my opinion all men cheat cause it’s in their genetics to spread their seeds around, they can be romantic and lovey dovey with a girl but they will still accept the offer to fuck another woman, unless they’re asexual ( which is a rare hormonal case). Now I think most women are aware of it, even men admit it how they’re biologically programmed to be polygamous. My question is; why do women still want romantic relationship with men, and expect them to be loyal? Even ugly men cheat when the occasion shows up!
Why are women still dating and marrying men while all of them cheat if given the chance?
Okay, we get it: you've been hurt and cheated on. I'm not here to judge you, but hear me out-
Yeah, there are men out there that cheat and will do so if given the chance. They are scum and should have their privates chopped off. However, there ARE good men out there! Men that don't cheat, lie, or fool around. They treat their women right and would never hurt them-
... I can't say I've had the pleasure of being with a man like that, but damnit, I KNOW they exist! I have faith in the few decent men still left out there, lol.
Kidding aside, we, as women, date men because even with the bad ones out there, we hope that we will find that good, loyal man that treats us right and won't hurt us. And in return, we'll do the same for him.
Yes that process means possibly going through A LOT of pain, hurt, rejection, and possibly being cheated on. But if/when you find the right guy, it's worth it.
My advice to you is to take a break from dating and men until further notice. Just enjoy yourself. Do what makes you happy and focus on some goals in your life. I did that and yes, it does wonders for you and your self esteem.
After I got burned out of men and dating in my 20s, I took an indefinite hiatus from dating. I focused on my job, losing weight, and doing thing that made me happy. Years later, I've accomplished most of my goals, I'm stress free, and happier than I was before!
I'm not saying completely give up on men, or dating. Just... take a breather. And don't place all men in a negative light: trust me, being that bitter will only make you more miserable.
I think much of it comes down to how the asker presents herself to the men in her life. She is attracting them for a reason. I think some introspection is needed here.
I usually don't respond to post that are just designed to get negative feedback for attention, but...
1) Woman cheat just as much as men, they are just better at getting away with it.
2) Not ALL men cheat. It's not just a thing people do because they are "biologically programed too". A man OR a woman in a happy fulfilling relationship won't risk cheating and ruining a great thing. People in unhappy relationships cheat because they need an escape (not justifying it, but it's more understandable as to why they do it).
3) If every guy you have been with has cheated on you than you have never been in a real healthy relationship. And I suggest you take a look at yourself and figure out why that is and what are doing wrong before pointing the finger at one half of the planet. Because chances are the issue starts with you and your attitude.
Same reason men still marry women when all women do is drain a man of his resources. And very rarely pull there weight in a relationship. I’ve never gone on a date where a woman has paid for her own, offered to pay, expected to pay. Her expectations are to be taken to a fancy restaurant, wined and dined, spoiled.. and then maybe she will think about maybe going forward.. lol and then when a man finally gets with the woman after all that.. and she ain’t shit in any aspect of life. Yet he invested so much into her for ZERO return.. but she too high strung that he is trapped. Of course he going to find something better. Now, he should do it the right way and dump her worthless ass. But some men chicken out.. which is not commendable. But my advise for any man out there, if you with a woman and she gets mad at you for taking her to an economical date, and trying to spend as least money as possible. That is a red flag, unless you like that shit, run! Dates should be about how much time you spend getting to know one another, not trying to impress on her how much you can spend on her. If she doesn’t like it. It will only get worse, not better. Do yourself a favor, money will make you happier than a high strung female.
Yo, not all the girls are like that. I myself had go on dates with girls who wants to pay and insist on paying. I trick them, so I can pay for them. The thing is it is a gentleman man thing to pay for them on a date. Mostly if you were the one asking to go on a date and even if she did, I still try to pay and if they offered themselves to pay I will trick them so I can pay.
Also, girls don’t care about expensive places. If they do, they just using you as a food guy and you letting them use you makes me think that you kiss up to them and those same exact girls aren’t interested in you and you couldn’t see that. The blame is on you for letting them take advantage of you and them for being a shitty human being. No need to hate on them when not all girls are like that. You remind me of a friend who was being used as a food guy and didn’t want to admit even though that girl confessed her feelings to me. He didn’t want to admit it, so she kept using him just because he thought he might have a chance.
Oh I know I’ve stopped... I don’t mess with girls that don’t want to go on a date to get to know me. The truth is, if I’m down to take them to Taco Bell, they should be happy because the purpose of a date is to spend time with each other.
And no, that’s society again telling you that it’s “the gentleman” thing to do to pay for the meal. Nah, again, if we are keeping with the theme of being an adult and being on a date for each other, then each party should be good to pay for there own!
I wish I could be around the same girls you are around. Sounds good to have women that aren’t out to take advantage of a man! Kudos to you for living in a place that’s almost a utopia when it comes to that. Also, did I say all girls? I don’t know I said ALL girls... I just said the “same reason why girls...” the same why you implicate that I’m meaning all girls is the same way I’m saying girls in my experience. You are assuming I am calling out all girls which i have not done!
I’m not going to give you a lecture on how to treat women. You mindset is exactly like that friend I told you about. I’m just telling you that there is a reason on why a lot of good looking women had caught feelings for me in my university and they are the ones that a lot of guys desire the most. One thing I know for sure is that you should date a feminist girl. They do like to pay for themselves. You can still trick them, but since that’s not what you want. They will pay for their half.
@JustTheTrue I was never been cheated on cause I never wanted to date a man. It’s just that ALL the woman I know have been cheated on by their husbands and molested when they were kids. But I know what I am saying is useless cause you’re a man so you can feel compassion
@asker I do feel sorry for those women that were unfortunately in that situation. There is nothing right about that situation. But in my experience, if you have talked to some of the guys that do cheat, you will get a picture of why... yes, there are idiots out there that want to hurt people just for the hell of it.. and yes, THEY ARE ON BOTH SIDES.” I had a friend who dated this girl for about 3 years, he got cheated on I would say about 4 times before he let her go. He was forgiving, wanting to do better, gave her chances. Went to therapy.. did all the right things to “fight” for his relationship. But the conclusion of it all was, she loved the thrill of doing something “forbidden...” that’s was the statement in his last session that made him realize she was a serial cheater.. it happens to men too, and that I feel you have no sympathy or compassion for!
And what you experienced through your friends is sad, I’ve experienced being taken advantage of personally by multiple women when I was younger.. I worked hard, I had a woman that said if you take me on a cruise then We’ll be together, my dumbass paid for a cruise through my savings when I was in college. She split once we got back... and many other cases like that before that. I take the blame because I didn’t have someone to tell me, don’t go with people that expect those things. So yes, I am cautious about women’s intentions, and investing in a women because I’ve yet to meet a woman that is not out for her own personal gain when it comes to me and what I have...
@motownplayer2000You are clearly dating the high maintenance women and who know because they are good looking a guy will gladly oblige them. Maybe you need to date plain looking girls.
@Asker I got a friend who caught his wife cheating on him with her manager. She also recorded herself sleeping with her manager and other guys then she left him for another guy. Ironic her family and his family think they are happily together. When in reality they are living a separate life together. But hey you can’t understand because you are bitter woman who got screwed by one guy and assume that every guy is like that.
I don’t want a feminist women. I want someone that thinks like me. They work hard, they pull there own weight. Not depending on someone to do for them, yet, they would like to be with someone who will treat them with that kind of respect that’s needed. She will do for me and put as much effort into the relationship as I do. That’s all I ask, but yet, most times that’s too much for a woman.
Wow that's a very strange turn for me that you think this it's not in any men I really don't know which world you living. I have seen men and women cheat both equally but it doesn't mean every guy who cheats make all guys like that, let me tell you I have never cheated in my life and also will never. If there are guys who cheat then there are men who doesn't and even how much I tell you, I know you'll never believe me.
There are people around the world every one is different don't just give your own judgement on every guy or there. Haven't you seen happily married couples which are really old and love each other.
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You guys literally always remind us how women get less attractive with time and how men are attracted to women in their early 20’s and late teens no matter how old they are themselves. You tells us how men are naturally programmed to impregnate as many women as they could but you get mad when we say that men are trash?
I have to disagree that all men cheat. While there is definitely no shortage of cheaters of both sexes, there are also plenty of men who want a loyal closed relationship just as much as many women do. They get cheated on and get their hearts broken as well.
I honestly think it sounds like you've been around a lot of low quality guys or have been listening to too many extremists/nuts on here (and keep in mind that a good chunk of what you see on here from people, especially the really wild shit, is in no way indicative of reality.
Good men don’t cheat. If you’re a high value enough as a woman, you’ll find a man who respects and appreciates that he has ever had the chance to be with you. Get a man so enamored with you that he doesn’t want to cheat.
Except that isn't true. Women cheat at comparable rates to men and statistically only about 20% of people will cheat at least once in their life time. Maybe next time don't pick shitty men and you won't have that problem. I mean if every guy you have been with has cheated on you, at that point the common denominator in the equation is you, your the only consistent factor so either your doing something wrong (like if your in a relationship with a man for five years and you refuse to have sex with him, I'm sorry but don't act shocked when he decides to have sex with some one else. Is it right for him to do that? No, he should have divorced/dumped the woman, but to pretend like she wasn't a factor in that is just stupid.), OR your doing something wrong by picking the wrong type of man (like going after a bad boy or some one with a very specific personality type, one that makes him prone to cheating).
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Its not about dating but about the fact that I was catcalled when I was 11 by grown ass men and that me and many girls I know were molested at least once by a man when they were kids. Men are dangerous
Except statistically thats not accurate. Also plenty of men were molested by women too (statistically men are raped by women at comparable rates of women being raped by men.). So again, your wrong. Also full of shit. Considering that in the west its practically unheard of to be raped or molested (statistical life time chance, if we presume that every age bracket is equally likely to suffer it, every region, and every individual person and their decisions (all of which isn't true) you would have a life time chance of 3%. Thats less then your chances of dying in a car acccident.). Having been raped myself, I'd appreciate it if you stopped being a shitty sexist person and using other peoples suffering as a way to justify your own hate, sexism, and self loathing. Shit happens, doesn't mean its an entire group (by your reasoning your a sociopathic, pedophilic attempted child murderer because my mother was one so you must be too because after all you share the same genitalia so you are equally responsible for HER crimes.). Suck it up princess, shit happens doesn't mean you blame every man in the world for what one did. Stop being weak and pathetic and learn to grow up instead of wallowing in fear and self pity.
STEREOTYPE: "A stereotype is a mistaken idea or belief many people have about a thing or group that is based upon how they look on the outside, which may be untrue or only partly true. Stereotyping people is a type of prejudice because what is on the outside is a small part of who a person is." You probably don't realize you are stereotyping men. But I realize this isn't the issue.
Not all men cheat and there are happy and healthy relationships out there. Why does a woman marry a man who cheats? I believe a better question is, "Why does a woman stay with a man after she discovers he cheats?" She might be in a financially dependent relationship and can't leave him.
This is absolutely not true at all. I'm assuming your opinion is purely anecdotal, and for that I feel truly sorry for you, but not all men are that way. There are good men out there who honestly believe in monogamy and have solid morals and ethics that would most certainly prevent them from cheating regardless of the options available.
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Bet you a shit tone of money that most guys your age consider you too old for them, cause you’re not 18.
Lol, also not true, so I'd take that bet. Why are you so jaded? Trust me, I understand the feeling, but understanding the feeling doesn't make it true. There are simply a lot of shitty people out there, but that doesn't mean all are shitty. Work to surround yourself with good people.
A lot of guys like older women. I used to hit on my teachers and advisors. All of them are older than me and if I have the chance I will still hit on them. Lol
So I guess your advice to us girls, would be to become lesbians right? Yea no way 😂 just because men cheat more than women doesn't make women any better. Let's not forget that there are women who date or go to the extremes to marry a man for his money, break his heart then dump him. There are women who have perfect and loyal man yet they have the guts to cheat on the man with their best friends etc. There are women that have their marriage ring on at home but as soon as they live the house they're single and searching and will open their legs for any rich man on the block. Women are just as wicked as men. So if you become lesbian and marry a woman there's still a possibility she could cheat. Therefore your question is extremely intellectually dishonest and manipulative. Saying all men cheat is like saying all women have flat butts. In conclusion, loyal women and men exist, even though they're rare.
You're so silly. If you can't keep your man then don't marry. Period.
Some fun stats... 75% of long term couples endure some kind of infidelity. About 15% of those where one cheats, survives, even grows stronger. The rest implode. Cheating is pretty well split 50-50 by gender, but women are better liars so the stats are skewed to men. 75% of divorces are initiated by women. Men will tend to hang in there just hoping things will get better. People cheat for all kinds of reasons, but primarily there is something they are missing in their main relationship. So while you cannot blame the victim of cheating, there is nearly always culpability for failures in the relationship.
The bottom line is that happy couples in love don't cheat. Do you have any idea how to keep a man locked to you? Any clue at all? It's really very simple if you understand it. If you don't, or can't, or won't, he'll surely wander off looking for it.
1st, not all men cheat. I have been around the block more than my share and I spent quite a bit of time looking for a long term partner that eventually became my wife.
I considered many, many factors when dating women, things like:
- Body - Face - Generosity - Kindness - Compassion - Her respect for who I currently am - Acceptance of my friends - etc...
All this to say that for me cheating is a gamble that I cannot take.
As far as women that date men who are in relationships or even married, that's the scum of the earth. If for some reason there is a committed man that this woman falls in love with she should tape her legs together with duck tape until she see's divorce papers. No excuses!
A man is likely to cheat if he was playing before. Like, don't expect to have a committed relationship with someone you meet at a bar or on tinder for a hookup because they are only looking for sex and once sex gets borning they will move on and this also goes for men. Find a man in someplace where quality people are like a church or library or whatever and then don't make the relationship about sex because if you guys get along without sex the chances are you will stay together longer and not cheat.
Sixty-ninth opinion of fellas! Yeah, alright! Position 69! You are the yin to my yang!
All the nom noms of each other just appreciated with mouth hugs. Good going.
Anyways, there are a pathological small minority for any human sin. For cheating, the action itself is a symptom of unaddressed disruption in the relationship. Example: When a man/woman starts to get lazy, unmotivated, overweight and they can't be relied on to find the actionable drive for change: The partner is probably going to get subjectively abusive, cheat, or leave.
You want commitment? Don't pick petty, shallow douches. Command your legitimate individual empowerment.
As said before, unaddressed disruption is the precursor to cheating. Dedicated love and affection can be an enabling factor for self-sabotaging people. Vitamin L is not what people need to change themselves. Love is really to be enjoyed in a period of personal proportional equilibrium.
When it comes to interacting with people on a deep level, you will get back what you give. If you go into a relationship, even dating with that mindset. You will get the same mindset back. This also goes beyond sex. Because if a man goes into a relationship with that mindset, he will get it back. Also there is some truth to this kind of mindset pushing people towards taking negative action. Because negativity breeds negativity.
Lastly as humans we are more deeper connected then most think. You might not be outright saying this to someone or have negative no verbal communication, a person will still on some level pick up on it. So if you go into a relationship with such a mindset, you will be broadcasting it without even realizing it. So you will be creating negativity from the start.
That question is way too loaded to dignify with a serious response. And if you really believe women cheat less than men, then oohhhhh boyyy are you closing your eyes to reality. And even the consequences are different. A girl gets cheated on, her friends support her and offer to set her up with new guys. A guy gets cheated on, then "it must be coz he's a loser or mistreated her or didn't meet her needs", so it's made out to be all his fault. No wonder more men commit suicide after getting cheated on than women.
You apparently know nothing of loyalty , trust, service, and enduring love that last decades, towards a woman of their choice and that they intend to be life long. You are young. You are surrounded by young people, and their ideologies and whims. You are quick to criticise men because it's fashionable for women at the moment. You are slow to embrace any kind of introspection because it's fashionable for women at the moment. You will mature. And so will the people around you. Define a better world by example of your behaviour.
By that time it will be too late her looks will have faded and she will become a bitter old hag with a house full of cat babies to cope with the fact that she was such a bitch that no man ever wanted her and she never had children.
Looks like you have some real false assumptions about men. Amazing that you don't want to talk about women cheating? Why? Because many men who cheat are cheating with a woman that knows they're cheating. What does that say about your fellow ladies, eh?
There are many reasons why people engage in infidelity. And you're in no position to question other people's business. So I won't sit idle and let you generalize me and how I go about living my life and taking care of my wife and family. Grow up!
Marriage is a religious construct many do not care for. I personally have no issue being with 1 person forever. But I will also never marry anyone. The divorce rate is high and only gets higher.
People in open relationships generally have successful relationships as long as both are aware of the situation and at the end of the day you are still coming home to each other and not someone else. The fact that people categorize sex as having to be mandatory with a single person for a successful marriage is attrocious.
Its human nature to be polygamous. It only changed cause someone wrote a book saying otherwise. Back in the day we were all polygamous.
I honestly dont like questions like these. I've had many friends where both men and women cheat. Almost every time the man cheats its, "oh shame on him"
When the woman cheat,"oh well her boyfriend must've not been treating her right"
If someone is unhappy to the extent where they feel they want to seek intimacy by someone else then the relationship was already out the door. If someone's feelings get hurt then they must've had been blinded by something else for nothing seeing the failing relationship right in front of them.
Okay, for one. Not all of us cheat. Two, quit with the feminist way of view cause honestly men and women yes should be treated as equals but either gender doesn't top the other. And three, the people who cheat do it because they don't give a shit, it's the same thing with women when they cheat. They don't care. I mean, sure there could be a "valid reason" but it's still bad. And for the last and final thing, you want to say men cheat more than women, sure but I'm pretty sure it's equal to each other, and I'm pretty sure that women are better at hiding it considering even if some guys are smart, we're still pretty fucking dumb okay
You have an interesting opinion. Maybe it is genetic. My father, my grandfathers, my self, and my brother have all been loyal and when given the opportunity did not have sex outside of their relationships. Maybe we just have that gene, which may also explain why our families are small, we married late, or not at all.
It's hard to say who cheats more. Women are usually smarter about it, and men will even go as far as to say that they did when they didn't, while women will more often say they didn't when they did. They'll even believe it, too.
But it could well be genetic. Some people just don't feel right in monogamy. If both are starting their own LTR together, and haven't had any previous partners, it's a lot more likely to work out without any cheating happening.
It does not matter who cheats more and who cheats less because their are both guys and women that cheat. You need to take a look at yourself because the more you et cheated on the more likely you are doing something to attract those types of guys. I had a woman who I have seen at places I have been come up to me wanting to be with me and wanted to have sex with me. I turned her down and then she goes but look at how much better looking I am than that hideous fat old looking bitch you're with. I got irrate with her. Another woman tried to get me to leave to go have sex with her even though I told her I am happily taken and my girlfriend was next to me. I turned her down which got her upset and yelling things about how much better she is than my girlfriend is but we kept on walking away. With that said yes there are good guys in this world. There ate good guys who are single and attracted to women but I suggest taking time to work on yourself.
There is so much wrong with what you said... Let me try to go over everything. 1. Actually according to statistics men do cheat more. 2. Girls having a easier time having sex is the fault of thirsty guys. Blame stupid guys for being stupid and going after everything with a vagina. 3. Like I said before only stupid guys can't control themselves. I never had any problem getting girls and I am maried. 4. Men are not wiered to spread our seed around without any discernment. Also I really REALLY doubt that you are a girl. 5."biologically programmed to be polygamous" this is bullshit. Also I had chances to cheat before and I didn't do it. Guys who do it are pieces of shit!
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