Is sexual harassment on the streets due to provocative clothing or the mentality of men? Explain? (Page 2)
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I've been "cat called" by women before (jokingly of course), but really I think it's the mentality of a lonely asshole. I don't think most men ever at all and it seems like the ones that do are usually ugly and creepy. They probably think they're hot shit but no girl wants them.
it's stupid Stupid STUPID men. Guys really are stupid sometimes for example guys will hoot their horn if they see a girl running, that's brilliant that is guys make her feel uncomfortable about going running you fucking retard. It really pisses me off when girls make an effort to look great or keep fit and they get the jeering primitive retarded male treatment. Men need to ask themselves the following: do we want girls to look sexy and go out dressed nice? OF COURSE WE DO, so why make them feel uncomfortable? If we do that then they're less likely to go out dressed sexy and sometimes they even lose self respect and don't look after themselves as the reward for doing so seems to be getting harassed by morons. Men should treat scantily clad and sexily dressed ladies with respect. In my opinion there is no outfit too slutty, no skirt too short and no top too tight, ladies should be allowed to dress like this without fear of being treated badly.
Both. Technically women shouldn't be blamed for the harassment they receive on the streets, but there are idiots who genuinely see provocative clothing as an invitation to sexually harass, assault, or rape women. While women should be free to wear what they want without worrying about being harassed, the reality is that idiots like these exist and you can take preventative measures to avoid this kind of attention. For example, don't wear a belt-sized skirt in a dark alley.
even if they were naked there is no reason in the world that can justify these harassments.. even us Muslim gals we wear hijab and sometimes niqab but still doesn't make any difference... so no clothing it's just their sick mentality to try making that the reason but really women should wear decent clothes
Mentality, I've been cat called with only my arms being out. And that's happened more than once, so, unless there are a lot of arm fetish guys in my area, it seriously doesn't matter what a woman wears. Guys who catcall will find a way to draw attention to themselves.
I remember when I was 11 years old (before I'd even started puberty), I was standing by the sidewalk and some guy who was probably in his mid 20's pulled over next to me and he and his friends were honking the horn and yelling out the windows how fine I was and to come over and chat. Mind you I was wearing jeans a thick sweatshirt and sneakers. It really scared me, so I have to say in some cases it's a mentality regardless of what a girl is wearing.
I think that men should be responsible for themselves and what a girl's wearing is no excuse for them, however girls should also be prudent and know what wearing certain things makes it harder for men. I think on both accounts it's a matter of both self-respect and a respect for others.
1. Sexual harassment is not something that only men do. 2. Sexual harassment has nothing to do with what you wear. I never wear "provocative" clothing and I have been sexually harassed before... Your clothing doesn't have anything to do with someone else's mentality and morals. s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/.../...af503a71c2.jpg
1. Yes
2. The clothing that a person wears does excuse the actions of the harasser. However, making oneself stand out in a crowd due to clothing choices or behavior may increase the likelihood of being harassed.
@WalterBlack it does not excuse sexual harassment
@ASEXY Thank you for correcting me. That is what I was trying to say but I missed one important word.
@WalterBlack no problem man, we all make mistakes.
I say mentality because some people always try to sexualize things. for instance I could whip out my breast and feed my child... a small percentage may think it's normal while others believe it's nasty or think dirty things. it doesn't matter what I wear. like when I was high school I never understood why exposing my shoulder was so damning. I didn't know a shoulder, a knee or even an ankle turned people on. so yes. mentality is the issue.
It comes from the mentality of some asshole men. It is definitely made worse by privative clothing but privative clothing alone would not cause catcalling from most men. You might still be asked to out more clothing on by some men if your clothes are particularly provacative and they are uncomfortable
I'd say it's a bit of both. However, I'm not sure shouting "Hey you have a nice ___" is a form of sexual harassment. Maybe it is, but I at least hope you're not one of those people who think if a man greets you or calls you beautiful, he's sexually harassing you.
I think shouting something at a stranger is generally probably inappropriate and kinda creepy, unless it's like an emergency situation. Like guys who shout stuff out of car windows and the like.
Yeah it's obviously inappropriate. Creepy? I don't know about that, but then again, I'm not scared of people. It may very well be different for others and I respect that. I just don't think it's "sexual harassment". I personally don't do this because I'm just naturally not that kind of person, and I know it can be frustrating or even ruin a woman's day.
Thats like the clothing little girls wear makes pedophiles.
No it's the mentality of men. I wear something slutty (and I have) and none of my guy friends try to rape me despite the clothing.
It's a mentality, it is also more of an act of violence then it is about sex.
If someone's a perv, he's going to harass people whether they look "slutty" or more conservative. I've been catcalled while wearing shorts and a top, I've been catcalled while wearing a pretty long coat, I've been catcalled wearing a hoodie. How you dress doesn't affect that much.
Both how the men are raised and how the women are raised play a role. Women today are raised to just wear whatever they want, regardless of occasion, and flaunt whatever they want to flaunt, without caring about other people. I'm just saying... it would be harder for men to sexually harrass girls on the street if they can't see anything.
You'd be surprised - I've been harassed with nothing but my eyes showing.
It's none of those... usually it's the overall attractiveness of the lady to the catcaller. Some other things can factor but they usually are douchebags but even a douchebag won't catcall unless you look a certain way. So clothing is a factor and mentality is a factor but neither are the sole reasons.
I think clothing has more of a pull, doesn't make it her fault but it is still how attractive you look in those clothes that matter.
I'm surprised some women voted for clothing, so it's your fault for dressing however you want, and not the fault of some creepy perv?
I disagree, you could go out wearing nothing but a leopard print thong, and still, that does not make it your fault if a man harass you
it's the mentality of men thinking that provocative clothing says something about a person, when it shouldn't. If they wish to wear something, they should be free to without being sexually harassed, which should be taught to everyone. Love yourself, and don't make rude comments on the street people!
When a woman dresses like a slut, it doesn't mean she is one, but it can be very confusing. You could walk out in the street dressed in a police officers uniform. That doesn't mean you are actually a police officer, but that's what people will think. When a woman goes out dressed in revealing clothing, that doesn't mean she is a slut, but that's the impression she's giving.
no, it's not. It's women liking what they wear and their body parts. I unfortunately don't have enough self confidence to want to wear revealing clothing, even when it suits my body. I much prefer conservative clothing simply because I am self conscious about my body. My sister on the other hand is confident and likes looking her best, even if it means wearing short shorts and exposing her belly. BUT she does not do it for guys attention, or anyone else's for that matter, she does it because she likes looking her best, showing off her great body. If people automatically think that they should judge a person's want for sexual attention just based on clothes, then they need to learn manners, we don't need to dress differently to suit your expectations.
But that's a lie and you know it. Women who dress in revealing clothing know perfectly well they are doing it for attention. Some of the clothing they wear is uncomfortable, but they do it anyway. It's obvious they do it for attention, even though they will deny it.
It might be for some few, but on the most part we dress up and look good FOR OURSELVES. It has nothing to do with attention from others. I am envious of women who are confident enough to wear nice clothes like that, or bikinis at the beach, because I probably will never have the confidence to.
Sorry, still don't believe you. Women dress in revealing clothing for attention and only a moron would think they do it for themselves.
Mentality. If women in Saudi Arabia or other places where they're covered head to toe are groped and harassed, it's definitely not the clothes.
However, although it's probably more men, there's female harassers too. So mentality of the individual doing the harassing
Nobody deserves to be harassed.
You can't blame a guy for looking but he has no right to comment on her choice of clothing or touch her.
If he's really liking what he sees, a better option is to just ask for her number or try to talk to her in a non-pervy way.
I think it is largely due to the porn industries representation of women, hell scientists concluded that all men watch porn after they couldnt find a single man who hadn't. Also the media in general tend to sexualise women, probably because of porn as well. I dont think its mens fault, but it happens largely because of men.