There are more factors than what you listed above.
Also divorces tend to benefit women much more than men. They usually get child custody. They also usually get alimony and child support. They also usually get more “encouragement” from society. They also have an easier time finding someone else quickly (if they don’t have them lined up already).
That’s not to let all men off the hook on this. Sometimes a divorce really is the best course of action. But I think commitment is becoming less and less of virtue nowadays. But I rarely see truly “happy and free” divorced men unlike vice versa.
Break ups and divorces actually harm men much more long term. There are studies to back this up to.
It’s not easy though. I have seen men who cheated but their spouses couldn’t just let it go. Marriages do work but sometimes it’s when the trust is broken……then comes a lot of other issues like lack of intimacy, lack of understanding, lack of respect for each other …..
I think it is difficult to unpack - lot of factors. YT Pyschacks suggest that women treat marriages as men treat jobs and monkey branch - or try to - to a better position just as men will take better job offers.
As part of hypergamy, even though a woman was pumped and dumped by a 1%er, the lesson taken isn't the woman is better off with a more average man. The lesson taken is that she can get a 1%er and if she can get a 10, for however short a period, she must be a 10. Hence she deserves better than the husband.
I was listening to Aydin Paladin on the effects of oral contraception on female mate selection. It seems quite plausible if a woman goes on or off oral contraception then wakes up looks at her husband and thinks why am I with this piece of shit?
Most women know the kind of man they're getting into a relationship with, and often times in the beginning they know he is not something they think is not great, or they feel like he has flaws. So lots of women go all the way to marriage with these guys thinking or hoping he's going to change, or thinking they can fix him.
What happens instead is that the men see their wives are putting up with them, and they get lazy and don't change because of it. So the women get frustrated and finally declare divorce. The men are lazy bastards, but the women usually know it from the beginning, so they are the ones who bring themselves pain in the end.
1. The result of scam marriages where a gold digger woman tries to take everything a man has.
Or
2. The result of a woman who marries an abusive husband who she thinks will change, until she wakes up to the fact that people don't change.
The legal system doesn't let men get away with gold digging and taking half her assets upon divorce, nor does the legal system take it seriously if a man claims his wife is abusive.
There is no incentive for most men to file for divorce, as it's only likely to cause him more grief.
I deal with a lot of high-profile ones and in those it is often because she reached the California ten year mark and gets open-ended spousal support. But I think in most it is just due to one of three things:
1. Abuse 2. Infidelity 3. A lack of commitment to the vows.
I think women tend to make decisions based off how they "feel" and they tend to not really face any consequences post divorce. I think people have this idea that if someone is the "right" person every thing should just work, but that isn't how real relationships operate. Long term relationships take work and effort on both sides, it requires communication, spending time together, putting each other's needs above your own. It's hard, modern times people tend to be more selfish, and divorce has become more accessible and more accepted. So when a woman "feels" like she isn't getting what she needs, it's easier to find it from someone else and leave their current relationship than to talk to their current partner to try and fix it.
Chose other, because all your options can be one of the reasons that will make a man or a woman file for a divorce but what makes a woman takes the 1st step towards it in the majority of time is because of feminism and how the society treats women these days plus all the beneficial factors that a woman receives in the court of law...
The proof! Well look in the past, a women used to facd cheating and beating and remained in her toxic marriage, why? It's because the society and laws were totally different and there was no feminazi pigs roaming the streeta shouting for unequal rights!
I think it's none of the above. It's probably because men don't care about marriage as much as women. A lot of men go along with it just to please a woman and aren't really into the idea of marriage. They want to companionship, they want a mother for their children, they want someone to take some of the work off their hands, but the marriage part is more like a price they have to pay for that than something they really want. And once they got married anyway they really don't care about marriage one way or another whereas for women marital status is a serious matter.
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Two primary reasons:
Women benefit from divorce due to a very female-biased court system.
Today's women have lost any sense of commitment.
A lot pf people try to paint women as victims in this by saying they are driven to it by their husbands. But if we compare the divorce rates between heterosexual, gay and lesbian couples, it's easy to see the common denominator is women. The highest divorce rate by far is among lesbian couples, and the lowest is among gay couples. The more women in a marriage, the higher the likelihood it will end in dovorce. The more men in a marriage, the more likely it will last.
But , I didn't find out till much later that she had post natal depression , not so much of a thing back then , and she was willing to destroy herself and everybody else , by initiating this break up.
Thank GOD she did as it turned out , Wholly sht ! can't even imagine , she will sadly end in a much worse place than she would have , had she been able to deal with life at that point.
I understand guys see these numbers and get scared thinking women will leave. But 80% initiate doesn't mean 80% at fault. The guy may have cheated as one example so she left. Personally when it comes to who is at fault I think the real number is closer to 50%. There are shitty people in both genders, please stop assuming all guys or girls are bad because of some bad ones.
Well most of the women dedicate their whole life to their family from the dawn to the night doing the household work, cooking and shit. Ngl they live happy
Then some husband cheats, or threatens her or not let her live her life how she wants to. Then the woman decides to initiate the divorce to at least live freely
They don’t. According to my solicitor it’s quite an even split. In my case, he left. I tried to start the ball rolling and wouldn’t agree. He made me wait nearly 4 years. I the sorted the mediation sessions and he started the divorce proceedings. The making me wait part was while he tried to spend a hide money.
I think women need attention and to know they have a connection to their hubby. Once the connection is lost and the husband ignores them and their needs, they tend to review their life and just want more from it and their partner.
The obvious ones like infidelity are a given. No one should stay in relationship where they can't trust the other person.
Yes yes, everyone loses in a divorce. I'm not saying it's painless or anything like that. What I am saying is that the divorce courts are solidly biased in favor of women. So there's less financial risk involved and they're more likely to be the one getting primary custody of the kids.
Basically, a man has to be more cautious about getting screwed in court and ending up in a situation where he loses the house, the kids, and has to pay his ex. The woman just doesn't experience that.
Mostly because they like to steal from men. If there was no alimony and the man got to keep everything that he paid for based on his income and assets, most women wouldn't divorce because the ones that like to steal from men wouldn't get married in the first place, knowing there would be no financial benefit from divorce.
A combination of feeling like I shouldered the majority of the responsibilities in the family as well as no emotional support or connection. I was there to bring a paycheck pay bills, care for our child and cook and clean. I tried so many times to foster a connection and he ignored me
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There are more factors than what you listed above.
Also divorces tend to benefit women much more than men. They usually get child custody. They also usually get alimony and child support. They also usually get more “encouragement” from society. They also have an easier time finding someone else quickly (if they don’t have them lined up already).
That’s not to let all men off the hook on this. Sometimes a divorce really is the best course of action. But I think commitment is becoming less and less of virtue nowadays. But I rarely see truly “happy and free” divorced men unlike vice versa.
Break ups and divorces actually harm men much more long term. There are studies to back this up to.
It’s not easy though. I have seen men who cheated but their spouses couldn’t just let it go. Marriages do work but sometimes it’s when the trust is broken……then comes a lot of other issues like lack of intimacy, lack of understanding, lack of respect for each other …..
I think it is difficult to unpack - lot of factors. YT Pyschacks suggest that women treat marriages as men treat jobs and monkey branch - or try to - to a better position just as men will take better job offers.
As part of hypergamy, even though a woman was pumped and dumped by a 1%er, the lesson taken isn't the woman is better off with a more average man. The lesson taken is that she can get a 1%er and if she can get a 10, for however short a period, she must be a 10. Hence she deserves better than the husband.
I was listening to Aydin Paladin on the effects of oral contraception on female mate selection. It seems quite plausible if a woman goes on or off oral contraception then wakes up looks at her husband and thinks why am I with this piece of shit?
Pretty hard to pin it down to one or two factors.
Most women know the kind of man they're getting into a relationship with, and often times in the beginning they know he is not something they think is not great, or they feel like he has flaws. So lots of women go all the way to marriage with these guys thinking or hoping he's going to change, or thinking they can fix him.
What happens instead is that the men see their wives are putting up with them, and they get lazy and don't change because of it. So the women get frustrated and finally declare divorce. The men are lazy bastards, but the women usually know it from the beginning, so they are the ones who bring themselves pain in the end.
Because most divorces are either:
1. The result of scam marriages where a gold digger woman tries to take everything a man has.
Or
2. The result of a woman who marries an abusive husband who she thinks will change, until she wakes up to the fact that people don't change.
The legal system doesn't let men get away with gold digging and taking half her assets upon divorce, nor does the legal system take it seriously if a man claims his wife is abusive.
There is no incentive for most men to file for divorce, as it's only likely to cause him more grief.
I deal with a lot of high-profile ones and in those it is often because she reached the California ten year mark and gets open-ended spousal support. But I think in most it is just due to one of three things:
1. Abuse
2. Infidelity
3. A lack of commitment to the vows.
I think women tend to make decisions based off how they "feel" and they tend to not really face any consequences post divorce. I think people have this idea that if someone is the "right" person every thing should just work, but that isn't how real relationships operate. Long term relationships take work and effort on both sides, it requires communication, spending time together, putting each other's needs above your own. It's hard, modern times people tend to be more selfish, and divorce has become more accessible and more accepted. So when a woman "feels" like she isn't getting what she needs, it's easier to find it from someone else and leave their current relationship than to talk to their current partner to try and fix it.
As Pearl (Just Pearly Things) states, it is because they are paid to divorce. Since are arguments make very good sense, I agree with her.
Chose other, because all your options can be one of the reasons that will make a man or a woman file for a divorce but what makes a woman takes the 1st step towards it in the majority of time is because of feminism and how the society treats women these days plus all the beneficial factors that a woman receives in the court of law...
The proof! Well look in the past, a women used to facd cheating and beating and remained in her toxic marriage, why? It's because the society and laws were totally different and there was no feminazi pigs roaming the streeta shouting for unequal rights!
I think it's none of the above. It's probably because men don't care about marriage as much as women. A lot of men go along with it just to please a woman and aren't really into the idea of marriage. They want to companionship, they want a mother for their children, they want someone to take some of the work off their hands, but the marriage part is more like a price they have to pay for that than something they really want. And once they got married anyway they really don't care about marriage one way or another whereas for women marital status is a serious matter.
Two primary reasons:
A lot pf people try to paint women as victims in this by saying they are driven to it by their husbands. But if we compare the divorce rates between heterosexual, gay and lesbian couples, it's easy to see the common denominator is women. The highest divorce rate by far is among lesbian couples, and the lowest is among gay couples. The more women in a marriage, the higher the likelihood it will end in dovorce. The more men in a marriage, the more likely it will last.
Honestly when I get married it will be for life so I can’t think of any valid reason for divorce apart from abuse and infidelity.
Many women even tolerate slight physical abuse but most women cannot tolerate infidelity.
In my case it was A..
But , I didn't find out till much later that she had post natal depression , not so much of a thing back then , and she was willing to destroy herself and everybody else , by initiating this break up.
Thank GOD she did as it turned out , Wholly sht ! can't even imagine , she will sadly end in a much worse place than she would have , had she been able to deal with life at that point.
I understand guys see these numbers and get scared thinking women will leave. But 80% initiate doesn't mean 80% at fault. The guy may have cheated as one example so she left. Personally when it comes to who is at fault I think the real number is closer to 50%. There are shitty people in both genders, please stop assuming all guys or girls are bad because of some bad ones.
Well most of the women dedicate their whole life to their family from the dawn to the night doing the household work, cooking and shit. Ngl they live happy
Then some husband cheats, or threatens her or not let her live her life how she wants to. Then the woman decides to initiate the divorce to at least live freely
So why she married his?
If see was know this is going to happened?
She wouldn't have known, people change
They don’t.
According to my solicitor it’s quite an even split.
In my case, he left. I tried to start the ball rolling and wouldn’t agree. He made me wait nearly 4 years. I the sorted the mediation sessions and he started the divorce proceedings. The making me wait part was while he tried to spend a hide money.
I think women need attention and to know they have a connection to their hubby. Once the connection is lost and the husband ignores them and their needs, they tend to review their life and just want more from it and their partner.
The obvious ones like infidelity are a given. No one should stay in relationship where they can't trust the other person.
Women usually have less to lose in a divorce.
Yes yes, everyone loses in a divorce. I'm not saying it's painless or anything like that. What I am saying is that the divorce courts are solidly biased in favor of women. So there's less financial risk involved and they're more likely to be the one getting primary custody of the kids.
Basically, a man has to be more cautious about getting screwed in court and ending up in a situation where he loses the house, the kids, and has to pay his ex. The woman just doesn't experience that.
Mostly because they like to steal from men. If there was no alimony and the man got to keep everything that he paid for based on his income and assets, most women wouldn't divorce because the ones that like to steal from men wouldn't get married in the first place, knowing there would be no financial benefit from divorce.
A combination of feeling like I shouldered the majority of the responsibilities in the family as well as no emotional support or connection. I was there to bring a paycheck pay bills, care for our child and cook and clean. I tried so many times to foster a connection and he ignored me