Do you see people who commit suicide, as people with mental problems?

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A friend of my younger cousins, just committed suicide this week and she and her other friends are putting all these good things about him on Facebook. One person even started a gofund me page to help his parents pay for the funeral costs, I read the page and everything everyone close to him said leads to the conclusion that he was a good hearted, happy and funny guy. You're probably wondering what that has to do with my question, well all that got me thinking about something someone said to me once.

I had a friend I met online (on here actually, through another friend on here). Anyway, when we were friends we'd e-mail each other and one time we were talking about me being bullied and she said something about it that I took offense to, which lead to me asking about the bully victims that commit suicide, which led to her saying something about "people who commit suicide have mental problems" Hence, the current question I'm asking.

I get people take psychology classes and they've done case studies on this stuff, so studying the brain led to that analysis. However, what text books and science don't take into consideration are people and the pain they hold inside and the events that caused it. Sometimes that pain is mangeable and sometimes it's too hard to live with, which was obviously the case with my cousins friend.

So, I wonder how you could read about someone who was happy but committed suicide and think "they just had brain problems"? How could you not instead think "they must have been really hurting"?

My question in all this is, do you really see a suicide victim as a person with mental issues? I mean, are we such an uncompassionate and unsympathetic world that that's how we view tradegies like this? I don't see it that way, do you?

pooper89 · Accepted Answer

One of my friends committed suicide in 2016 and for a moment I felt I had something to do with it. I remembered the last time I had hung out with him. And I felt I had led him on.
I’ve seen that show 13 Reasons Why.
Honestly I was pretty awkward in high school. I had no friends and I had social anxiety so talking to other kids was like... really really difficult. I was alone. But I never thought about killing myself. I think because I had an out of school activity that I basically lived for.
I think maybe having something to live for helps. But if you center your life around your social interactions or lack thereof, then I guess I can see why someone might kill themselves because they feel like an outcast. I guess in high school for me, being socially inept wasn’t as big of a deal as maybe it should have been because I had something else to focus on.
I’m guilty of watching someone get bullied and just sitting there watching and not doin anything about it. I’ve been a bully myself a time or two. We’re all human. You can’t beat yourself up over someone else’s decision to hurt themselves.
It’s just like anything else in life... don’t worry about shit you have no control over. Yeah it sucks and we should all treat people with respect and kindness but the reality is that the world is a cruel and unfair place. And the reality is that suicide is someone’s permanent solution to a temporary problem. And the reality is also that if someone really wants to kill themselves, there’s really nothing anyone can do to stop it. Is it tragic? Yes? Was I sad when I found out my friend had taken his own life? Yeah of course. But there’s nothing you can do so it’s not worth losing sleep over

Hidden_P · Accepted Answer

I don't think it necessarily means mental health problems but I do suck my teeth when I see these crowd funding pages. Plenty of people are alive with mental health and equally stress can lead someone to suicide. Suicide is a state of mind, not a state of mental health necessarily.

My grandfather died 3 months ago. He had dementia, he was 94. On the one hand he was old and did well. On the other, we had to pay £3,000 per month for his nursing home care and his funeral was about £3,500. Where was my crowdfunding?

If that doesn't spin ya, what about this one.

My brother died when my mum was 4 months pregnant with me. He was 4 years 10 months old. He got ecoli. Where was his crowdfunding page? Nowhere.

What pisses me off is whether it was someone's time, someone's choice, an accident or downright unfair, what qualifies someone to a paid funeral over someone else?

I never give to pages like this for that reason.

peachblossomluck · Accepted Answer

Life isn't fair and they see it in a brutally clear light. Past experience like trauma make it worse. Chemical imbalance is the medical reality and needs to be corrected and yet it's a much bigger problem. How can a person with these struggles not become overwhelmed by them at times? I refuse to believe it couldn't happen to the most unlikely people because I'm known them:(

BellePepper · Accepted Answer

People who commit suicide are not healthy. Anyone who has been there can tell you that. It's not a matter of being mean to those people. It's the truth that we need to admit so we're better able to get those people the help they need.

steveguitar · Accepted Answer

No I don't junk it is about mental problems. I think a lot of that thinking has to do with the 'be this or be that" attitude that I see coming from the united States.

They may have had problems, but that doesn't mean that they would have committed suicide.

It's not easy being someone who doesn't succeed in life, or professional because things other people say or do to you. Or things the did to you as a child that follow you around still.

It's not easy being painted in a certain light by loud individuals and having everyone laugh at your expense. humans don't know how to handle that. They don't know how to talk about it with people who wouldn't understand. It's embarrassing for the thing to happen to them and embarrassing for them to speak about it. How do you say, mom people are making fun of me, and look weak to your mom? Besides what can she do about it?

There are many things that I was made fun of for as a kid, some still follow me around today, I still hate it. I'm not going to kill myself over those things, but my life isn't a shining example of getting over those things either.

There are many reason why I hate society, socializing, and being around humans in general. I have done everything they suggested and haven't found success. But they forced me to go through everything I went through, there weren't any options. So the only time I really find that I am happy is by myself or with one friend. And even with that one friend I don't know how to really communicate well with her, and it sucks.

But these kids don't have mental health problems, they have problems with humans and the things humans created which they can't escape.

Trentonator · Accepted Answer

I believe it can be a mental disorder. I think, however, in most cases it simply stems from people not a bieng able to express themselves. Running and hiding from the people that love you the most is all too often a pattern I am seeing... I posted an opinion on the YouTube shooting, you put up, yesterday and I think it's kind of similar but different at the same time. Instead of wanting people to feel what they feel, they want no one to... People need to express themselves in a healthy way in order to remain healthy. I don't know whether or not you saw the series 13 Reasons Why, but if you notice the main character in that show avoided almost every single opportunity she had to express her feelings to another human being, even her parents who desperately wanted to help her... The only point in which she ever expressed her feelings correctly was on a series of audio tapes she made right before she killed herself. Do I think some people have an inablitly to express themselves though mental disorders? Yes... But I believe lack of expression is still the reason. Talk to people, listen to them, care about what they are going though, and you may be surprised how many "happy" people are dying inside. After all, isn't that what you would want anyone else to do for you?

MazeOfLove · Answer

I don't think that everyone who commits suicide is crazy. This is an interesting article that explains why but the gist of it is this: People see and value life differently. Someone could be perfectly sane and just decide that they've had enough of the daily grind of life.

www.elephantjournal.com/.../

existing_not_living · Answer

I've tried on multiple occasions to commit suicide. I am also dealing with a lot of mental illnesses. People who try to kill themselves aren't trying to be selfish and they aren't doing it because they don't want to live anymore. They do it because they don't want to feel pain anymore. Mental pain is a thousand times worse than getting your arm or leg broken.

Anonymous · Answer

One of the people I loved most in this world took his own life. I'm not any kind of mental health professional, but he was abused as a child, he saw himself as worthless. That can't be good for anyone's mental health. So, I don't know if people that commit suicide have mental problems, but they must be in a dark place in that moment.

DaddiesLittleToy · Answer

No. I don't believe that mental illnesses are caused by chemical imbalances in the brain. Also, there is no scientif evidence proving that any "mental illness" is directly caused by any chemical imbalances. I just think humans go through rough shit, and get into bad mental/physical habits. I think that people who commit suicide were simply hurting severely and didn't know how to overcome it.

MaiNameIsSunshine · Answer

Actually, if you think about it from a biological or evolutionary psychology perspective you definitely need to have mental problems. The purpose of everything we do is to stay alive and continue the human race, not to die.

itsallover · Answer

When our existence as humans is dedicated to trying to survive, the desire to take your own life is definitely not normal and is a sign that something isn't right mentally.

Joyflow · Answer

No I don't think that they have mental problems... like you I think that they are hurting too much and that pain clouds their judgement.

bente2 · Answer

Really hurting and not doing something about can be a mental problem. Mental problems also consist of emotional problems in my opinion, but I see hwere you're coming from.

l8rry · Answer

there are some cases where depression is caused by purely physical things like lack of chemicals in the brain which can be solved by medicine - that is a mental problem, but most of the time, no it is not a mental problem

xCutesyLolitax · Answer

yeah i see it that way. I dont see how thinking that this person had brain problems contradicts thinking that they were hurting. I think both

WhereAmI · Answer

I see them as people without hope and faith (at least if your christian). Can mental illness play a significant role? Yes. Is it among all suicide candidates? No.

KnightCross · Answer

i think suicide has something to do with choice. even though mental issues can facilitate that mistake

Anonymous · Answer

I think people mainly commit suicide because they feel like their lives are meaningless or because they are in a lot of pain. I hate when people try to minimize what the person was going through. Some may have mental issues, but not all.

FranSpace · Answer

Mental and emotional problems go hand in hand more often than not. This is especially true when it comes to these kinds of feelings.

Angel1106b · Answer

In my opinion I don't think they have mental problems something probably made them feel horrible and not want to live.

Trollfather · Answer

Yes. Get help right away if you're feeling suicidal.

Waffles731 · Answer

Yeah I do, having attempted it twice

Anonymous · Answer

1000 men commit suicide - No one cares 1 woman commits suicide - Everyone suddenly gives a shit Thanks, society!

dwiller943 · Answer

For the most part, yes.

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