Yes, if they believe that God is the Creator, the Uncaused-cause, the Unmoved-mover then they all believe in the same God. Whether or not one is 'righter' than the other is the great unknown. The existence of God is the only answer to the big question in life. Everything else is just guessing.
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We do lol i am a muslim we literally believe in a single god and we believe in jesus and his return we also believe in the three books torah injel and quran torah is the book of jews injel (bible) christians and quran is our book we believe they all came through prophets but they were changed by humans but the quran remains unchanged. This is the reason these three religions are called abrahamic religions as they stem from abraham and the worship of a higher entity.
No. I believe (as an atheist) they interpret holy scripture differently and therefore believe in a different version of a deity.
Personally I think the Greeks had the right idea with a polytheism belief in many Gods, with full stories etc, which can only be interpreted in one way... no arguments no religion based fights/wars.
But I do like Greek Mythology (just in case anyone points out it's a Myth, so is all religion without PROOF and having a story in a book isn't proof).
Anyway.. I digress. My little Yorkshire Terrier is called Zeus.
Judaism and Christianity has the same God. The attributes of the Islam God is different. Yes he is just one God, but the way you get to go heaven is completely different. Dying in a holy war is the only way you can be sure you will go to heaven with the Islam God. Christianity completes Judaism. Jesus came to complete the Jewish Law.
Yes - one God - same message but it got distorted over time. Judaism, Christianity and Islam are actually the same religion but each has been corrupted in its own way. This explains all the similarities and prophets/people which feature in the stories/books.
Yes. And all there religions originate in the same part of the world, and many characters from the Bible are also present in the Quran. The three religions are significantly different, but there are also quite a lot of similarities.
Yes. And it's Allah. There are verses Torah and Bible which told about coming of prophet Muhammad (pbuh) who claimed the same thing as Nuh, Isah, Moses, David, Yakoon etc etc and they all have one common God, Allah (in Arabic).
@Dargil there you go. Deuteronomy 18:18 and John 14:25-26, taken out of context and used to build an erroneous belief that Muhammad fulfilled Biblical prophecy.
“I [God] will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their brothers; I will put my words in his mouth, and he will tell them everything I command him.” Deuteronomy 18:18
“But the Counselor, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you.” John 14:25-26
Also, 'the Father' is referred to Allah who blessed Maryam the virgin with a son, Jesus. The holy spirit, Jibraheel (Gabriel) is the same who conveyed message of Allah to all the prophets including Isah (Jesus) and Muhammad (peace be upon them).
The character of the god of Islam and the God of Christianity are different. The God of Judaism and Christianity are the same but Judaism picks and chooses what prophets of the old testament to believe and ignore. All the prophets foretold of the coming Messiah, Judaism denies the Messiah.
There is no god. It's all made up crap that humans came up with long ago that had no idea about anything, but they were scared of death. So they came up with religion to make it seem like we go somewhere when we die while also making rules for people so they go to heaven or whatever to prevent chaos.
Not that I'm an expert, but as I understand it, while all three have different practices they all worship the same God.
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The same god but unfortunately Christians say there's 3 which is the dilemma and a not true. Jew says bad things about most profits and messenger.
To us as a Muslims we believe bible was holy book also Torah was holy book but with Time they changed the book as it fit their needs or whatever. also we are not true believer if we don't believe in essa aka Jesus we are not believers if we don't believe in Moses or any other messenger. To me there's only 1 god and his messengers that's all it's simple.
Christians don’t believe in three, there is only one God in three forms. God can do anything including be interested in three forms. This isn’t how a priest would explain it but this is how I think of it. By using my bad analogies, water can be liquid, gas or solid. Or, I can FaceTime someone and be physically in my home, my image on their mobile phone screen and my voice coming through the speaker. Yet I am still one person. Probably bad explanations but I thought I would try. Have a blessed day.
Technically yes. They're all Abrahamic religions as all of them can be traced to Abraham being the major figure in their religion. The Torah, the Qu'ran, and the Bible recognize Him as The God of Abraham.
Its all the same basic deity, yes, its just differences on how they view their deity, how they should worship said deity & the stories surrounding the deity.
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Yeah it's all the same one God just different interprations of jesus and other things. Then cathloics is again the same god but believe in the trinty thing.
Yes and no. It isn’t as simple as saying either. It comes down to understanding who God is and the understanding the relationship we have with him. As a Christian, I recognize God as Trinitarian, a mystery I cannot fully grasp as he is still one. The relationship I have with God is that as I am his son and he is my father, which I understand is considered blasphemous by Muslims.
Most religions are rooted in the same ideology style. They take their own spin and beliefs from there. It is very possible they are the same God or gods
No, we don't. Many might claim we do, but it isn't true. The God of the Bible is certainly not the same god as in the Quran. And expecting no fights to erupt over this is incredibly naive and negligent of, oh I don't know, human history.
Certainly. The God of the Bible is a God of forgiveness and salvation through faith, faith in Jesus Christ who is the Son of God, God himself made flesh as Scripture says; "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." -John 1:1 And; "Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.” -John 8:58 I AM, is how God identified Himself to Moses.
This is the most important difference, Muslims do not acknowledge Jesus as Son of God nor as God. They call Jesus a prophet, but nothing more. And the Bible is clear that those who deny the Son deny the Father, and without the Son one does not have the Father either. Additionally, Allah of the Quran is a god of demanding perfection and deeds to become righteous, rather than faith. To be saved in Islam you must lead the perfect live in accordance with all rules and religious routines. But this legalism is exactly what Jesus denounced the Pharisees for, for their faith was hollow and false and only for show. The God of the Bible sacrificed an aspect of Himself (the Son) so that mankind could become saved through the sacrifice on the Cross which cancelled out all our sin once and for all, and so we aren't saved through deeds and wordily pride but through faith in Jesus alone. Because no one, no one can be righteous and blameless on his own before God, it's impossible because God's standard is one so high and pure that humans cannot reach by themselves. But Jesus could and loved us so that He was willing to take the punishment for us.
Actually it's not entirely true, Islam demands both Faith and respect of Rutals which are quite simple (praying 5 times a day, fasting in Ramadan, giving Charity (Zakat), the proclamation of faith (Shahada) and doing Hajj Pilgrimage if you can). I'd argue Islam is in the middle, not as legalistic as Judaism with their thousands commandments , not as "freestyle" as Christianity. People who follow the rules on the outside but are disbelievers on the inside (no faith) are considered hypocrites (Munafiq) and it's a big sin. And certainly Muslims don't need to be sinless to go to heaven, we believe only prophets are sinless... According to our scriptures, a prostitute went to heaven for giving water to a stray dog. A man went to heaven simply for removing a hazardous tree from the road. At the day of judgement there is a balance of Bad vs Good deeds. And if the Good is equal to bad or exceeds the bad, you go to heaven otherwise you go to hell. And even hell isn't eternal for everyone. If you go to hell but a loved one is in heaven , he can ask god to get you out of hell and bring you to heaven. Etc..
@NorthAfrican Nothing surprising to me in that excerpt. And it didn't go against what I said. The day of Judgement in the Bible will be different for different groups of people, as in people who accepted Christ, people who did good but did not accept Christ, people who did evil and did not accept Christ. These will rise from the dead for judgement, but the faithful will rise to Salvation because we did not put our faith in ourselves and our deeds, as if pitiful human striving in this world towards claimed righteousness is what puts us right with God, no we trusted in the Messiah who paid the ultimate price for the very reason that deeds wouldn't be what got you into or kept you out of Heaven. Because God knows, that no one can achieve that as a human. Not us, not you Muslims. Your account of weighing good against bad deeds alike some market scale, that is a lie from Satan that cheapens the Holiness of God. As if we could buy passage into Zion with the sum total of paltry achievements on earth, because they were "good". No, the truth is that *no* sin can exist in God's presence, none, not the barest hint. He is Holy and perfect and only light, he does not shift from light to dark as the Bible say, He is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow. And no human is without sin, no one. No human can go through life without sinning and to claim so is to sin, partially in lying and partially in being a hypocrite. Thus Christ's sacrifice was needed. God already had empirical evidence from dealing with Israel that man could not be righteous through deeds alone.
The huge problem with claiming that a woman being kind to a stray went to heaven is that it removes focus from God's grace and Christ and focuses on the person as if they are righteous in themselves. But the same woman will have sinned as well in her life, lied, cheated, stolen, even murdered. And yet her one action grants the Kingdom of Heaven? It makes no sense with God's nature that way.
Why did God need to send his own son to die for us? That sounds like a Human sacrifice that many pagans at the time did.. What about being accountable for your own deeds and not have someone else be punished for what you did? Sounds a bit immoral to me tbh
@NorthAfrican I explained exactly why He needed to do it. So you can simply reread my comment in that case. And it was far, far from pagan rituals. Pagans sacrificed animals and themselves to appease their gods, God sacrificed Himself for His own children that they might not perish but have eternal life, a perfect and unending love, Agape. Nowhere, in no other religion or faith in this world, has a deity done so for his creation. As for immorality; Waging war on all unbelievers simply because they are unbelievers as your text says, sounds very immoral to me. As does the passage that calls for forcing Jews you meet on the street to "take the narrowest path", and the practice of Taqqiyya wherein you are allowed to lie and deny your very faith if it benefits you and keeps you from death and persecution. Seems quite cowardly to me. Certainly compared to what early Christian apostles went through willingly, and how the Bible bids us to count it joy when we endure trials for the reward is all the greater in Heaven.
Furthermore, if you really think it immoral, then you disagree with your own holy book. "ye have no ground to stand upon unless ye stand fast by the Law, the Gospel, and all the revelation that has come to you from your Lord." -Sura 5: verse 68 The Quran itself acknowledges the Bible as real and faultless. And if that is the case, then Islam is wrong, but if that isn't the case, then the Quran is telling you to obey something wrong, which still makes Islam wrong.
I have finals rn but imma reply to this soon in a few days There is many misunderstandings and even false info in here But ir could be a good conversation
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Yes, if they believe that God is the Creator, the Uncaused-cause, the Unmoved-mover then they all believe in the same God. Whether or not one is 'righter' than the other is the great unknown. The existence of God is the only answer to the big question in life. Everything else is just guessing.
We do lol i am a muslim we literally believe in a single god and we believe in jesus and his return we also believe in the three books
torah injel and quran
torah is the book of jews
injel (bible) christians
and quran is our book we believe they all came through prophets but they were changed by humans but the quran remains unchanged. This is the reason these three religions are called abrahamic religions as they stem from abraham and the worship of a higher entity.
No. I believe (as an atheist) they interpret holy scripture differently and therefore believe in a different version of a deity.
Personally I think the Greeks had the right idea with a polytheism belief in many Gods, with full stories etc, which can only be interpreted in one way... no arguments no religion based fights/wars.
But I do like Greek Mythology (just in case anyone points out it's a Myth, so is all religion without PROOF and having a story in a book isn't proof).
Anyway.. I digress. My little Yorkshire Terrier is called Zeus.
Judaism and Christianity has the same God. The attributes of the Islam God is different. Yes he is just one God, but the way you get to go heaven is completely different. Dying in a holy war is the only way you can be sure you will go to heaven with the Islam God. Christianity completes Judaism. Jesus came to complete the Jewish Law.
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lol I asked this question because there is odd thing I learned.
Translate (God) into Jesus language.
God isn't really his name. God is what He is, but his name is Yahweh. Gods name in Islam is Ali. Jesus is the son of Yahweh.
I know god is not name.
But translate word God to Jesus’s language. Hehe
If you got a link to an article, post it, and I'll take a look at it.
@syncheart
Ok
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https://glosbe.com/en/arc
Jesus isn't a language. So what am I translating it too? Greek?
I ment Aramaic
Is this what you wanted me to do?
Maybe try this link:
https://postimg.cc/D4PvQgkY
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Weird right?
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What do you find weird about it?
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Yes - one God - same message but it got distorted over time. Judaism, Christianity and Islam are actually the same religion but each has been corrupted in its own way. This explains all the similarities and prophets/people which feature in the stories/books.
Yes. And all there religions originate in the same part of the world, and many characters from the Bible are also present in the Quran. The three religions are significantly different, but there are also quite a lot of similarities.
Yes. And it's Allah. There are verses Torah and Bible which told about coming of prophet Muhammad (pbuh) who claimed the same thing as Nuh, Isah, Moses, David, Yakoon etc etc and they all have one common God, Allah (in Arabic).
Yakoob*
Nonsense. Precise links, please. Betting you also have the rhetoric that Jesus never said he was G0d. Well, he did.
@Dargil are you a Christian?
@Dargil there you go.
Deuteronomy 18:18 and John 14:25-26, taken out of context and used to build an erroneous belief that Muhammad fulfilled Biblical prophecy.
“I [God] will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their brothers; I will put my words in his mouth, and he will tell them everything I command him.” Deuteronomy 18:18
“But the Counselor, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you.” John 14:25-26
Also, 'the Father' is referred to Allah who blessed Maryam the virgin with a son, Jesus. The holy spirit, Jibraheel (Gabriel) is the same who conveyed message of Allah to all the prophets including Isah (Jesus) and Muhammad (peace be upon them).
Absolutely.
As a muslim i would say yeah, we do. Its just the text that we were given and what prophet we think is right
The character of the god of Islam and the God of Christianity are different.
The God of Judaism and Christianity are the same but Judaism picks and chooses what prophets of the old testament to believe and ignore. All the prophets foretold of the coming Messiah, Judaism denies the Messiah.
There is no god. It's all made up crap that humans came up with long ago that had no idea about anything, but they were scared of death. So they came up with religion to make it seem like we go somewhere when we die while also making rules for people so they go to heaven or whatever to prevent chaos.
Not that I'm an expert, but as I understand it, while all three have different practices they all worship the same God.
The same god but unfortunately Christians say there's 3 which is the dilemma and a not true. Jew says bad things about most profits and messenger.
To us as a Muslims we believe bible was holy book also Torah was holy book but with Time they changed the book as it fit their needs or whatever. also we are not true believer if we don't believe in essa aka Jesus we are not believers if we don't believe in Moses or any other messenger. To me there's only 1 god and his messengers that's all it's simple.
Christians don’t believe in three, there is only one God in three forms. God can do anything including be interested in three forms. This isn’t how a priest would explain it but this is how I think of it. By using my bad analogies, water can be liquid, gas or solid. Or, I can FaceTime someone and be physically in my home, my image on their mobile phone screen and my voice coming through the speaker. Yet I am still one person. Probably bad explanations but I thought I would try. Have a blessed day.
So the son is the god and the god is the son himself?
They are one in the same. One God.
Technically yes. They're all Abrahamic religions as all of them can be traced to Abraham being the major figure in their religion. The Torah, the Qu'ran, and the Bible recognize Him as The God of Abraham.
Its all the same basic deity, yes, its just differences on how they view their deity, how they should worship said deity & the stories surrounding the deity.
Yeah it's all the same one God just different interprations of jesus and other things. Then cathloics is again the same god but believe in the trinty thing.
Yes and no. It isn’t as simple as saying either. It comes down to understanding who God is and the understanding the relationship we have with him. As a Christian, I recognize God as Trinitarian, a mystery I cannot fully grasp as he is still one. The relationship I have with God is that as I am his son and he is my father, which I understand is considered blasphemous by Muslims.
We Muslims believe to Jesus but he is a prophet. He was not God. Allah (God) is one and Allah (God) is perfect.
Most religions are rooted in the same ideology style. They take their own spin and beliefs from there. It is very possible they are the same God or gods
don't know this one, but, and a big but, all the world it seems go by date, AD/BC,
I ask the question Why
I’m a Catholic so don’t come for me lol.
i think we definitely have similar beliefs but people just have different names etc. I believe it all branches from the same initial belief
my condolences for being catholic
@Rob17792 don’t be like that. I am happy. God bless.
No, we don't. Many might claim we do, but it isn't true. The God of the Bible is certainly not the same god as in the Quran. And expecting no fights to erupt over this is incredibly naive and negligent of, oh I don't know, human history.
Can you explain why god of bible is not same?
Certainly. The God of the Bible is a God of forgiveness and salvation through faith, faith in Jesus Christ who is the Son of God, God himself made flesh as Scripture says; "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."
-John 1:1
And; "Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.”
-John 8:58
I AM, is how God identified Himself to Moses.
This is the most important difference, Muslims do not acknowledge Jesus as Son of God nor as God. They call Jesus a prophet, but nothing more. And the Bible is clear that those who deny the Son deny the Father, and without the Son one does not have the Father either. Additionally, Allah of the Quran is a god of demanding perfection and deeds to become righteous, rather than faith. To be saved in Islam you must lead the perfect live in accordance with all rules and religious routines. But this legalism is exactly what Jesus denounced the Pharisees for, for their faith was hollow and false and only for show. The God of the Bible sacrificed an aspect of Himself (the Son) so that mankind could become saved through the sacrifice on the Cross which cancelled out all our sin once and for all, and so we aren't saved through deeds and wordily pride but through faith in Jesus alone. Because no one, no one can be righteous and blameless on his own before God, it's impossible because God's standard is one so high and pure that humans cannot reach by themselves. But Jesus could and loved us so that He was willing to take the punishment for us.
Spot on... I couldn't have said this better.
@Andres77 Why thank you, God bless.
Actually it's not entirely true, Islam demands both Faith and respect of Rutals which are quite simple (praying 5 times a day, fasting in Ramadan, giving Charity (Zakat), the proclamation of faith (Shahada) and doing Hajj Pilgrimage if you can).
I'd argue Islam is in the middle, not as legalistic as Judaism with their thousands commandments , not as "freestyle" as Christianity. People who follow the rules on the outside but are disbelievers on the inside (no faith) are considered hypocrites (Munafiq) and it's a big sin.
And certainly Muslims don't need to be sinless to go to heaven, we believe only prophets are sinless... According to our scriptures, a prostitute went to heaven for giving water to a stray dog. A man went to heaven simply for removing a hazardous tree from the road. At the day of judgement there is a balance of Bad vs Good deeds. And if the Good is equal to bad or exceeds the bad, you go to heaven otherwise you go to hell. And even hell isn't eternal for everyone.
If you go to hell but a loved one is in heaven , he can ask god to get you out of hell and bring you to heaven. Etc..
@NorthAfrican Nothing surprising to me in that excerpt. And it didn't go against what I said. The day of Judgement in the Bible will be different for different groups of people, as in people who accepted Christ, people who did good but did not accept Christ, people who did evil and did not accept Christ. These will rise from the dead for judgement, but the faithful will rise to Salvation because we did not put our faith in ourselves and our deeds, as if pitiful human striving in this world towards claimed righteousness is what puts us right with God, no we trusted in the Messiah who paid the ultimate price for the very reason that deeds wouldn't be what got you into or kept you out of Heaven. Because God knows, that no one can achieve that as a human. Not us, not you Muslims. Your account of weighing good against bad deeds alike some market scale, that is a lie from Satan that cheapens the Holiness of God. As if we could buy passage into Zion with the sum total of paltry achievements on earth, because they were "good". No, the truth is that *no* sin can exist in God's presence, none, not the barest hint. He is Holy and perfect and only light, he does not shift from light to dark as the Bible say, He is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow. And no human is without sin, no one. No human can go through life without sinning and to claim so is to sin, partially in lying and partially in being a hypocrite. Thus Christ's sacrifice was needed. God already had empirical evidence from dealing with Israel that man could not be righteous through deeds alone.
The huge problem with claiming that a woman being kind to a stray went to heaven is that it removes focus from God's grace and Christ and focuses on the person as if they are righteous in themselves. But the same woman will have sinned as well in her life, lied, cheated, stolen, even murdered. And yet her one action grants the Kingdom of Heaven? It makes no sense with God's nature that way.
Why did God need to send his own son to die for us? That sounds like a Human sacrifice that many pagans at the time did.. What about being accountable for your own deeds and not have someone else be punished for what you did? Sounds a bit immoral to me tbh
@NorthAfrican I explained exactly why He needed to do it. So you can simply reread my comment in that case. And it was far, far from pagan rituals. Pagans sacrificed animals and themselves to appease their gods, God sacrificed Himself for His own children that they might not perish but have eternal life, a perfect and unending love, Agape. Nowhere, in no other religion or faith in this world, has a deity done so for his creation. As for immorality; Waging war on all unbelievers simply because they are unbelievers as your text says, sounds very immoral to me. As does the passage that calls for forcing Jews you meet on the street to "take the narrowest path", and the practice of Taqqiyya wherein you are allowed to lie and deny your very faith if it benefits you and keeps you from death and persecution. Seems quite cowardly to me. Certainly compared to what early Christian apostles went through willingly, and how the Bible bids us to count it joy when we endure trials for the reward is all the greater in Heaven.
Furthermore, if you really think it immoral, then you disagree with your own holy book. "ye have no ground to stand upon unless ye stand fast by the Law, the Gospel, and all the revelation that has come to you from your Lord."
-Sura 5: verse 68
The Quran itself acknowledges the Bible as real and faultless. And if that is the case, then Islam is wrong, but if that isn't the case, then the Quran is telling you to obey something wrong, which still makes Islam wrong.
I have finals rn but imma reply to this soon in a few days
There is many misunderstandings and even false info in here
But ir could be a good conversation
If you want to pursue the discussion further then DM me instead. I don't want to continue a thread indefinitely.