true, but the youngsters 19, 25, 36 all married or in committed relationships. one just got married and baby a year later, a little older than you. all the others talking about relationships or staying single. It's the parents...
That said, I hear about the "trash" from our teen. it's a mess out there because what is "corrupting" is more accepted. I wish you well finding what you want.
I don't know. Perhaps because people don't feel the need to be in a serious relationship, anymore. Or maybe dating apps are giving the ilussion that the more people you date, the higher the chance of finding a steady relationship. Ad to that: the sensation of having better options (the grass in greener on the other side).
Dating apps companies are profeting from the biological need to find a partner. Hollywood isn't helping, Disney never did.
We can also include the phenomenon of instant gratification, which actual technological advances has hyped. Let's also ad how (possibly) scared people are with how currently things are going (worldwide): deep economical crisis, political and social instability, the Ukra-Russian war and the danger of a WW3.
Beats me why. Just the culture we live in maybe? Still, not certain so I really do. It know. I know my last girlfriend things abruptly by saying she wanted to be single longer. Granted when we began talkiNg she mentioned that as well. However it was her who felt so moved by me that she wanted us to get involved and hell, the word, “elope” even passed her lips. I figure she just came back to her senses or whatever. Life goes on. Anymore and I just kinda affirmation as a whimsical moment or a momentary lapse of reason by the women I find myself briefly involved with. It’s always brief. Not even worth calling a girlfriend anymore …. And no, these are not net/distant never meet romance but women I actually meet and briefly start seeing in person from the start just by going about my day and striking up a conversation with them or them with me. Again, such is life.
I take relationships seriously, I just don't want marriage or children because those things do not make me feel happy or valued. I want a woman to love me for me and be with me because she wants to, not because of some meaningless ceremony, title and a piece of paper.
There's a big difference between dating and hooking up. Dating is getting to know someone to see if you would fit together and would like to be together in a relationship that is long term. Hooking up is simply just that, no commitment having ✨fun✨.
Both Genders react to each other. When social norms take a dive, both genders cause the other to react or adjust. Usually in a negative way.
For example, The "Sex first, relationship second" mentality has taken hold of our society. Men want sex and in order for women to attract men, they are less likely to withhold sex prior to securing a solid relationship. Sex is now so readily available that why would a guy want to get married or enter a relationship. Many people have even fallen enough down the moral ladder that they want "friends with benefits."
I don't blame men or women, but the decay of our society as a whole.
Marriage is out of style. Divorce is the next big thing. And with divorce comes alimony. Women don’t lose here men do. The house we mortgaged has to be sold for “her half”. The kids we helped make go to her and we still have to pay…
I don’t wanna talk bad about marriage but drastically speaking marriage is trash. Beautiful words nothing more. We can argue risk vs reward but what’s the reward? What do men get out of marriage we can’t get from a random hookup, friends, family, hobbies?
What women expect has gone up. The quality of women has gone down. Women's opinions of mens gone down. The benefits have disappeared and the risks are in our face. So why the fuck would a man even consider a serious relationship?
I don't know what you been through if it’s just no man asks you out or if their not interested in keeping you but… that just means they don’t think you have enough value.
Because people have forgotten what a healthy relationship is and prefer them full of drama so they dont get bored with the relationship. People also are hyper focused on getting laid compared to getting to know a person during dating. The way getting into relationships work now is "wanna fuck?, sure. want to be official girlfriend/boyfriend? lets see where it goes" every relationship i have seen usually starts with a hookup with very little romance & intimacy.
People are also scared to get to know each other as well. Every time i try, i get ghosted/unmatched/blocked. like seriously, talking about ones own interests & passions shouldn't be so hard. And I get it, ghosting started because of insecure & asshole guys that couldn't accept rejection... but, like wtf
Cuz people have just started paying much more attention to sexuality than that of the feelings. You know this is a sensitive topic to talk about , but if the sexuality comes first I mean if it is the real purpose of the relationship you will sacrifice everything for it and the relationship turns into disgusting things such as one-night stand or f*buddy or etc. rather than marriage , long time partnership etc. Feelings must be the real factor shortly it has to be tool. If the tool comes before the product everything will be perfect , but the product comes first (which is not even possible) you cannot do anything so the relationship will end up after time passes. Tool = Feelings (exluding or avoiding any kind of sexuality) , Purpose/Product = Happy Marriage during lifetime ;)
The phenomenon can be explained by simple economics. The dating game is heavily loaded against most men (average man), and in favor of most women and a tiny fraction of elite men. So, for that demographic they are living in abundance and excess, they don't value relationships as it's human nature not to value things which we have an abundance of. Then there are the majority of men, for whom getting into a relationship is so expensive and they are nearly always in a scarcity mindset that they give up and adapt as they realize that relationship is just not worth the price.
If there were 1 woman to every 10 men then that would have made sense but there are actually more women then men, so what they have to offer is being inflated.
I don’t think that’s true. I also don’t think it’s any better or worse than the past …we just came out of decades of divorce. I grew up with so many friends of divorced parents. anyways, I have been in a relationship of 5 years, engaged , with a goal of marriage kids family
Women chase top 20% of males for LTR. Get used by these men for sex/STR. Women such as you then go on social media sites complaining that no one takes relationship seriously anymore when a lot of guys still do but are overlook by women. Rinse repeat for same thing that will happen if you have a daughter.
Women can't be bothered giving men in 80% a chance until she reaches "epiphany stage", and usually by that time is mentally fucked in the head and lost a lot of her beauty and is on a decline.
@ShaTTeredMasterpeace When it comes to romantic relationship/sex where women have free reign of who gets picked, it often is. If you feel people aren't taking relationship seriously its because you keep going for top 20% of males who play you like a fiddle then discard you once they have had their fun.
Taylor did a video of this woman below complaining of the same thing, and who is now reaching her epiphany stage but not willing to lower her physical standards.
In the past, this was taboo. Hooking up was taboo. It's not being taken seriously, you're right. The datingsites are also working in favor of hooking up. For example, okcupid. It has the same tinder system. You are to swipe left and right and you only see his looks. You can go further to go to their profile, but I wish it wasn't like that. I want to see his picture and his profile automatically opens for me to read. But no, there is no time for that, it all needs to go fast fast fast.
the internet and everything that came along after it slowly ruined most peoples expectations and standards for dating and/or marriage. since a possible new sexual partner is only a few swipes and/or miles away.
plus as more males are finding out that in western culture many laws regarding relationships and/or parenthood heavily favor females. so many males are now weighting the risks and opting not to be in long term commitments.
Personally I blame the outdated law system more then I blame females. Because many of the laws currently in place that deal with breakups or parenthood. Were put in place before females started to join the work force in high numbers. So back then alimony and child support made more since. When it was harder for a female to earn her own income.
Nuclear family died. Women want multiple partners and lots of experience before settling down. Men’s minds are warped by pornography. Economy is screwed, too expensive to get a home and live on your own. STDs are rampant. Alcohol is destroying lives. Children are confused about their gender by media and parents. School is not focused on STEM. etc. etc.
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When you're 8 years old and your parents divorce, it's very hard for you to understand. All you want for Christmas is for daddy to be there, but that doesn't happen. It cut like a knife.
I think the family unit is so drastically different nowadays as are gender roles. These are not as defined as they once were and people don't prioritize things the same because they literally can't afford to even if they wanted to.
Also inflation and low wages are making it difficult for young people to start their adulthood.
I think this has made it harder to have a clear path into adulthood which would bring marriage, homeownership, kids, etc.
Lol women blame men for wanting sex and nothing else in a relationship, while men blame women for wanting to freeload in a relationship and have the man do everything for her. Which both are often very true. And we wonder why no one takes it seriously? Lol men are tired of carrying the woman’s whole world on there shoulders and women are tired of being seen for nothing but there bodies and how they can service a man. We get away from doing that. We can return to healthy meaningful relationships. Back in the day, wasn’t any better. Women were just told to shut up and accept what the man is doing for them. And that’s it. She was to cook clean and bare children. No freedom and strict society structure of how she should be. So I wouldn’t use back in the day as a lesson to look forward too
People take dating and relationships too casually these days. I don't know exactly why maybe because of dating apps. It seems that playing with people's feelings is okay nowadays.
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Everyone in my circle is married or seriously dating… to my k owledge.
So it’s some. Corruption of society… fear… poor training…. In essence… emotional damage.
You’ll have to look harder and possibly in other places you’ve never looked
You are also older
true, but the youngsters 19, 25, 36 all married or in committed relationships. one just got married and baby a year later, a little older than you. all the others talking about relationships or staying single.
It's the parents...
That said, I hear about the "trash" from our teen. it's a mess out there because what is "corrupting" is more accepted.
I wish you well finding what you want.
I don't know. Perhaps because people don't feel the need to be in a serious relationship, anymore. Or maybe dating apps are giving the ilussion that the more people you date, the higher the chance of finding a steady relationship. Ad to that: the sensation of having better options (the grass in greener on the other side).
Dating apps companies are profeting from the biological need to find a partner. Hollywood isn't helping, Disney never did.
We can also include the phenomenon of instant gratification, which actual technological advances has hyped. Let's also ad how (possibly) scared people are with how currently things are going (worldwide): deep economical crisis, political and social instability, the Ukra-Russian war and the danger of a WW3.
There you go.
Beats me why. Just the culture we live in maybe? Still, not certain so I really do. It know. I know my last girlfriend things abruptly by saying she wanted to be single longer. Granted when we began talkiNg she mentioned that as well. However it was her who felt so moved by me that she wanted us to get involved and hell, the word, “elope” even passed her lips. I figure she just came back to her senses or whatever. Life goes on. Anymore and I just kinda affirmation as a whimsical moment or a momentary lapse of reason by the women I find myself briefly involved with. It’s always brief. Not even worth calling a girlfriend anymore …. And no, these are not net/distant never meet romance but women I actually meet and briefly start seeing in person from the start just by going about my day and striking up a conversation with them or them with me. Again, such is life.
I take relationships seriously, I just don't want marriage or children because those things do not make me feel happy or valued.
I want a woman to love me for me and be with me because she wants to, not because of some meaningless ceremony, title and a piece of paper.
There's a big difference between dating and hooking up. Dating is getting to know someone to see if you would fit together and would like to be together in a relationship that is long term. Hooking up is simply just that, no commitment having ✨fun✨.
Except those lines are blurred all the time.
I don't think so. You just need to be honest with the person who you are talking to
Both Genders react to each other. When social norms take a dive, both genders cause the other to react or adjust. Usually in a negative way.
For example, The "Sex first, relationship second" mentality has taken hold of our society. Men want sex and in order for women to attract men, they are less likely to withhold sex prior to securing a solid relationship. Sex is now so readily available that why would a guy want to get married or enter a relationship. Many people have even fallen enough down the moral ladder that they want "friends with benefits."
I don't blame men or women, but the decay of our society as a whole.
Why should we?
Marriage is out of style. Divorce is the next big thing. And with divorce comes alimony. Women don’t lose here men do. The house we mortgaged has to be sold for “her half”. The kids we helped make go to her and we still have to pay…
I don’t wanna talk bad about marriage but drastically speaking marriage is trash. Beautiful words nothing more. We can argue risk vs reward but what’s the reward? What do men get out of marriage we can’t get from a random hookup, friends, family, hobbies?
What women expect has gone up. The quality of women has gone down. Women's opinions of mens gone down. The benefits have disappeared and the risks are in our face. So why the fuck would a man even consider a serious relationship?
I don't know what you been through if it’s just no man asks you out or if their not interested in keeping you but… that just means they don’t think you have enough value.
Because people have forgotten what a healthy relationship is and prefer them full of drama so they dont get bored with the relationship. People also are hyper focused on getting laid compared to getting to know a person during dating. The way getting into relationships work now is "wanna fuck?, sure. want to be official girlfriend/boyfriend? lets see where it goes" every relationship i have seen usually starts with a hookup with very little romance & intimacy.
Absolutely
People are also scared to get to know each other as well. Every time i try, i get ghosted/unmatched/blocked. like seriously, talking about ones own interests & passions shouldn't be so hard. And I get it, ghosting started because of insecure & asshole guys that couldn't accept rejection... but, like wtf
Cuz people have just started paying much more attention to sexuality than that of the feelings. You know this is a sensitive topic to talk about , but if the sexuality comes first I mean if it is the real purpose of the relationship you will sacrifice everything for it and the relationship turns into disgusting things such as one-night stand or f*buddy or etc. rather than marriage , long time partnership etc. Feelings must be the real factor shortly it has to be tool. If the tool comes before the product everything will be perfect , but the product comes first (which is not even possible) you cannot do anything so the relationship will end up after time passes. Tool = Feelings (exluding or avoiding any kind of sexuality) , Purpose/Product = Happy Marriage during lifetime ;)
The phenomenon can be explained by simple economics. The dating game is heavily loaded against most men (average man), and in favor of most women and a tiny fraction of elite men. So, for that demographic they are living in abundance and excess, they don't value relationships as it's human nature not to value things which we have an abundance of. Then there are the majority of men, for whom getting into a relationship is so expensive and they are nearly always in a scarcity mindset that they give up and adapt as they realize that relationship is just not worth the price.
If there were 1 woman to every 10 men then that would have made sense but there are actually more women then men, so what they have to offer is being inflated.
Because they don't take themselves seriously, there's no personal accountability.
Mixing the two won't get better.
We have people who don't love themselves and will lie to the person in the mirror, looking for a relationship.
Broken people, generate broken relationships/marriages.
Meanwhile because this is the majority of the dating pool, the ones who DO take it seriously, value goes up even more.
I don’t think that’s true.
I also don’t think it’s any better or worse than the past …we just came out of decades of divorce. I grew up with so many friends of divorced parents.
anyways, I have been in a relationship of 5 years, engaged , with a goal of marriage kids family
Very simple answer.
Women chase top 20% of males for LTR. Get used by these men for sex/STR. Women such as you then go on social media sites complaining that no one takes relationship seriously anymore when a lot of guys still do but are overlook by women. Rinse repeat for same thing that will happen if you have a daughter.
Women can't be bothered giving men in 80% a chance until she reaches "epiphany stage", and usually by that time is mentally fucked in the head and lost a lot of her beauty and is on a decline.
Thats right. Its common sense. Its too easy to laugh at too
I'm over everything being women's fault. Come up with another excuse.
The " fault " of 90% of breakups being initiated by women?
@ShaTTeredMasterpeace When it comes to romantic relationship/sex where women have free reign of who gets picked, it often is. If you feel people aren't taking relationship seriously its because you keep going for top 20% of males who play you like a fiddle then discard you once they have had their fun.
Taylor did a video of this woman below complaining of the same thing, and who is now reaching her epiphany stage but not willing to lower her physical standards.
https://www.instagram.com/jackijing/?hl=en
If you want things to change stop going for the same guy that 50 other women in your circle also want.
https://youtu.be/q4bMI4UEhiM
In the past, this was taboo. Hooking up was taboo. It's not being taken seriously, you're right. The datingsites are also working in favor of hooking up. For example, okcupid. It has the same tinder system. You are to swipe left and right and you only see his looks. You can go further to go to their profile, but I wish it wasn't like that. I want to see his picture and his profile automatically opens for me to read. But no, there is no time for that, it all needs to go fast fast fast.
the internet and everything that came along after it slowly ruined most peoples expectations and standards for dating and/or marriage. since a possible new sexual partner is only a few swipes and/or miles away.
plus as more males are finding out that in western culture many laws regarding relationships and/or parenthood heavily favor females. so many males are now weighting the risks and opting not to be in long term commitments.
Personally I blame the outdated law system more then I blame females. Because many of the laws currently in place that deal with breakups or parenthood. Were put in place before females started to join the work force in high numbers. So back then alimony and child support made more since. When it was harder for a female to earn her own income.
Nuclear family died. Women want multiple partners and lots of experience before settling down. Men’s minds are warped by pornography. Economy is screwed, too expensive to get a home and live on your own. STDs are rampant. Alcohol is destroying lives. Children are confused about their gender by media and parents. School is not focused on STEM. etc. etc.
When you're 8 years old and your parents divorce, it's very hard for you to understand. All you want for Christmas is for daddy to be there, but that doesn't happen. It cut like a knife.
https://www.youtube.com/embed/cmzd_Xa_2CcI think the family unit is so drastically different nowadays as are gender roles. These are not as defined as they once were and people don't prioritize things the same because they literally can't afford to even if they wanted to.
Also inflation and low wages are making it difficult for young people to start their adulthood.
I think this has made it harder to have a clear path into adulthood which would bring marriage, homeownership, kids, etc.
Lol women blame men for wanting sex and nothing else in a relationship, while men blame women for wanting to freeload in a relationship and have the man do everything for her. Which both are often very true. And we wonder why no one takes it seriously? Lol men are tired of carrying the woman’s whole world on there shoulders and women are tired of being seen for nothing but there bodies and how they can service a man. We get away from doing that. We can return to healthy meaningful relationships.
Back in the day, wasn’t any better. Women were just told to shut up and accept what the man is doing for them. And that’s it. She was to cook clean and bare children. No freedom and strict society structure of how she should be. So I wouldn’t use back in the day as a lesson to look forward too
People take dating and relationships too casually these days. I don't know exactly why maybe because of dating apps. It seems that playing with people's feelings is okay nowadays.
Agreed