Can you really trust a woman who says she wants an honest man?

[ACR130]

It's come to my attention that every time I do encounter one of these women, they say they want honesty but when they get it they get mad. My theory is it's not that they want an honest man but it's that they want a man to be selectively honest and only honest when it's convenient to her and only when she wants to hear it. Then when it's something she doesn't want to hear she doesn't appreciate it. If you ask for honesty you should be able to accept it in what ever form it comes in, not in what ever way you want it, because then it's not really honesty.

[Rei02]

The same question in the reverse way, can you trust a man who says he wants an honest woman?

Minds can be dangerous, unpredictable, you can say something, but you can contradict yourself afterwards.

We say we want to hang out with a honest person, but uncounsciously we can find attratcive and appealing someone who is either a bitch or a bastard. Why?, because we can be too romantic and insecure.

[ACR130]

The difference is that men can actually handle honesty and won't make a big deal about being told something they don't want to hear. We are more accepting to honesty.

[ronaldo75]

See? She proved me right.

[fonduegirl]

Honesty can be loyalty and faith and general trustworthiness in a partner. It doesn't mean if she asks "do i look fat", you bluntly tell her she does. There has to be a milder way of saying it, and I think it's not her problem if you're not familiar with that.

[Anonymous]

Women only want honesty when your honest opinion follows the script in their heads. If you think anything other than what they want you to think, honesty is the last thing they want. In other words, always tell them what they want to hear.

Whoever said honesty was the best policy was either lying or a damn fool.

[CallmeTheKnight]

Honesty is appreciated no matter what. If she wants a man to always lie to her, leave her be, because she doesn't know any better.

Honesty can hurt and Honesty can reveal doubts within ourselves. The question is, are you able to be honest at all times?

[MzAsh]

She wants a man whose honesty won’t piss her off.

[ACR130]

But honesty isn't always going to come in a positive form and they should know that

[ronaldo75]

Which means she's a liar.

[ronaldo75]

You're 23 so let me save you a lot of stress and bullshit - Never, and I mean NEVER listen to a woman's observations on relationships. Ever.

[MzAsh]

When some women get pissed off when they get the honesty they want, it often means they’re naive about how men really are. When you’ve been on the earth long enough, you begin to understand men and you’ll be less surprised by what they say. There’s isn’t anything men say that surprises me anymore because I’ve learned it’s mostly their opinions which are to be taken with a grain of salt.

[dustybiker]

No they want honesty. They don’t often know how to handle it when they receive it. Bad past relationships can really screw a person up when they find someone good for them. (That is if the person truly is good and not just painting a scenario. That would be a different response)

[Commander_Red]

Well what are you being honest about is the question? If you tell her that the dress she is wearing makes her look fat, sure, it might be honest, but it also makes you look like a prick. When we say we want honestly, we mean we want open communication. For example, being honest about what we like and dislike about a relationship. Not hiding secrets like wanting to see other people or playing games.

[ACR130]

It makes me look like a prick because I didn't lie and say "yes you look amazing"? That's what I mean by only wanting selective honesty. Hmm so honesty isn't appreciated in other parts of the relationship?

[Commander_Red]

But that's in general. You shouldn't apply it to just relationships man. I mean, if my friends were wearing something that they loved, and they really loved it, I'm not gonna shit on their happiness lol.

[Jabberjaw]

If your mom dies you want to know. You don't want someone to lie to you because the truth hurts. You're also not going to be happy when they tell you. But you'll ultimately prefer knowing the truth than not knowing

Same concept

[Nawlins34]

I take a mental note of her statement and see if practices what she's asking for.

I bring it up to highlight in a future conversation. But I have to agree, if it stings, they recoil with the quickness.

[Changiis07]

Yes true but also there is a way to communicate in a way where it won’t be hurtful/offensive. There’s ways to be honest but in a kind way

[Adam1978]

No that's not honesty, if you are honest you need to say the blunt truth otherwise you are going to have to lie to some degree. Because the truth is blunt.

[Juxtapose]

There's such a thing as being honest without being a dick about it.

"I think that dress is not flattering for your figure."

Vs

"That dress makes you look like a fucking dog turd you sick bitch!"

See?

[KelleyNice]

You may be on to something. I really don't know. I hope that does not describe me when I'm older.

[TacosRAwesome]

Don't use honesty as a way to put your partner down. But be overall honest.

[ACR130]

So don't be honest when you know honesty will hurt their feelings then?

[TacosRAwesome]

Eg. It's in my opinion it's fine to tell your partner they're gaining weight at a neutral time but dont say it during an argument because it's obviously coming from a place of hate rather than a place of love.

[Subarugirl]

Well there is a difference between being honest and being a prick, it all about the way you say it.

[cloud9vortex1234]

Then there an Honest Prick.

[Subarugirl]

@cloud9vortex1234 the two aren't don't have to be mutually exclusive. Some people uses honestly as an excuse to be an ass hole.

[cloud9vortex1234]

True, but some people are overly sensitive and can't handle honesty.

[ACR130]

To be honest I think the issue comes from how most guys always tell women what they want to hear so they never really experience honesty or hurt feeliy

[mobiusforniner]

Yes but truth hurts and some women handle emotional pain very badly

[Philyouup]

Honesty and being smart are two different things you can be smart and honest. Pure honesty can be cruel

[driven159]

trust and respect are earned it has to grow together

[Chthou95]

Well how many women are truly honest? Hypocrites women can be

[Farkhanda]

Everyone wants perfect perfect but never want to change themself

[Uptowngirl88]

a lot of y'all need therapy on this app lol

[Unit1]

Very Fair point.
But then it conflicts directly with their toxic masculinity 😬

[Uptowngirl88]

He's thinking way too deep into what she said and overanalyzing and judging her based in his past of negative experiences

[Uptowngirl88]

He needs to just not date if he's going to carry over toxicity from his last relationship and crucify her over what another woman did to him

[ACR130]

I need to be a part of this cuz I don't know what you all talking about

[anton_dee]

Women are a fuckin mystery...

[Jltakk]

Not really no. It's a platitude.

[DaDusty]

Being honest doesn't mean being an asshole