Do you think reversed gender roles are going to be more expected in the future or traditional?

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women are graduating at a higher rate and out earning men. I can't imagine dating a non traditional man tbh

Guy13 · Accepted Answer

From my study of Feminism, Gender, Philosophy, and Psychology from 1960-70s into 1980-90s, there was a Gender/Value backlash which was female driven. The women wanted virile and traditional short-haired men with the values of their fathers. It was referred to as “Revisitation of 1950s”.

I expect the same again although it will be a combination of sexual revolution and traditional men responsibilities. Traditional, Leader, Safety provider, and Hot will be most pleasing to a woman as it is today. Their Male Value will double as the Traditionalist supply reduces to 30% of population. This trend is evident today mostly because of the feminized man. It will get worse for the female because no woman wants the genes of effeminate mixing with their own….

Income has been a shared responsibility since post 1970s when Feminism and Business fought for women out of family and into the workplace as a cost reduction resource.

There are, however, somethings I can’t wait to see such as both the plaid and pink “Star Trek” styled military outfits as women move into a man dominated fields and bring their fashion sense too.

UniquelyBasic · Accepted Answer

Well with women stepping into more traditionally men roles men will probably have to step into more female roles.

Razp_Sorbet · Accepted Answer

I don't want reversed. I want equal. Men should have equal part in raising kids and doing housework.

The only reason women are the default is because women use to not be allowed/didn't need to work. When the world changed to women and men working (because we need two incomes to survive) the household chores and childcare were still on the woman. Even though the idea of this system was that people would have someone at home doing the household chores and childcare not leaving it up to the woman to do after an 8 hour work day.

BlueScorpio · Accepted Answer

I don't know I'm thinking most women are looking for option B it seems. They want men to help out around the house, with the kids, and bills. They still want a level of financial security in case their partner should unexpectedly die or the relationship falls apart.

Summeroflove · Answer

I think what matters is love. I don’t think women marrying for money are looking for the right things and I think they’re gold diggers.

As long as they’re honest about what they want and aren’t wasting good mens time. But watch out because men can be gold diggers too…. Just saying.

I don’t agree with either option. I think different people want what they want and have different standards and preferences. Which isn’t a bad thing by any means.

I have no problem with more traditional people or more modern people. I don’t really want either or their models for myself.

Find who you’re happy with

coachTanthony · Answer

I think women will rent men in the future to do things that were traditional just to scratch that itch.

MrOracle · Answer

Most men don't want non-traditional women, so what's going to happen is that there were be fewer and fewer real relationships, and more and more hookups/casual sex/friends with benefits and more people going without sex or relationships entirely.

Feminism has taught women to BECOME the men they've always wanted to be with, instead of becoming the WOMAN that such men want to be with. This will NOT make women happy - and we're already seeing that play out. Wait until it becomes the norm for women to be paying alimony and child support... They're REALLY going to love having those laws used against them, as a few already are.

https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2021/02/halle-berry-child-support-gabriel-aubry-extortion-nahla-divorce-instagram

Halle Berry Compares Paying Child Support to Her Ex Gabriel Aubry to “Extortion”

Few women have any problem when a man is forced to pay CRAZY amounts of child support - Kanye is paying $400,000 a month, because clearly Kim is struggling - but when Halle Berry has to pay $16,000 a month (which I agree is ridiculous), suddenly it's a problem - and she eventually got that halved. Do you think Kanye is going to get his halved, or even reduced a little?

But here's also what's going to happen: women with conservative values are going to be having families, while feminist women are increasingly going to be childless. Natural selection will eventually cause feminists to go extinct.

Chazmatazz269 · Answer

We are where we are as a species due almost entirely to evolutionary biology. It’s going to take generations before anything other than traditional gender roles becomes the norm. Even as women are earning more, they are also still expecting the men they marry to earn more than them. Thus far only women have been permitted to outgrow traditional gender roles. Men are still valued almost exclusively for their willingness and ability to protect, provide and support. As many generations as it’s taken women to get where they are, men will need the same to catch up.
Eventually there might not necessarily be a “norm” even if there is always traditional. Men and women both should have the freedom to decide if they want to be the primary breadwinner or the primary caregiver, and then find a mate whose values and ideals line up.
It’s worth noting that our economy has to change a great deal to achieve that though. The capitalist pigs decided they wanted every man and woman grinding out their fortunes. Very few households CAN be single income anymore and “they” won’t let us go back to that regardless of how many homes and lives are destroyed for their greed. That has a greater influence on gender norms as you described them than anything driven by interpersonal relationships.

bolverk · Answer

Traditional roles may be be the default, but It also depends on the household, while my mother was a stay at home mother and my father worked shifts they would swap tasks as needed, my mother would do the in home maintenance as needed, my father would cook, clean, do the washing, they'd share feeding, changing, bathing the kids. I learned to be the same, I have more child care hours under my belt than most mothers today, looking after my siblings, nieces, and nephews.

As for gender roles in the future, I have the feeling that the vast majority will stay on traditional lines, with a bit of deviation as couples find what works for them.

As for the 'boss babes' they will have a serious problem finding guy's to date them let alone marry them as they have nothing that men want, it would be like dating/marrying another guy. As other contributors have said - THEY have become the guy's that THEY are looking for, they will only 'date up'. Guys will 'date level, down, where ever' to they find what they are looking for, the fact that the 'boss babes' have degrees, high flying well paid jobs means nothing to guys who are looking for love, respect, a partnership, not a constant power struggle.

JennaWillow · Answer

Traditional gender roles exist for a reason, as male and female brains are wired somewhat differently. By and large women prefer working with people (education, healthcare, etc.) whereas men prefer working with things or concepts (mechanics, most sciences, etc.) There are a few areas of overlap but for the most part, each profession leans one way or the other.

There are various theories as to why this might be, though it exists in every people worldwide so the argument that it is cultural really has no legs.

As time goes on and society becomes less rigid I imagine the percentages will stay closer towards the centre than they have historically, though we will never see a majority of male midwives (already actually a gender neutral term, as its origins come from "with-woman/wife") or female sewage workers.

Lionman95 · Answer

I think traditional roles will always survive in some form to the people that keep them. But they will change since women are going to out earn men maybe in a way that she still does more of the housework while he´ s doing the mechanical things.
It could also lead to less people being in relationships because the female expectance of a guy will rise and most guys might not keep up with them.
I´m not sure if gender roles will completely swap because at least what I hear from my colleagues is that though many women out earn their men it ´s still guys that make the decisions in terms of finances, tax and insurances since they have no interest in that.
So I would say it gets more diverse.

ArtemisSilver · Answer

No, women seem to really hate dating down to the point where I think we'll see more single mothers with high earning jobs just hiring domestic help.

The role of father's has been highly undervalued in recent years. Unfortunately it's not great for kids, one only need look at publicly available statistics for children in single mother homes to realize how this is going to go badly.

The social experiment of male disempowerment is about to blow up in the face of western countries who've allowed it.

I'll just sit back and enjoy my popcorn 🍿 as society collapses. Whatever lol

mobiusforniner · Answer

How about who gives a shit about gender roles? Marriages (or relationships) are not about who does what. It's not a competition with a finite goal and a concluding winner or loser.

Too many people focus on "what's fair". It's *her* job to cook, do dishes, or take care of kids. It's *his* job to make money, fix things, take out the trash...

The reality is, it doesn't matter. Think of a relationship, not with a "finite" mindset, but with an "infinite" mindset. There is no end. There's only getting better.

oddwaffle · Answer

Women tend to marry men who are at least equal or better. They rarely like men who much are less successful than themselves. On the other hand, men are more open to marrying women who aren't as successful.

Supposed that you have 100 men and 100 women, the #1 man makes 1k a month and the #100 man makes 100k a month. Same for women.

The top 50 of the men would be able and willing to marry any of the 100 women. On the other hand the top 50 women would be able to marry any of the men but most are only willing to marry the top 50 men.

So you will ended up with singles who are men who aren't making much and women who made too much. The women rejects the unsuccessful men and lust over the married men who are successful but married already.

Phoenix98 · Answer

I don't really see that happening to be honest and I highly doubt women will ever genuinely take over traditional male dominated jobs especially the ones that are labor intensive, disgusting and or dirty. At least not by choice.

And there are some fields/jobs where women just won't be able to hack it because they just simply lack the strength to do so. My job being included in that.

Men and women are suited for different things are brains are wired differently, we think differently, feel differently are interested in different things and approach things different ways. There's also the biological aspect of it as well our bodies are again suited for different things.

StanDan · Answer

It wasn't that long ago, where there was a need for a person with great physical strength in order to keep warm, bring food to the table, take on strenuous jobs. This person was most likely a man since he had (not all) the body to perform such tasks. It wasn't that long ago where there was a need for a person to deliver children without medical attention and to feed (milk) their babies since "formula" was not invented. That person was a woman. Now, all those male/female attributes are not needed for the most part. There is a definite grey area regarding traditional roles. Just have to wait and see how far it goes.

Lookingforthetruth · Answer

No. What's going to happen is that women are going to end up in polygamous relationships with guys like Andrew Tate, who have money and status.

Do you think reversed gender roles are going to be more expected in the future or traditional?

While the men who fail to meet female demands will die off alone, commit suicide or try to find a mate in another country. Of course a fraction of these men might get preyed on by single mothers who will offer them a "relationship" in exchange for being a good father to their children.

CateM · Answer

Though it hurts me to say this, traditional gender roles will always exist. We've come a long way in neutralizing the patriarchy, but it will always be there. I'm not saying we can't improve though, we certainly can, but I don't see the patriarchy ever going away

bamesjond0069 · Answer

You cannot change traditional roles because of biological functions. They come primarily from giving birth and investment in said process.

The more women earn and such will not reverse gender roles but reaffirm them. Say you're some high earning attractive woman. Are you going to get with a man working McDonald's and overweight? No. Will you stay single forever? Some may. Will you date attractive men who outearn you... even though there's 20 women trying to actively be with the same man so basically you will share through methods of serial monogamy, false monogamy and cheating, polygymy, or just casual dating? Many will and are already choosing this option.

jshm2 · Answer

Yes, but for the wrong reasons.

Disease, war and health risks tend to kill more men than women. In a decade or two, it's going to be a case of lower life expectancy and population of men than for women.

Even in current birth rate trends there are fewer male births than female. So it's only sensible that more women get educated and into industry to head off the development. But the problem is going to arise in how family and relationships dynamics will change for even worse.

Blackmoonsns · Answer

I really don't know what you mean by reverse gender roles I'm single I live and take care of myself I go to work for myself but I cook my own meals clean my own house wash my own clothing I don't see it as a gender reversal I just see it as tasks and chores that need to be done in my day-to-day life.

Ekvark · Answer

I hope I'm alive to see the point where these ideas all collapse on themselves because I constantly see people talking about not continuing gender roles and societal norms for themselves which is fine, I don't have a single problem with that... but those same people that preach the loudest about that for some reason want those traditional roles for their would-be partner. And this is on everybody.

Friendlybro79 · Answer

I can't pick between the two options because I think neither are going to happen. I think it will be pretty much like it is now for maybe the next several generations. That being some relationships will be traditional and more will have two incomes of which men and women share responsibilities. That would be option c for me. Lol.

Eventually AI might change things so drastically we will see a different way of living altogether. That might disrupt traditions of yesterday and today.

Hispanic-Cool-Guy · Answer

Do to the advancement of technology and the way the economic system has been structured (in advance societies).

Traditional outdated gender roles are going to be less and less in the future.

Moreover, people are complicated, and they are going to do what they desire to do in their relationships or what they perceive works best for them.

Kiran_Yagami · Answer

Gender roles haven't changed at all. All that's happened in wealthy women are paying less wealthy women to do all the jobs they can't be bothered to do. Maids and nannies have replaced mothers for young children, but they're still women doing those jobs.

ObscuredBeyond · Answer

If Roma Army on YouTube is any indication, we're on a Pendulum. Non-traditional will have its heyday, but will get greedy, and cause a snap back to traditionalism. The pendulum usually swings on a swivel of greed.

ChooChooHaha · Answer

Suddenly we'll look more like Sweden (American here). But is it really the end of the world for men to be stay at home fathers? Why's it wrong?

CubsterShura · Answer

I can certainly see it beginning more normalized and less stigmatized. I'm personally not against the idea of a stay-at-home husband or dad either.

NathanDavis · Answer

I will continue to live my life as my own...  and without a worry for what other 8 billion people could or could not undecidedly use as an excuse to not be happy

PBandJ_Nerd · Answer

This is just me personally, but I kind of like a mix of traditional and non-traditional roles. Sometimes traditional, sometimes non-traditional.

lightbulb27 · Answer

heck if I know! my wife works, I stay home and tend everything... after working for 1/4 century and retiring.  I'm good with it...

goaded · Answer

Voted A, even though I stayed at home with the kids. My wife could earn twice what I could, even before my employer tried to halve my income. We're not a typical couple.

DarkWinterNights · Answer

Traditional roles are traditions for a reason. Our post-modern reinterpretations of what was once considered biological fact will end up self-correcting.

Subarugirl · Answer

Im hoping that gender roles go away all together. They are archaic, perpetuate inequity, and facilitate abuse.

Manab · Answer

Most women don't actually wanna date non-traditional men while they are young. However, they love someone who will help as they get older. One reason bad boys do so well in dating as those men are almost always traditional mentality guys.

Ninania · Answer

Neither. Gender norms are slowly becoming a thing of the past. The new thing is personal responsibility regardless of gender.

loveslongnails · Answer

Depending on who you want to agree with, there could be 100+ genders in the future. Which ones are we reversing, darlin'? LOL

Andres77 · Answer

Women will never be men. And regardless of how pussified some men have become, men will never equal women.

BoobMan · Answer

I don't think the fact that women are graduating at a higher rate does anything at all to their dating preferences.

backdoorman · Answer

Wait, your profile says you have a body count of 60. That doesn't sound like traditional dating. What am I missing?

AmeerX · Answer

Not gonna happen in another 1000 years. Women themselves want someone to look after them

ChiTown33 · Answer

At least you're willing to acknowledge the hypocrisy.

vanesaxx · Answer

women now are fucking men with strapon and we are fucking better ! even in that that was supose to be a man only job! soo..

IHateBeingaMan · Answer

well men being expected to be the initiators or making the move, asking out, i don't see that ever changing

Dildорhobe · Answer

I want femininity to vanish so nobody will use dildos anymore.

_Troian_ · Answer

I guess it gonna be reversed, thats hows it going for at least 10 years.

Bklynbadboy12 · Answer

I think traditional roles will always be around and they'll be those few that want to do their own thing

whistlingwh0res · Answer

I don’t think it’s for everyone but I know some people who is into

jimmy2 · Answer

Married now days need. More of both to imputed and create a marriage

TenderFantasy · Answer

OLD HABITS DIE HARD.

The_Shadow_Dweller · Answer

Whatever seems to work out.

CloudMassacre · Answer

I don’t think either will be

Jennz6 · Answer

I am not really sure 💃

Noodle_fan · Answer

in here? i dont think so

LogicBomber · Answer

Only if people want society to fail.

Lynn2001 · Answer

Traditional is boring

BigManSAB · Answer

Get use it………. that’s all I can say!

Tiger288 · Answer

I don't want to date non traditional women

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