My boyfriend of 2 years proposed to me but I never gave him a straight answer. He’s adamant and wants us to get married. He’s very sweet to me. He’s a good guy and treats me well. But when I first started dating him he told me that he has a daughter. I knew deep down I don’t want to be with someone who has a kid from a prior relationship. I continued to date him , though. I was thinking I could just have some fun by going out with him a few times and I won’t let it get too serious. I still stand by what I want and what I want is to start my own family. I want it to be both of our first child. He’s already had that experience without me and I feel like it’s something I just can’t compromise on. I always knew from day one that I’d never marry him. But time has gone by fast and now he thinks that we’re gonna be together forever. How do get out of this situation without seeming like the bad guy?
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+1 yDon't worry about seeming like the bad guy. That's not what this is about.
You do need to give this man a clear and straight answer that you do not want to marry him. It's not fair to leave him without an answer, when YOU know the answer.
There are no two-ways about this. You just need to meet this head-on and be straight-forward about it. I always think honesty is the way to go. However, if you choose to, you can make some excuse for why you will not marry him. But the only way you're actually the "bad guy" here, is if you delay your answer any longer. That's not fair.
You know how you feel. You know you're answer. Believe me... I get that it's not going to be easy to do... but you owe it to this man to be clear that you do not want to marry him. He will be devastated. You're going to feel like shit too. But you aren't the bad guy. You're just being honest. You should not marry someone you do not truly want to marry.
He wants your real answer. Even if it's a no. There is no excuse to delay it. He deserves an answer.
Good luck. 🙂
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nonsense! this is the type of behaviour that kills people's hearts. Men hardly want to commit and he probably won't ever want to again because of her selfishness.
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@DermalPunch This girl doesn't want to marry her boyfriend who proposed. I suggest she needs to be honest about how she feels and tell him her answer is "no." What could possibly be the problem with that? What would you suggest? That this woman say yes even though she doesn't want to marry this guy? That's not selfish. That's just how she feels. This... is crazy! Yes this type of thing will hurt this guy very badly... but the other option is not being hurt... and marrying a woman who truly would rather not marry him. There is nothing worse than that when answering a proposal. Saying "yes" when you truly mean "no" would be despicable beyond words!
It would lead to happiness for nobody. - +1 y
Don't worry about seeming like the bad guy. That's not what this is about. <<<---- Nonsense!
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@SteveSmith1985 completely agree.
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@DermalPunch Perfectly said!
Asker+1 yI can’t just come out and say I don’t wanna marry u cause u have a kid after two years of already being with him. I don’t like to be around his daughter. She’s a very sweet little girl but I’m uncomfortable around her. Whenever she’s going to be there I make up an excuse and that I can’t make it. I try to limit my time around her because I always knew I don’t want to be a step mother in a blended family. This should have been enough of a sign for him but he's still adamant about marriage. We love each other and are in too deep to just walk away. I still want to be with him but marriage is taking things too far. I’m cool with us just enjoying each other’s company. I explained to him that everything is fine the way it is.
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This should have been enough of a sign for him but he's still adamant about marriage.
you are capital S selfish - +1 y
@DermalPunch I am... genuinely confused. Could you please elaborate? It IS about who's the bad guy? or? I really have... no idea what your objection is. Please spell it out for me.
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@DermalPunch So the above confusion was for your... I guess it's second reply. With the arrows.
But in reference to your response to the OP... I think I agree with you (I I understand what the OP is trying to say)
The OP is indeed capital S selfish for being with a guy who was looking for a wife without being clear she's not looking to get married (at least to him in particular). If you let this guy believe that your relationship was going to lead to marriage, if everything worked out over-time, with your relationship... then you're a terrible person. One of the worst kind of deceivers. There's no excuse for that, if that is inideed an accurate characterization of your situation.
The only excuse to find yourself in this situation is if it caught you off-guard. That you were in a serious relationship, sure,... but not a relationship where you were in any way expecting this proposal to happen now. This should be an "oh shit" moment where you realize you have ACCIDENTALLY led this guy to believe that a proposal had a chance. If it's not. Holy shit do you suck as a person.
Regardless of the situation. The main point remains. You need to tell him you don't want to marry him (and he'll leave you. To find someone looking for the same thing he's looking for. As is only fair and right.).
I hope there's no confusion about THAT part?
That really is the most critical thing here. Whether you're a terrible person, or are merely in a terrible situation. FIGURE OUT HOW TO SAY NO. I DON"T GIVE A FUCK WHAT YOU TELL HIM. BUT TELL HIM "NO." WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU STILL WAITING FOR!
Asker+1 yI told him no but I’m going to hold on to the ring until we figure things out. He agreed that was ok for me to do. He’s taking me out to dinner to see if we actually have what it takes to be married. He said he’ll show me that he would make s great husband. I don’t think this will change my mind about my decision. But at least he’s trying …
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You (the OP) are fucking terrible. Just awful. What the hell are you going to dinner to talk about? There's nothing to talk about. You don't want to marry him. You're an awful person for not just being straight up about that.
Women like you are the nightmare of good men everywhere.
The way you are behaving is inexcusable. BE BETTER! - +1 y
@DermalPunch thank you so much for supporting this guy,,,
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@DermalPunch I know this type of stuff can destroy a person's romance romantic intentions but at the same time we have a problem here she does not feel safe around the little girl we don't know what that little girl is going to do in the future or maybe she herself doesn't like kids that could be it too so she has no business having kids That's why she doesn't want to marry the guy I don't know what to say It is what it is.
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Anonymous(36-45)+1 yI had to turn down a marriage “proposal” last year with my friends with benefits (who lives in another state but visits often).
It was more for a financial arrangement than love. However I did seriously consider it for a few months. I got advice from people I trusted. I considered the financial ramifications. I also was in the process of recovering from a bad addiction (which I was very honest about to my friends with benefits). I also was honest with the girl that I didn’t have strong feelings but I respected her (because I do).
Anyway I get your predicament here. However there are two things you need to consider:
1) a part of you was very selfish to string him on for so long. You seriously need to own up to that. Yes I get it that you needed time to consider the proposal but it sounds like you wanted him to just “forget” his idea so things would go back to status quo. However he was very serious about that proposal but ignoring it for an extended amount of time was disrespectful. It took him guts to propose. But you didn’t reciprocate the way you should have. Admit to him you handled that wrong.
2) it’s fine you don’t want to marry him given you want to start your own family. But I warn you this will only get more challenging the older you get and the longer you wait to find the “right” man. I have to accept that if ever get married there is a good chance my fiancé might be divorced and/or have kids.
Feelings aside he needs to know you respect him. Respect and love are not the same thing. So don’t get that confused. Men aren’t as naive as many women think. We can act idealistic at times but a part him deep down will conclude that you failed to be honest with him for your own selfish ends.
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+1 yHey lovely, it looks like you care about him very much but when it comes to love it can be unpredictable. It must have been amazing 2 years for it to fly buy & happy to hear this man is so good to you. If you are crystal clear from the beginning then it sounds like you are in a situation where a lot of people Land in.
the fact you stayed for that long marks the just having fun phase. The casual dates that lead to relationship. There is no way out of hurting others emotions when it comes to love/ attraction. But you are not the bad guy when your being honest and sticking to your truth. You have a responsible role here and you need to lead with intention. Not to get married to this man and I’m sure he hoped 2years down the road you change your mind.
Break up with him and don’t drag it out cause it will hurt him even more. Lets say he is ok with not getting married and keep it to fun the be responsible for you & him my letting him go so he can meet a woman that would love to marry him. It hurts now but later he will be grateful to you for making way for that woman to come in. But she can’t if you stay and avoid hurting him with the truth.
Not to change your mind on anything because you know what’s best for you. I have been a nanny, every child born is like the fist all over s again. That won’t take anything away from the you. The question is he a good dad? Would you be happily married to him? Is he like you best friend to you? The cost of no compromise on your end is a man that is will commit to you and now a days that’s rare.
Think of your pros and cons but it’s at a point if your set in your ways it’s time to stop having fun and let him go. Good luck beautiful.
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1.3K opinions shared on Relationships topic. Too late. You're about to crush him.
Break up with him immediately. Admit to him that you are in the wrong, here, not him, and that you did, in fact, string him along for two years. The longer you delay this, the worse it'll be for him. He needs to move beyond you now.
And don't do this to another man.
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I did the same thing as this person long ago. I ended up falling for him and having to accept his past. I couldn't have changed his past as much as he could have. Thing is, we broke up for other reasons, not this, but this one was REALLY something I agonized over in the relationship and it led to many fights and abuse sadly (on both ends!). I agree with you. As much as I am embarrassed to admit it, I too was in this situation! But then I grew up and realized that love (and relationships), if it is to truly work, need a lot of hard work and sacrifice. Otherwise, it is best to just start over with someone new.
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@TenderFantasy I applaud you for being so honest and humble about that. 👏
I think, perhaps, the main thing that young (er) people have to learn about relationships is that they will be harder than they imagine. They will be tested in ways beyond what can ever be predicted. But that doesn't always mean they are 'not meant to be', or that finding 'the one' is the answer that will permanently solve this. It won't.
Everyone will make mistakes, be, at times, like a bull in a china shop, or too rough or reckless in decisions, and with the others' feelings. Or selfish, or irrational, etc etc, the list goes on...
I've seen a pattern - underestimating the amount of work it will be, overestimating standards and what is humanly possible in finding in another, and the humility to admit when mistakes are made. People have to take accountability for their part in things - and I'm happy to see that you are acknowledging that.
It's especially difficult once people are emotionally invested. It's so much harder to walk away then, even if staying is not right, either. - +1 y
@AmandaYVR thanks for telling this girl what what needs to hear.
She is in a very difficult conundrum. But she needs to be honest with herself on why she decided to drag this out and it’s selfishness on her end.
However one thing women need to understand about he male psyche is deep down we want respect more than almost anything else.
It’s possible to fall out of love with someone but still respect them. She needs to both own up to being wrong on how she handled this AND say she is being honest because she respects him.
He’s going to be devastated. There is no getting around that. But he will recover faster if he feels respected. She has to convey that. - +1 y
This is the worst thing someone could do
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4.5K opinions shared on Relationships topic. Be honest with him. Personally, I think what you have done is both immature and cruel. To continue to stream him along knowing long ago is was not going to work is cruel. In my mind, you have no business involved in any relationship if this is how you treat people.
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+1 yJust be honest with him and how you're feeling and if you can't get past the fact that he has a kid then it's best to let him know now than later as more time keeps on passing by but if he is a good guy and he treats you well and you two have chemistry then don't lose out on that but again bad guy or not you have to be true to yourself and what you want before saying yes to anyone
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+1 yYou are the bad guy. You've continued to date him and get serious with him, knowing all along that you would never marry him. Tell him No and let him find the woman for him to marry.
40 Reply 2K opinions shared on Relationships topic. Then definitely tell him that you don't want to get married.
In my opinion, marriage is for the rest of your life. If you can't see yourself being happy spending the rest of your life with him, don't do it. You have no obligation.
You didn't tell him up front that you didn't want to get married. But did he ever tell you up front that he was looking for another wife? Did he even ask you if you wanted to have children?
People who are commenting here are acting like it's a given that dating means seeking a permanent relationship and that it's all your fault for stringing him along.
They don't even know the reason he got divorced from his first wife.
Wasting two years of his life? So being in a happy relationship with someone for two measly years is a waste? I've been in relationships that lasted that long but I didn't feel obligated to marry the girls.
You were happy and he was obviously happy. But it got too serious. Even though you could have been more up front, I don't see you as a bad person.00 Reply
+1 yYou dated him long term and seriously enough for him to propose without ever telling him that wasn’t your intention because he has a child? You should have been up front with him from the beginning. You should have never pursued a serious relationship with him knowing that you weren’t going to marry him. You need to tell him no if that’s how you’re feeling, but you are the bad guy in this situation, just like a previous commenter said, and if you really can’t see that then you need to step away from dating and evaluate your maturity and readiness to actually be dating. This is going to hurt him, but he and his child deserve better than someone who would string him along like you have.
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Ouch.
That was harsh though it did need to be said.
I too was in this situation believe it or not (and I am a bit ashamed to admit it). But I learned. I learned a lot from it. I learned that real love is a lot of hard work and compromise and sacrifice. Maybe she just needed to see the light. I guess giving her brutal honesty is one way! - +1 y
I totally agree
1.4K opinions shared on Relationships topic. lmao, you were with a guy for two whole fucking years with no intention of being with him or marrying him? What the fuck were you doing with him then? Were you lonely? No other guys around? I mean, jesus christ, if your plan was to have a family of your own with a guy who doesn't already have a kid, then why on god's green fucking earth would you waste this guy's time in a dead-end relationship that he doesn't even know is a dead-end? I mean, you're not young forever. Why would you waste your time? What was the genius plan here?
What you should do is come clean to this poor guy, tell him you never saw this as serious, tell him that he deserves better than you, apologize for wasting his time and manipulating his feelings, and fuck right out of his life. Maybe use your time to actually find a guy who wants you before you turn too old to have a "family of your own" and have only guys who already have kids or guys who don't want kids left. That would be too fucking ironic, but probably what you deserve.
10 ReplyI mean you are kind of a shit person for spending so much time with him, especially if you never mentioned that part where you didn't see it seriously. But you still expected him to be loyal to you, take you on dates, and not fuck other people right?
But disregarding that. Break up with him. If you don't want to date someone with a kid, then don't. But you really shouldn't have done that in the first place if you already knew that right?
Move on, but you should realize that Karma is a bitch, and you definitely got some bad karma coming your way.
20 Reply988 opinions shared on Relationships topic. You shouldn't have entered it in the first place. Not only are you playing with his and his daughter feelings, you are also wasting your time, because it's in the way of your real goal a stand alone family. You are the bad guy, accept it and leave sooner than later and be honest about it.
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u +1 yYou continued dating him and let things get serious during those 2 years. You made him falsely believe that you accepted him & his daughter, aswell as gave him false hope of having a future with you. You hid your true feelings and strung him along. Sorry to say, but you are the bad guy, 100%. 2 years don’t magically go by fast. You knew what you were doing, and now that he’s proposed, shit has hit the fan. Break up with him. You’ve toyed with him for long enough, and the longer you drag this out, the more you’ll hurt him. Let him heal from this misleading relationship and let him find a woman who won’t toy with his heart and who will actually accept him & his daughter and want a future with him.
20 Reply 2.7K opinions shared on Relationships topic. You wrote:
"But when I first started dating him he told me that he has a daughter. I knew deep down I don’t want to be with someone who has a kid from a prior relationship. I continued to date him , though. I was thinking I could just have some fun by going out with him a few times and I won’t let it get too serious. "
You have no idea how this pisses me off!
I am sure you are a decent young lady, but, inside, I am silently screaming at the top of my lungs: "YOU SELFISH BITCH!"
Why the fuck did you waste his time? and his heart?
... Because "girls just wanna have fun".
In other words, you've just been using him all this time.
>>>>> This is how MGTOWs get created.
Thank yourself for being part of the problem.
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Actually you do have a point, but decent young ladies don't do that
+1 yMy advice is to tell him no. If he’s understanding and patient then he’ll understand and give you all the time you need. If however he get upset and breaks it off with you then you know exactly what type of person he is. You’ll know you dodged a bullet. Although my guess is that if he asking and it’s too soon for you that he really only cares for his own needs. If he can’t sense that you’re not ready then there’s a bigger problem. In which case it might be better to get out now before you realize it’s too late to fix those red flags that you’ve been ignoring.
00 ReplyShould've communicated this boundary from the start.
That being said it's your boundary. You love him, but your social programming tells you what you want.
He's not your boyfriend, he's just a guy you love and have sex with.
So here's my suggestion. The way you get out easy is for him to find what he's looking for, you need to tell him to find another partner as you continue to love him, and when he has it just move on and find what you want.
That way you're not hurt, and he's not hurt or resentful. Because it's a 2 year investment. You're gonna get hurt too, I mean it's 2 fucking years. Now if you have no feelings for him at all, then just bounce. Block him and move on.
01 ReplyYou wasted his time. And also gaslighted him.. you should have spoken it out load that it’s for fun not to your mind and thoughts. Lol
Beside don’t forget that life can be unfair too. You can marry someone without kids have your own and get divorced.. single mother! It can happen there is no guarantee in this life beside death. Don’t set up strict rules to your life see if you love him? If you don’t leave.51 Reply
+1 yI personally don't think that was very kind of you to do that, why have a boyfriend you don't want to get married to and have a family with. You've led him on, the best thing you can do is tell the truth and let him decide for himself if he wants to stay with you.
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+1 yI don't get it. What is the point of having a boyfriend unless you are considering your compatibility for a marriage partner? You may as well just be fuck buddies otherwise.
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Asker+1 yHe never even asked me to be his girlfriend he just told me I was one day and I went with it 😳
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+1 yYou fidwant to be with a guy who slready has a child so you got with a guy knowthey have a child. You then stayed with him for two years even though you want to start a family with a guy who doesn't have children or even a child. You led him on to believe you would make a good stepmother to his child and a good wife for him so he proposed to you. Now youvare hem and hawing around sith giving him sn answer to his marriage proposal. The best you can do is apologize and tell him everything you did wrong and what you really want then let him say his stuff. After that go your separate ways. You will still be the bad person who wasted his time his child's time and your time.
00 Reply 3.6K opinions shared on Relationships topic. You ARE the bad guy - you knowingly misled him this entire time. It's too late to avoid being the bad guy. All you can be now is honest with him, and you need to know that it's going to end your relationship, and he's going to be upset. That's just something you've got to face up to. Did you seriously think you'd never have to take responsibility for this?
30 Reply446 opinions shared on Relationships topic. Sweetie, I hate to tell you this, but you put yourself in a situation where you’re gonna have to be the bad guy. If you never wanted to marry him, you should have ended the relationship long ago. He’s gonna be devastated, but you have to come clean and be honest and tell him you don’t want to marry him and accept that this is the end of the relationship.
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u +1 yIf his having a daughter from a previous relationship was something that bothered you, then you should have either told him that a long time ago or ended the relationship then. This, consequently, is one reason among many why I am entirely and without exception opposed to sex outside of marriage.
You have been using him and stringing him along for two years. How do you get out of this without seeming like the bad guy? You don't.
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+1 yYou can't. You need to be honest, tell him you were just using him, break up, and yes, you are the "bad guy" here, and he will see that, and he will hate you for it.
Thats whats gonna happen, be it sooner, or later, and there isn't really anything you can do about it.
You are a horrible person for leading him on for 2 weeks, let alone 2 years... time to face the conseqences. 🤷🏻12 Reply- +1 y
Woah two weeks? That's a little harsh given that maybe he didn't disclose of his child till week two! Also, that's really not a long time to process things!
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@TenderFantasy No.
Day one you should be asking if he has any kids, once you found out, you should have ended it then.
2K opinions shared on Relationships topic. You cannot get out of the situation without seeming like the bad guy because you ARE undoubtedly, 100% the bad guy.
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Asker+1 yHow am I the bad guy?
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@Asker: You have strung him along to long. Accept him or Move Along.
+1 yThere’s no way of getting out of this without hurting someone. If you stay, you’ll be denying him the right to marry someone who truly loves and wants to marry him and wants to care for his child as their own. If you go, you’ll crush his heart. He’ll heal eventually, but it will hurt him for a while. Situation one is unfair to both of you and situation two would break his heart. We can’t really tell you what to do, only you can decide what’s best.
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+1 yUhm say no and break up. Easy. You made a huge mistake and now have to carry the consequences
Honestly you should have let him know all that what you told us from the get go, so he could've have made his own decisions if he just wants to have fun too or well leave.00 Reply 384 opinions shared on Relationships topic. "Ey yo, I don't want this. All right?"
I mean i'm sour rose, so I'll say it how it is. You wanna be pissed at me, block me, shoot me, fine. I won't have to deal with the regret of not speaking my mind. Sooo ya know, use something like that to say that you don't want this. If he sees you as the bad guy, so be it. you said what ya said.
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+1 yYou're not the bad guy. Shit happens.
Stay in the relationship and let it take it's course. Tell him you don't want to marry someone with a kid, and let him decide what to do.
If he wants to stay with you and keep trying to get you to marry him, that's on him, not you.05 Reply- +1 y
And I'm not a Devil's advocate. I've been in the same position you are now.
Around year 4, I changed my mind and actually did wanna marry her. Maybe you will too - +1 y
The fact that she didn't want to marry him because of his child and not him. There was already a hole in step 1. I doubt she will change her mind in year 5 or 6. It will probably just be worse for both of them having to start over after all that time togehter. I think the sooner they can find someone more compatible and who they can readily accept (the past, the present and the future), the better. The fact that she is already asking people here about it, is already a warning sign that things are NOT going to work out in the long run. Staying would be MORE of a waste of both their time if I may say.
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Fair enough
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SHE IS THE BAD GUY! The type of bad guy that people ACTUVELY AVOID and hope NEVER to get unto a relationship with. Heart crushers.
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Fuck off people
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+1 ySorry but I would break up. I feel like this is something that needs to be discussed before starting a relationship with that person. Like kids too for example. Not everyone wants kids. It's the same thing with marriage. You kept him hanging unfortunately so that kind of makes you the bad guy. But even the bad guy can do the right thing.
00 Reply Huff life is not glitter and sparkles. How is he with his kid? Is that behavior something you can picture you want as a father for your kid? If so then what's the problem? There is no guarantee at all, non what so ever that you will find someone new that is kind and nice, that will be good to you and a good father. You can not choose everything in life, sometimes you simply have to enjoy what you got because there is deep down nothing wrong with what you got.
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+1 yOut of the kindness of your heart you should do him a favor & breakup with him because he’s looking for something you are unable to help him out with.
The right girl is out there for him & unfortunately it isn’t you.
10 Reply LMAO 🤣 Good fucking luck. You let this go for two years making him think you two will spend your lives together. And he thought you accepted his daughter when he had no idea you truly felt this way from the beginning. Have fun telling him what your true feelings are.
11 Reply541 opinions shared on Relationships topic. The things you religious people do to eachother is baffling. Communication is number one priority! Always! Or it will just cause problems. But if him having a kid is the only problem, yeah thats very weird. Why would you let go of someone just because if that? Is that really the only problem with him?
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Asker+1 yI don’t want a blended family. I don’t like dealing with baby mamas. That’s just not what I want for myself
Anonymous(30-35)+1 yif you didn't want to marry him in the future, because of the kid, you should have ended it there... you are causing more heartbreak than is necessary... don't wanna get too serious, yet continues for 2 years... i don't feel sorry for you. just pack up your shit and leave i guess.
00 ReplyDid you ever mention to him that you didn't want to date anyone with a kid? I'm going to guess no, because if he's a self respecting man which he appears to be based on how you've described him, then he wouldn't have entertained you for 3 years.
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Asker+1 yI told him I only want one kid of my own but never had the heart to tell him that I don’t want a blended family.
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That was cruel of you to waste his time then. you're allowed to want what you want, but you robbed him of the option to go after what he wants, by not telling him straight up that you never wanted anything too serious with him. Now he wants to marry you, spend money on a ring, and wasted 3 years of his life with a woman that had ulterior motives all the long. He may have continued to entertain you if you told him that you didn't want anything serious like marriage, but Im betting he might not have, and that's precisely why you made the conscious and selfish decision to keep that information from him.. This is why so many today couldn't care less about marriage. Shame on you.
Asker+1 yNope ! That’s not y I didn’t tell him. I actually kinda told him but he took it some other way and I just went with the flow. In the beginning What I told him was that I wanted to have fun and feel free. His response to that was taking me out and showing me a good time. He was showing me a lot of attention and I liked it. But I never told him I wanted to marry him so I don't know y he would think that’s an option. Anytime marriage came up I changed the subject. How could he not catch on?
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Smh, take note fellas. This is why nice guys finish last most of the time. A lot of women will allow you to waste your time with them, simply because they like the attention, and they will justify that with "How could he not catch on". Meanwhile, theyre the same women complaining about men that pretend to like women just so they can sleep with them. So as a man in todays dating market, its important for you to see these kinds of women as the red flags that they are, before you end up like the poor guy that bought a ring and proposed to this girl after 3 years. I dont even know him, and I feel second hand embarrassment for him.. As me today, we've gotta do a better job of teaching other men how to avoid these kinds of situations. That being said, its important to know that emotionally immature women come in all shapes and sizes, but they almost always share a deep rooted insecurity that tends to stem from a troubled childhood. These kinds of women tend to communicate via passive aggression, because they never developed the ability to communicate their thoughts and emotions in healthy ways as children. Essentially, they are emotionally indistinguishable from the average child.
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Next, emotionally immature women will find it terrifying to acknowledge when they've done something wrong or inconsiderate, as displayed here by this girls last comment, after I pointed out how inconsiderate she was of the guy she's been dating for three years. This kind of self serving behavior is aligned with narcissism, but it's worth mentioning that not all people that display narcissistic qualities are actually narcissists. Lastly, the key to identifying this behavior, is to pay attention to how a woman carries herself. Does she need to be half naked to feel good about herself? Does she ever take accountability when she is wrong, or does she always blame someone else? Is she self aware, or working towards it? Does she manage her money well? This is in no way an exhaustive list, but its a great start to protecting yourselves from the growing amount of women that think this way today. Further, In a way she's not entirely wrong for basically saying that if a man is dumb enough to waste his time with her, then its his fault. So be smart fellas, and vet women before you invest your time and effort into them. Time is our most valuable resource, because none of us know how much of it we have, so be sure to treat it like the valuable resource it is. Good Luck.
Asker+1 yYou’re just judgmental and biased for your gender
Anonymous(45 Plus)+1 yYou can't get out of this without being the bad guy because that's who you are. You knew the situation, you led him on, and now you are going to cause him endless heartbreak which will take a few years to overcome. . . all because you were selfish and wanted to have some fun. Great work! Just fucking excellent!
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+1 yIt sounds to me like you have behaved selfishly in that you never made it clear to him that you would never marry him. You have, in essence, wasted two years of his life. So in that respect you are the "bad guy."
You get out it by finally being honest about it.00 Reply 1.4K opinions shared on Relationships topic. You're leading him on, keeping him until you find someone else. Not even honest enough to tell him you'll replace him someday, or you don't want to marry him.
Break up with him, he deserves a chance to find someone who won't use him like you do. You're a despicable human being.
10 ReplyYou already are the bad guy. You entered the relationship knowing full well it wasn't serious and unless you told him that early on then you've wasted two years of his life leading him on when he could have used that time finding someone who wanted something more serious. You need to break things off as soon as possible and just accept the fact you're in the wrong, not for not wanting to marry him but for not disclosing your feelings at the beginning of the relationship
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+1 yBreak up with him. it's indecisive people like you that damage people and make them incapable of trusting people. he wants marriage you don't.
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i really hope you're a troll. you really cannot understand how you are wrong? i never wish bad on people but if you really lack that much empathy and are so self-absorbed I hope the same thing happens to you.
Asker+1 yOfc I see where I f’d that’s y I’m asking for advice
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but sweetheart, I've read through the thread you didn't seem to get the gravity of what you have done. Please please please don't do this to anyone again. Obvi I would NEVER say marry someone out of pity or guilt but being atrung along is the most heart-crushing thing you can do. It's worse than death. And men do not recover as easily frim these emotional injuries. This is how monsters are created.
Anonymous(36-45)+1 yYou can’t. You ARE the bad guy. You entered into the relationship with zero intention of ever having a future with him. He obviously did not, loves you, and was stupid enough to believe that you too wanted a future. Guess he’s the sucker. Ya don’t.
00 Reply343 opinions shared on Relationships topic. Just apologize for not ending it sooner and let him know that his child is a dealbreaker for you. Don’t waste more of this unfortunate man’s time. And never have a relationship with a man who is already a father ever again.
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Anonymous(36-45)+1 yIf u kept your boundaries out since day one, then he crossed the line on his own.
I also don’t wanna be in a relationship w someone who’s divorced because if marriage ever came up then it would both be our first - so I hear ya.
Unfortunately you may have to be the bad guy.
But keep in mind, it’s not a “bad guy” thing- it’s a boundary.13 Reply
Opinion Owner+1 yAlso, guys are with women a lot! And don’t want a relationship, so you’re fine Gurl!
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I think it's called Standards or Preferrences. Having a child isn't a "Boundary" or a mistake that someone has crossed!
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you idiot
1.5K opinions shared on Relationships topic. Well you are the bad guy and after two years he could think that it is 'together forever' if nothing was said to the contrary.
I think you should own it and tell him.00 Reply
Anonymous(45 Plus)+1 yLol you’re pathetic. You led this dude on for 2 years. Wow. You need to break up w him. Not going to be easy. Well maybe it will for you since you weren’t considerate of his feelings. Let him go, he deserves better.
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+1 yIf you don't want him for having a kid from the past, why on earth did you essentially string him along for 2 years?
30 Reply Just start being honest with him (and yourself) for the first meaningful time in the relationship, and break things off.
00 Reply2 years isn't a serious relationship? You just used this guy for his gifts dates and affection
00 ReplyAll you can do is be honest. Tell him the reasons why and what you love about him, but he needs to know why you don't think marriage is feasible.
00 ReplyJust be honest with him... the truth of the situation is that you might not want to feel/seem like the bad guy here, but you are.
Best not to beat around the bush.
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+1 yYou can't. You don't want to marry him. Tell him the truth. It's better this way. I'm turning off replies because a certain user wants to argue over the possiblity of hurting them versus the morality of actually being upfront and honest.
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+1 yA lot of guys have kids from prior relationships. They just don't know about them, because they never stuck around long enough.
At least this dude actually took responsibility and is involved in his child's life.03 Reply- +1 y
Why did you date someone if you knew that you weren't going to be willing to marry them?
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Some people are all about looks only and fun.
Can work if that's what both people want. Otherwise yeah, best to be honest as soon as possible. - +1 y
Yeah. That's always best.
Or he's trying to dump you the nice way by asking a question he knows goes beyond.
Have you had sex with him or just been friends?00 Reply982 opinions shared on Relationships topic. You should end the relationship. It is unfair to use him like that and waste his time when you know it won't work out long term.
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+1 yThen break up. What's the point of being boyfriend girlfriend when the goal isn't marriage? I don't plan on ever getting married so I don't date or actively search for a girlfriend.
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+1 yYou're doing wrong by misleading him. You knew you don't want to marry but you also knew he wants to, but you are still keepin this thing going on. You're pretty toxic.
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+1 yI don’t know you but I have a feeling in my gut that you’re going to regret this
but just be honest like an adult are you a woman or a little girl?
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thank you. people need to grow TF up!
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@DermalPunch yes that’s a big issue with dating today too many people are stuck in highschool
Dude We are Grown! Let’s act like it
920 opinions shared on Relationships topic. then why did you get with him and stay with him knowing from the beggining that you never really wanted him fully (marriage) . sorry but that us a form of leading someone on and brwaks good men daily.
00 Reply532 opinions shared on Relationships topic. Too late. If you don't want to get married over, a lame excuse, IMHO, him being a single dad, you should never let it get so far along. If you and the daughter get along, then it'll crush her too.
00 ReplyBe honest.
He will either be cool wit, ir break up with you🤷🏾♀️
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+1 yYou were the bad guy for two whole years. End of story.
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+1 ywhat do you want to happen?
end it for good?
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What is your hangup with step kids?
4.3K opinions shared on Relationships topic. You have to be honest with him. Mentally if you are not ready you should not take it forward.
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