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Everyone is different, so there is no way to generalize.
When it comes to physical looks, I think it depends on a number of factors. Mainly:
- A person's goals and values. Are they just interested in sex? Starting a family? An emotional/intellectual connection for a committed, long-term relationship?
- Age. Young people tend to be attracted to young people. I can't see them being into wrinkles or gray hair. And guys who are interested in starting families wouldn't be, either, because youthful-looking women signal fertility. But, age aside, when it comes to facial features and body shape, again, different guys have different tastes. And a lot of guys truly DO value emotional/intellectual connection more than physical appearance.
Up past my mid-20s, my physical ideal was girls who 'looked' like they were in high school, not that I wanted to date high school girls once I had left high school, myself. I'll give an example. I went to a concourse d'elegance car show in Laguna Beach with a friend whose dad had entered a car in the competition. There were going to be Playboy bunnies there and I was excited to see them because I subscribed to Playboy and thought the girls in the photos represented the ideal female form. At the show, we went over to where the bunnies in their costumes were doing meet and greet. I was surprised to find that I thought they were, I don't know, ... fat, too filled out, too curvy. Isn't that weird? So that goes to show what image I had in my mind for the ideal woman. I was still into girls.
Once I was in my 30s and in an environment where I was meeting grown women, my tastes changed. THAT is the point where I would have thought those Playboy bunnies were prime. They were.
Guys are genetically programmed to find the appearance of youthful women attractive. They can appreciate the blush of youth, but they appreciate the female form in general. Mature men find full grown women just as appealing, and sometimes more so. And grown women appreciate grown men and have the extra advantage of, shall we say... expertise? Hahaha
And beyond that, there is emotional and intellectual maturity that makes people very attractive.
Compliment time. A few extra pounds, a few fewer pounds, you're blessed with a really nice shape. That random guy you mentioned the other day who told you that you were beautiful wasn't kidding. You look fine.
Ever consider putting on a Playboy costume? Mmmm, I'm picturing it right now.
😎😜 Hahaha
Good points... If just looking for a fling, but to base a lifetime relationship off just looks won't last long term, which maybe Iis why more relationships don't Last there days...
But thanks for the compliments.. And bunny costumeπ€
Like this:
https://youtu.be/TGsFDFptNCs
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@Brainsbeforebeauty Au contraire... If it was just a fling, looks wouldn't matter as much. If you're getting into an LTR, you want someone who is absolutely stunning now. That way you know they will still be at least moderately good looking 30 years down the road.
I agree with Jamie to an extent. I have standards of appearance for any partner. They don't have to be stunning. But they have to be attractive to me.
When it comes to a life partner, I agree with bbb. I have no respect for someone who would trade an awesome partner for a newer model as they age. It doesn't get more shallow than that. That's like abandoning your partner if they get ill or get disfigured in an accident. It's despicable.
I know people in their 80s who've been married since their 20s. They're still madly in love. Do either of them look great? Hell no. But they are as beautiful and handsome to each other as the day they fell in love. That's what I want.
"When it comes to a life partner, I agree with bbb. I have no respect for someone who would trade an awesome partner for a newer model as they age. It doesn't get more shallow than that. That's like abandoning your partner if they get ill or get disfigured in an accident. It's despicable.". I agree with this 100%. I didn't know that was what @Brainsbeforebeauty was saying.
@Brainsbeforebeauty damn you wrote this well indeed, it is funny how people do Love going for looks over a loyal, caring, loving n understanding person.
And those who tend to go for the physical appearance there relationships end up being a total mess. since they never married a person who is the friend or that person who connects with them well.
But I liked you in the first pic rocking those shorts 👍👍
Thank you π and thanks lol although I'm more the second pic now π€·πΌββοΈ
@Brainsbeforebeauty thanks for the awesome sweet educative post as well as for the vote MHO.
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Well well so you have been on here but quiet. TELL me how your doing todAy dear brains?
Don't feel good π
What is going not well today on your side dear?
I'm not a doctor so don't know just don't feel right today...
Because people are superficial and want to have a "hot" partner.
I use the term hot loosely because what one person considers hot, maybe average or ugly to another.
Yet they don't realize, or want to accept, that one day those looks will fade. And if you choose someone purely on looks and not their personality, intelligence, or inner beauty?
You're gonna be sad, miserable, and alone, even though you're in a relationship...
I'm speaking from experience as I've had guys flat out reject me based in my appearance (and another reason I no longer use dating apps or post my picture online). They would love my personality, talking to me, said how great I was... until they saw my picture. Then poof! They either lost interest or ghosted me. Every single time.
That nonsense really screws with your self esteem and confidence. But I digress...
Ironically, some of you same people that are superficial, are the main ones that can't find a partner!!! I wonder why...
On a sidenote, you look good girl! I wish I had the confidence you do! Come down here and exercise with me...
Exactly!! Well said as usual π whether I get back to the size I was last year or not, it's still the same silly sometimes sarcastic somewhat lovable me π€ͺππ€£
I'd probably rather exercise with you than my daughter half my age, twice my energy and flexibility π± killing an old lady π
Well come on over! Today I'm doing an hour of strength training (upper, lower body, and abs). Followed up with some jump rope for cardio-
Afterwards we can grab some pancakes as a reward for our suffering :)
Pancakes sound good.. Jumping rope, I might wind up with two black eyes π±
I'm almost afraid to ask, but I'm going to anyway- how do you get black eyes from jumping rope? Worse thing that happens to me is my "whip" myself with the rope... that crap hurts!
The boobs πππ
LOL!!! I forgot about that.
Noo, you just need a good, supportive bra that holds the girls in! Trust me, I know. If you find a tight sports bra- nothing moves!
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These are the easily brainwashed.
They watch movies where the coolest characters on tv are sexy or dating sexy people so they easily brainwashed minds go this is how i want to be, da shit like them.
They let the media tell them what to do how to choose partners how to vote.
How to see other races, what to eat how to see sexual orientation, how to vote, how to judge genders actions.
Media knows using propaganda works.
Look at politics. Ads don't tell people that if u vote for me i plan to do this or that to make America better.
Instead they use fear tactics of if u vote for my evil opponent America will be ruined and people panic.
Get outta my head π€£π€£ no really tho, you're not saying anything I don't think myself... You're wise for your age when you get to my age, you gonna be a force to reckon with, cuz you already more wise than some people twice your age πππ
Good comment , too many sheeple that do not think for themselves !!
Lol. thanks.
I'm believe myself a force to reckon with alreadyπ
But seriously itz why i chose journalism as my study.
Of course 1st option is 2 go pro. But I'm not getting any options yet.
But if it doesn't work out i will be able to at least cover track.
If i can't compete i can cover it and hopefully give a refreshingly honest unsolicited commentary on society at the sametime if god wills itππΎ
So you a track star πππ
Yes!! Always be proud of your accomplishments... No matter what you do in life, I'm sure you'll go far, achieve great things ππ
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So very beautiful and so right everyone and everything changes , I love beautiful people not from the out side, but from the inside out when is was almost 17 I went out with older women I never looked at the from an age point of view I looked at then on who they were what they were all about I have had chances to date beautiful women. Most of them I didn't,, because they were only beautiful on the out side. And the ones who were and still are BEAUTIFUL on the inside mmm yes I did I've always wondered why people just think the person they see is who they are. ,, I work with younger people and my friends are always to to hook me up with some one and things I have learned is that like me looking st color I don't see see it I have dated younger girls so smart so beautiful on the indide they never seen age they just seen me and I love thst. Because there always some one the same age as the girl I dated and they only see the out side and thats ok to there's nothing wrong with that that's who they are I've always wondered or have said how would it be if we were all blind. I believe our world would be so different
"I've always wondered or have said how would it be if we were all blind. I believe our world would be so different"...
So true there
I didn't know that miss brains is doing some modelling in her bedroom 😄
Anyways your bed is good but mine is bigger, it can fit me with miss brains and the muffins are the barriers and i'll eat the barrier to reach miss brains muffins 😂😂
Now my answer to your question is that people especially men are always tempted by looks, because the majority wants only sex, a smart man will search for a woman who adores him and makes him happy all the time...
I'll always choose the average girl who loves me from all heart forever instead of a top model who makes my life a living hell...
Anyways miss brains, you got the brains and the looks and the delicious muffins and meals which makes a real QUEEN 😌
I can hardly believe that your 48 but i like your decent outfit 😊
Where the bottle of mineral water next to the bed miss brains, what will happen if someone wakes up in the middle of the night thristy 😤, always keep a bottle of water next to the bed in case someone get thirsty, especially in winter, who wants to go out from the bed in the cold 😁
I'll keep the muffins in the drawer next to me 😋🧁
πππ funny lolol
Seriously tho, you have it right, look for the one that loves and cherishes you and love and cherish them ππ
Miss brains do you know why your special, it's because your rare and unique, you live your life like your someone casual while you aren't...
You must become a role model for teenage girls π
No wonder why your late husband loved you a lot cause who wouldn't, i'm sure he still loves you from where he is, may he rip...
A queen ain't only a rich woman who have authority, money and a crown on her head, a REAL QUEEN is a lady like you πΈπΌ
Thank you... Your words almost brought me to tears ππ
Don't cry sweet miss brains muffins, your tears are very precious, if you cry than i have to go and buy you natural juice to replace those tears with vitamins π
Your heart miss brains is big and priceless and i'll make sure to keep miss brains heart beats for 1000 years π
Thanks ππ
You welcome sweet miss brains π
as for the meme alluding to why one should not be so vain, a persons heart (used in the context that the meme uses it) can change too... and usually does. we need to change our desires if we want to stay connected with that heart... but it may be our own heart that changes and we may fall out of love... so in keeping with the reasoning of it, why should we try to love at all?
beauty is what catches our eye, and we gravitate towards it... the inner beauty can't be seen or heard until there is quite a bit more than a passing interaction, so its seldom seen, where as the physical beauty can be seen at a distance.
even a lot of other animals have a preference who they mate with, so it isn't just a human trait, but a fact of life that we like what is pleasant to our eyes...
not all outwardly "attractive" people have a mate, because some of them have no inner beauty to offer, and some very kind, generous and thoughtful people with amazing inner beauty have no mate because tno one is attracted to them on that alone... which leads me to understand that it takes both inner and outer beauty to be attractive enough to someone...
AND, we ALL see things through different eyes and individually, we can each see different forms of beauty in different places... so again, its not a simple thing to say that we shouldn't judge what we like only by whats in our heart... because that is NOT all that matters.
and STILL there is more to it... the mental attitude and stability, and someones personality has a lot to do with it after two people get to know each other...
so its a dynamic thing that is always changing, and it can't be said that a better understanding would make it better for anyone... i think a more accepting attitude could make it better for everyone world wide, but not necessarily make an extremely ugly or homely person be able to find a mate...
Its biological. Looks are said to be a sign of fertility. Women who are young and "hot" are more likely to have healthier eggs which makes for genetically healthier offspring. Same goes for men and their sperm. As they age, Women not only start to lose their eggs but their eggs also become more and more unhealthy for offspring. Our biology somehow has wired us on a subconscious level to seek out the most genetically healthy (looking) mate.
Im guessing you think we should pick mates based off of personality. But what biological imperative does that serve? In my opinion, personality is too malleable. It doesn't really indicate anything. You see, anybody can act a certain way. How is at all condusive to producing the most genetically healthy offspring possible? Maybe when it comes to actually raising the child, but if the child has bad genetics, theoretically speaking it won't have as good of a chance of surviving/thriving in the world compared to a genetically healthy offspring. Just my opinion.
Not gonna simp but you are looking good. I can patch in your face in those photos and now I know how you look :D
So those emojis covering your face are as useful to you as me tryna getting a girlfriend while I am not having any money on me.
For some people looks is all they care about. You see them chasing after the looks and ignoring the warning signs (single mother, baggage from previous exes, crazy psycho, abuses).
Yes, for some they lack self control and be dictated by their dick and "oh the pussy is so good" - if you know what I mean.
π€£ the emojis aren't not trying to hide people from knowing what my face looks like.. More someone couldn't take those pics from here and put them somewhere else with my face available/visible...
And good points, but also the point if you pass someone up just cuz they 20-30 lbs. Overweight, what happens then when they lose that weight and look really hot,... Now you attracted, but you lost that shot by being shallow
True that.
by the way. You asked me for my theme song before? I found it. Perfect!
https://youtu.be/oXMcxaRR0TY
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Biology. People are attracted to physically attractive, people; both genders!
There is a consciously unknown, biologically-oriented drive to like the one of the species, that are the most attractive, the strongest, the ones that seem the best, sexiest, and to be drawn to those.
It is human biology, and many suppress that, and society seems to walk a fine line between the innate Biological desire and attraction, and the 'Socially acceptable' way.
The 'Reptilian' basal, primal brain, where sexuality, and physical desires are based, is focused on species survival.
Modern people, can consciously choose not to fall back to basal, sexual desires, and they can choose to focus on the higher, Mammalian Brain, that allows for relationships, emotions, love, family and monogamy.
But sometimes, some slip. . .
Aw hun you have nothing to worry about you look great in both pics :) it looks like you filled out in the second, or is that just the dress you wore first, but either way you look good.
As for the looks I wouldn't go solely for looks but you do need to attracted to some extent I've tried on three or four occasions to be with a guy who I didn't like the look of and one of them was sweet as pie, but I just felt like shit and like I was using him and the others I just felt gross about. So while I agree don't just replace the partner with a newer model or base a relationship on lust, there does need to be some lust or the relationship is just lustbuster (if that's the word I'm going for)
I think part of it is experiencing youth and getting ready to settle into old age...
But beauty is on the inside.
I think there is a reason why we age...
It's time for the next season of our lives.
Each decade says something about us by the way we look.
Each decade leading towards maturity.
To me, aging is just moving with the seasons of life
Great answer!!!
Why Do People Still Not Understand Why You Shouldn't Go By Physical Looks?
If you had added the word "alone," I could get on board with the spirit of this question.
Physical looks matter, and I don't just mean in the initial attraction. Looks are very often the difference between physical affection that is wonderful and physical affection that is a chore; something to be avoided. Of course looks fade or change. But it is supremely important to have *enjoyed* physical affection in order to bond.
This is indeed absolutely positively not fair. But it's very difficult to counter 2 million years of human evolution.
Indeed looks aren't everything. However let's not pretend they are nothing.
But when you can't have sex anyway when you get old or if you suffer severe illness or injury? Does it really matter then π€
Yes, it does.
Without the bond of enjoyable sex and physical affection, you're unlikely to reach old age together in the first place. *Enjoyable* sex is the strongest glue. Ask any divorce lawyer. And as one who was in a relationship with both someone I was very physically attracted to and someone I was very not physically attracted to, it had am immeasurable impact on the sex, kissing, and cuddling. Night and day isn't sufficient to describe it. More like heaven and hell.
My parents were very physically attracted to each other. My mom often was compared with Natalie Wood. When their marriage ended with my father's death at the age of 81, I can assure you they were both wrinkly, sagging, and overweight. But their years of gazing longingly at each other (which was a phase that lasted decades), of enjoying sex and not avoiding it, of being in each other's arms admiring each other's beauty and *not* avoiding each other's gaze, was a HUGE factor that brought them to the end of the marriage. As important as my mother's admiration for my dad's genius and my father's admiration for my mom's compassion.
This is why I reject the looks fade argument. Skipping ahead to the 30th anniversary from the start appeals to virtually no one.
I want to make this very clear. By the time I said "I do," it wouldn't have mattered if someone took a blow torch to my wife's face (though I swear to God I would kill that person with my own hands), I would have happily married her.
But it was *critical* in the first year to bond. Much of our bonding was through physical affection that we enjoyed. Very much. Physical affection is the *only* thing that separates romantic love from friendship. And our physical attraction for one another is a BIG factor in making it enjoyable (though not the only one).
I am the first to admit that to many, this is supremely unfair. I feel for these people. I've held them in my arms as they sobbed over being rejected by someone for their appearance, or how they were not able to find someone they found physically attractive. I assure you it's heart breaking.
But I cannot alter reality. There are reasons why we find people physically attractive that have been drilled into virtually every one of the seven billion of us who walk the earth.
It's unreasonable to expect people to simply overlook 2 million years of evolution. Unrealistic, too. This is why I long to see an end to the use of the words "shallow" and "superficial" to describe something that is altogether part and parcel of being human, no matter how sad and unfair it is for some.
I strongly suspect the reason many adhere to the looks don't matter philosophy is that the truth is mercilessly unfair.
Attraction is important, Iβll give them that. But looks are definitely not everything. Iβve recently been in a situation with two guys I liked, one was average, one was my EXACT type and handsome. I picked the average guy. Why? Because we just automatically clicked, and Iβve never had a connection like that before. Looks donβt matter when your soul connects with someone elses. Peace and love.
Exactly... Couldn't of said it better
I think its because maybe the average guy doesn't make you feel insecure about your physical appearance while the handsome guy probably did. The handsome guy probably intimidated you as well. A lot of insecure girls will date these average guys not because they're actual attracted to them but for emotional security. They know the average looking guy is less likely to cheat on them because of his lack of options and more likely to worship her for that same reason. He also tends to be less demanding in the bedroom.
@Louistruman19 not true, it's cuz the looks don't matter if the guy is a liar or a loser or a drunk or can't keep a job...
You make it like not wanting to date someone just based off looks is more about insecurities when it's more about that person and them being MORE than just good looks...
Speak for yourself. Jeremy meeks literally was a gang member and went to prison for illegal firearms possession. He was the litteral definition of a loser. Female billionaires bailed this dude out of prison just so they could marry him because of his looks.
Richard Ramirez was a serial killer but because of his looks he had women flocking towards him. There are plenty of other goodlooking jobless losers who live in their moms basement who have women flocking towards them.
Looks seem to be biologically hardwired for desirability over pretty much every other aspect a man has overwhelmingly. Just my opinion. If you truly disagree, could you please explain why guys like Jeremy meeks have so much success with women despite their bad personalities?
@Louistruman19 because there's dumb females just like there's dumb males that go for the gold diggers, the user females, the cheaters... Read the question.. I didn't say people DON'T go by looks.. I said they SHOULDN'T... And everything you just mentioned just shows my point π€·πΌββοΈπ€·πΌββοΈ
I never said that you said women don't go by looks.
@Louistruman19 no I did not... Slow me where I said that?
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Attraction is a big deal. I tried to like someone based off other things aside from looks and i just couldnt stay interested in them romantically. Friendship wise sure but who cares to have friends these days 🤷ββοΈ Now i am fine with someone starting off looking good and getting less attractive because we got older. Thats fair. But becoming unattractive due to weight gain for example and not wanting to fix it can eventually become a turnoff/dealbreaker.
But weight gain isn't always about laziness... Sometimes health factors, pregnancy (not everyone takes the baby weight off), menopause can cause weight gain, etc...
I dont blame pregnancy and stuff. Im talking about my lazy ass second ex who talked me out of exercising because he didn't want to join in. He just wanted to game 6 hours a day and gain more weight
So whilst I may come across as an incredibly intelligent, articulate and humorous guy the reality is that deep down I'm a happy go lucky idiot that finds himself in situations that a sitcom would reject for being unrealistic , so for the time being I require people to give me the benefit of the doubt based on my Physical looks (I mean they are deteriorating at a rapid rate as each day passes so this is not a long term plan!) lol
Lololol
It's pretty impressive to see you still have the same sunglasses. Think I've lost or broken 2 or 3 during that timeframe lol :)
Very well said here Toots and it's the absolute truth so people really do need to understand that.
P. S. I think you look great in both pics :)
Okay I'm gonna admit to either a dumb blonde moment it senior moment or blonde senior moment but shh π€« gotta promise not to tell noone π€ for a minute I was thinking sunglasses, what sunglasses? I didn't have any glasses on in either of those pics π€£π€£π€£ but then ππ duh π€¦ lololol
But thanks for the compliment tho trying to get more back to last year's weight but π€·πΌββοΈ
Not too funny seem to be having more and more of those
lol if make you feel any better... last night... sitting on couch doing some work on laptop... note pad next to me... go to write something down... to all hell can't find the pen I had with me... don't want to get up so rifle hands down couch cushions and under me and just when I was about to get up to get another one... I found out... I had it all along in between my teeth... true story... I laughed :)
ππ been there done that
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They say "will you eat a fruit that is rotten just to see that is it okay from inside?".
I also said what if the beautiful and fresh fruit is poisonous? They said "then spit out that fruit if it has a worm inside."
Nowadays people want both good looks and good personality.
But the point is the good looks can change... The personally, the character of the person, not as much. .. so if you put too much importance in just looks? And looks don't always just change for the worse, sometimes they change for the better.. But those they went by looks alone, might of passed up something good they could of had by being shallow
In my case I chose the ugly one and he lied to me so much then I dumped him forever. Personality is more impressive according to me. I had a CRUSH ON A REALLY HOT GUY but then I TESTED him before proposing him, he wasn't my type at all so I controlled my self like hell and stayed far away.
Because they are very very very superficially generally I stop noticing peoples looks really quickly it`s their personalities which keep me interested. trust if your pretty and pain in the arse the thought this person is a pain in the arse will win every time
Right! That's exactly the point. And people can look better over time it look worse over time, π€·πΌββοΈ but ugly inside usually don't so I don't care how "good" someone look on the outside, cuz I've known some really goodlooking guys that were complete assholes so if yeah no thank you... And neither of my hubbies were what others might have deemed attractive but too me they were cuz of the love I had
π€£π€£ love your modesty πππ
Because you do need to feel attracted to someone when you are dating them.
And there's nothing wrong with that, you can't force yourself to feel attracted to someone while you're just not.
It's just wrong when you're so blinded by someone's looks that you don't see how bad they treat you or just how shitty they are as a person in general.
Looks will always play a part sure picking someone on looks aline is stupid but you can't argue the fact that looks play a part if attraction was only based on personality we would all be bi as the looks would be irrelevant
So when the looks change then, stop loving them or trade them in, and what about when it's your looks that change, do you want to be traded in π€
Yes I did.. Did you read mine.. I was asking you a question... so are you going to lose the attraction then, when their looks change from what originally attracted you?
No because again I love her both looks and personality plus we will both change i have not illusion that she won't look as good as she does now when she is old same for me but thats how loving someone long term is I ready everything u said and again if your partner turned around tommorw and simply said I have never been attracted to how you look you would be happy with that?
Ha he kinda did not in the way, just more I knew I wasn't really the type he normally went for, blondes (I'm blonde) not a boob man (even tho have always had bigger boobs) But I understood, cuz he wasn't the type I normally went for either... But obviously we both had the real thing or it wouldn't of lasted 20 years π€·πΌββοΈ and would of been 27 if he hadn't died 7 years ago.. but see, if I or him had went JUST by the physical, look at all we would of gave up just for what, looks?
No he was attracted to my mind and my personally and my strength for what I had been through in life, looks not so much.
Well there I agree ππ
We have biochemical responses to different triggers our senses experience. It is automatic, so not within our control. We have no control over our feelings, but we do have control over how we act on these feelings. Everyone knows there will be changes as we age, but the biochemical responses don't consider the future.
Many people legitimize changes. I can't tell you how many times I've heard women say it is perfectly normal for women to get fat as they age. Men get fat if they don't consider their consumption and metabolism when making their choices, also. Rather than saying, "If you loved me, you'd accept me as I am," ask yourself if you are putting forth the same effort in the areas important to your partner as you'd like your partner to put forth in the areas important to you. The effort is more important than the results. Some things are truly out of our control, but don't use that as an excuse to ignore what is within your control.
because they are still young and think that such shallow measures of other people are most important... you can't tell them otherwise but when they get older they will learn what we meant by this themselves
Well said and very true if you not only read the threads but look at the age! You get it!!
Great answer!!π
I meant the threads prove you're right lolol I get physical attraction but people don't get once you see people past their appearance that can grow just like love... And also didn't get the point that weight can change, just cuz someone overweight now, don't mean they always will be, and just cuz they skinny now, don't mean they always will be... I've been skinny, fat, big boobs, bigger boobs, etc... But my personally and character are always me...
Exactly!!! I loved my second hubby with all my heart... But the physical attraction wasn't there from the start, it grew from the love and attraction of his personality, his character, his strength,
Exactly... By no means perfect cuz no relationship is, but when the shit hit the fan, we always had each other's back and took care of one another like it's supposed to be... I think had he not been sick, had we not had all the stresses that came with that, we would of had an even better relationship
Physical looks do matter a bit, for example I won't date a girl that is overweight or has done stuff to her body (tattoos, piercings etc.)
It's just personal preference really, it's not a bad thing to want an attractive girl/guy, I don't really care about that myself but I see why people do want that
The point is it can't be just that and looks can and do change
Yeah I fully agree, personality does matter more but physical looks do matter as well even if not that much
All is true about aging. But when you love the person, all those changes either do not matter, or make you like them more. By the way, I find your bod to be very hot in all the photos.
Very true... And some people looks can change for the better... That's what I was trying to point out as well that people still aren't getting.. I gained a lot of weight when my back went out, my hubby never made me feel bad for it, but I took it off before I'd let them give me back surgery back in 06... I get physical attraction but if you love someone that attraction can be more than mere physical
I know some people just go by looks cause they want some Prince or Princess and people got to realize that life is too short to judge one based on what they look like looks are in the eyes of the beholder
Exactly!! Well said!!
@Brainsbeforebeauty Thank you !!!
Probably because looks are usually what attract us from the beginning but as we all know that same hot person can become ugly as soon as they open thier mouth
Exactly
Yeah, no thanks.
I fell for someone who cares about how they look like, if they stop caring how they look like, they stop being the person I fell for.
It's as simple as that.
Would you say the same BS about someone who would become and alcoholic or a drug addict, that they are the same "them" that they always were?
Aging happens...
Illness can happen. .
Accidents/scars can happen..
Comparing based on looks verses drug addicts like wth that didn't make any sense π€£π€£
None of those things are getting fat, though.
The difference in these pictures is that you have gotten heavier.
That's not an accident, it's the result of your laziness and negligence, you've adopted negative behaviors.
You can't expect to not be judged for those.
Sure, I would keep dating my partner if 40% of their body got burned by accident, but they are totally becoming single if they think they can just turn lazy and unkempt and not care about how they look like.
Haha presume much, the weight difference happened when couldn't work it exercise because of shoulder injury, and I exercise every day so there goes your lazy theory π€£
But that's my point... So what happens if your wife had a baby and the baby weight don't disappear overnight? Or she gains weight cuz of health issues? Or what if you do, should your partner trade you in then π€
Oh and where an I getting judged negatively.. I haven't been... I'm not single cuz I couldn't attract someone.. I'm single cuz my husband died 7 years ago... And I rather be single than deal with the kind of bullshit people call relationships these days... And if you would divorce someone over their weight, you call that love? Okay π€·πΌββοΈ
I don't understand it either mam, their is an old saying that 'that you should not judge the book by it's cover' but still people look for physical features than the nature.
You said it there!!ππ
Thank you ππ
They arre to shallow Obviously not looking for longterm Looks will fade But they don't loose there personality they stay the person they are
EXACTLY!!
It's natural instinct , you can't blame them for wanting a certain type of physical appearance
But it becomes a problem only when you get consumed by it.
I have seen a lot relationships fail , because their weren't sexually and physically compatible.
There is no doubt that physical appearance is important but your right it shouldn't the prime objective when finding a partner
Ignorance and hopes that only looks will solve and keep all the reproductional values and "problems". Too high hopes and blindsided faith that looks is the most important and only attracting thing in a person. If you are that horny just masturbate.
π right lolol But I agree, stop judging by looks, go by the personality, character, heart and soul...
The drive to go for partners with good physical looks is a biologically ingrained instinct which is necessary for the long term survival of our bloodline.
Our brains roughly judge someone's physical health and general prosperity subconsciously. This judgment manifests as physical attraction.
The your brain wants you to reproduce with attractive people as those people in general will likely provide your offspring the highest chance of reproduction.
I'm not saying personality doesn't matter. Or even that looks are the most important thing. I'm saying that physical attraction is and should be a valid consideration in seeking a life partner.
Looks personality>looks or personality
while physical looks can be and are a deal-breaker for a romantic relationship for me. It never prevents me from being friends with a woman. You need to be physically attracted to your partner. You also need to be able to have an emotional connection. If you were born unattractive, then... I'm sorry. Luck of the genetic draw, but I think it's important to know what league your in. Yes, leagues are real, and they suck, but if you're pissed that you don't get to date the more attractive guys, then I would say your guilty of the same thing your accusing others of.
I see why you get hit on all the time. i make no apologies for finding you hot (I knew you were, by the way)!
itβs because itβs the first thing we generally see and know about a person. I personally think itβs all about the Selfish Gene in action.
The point is guys who like curvier women might reject the person in first pic, but guys prefer skinnier would reject the person in the second pic... Although it's the SAME person... π€·πΌββοΈ And have been both π€·πΌββοΈ but the core of who I am stays the same... By going by looks alone, don't know what you could be missing, that overweight person may not be in the future, and that skinny person may not stay skinny... But thanks for the compliment, although still trying to get back to the person in the first pic, for myself cuz I don't care if someone can't accept who I am in the second one π€·πΌββοΈ
Or die trying... Word to the wise.. Don't work out with someone half your age and twice as flexible π€£
Great points.
Looks "bring them in", but the heart "keeps them in" is a succinct explanation I heard once.
True, but sometimes even the person even without the looks, or the looks you're normally attracted to anyways
Yup.
People are stupid. I mean looks are nice but what does it matter if you don't get along with the person. Also maybe I'm weird. But I've known some girls who were less than goddesses but so awesome I ended up wanting them in a bad way
Sure, but itβs nice to enjoy beauty while weβre young.
But real beauty is more than just looks, well to me anyways... I don't care how attractive or hot a guy is.. If he an asshole he's ugly, if he's a liar, he's ugly
What defines real beauty is subjective. Of course personality and values need to align, but having a beautiful partner is a great perk. I personally wouldnβt date someone who I wasnβt attracted to physically.
Oh only if it were that easy, Then I will probably have a girlfriend someone who would always love me and be there for me instead of being alone constantly and continuously.
Looks matter substantially but so does whats inside as well just think about it would you really wanna spend the rest of your life with someone that is not attractive to you at all. When it comes to dating someone, they should both find each other at least some what attractive on the outside AND the inside. But the good part is everyone is attracted to different people so it works out perfectly
thats assuming we suck at evaluating visual data, ain't it? sum of us are better at it. beauty in the laugh lines, u know
in the smiles and laughs, the way they move their body, stir their drinks. the wrinkles on their brow from straining it, or even the way they walk -- shy or confident, or sumthing in between. the only problem 2 me is that people aren't paying real attention to the visual data. they are drawing inaccurate conclusions from it
One of my female acquaintances asked this once. I said that I agreed: you shouldn't judge anyone by looks. And that's why you should date Joe over there; he's smart and funny and is completely in love with you and would treat you really well. She turned her nose up because Joe is fat and ugly.
The End
Yeah just cuz your one "friend" was that way means must be the right way ππ okay thanks for sharing
Oh and this story sounds so familiar, like I've heard it before π€ Or do all guys user this story? ,ππ And notice how you just say women, men don't do this too? Pass up the good woman for the one with the hot body?π€
Struck a nerve, huh? I didn't just say women. I didn't say women at all. I was talking about one particular person who just happened to be a woman. This is about people. Everybody wants the best partner they can get in every category, but they don't want to put in the effort to be their best, themselves. And then they complain that they can't get the partner they want because they're not what that person wants in a partner. It's human nature. I tell men the same thing: improve yourself, and your options improve. It's that simple, and nowhere near as shallow as people make it out to be. If a woman isn't going to make an effort for herself, she's not gonna make an effort for me.
No you didn't strike a nerve... You just sounded like an asshat I knew that told that same exact story π€£π€£ must be a lot of Joe's running around π€£π€£ and everyone has flaws, it's about excepting people flaws and all, it's about being the best to one another... People looking for perfect, but perfect don't exist π€·πΌββοΈ
Its really not about that, though, is it? I can accept you as a person, a friend, whatever, no matter your flaws. That doesn't mean I'm obligated to date you even if I'm not physically attracted to you. It doesn't have anything to do with looking for "perfect"
Physical attraction don't last tho if that's all it is... If a beautiful woman or good looking guy are ugly on the inside, they'll stop looking so good on the outside, right? Attraction is important agreed, but just like love takes time to grow, so sometimes can attraction... Obviously there's people that you can be attracted to from the get go-but that attraction is based just on looks alone, right? Getting to know someone, the more you like them, or love them for who what they are as a person, the attraction can also grow cuz you're also attracted to their laugh, or sense of humor, or their intelligence, or their strength, or or...
Do you get what I mean... Some of the better looking guys I've met have been some of the ugliest people to me cuz past the looks, they weren't shit... And then the man I spent twenty years with might not have been the type I'd say normally attracted me but I fell for the person he was, the kind of man he was, the talent he had, the kind of father he was, and, and...
Funny I should ask out of all those saying physical is the most important how many are married or in a relationship verses divorced or single... Oh and online video only relationships wouldn't count π€£
I get what you mean. But it's a bit different when it's something you can change vs something you can't
That's the whole point tho, people's looks can change.. I don't put pics of myself out their, not cuz of shame cuz don't trust the internet and don't trust people... I did that to show I've been different sizes, size C boobs, size DD boobs, I've been 140,125,160 lbs... If you pass someone up cuz their boobs are bigger then what you you prefer, our they way less than you like or more than you like, what happens when that changes but you blew it cuz they weren't good enough in your eyes, but then you got a good looking person that's a liar, or a cheater or Narcissistic or toxic or selfish... Those things generally don't change... Cuz that's who what they are... So then would you rather the better person? Or the better looking person? π€·πΌββοΈ
*there not their damn auto fail π
*weigh not way
Any other ones you get the drift lol
Typos don't bother me. No need to correct. I focus on the idea, not the mistakes.
But what you're suggesting is that you should choose someone based on whether they could become what you want and then try to change them. That just doesn't work. People are at their best when they're single. When they get comfortable in a relationship, it all goes downhill. So from a man's point of view, it's better to choose too skinny because she's gonna gain weight once she gets comfortable
That's not always true but okay π€·πΌββοΈ and no I wasn't suggesting to change someone... You can't change people not should you try to... I was merely pointing out but people setting their standards too high they may be missing the real deal...
Long story short: if you're not willing to change for the better in order to attract the partner you want, then you're not going to change for the better once you get them. That's the entire idea behind "you should accept me for who I am"; you're not willing to put in the effort to be better than you currently are, and so you demand acceptance of your current state, and blame anyone who doesn't by calling them shallow.
Any man with a brain can see this from a mile away, and knows you're not going to make an effort to improve his life... you won't even make an effort to improve your own
You look for someone to enhance your life not improve it... You should improve yourself, your own life not expect someone else to... And no you shouldn't have to change for sometime if someone loves you they should accept you for you not try to change you into what they think you should be... And I don't look for people to improve my life... That's not relationships are for me... It's about companionship, sharing times, creating memories... Again do it your way... How's that working for you π€ again the very ones on here telling others how relationships should be can't even maintain one π€·πΌββοΈ People are different, just because see things differently don't make you right and me wrong.. Did something right for 20 years π can you say that π€ okay π€·πΌββοΈ
Enhance and improve are synonyms. Besides that, you just admitted that not only do you not believe in improving yourself for your man, you don't believe in doing anything to improve his life. Which was exactly my point. I can get companionship, shared times, and good memories by hanging out with friends or even owning a good dog. So anytime a woman says that's what relationships are all about, I know she's just gonna be along for the ride while I take care of everything. A man is better off single than in that situation
See there you go assuming like all men do these days... Along for the ride haha... Me and my hubby both worked, both took care of the bills, the house, the kids, and I took care of him the last year of his life.. Yeah I was just along for the ride ππ
I dont see much of a difference in the photos. I think that second one is better
There's a difference, like 20lbsπ±π
Looks good to me
Thanks
See, @Brainsbeforebeauty? Everyone still thinks you're hot. Stop worrying!
@Jamie05rhs Again what am I worrying about? This isn't about me and the way I look lol this is about people that out such importance on just looks yet complain they can't find someone, and if those saying physical attraction is so important, how many are single π€ There's a reason my marriage lasted 20 years, cuz it wasn't based on just physical.. And me and him both changed over the course of 20 years...
Why do you keep thinking I'm worried π€ lol
I'm not single cuz people don't find me attractive lol I'm single cuz I don't want to be in a relationship the way people treat their partners/relationships these days π€·πΌββοΈ
Yeah I just like them legs, the ones that go all the way up and get cheeky.
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Well at least if they look nice when you meet them because you were attracted to them back then , you get to grow old and change together , not start out that way with someone new if get what I mean
I think it's like telling them that sweets are bad for your teeth. They still eat them.
But then cry when they gain weight or get cavities ππ
This is true to an extent but they must also be hot. From 20 to 60 is a long time to be uggo. Yes you can be relatively attractive to 60 easily. I've seen some old ladies i was like hmm i wouldn't mind that. And I've seen 20 year olds who are fucking hideous. I just couldn't.
Lol.
Well now you know I'm disappointed to say the least
Disappointed?
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Sorry my "crease" disappoints you π€£π€£π€£
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Because we can't help it no matter how many times that is said.
It's more physical because naturally whether you realize it or not we each look for signs of fertility and for possibly good mate.
No we all don't, I didn't... I based it off the person he was, the character, the strength the MAN he was... And my girls turned out just fine... Two good looking people don't necessarily mean they're kids will be... People kill me with that...
You can't go "just" by physical appearance, but you can't disregard the laws of attraction either, particularly when you're young. It matters less the older you get.
Ever stop to think why do many relationships fail with younger people? Cuz they went by just looks, maybe π€
Today's failure rate vs 75 - 100 years ago is based on more than just that. Divorce was not economically feasible for most women in the past. Security and family were more important, so great looks were simply a plus, and you stuck out your marriage even if it wasn't the greatest. Now, everything seems to be at the extremes. On one end, you have a proliferation of the "instant gratification" way of dating. On the other end, you have those saving it for marriage and building a fantasy that requires a mate with the exact same one. And, you have kids who go crazy in their teens because someone broke their heart and "wasn't the one". That's all emotion based, not even looks.
But still not getting looks are subjective per individual... And people didn't get, that was whole reason used personal body pics, something I never do, not cuz I have an issue with my body, cuz hello it's the internet lololol And I wasn't looking for compliments or insults, but funny... Got both... Now, which mattered more π€ neither cuz that would mean strangers opinions of me matter more than mine, and I'm sorry but they just really don't... But it does prove people look at the same person and see different things...
Your last sentence has always been true. I'd venture to guess that "most" people are unhappy with their bodies especially as they get older, so the whole "nudes" fad is dumb in my eyes. That said, you're correct that it fosters even more attention on the physical. If there IS a good thing about it however, it's an instant tip off and "pre-screening" for the girls, for free !! If a guy wants your nudes right away, drop him in a nanosecond. You just saved yourself a LOT of time and energy !!
well you catch people's attention from your looks, then they decide if they want to go up to you or not. so in a way, looks kind of matter, since that's all they'll know when they approach you
Because responding to physical appearance is pretty much hardwired into our brains.
Because you cannot see a personality. Looks do matter. They are not as important, but they do matter.
You look really good 😉
Work in progress always lolol but thanks ππ
Well you still have an attractive body shape, looking really good girl π
Thanks π
Men are visually stimulated, this is biology no amount of wanting us to do differently is going to change that
People can do whatever they want, point is when that's how you choose your partner and it don't work out, then don't cry about it/whine about it when it backfires on you π€·πΌββοΈ
How would it backfire?
are those photos legit you?
I mean I tend to go for personality, attitude and character more. but I personally think the 2020 photos look much better the then 2019 ones. both seem healthy options but like the curves she gained.
Legit yeah, the hair should be recognizable π
must say you look great in both timelines
Thanks lol wasn't fishing for compliments... Just trying to show people are ever changing, but one thing is the same, I'M THE SAME in personality, and character whether I look like last year or now and could look totally different by next year
yes and because of you and a few other women I know that are older then me. you all kind of make me want to date slightly older woman. who knows how to treat her man like a man and not a boy or a fuck stick to bail on.
seems like women 40+ are more likely to have traditional values for a relationship.
Age doesn't always have to be a factor but will be if you still want kids... For those that don't, really don't, then it's not such an issue
have a set of twin boys from a ex. so don't plan on having more biological children really.
Well then go for it π and aww twins π₯° although better you than me lolol one baby at a time enough lololol waiting on my two year old grandson to get here π₯° they do adorable at that age.. The teenage years tho π±π± lololol
trouble for me is finding someone who would wanna date me knowing I have kids already. which I why I am open to dating women without or with children. because I know ones with children are in a similar boat. where they have limited options for long term partners.
You will
trying to date in a pandemic is a pain however.
Well yeah there's that
Physical looks leave the first impression, and come on, you wouldn't want to be in a relationship with someone you don't find physically attractive, would you?
Physical attraction can build just like love can
True
Mainly because they don't understand that personality is important.
Your right my legs are sexy
Oh bite me lolol told you your legs were sexier, don't gotta rub it in lololol
But your hair is much nicer than mine. But some how my hair lost body and bounce.
Now I sound like sampoo comercel
Lololol and I got better boobs hahahaha
I beg to differ. A wet tee shirt would prove settle this.
At least my boobs have hair
Hairy boobs don't mean better... Bet if you poll guys if they like hairy boobs, I'm pretty sure most will say no lololol
Okay okay you win. I submit and bow out. Besides most women dont like hairy boobs either
Why I shave mine lololol KIDDING πππ
No your not, the truth comes out hahahaha
Fine you got me...
https://images.app.goo.gl/ZFcmXLEBkWtnk2XJ7
Ooooo your a bad person. You used Google
Here is how you duckduckgo it
Lololol either way aren't I purty in purple :))
Well you look good in purple, but im sexy as hell in pink
Pretty in Pink lolol
I'm always sexy, so I don't care ;)
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When you pick a puppy to take home, do you pick the cutest or the ugliest?
People aren't puppies and you ain't ever seen people with ugly pets ππ
They probably found those and felt sorry
I don't understand; what are you concerned about? You look great in all of those photos.
I'm not concerned about anything... I just see too many people in here taking so much about physical looks the whole point is people can change for the worse for the better, you pass sometime over for being a little overweight, when they might not always be that way, or date sometime just cuz they skinny when they might not always be that way
@Brainsbeforebeauty Poor diet choices are a lifestyle habit. There's nothing wrong with dating someone who is overweight, but they had better be willing to change.
And no, people won't always be skinny. But at least if they start skinny they have further to go before becoming obese.
I'm not trying to be mean or make anyone feel bad. These are just the facts. (And they apply to us men as well.)
People can change physically and mentally.
But their heart and soul rarely does
You still should like how a person looks that you are with.
But the looks change so are you going to stop loving them then?
Lets say person A and person B have a wonderful personality, a great heart and many of the sam interests as you do but you like how person A looks but not person B. Which do you think you should go for when it comes to starting a relationship?
You can see people change on the inside by things as simple as struggling to lose weight. When they struggle long enough, they give up. Now they have allowed that weight to change them inside as well. Now I donβt want to be with her for who she is inside. Not because of the weight she gained and canβt lose.
@Brainsbeforebeauty
I am going to use an extreme example to make a point here.
Their left foot is webbed.
They have an extra toe on their right foot.
Their right leg is serverly biw legged.
When both arms are stretched straight out in front of them the fingers on their left hand end at their right elbow.
They have an ectrodactyly right hand.
They have severe acne and tons of warts all over their body.
Their eyes are severely crossed.
They have at least 25 ear, facial and body piercings.
They have at least 30 tatoos which any number of them might be pornographic or sacrilegious.
Are you going to want to be with that person looking like that tegardless how how good their personzlity and heart are and how many interestsyou share with themp? Most likely not but your question nullifies a person's looks. Most people do not want to start a relationship with someone they are not physically attracted to or who is not physically attracted to them regardless how the other person is as a person.
So what if your partner got burned by acid and it scarred them, it was in a fire and it scarred them? Would you discard them?
And I'm not saying Physical attraction shouldn't matter at all, but yeah both times I married, it was for who they were cuz neither would of been what I'm physically attractive to just based on looks
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