I think if someone wants an exclusively one race community they should find like minded people, put their funds together and set up a commune somewhere out in the middle of no where.
What about kids growing up in these communities? a) Won't they be brainwashed, and b) Imagine one of them falls in love with someone from a different zone? You'll have a Rome and Juliet situation on your hands.
Children are brainwashed now. Racism is taught. It is learned. And in these "zones", racists can teach their children whatever they wish. I don't think every child we will choose ignorance however. I think they will have problems keeping young ones in their zones. They may have to erect some barriers.
I dunno. Ask the racists? If a "White" is created, ask them. Will they stop their children from leaving? Will they force their citizens to stay or return?
The same goes for if there is a "Black" zone. Or an American Indian zone. Or a Asian zone.
It is up to the zones. Not to the regular population.
I see I need to create another thread because people here keep asking me the questions they never ask of racists. I did not invent race. I am not a racist. I couldn't tell you a single thing about how these zones would be run, what the rules would be, etc.
But you have asked the ultimate question.
1. What is race? I don't know. Ask the racists.
2. What would be the requirements for entry. I have no idea. I have no idea about how a racist would certify a "White" person. Would it be a genetic test? Would they have to prove this through lineage? Would there just be a physical exam? I don't know and I don't care. It's their show. The same goes for the "Black" zone, Asian zone, Latino zone. . .
3. Will there be exemptions? Like could someone like Candace Owens get an exemption and live in the "White" zone with her husband? I don't know. That's up to the racists. Maybe they will let her stay as long as they had no children.
This is a perfect opportunity for racists to show the world exactly what they have been misunderstood about for so long. Racists have always said they are just misunderstood.
No, it doesn't. Think about it. A racist dude can go home. And when he turns on the television, he won't see CNN, MSNBC, BET, HBO, STARZ or any of those media/hollywood channels that he claims cause him so much pain. He can have Turner Class movies, Fox News, One America News Network. . .
He can have a utopia where everyone understands him and he understand everyone else. It would be the nice quiet community that racist claim would be possible without SJWs and "Black" folks and stuff like that.
Roland, I don't know if you are doing some extended sarcasm here. But why is that a good thing? Because those racist white people anyway think that America is their brain-child. So what is the future of America? Not this for sure.
I say let us have racists become uncomfortable, let us have dialogues, let us have the protests and let us do all that's needed to change this nonsense.
Why is it a bad thing? That's what I don't understand. Which racist person have you reformed at GaG? I mean racists are dedicated folks. You have racists here who create multiple accounts just to stir up trouble. They create dozens of threads a day. They call you names and when you are offended they mock you for being offended. If you call them a name back, they become your victim. They will use any dirty trick, any lie, any form of instigation to create problems.
And I figure why not give them what they keep saying they want.
A person who can't see another human as a human, but as a sum of stereotypes, who sees others only by their usefulness to him, shouldn't be let off to have their own country. And sure enough from that "Utopia" they are going to come and create trouble in other places as well if it benefits them. Why should they have that Utopia? It's time to contain the bullshit where it started.
Well, racists as it is wield considerable power. That's why "Black" people can be killed with no accountability. It is just a logical rational conclusion.
So I say get them out of the equation so we can get to doing what we have to do.
Learning to live with one another. Why do we keep thinking we can convince racists?
They do not want to be convinced. In fact, they do not even want to lose the source of the racism.
Of course he is. And again I ask what racist have you ever reformed. A racist isn't a victim any longer after being exposed to the truth again and again.
They have modified their belief system so that objective truth and facts have no effect on them.
So why are we dealing with their attempt to sabotage what you and I have to figure out.
I keep telling you, we have work to do. This is not easy. Understanding each other, relating to each other is hard work.
It's not the solution, in my opinion. It's exactly the type of thing that will make things worse. The solution is to not encourage the type of thinking. But we can agree to disagree here.
One thing we know. Doing noting will make things decidedly worse. I thought these riots would just be in Minneapolis. Then I spent three days talking to angry "Black" folks in my community, trying to clam people down. We have to fix this.
I've been thinking of this. And I think this whole issue is a combination of 1. the frustration the police feel in dealing with community violence often which makes their job harder on a daily basis, and 2. officers like Derek Chauvin who don't have any humanity in them that end up killing black men because of all the pent up frustration.
It's unfair that good men in these communities also have to be seen with the trouble makers. So solving the gang violence is important to fixing the apathy people feel towards black men, because it fixes the general reputation of these areas. Even here on GaG when discussing this, I was asked in another thread -- "How many black men kill black men?" And I understand why the question even came to his mind.
Are black neighborhoods becoming better or worse day by day? Does the government treat these communities fairly in terms of the resources they give? What are the real challenges? I feel this entire country needs education on the experiences that blacks have felt as a community.
Well, I don't think getting better stats will do anything to stop folks from being racist. In terms of these communities, I am kind of a self-empowerment kind of guy. The "Black" community has tremendous wealth. But so many "Blacks" see no responsibility back to the community. That has to change.
I don't live where I am because I have to. I choose to.
The last three nights I was out in the streets. Two nights ago, I encountered a group of young, angry "Black" folk. We must have talked for four hours.
They just do not care. They are constantly fed the lie that no matter what they do it does not matter. It does not matter if they go to school, it does not matter if they steal, it does not matter if they become find jobs.
They will be considered garbage. The police will still treat them unfairly. They will still be labeled as thugs. They will be seen as the worst.
That's why they do not care about "Black" businesses. Why should they?
Who is feeding them this garbage that, nothing they do matters. They don't care about voting. they don't care about trying to build anything. They just want to see it all burn.
Right, because the system always works against them. I understand Roland, I'll be more vocal about this. I think when we protest for others, the movement becomes stronger. Silence is the enemy of this as well.
It's sad that they think what they do won't matter. Shouldn't they be inspired by stories of people who've made it great from humbler beginnings?
Agreed. But what do you think the primary channels for such a message are? Elders? TV? Also, do you see that people in such neighborhoods can make a difference if they wanted to, or is the establishment (government and the system that's in place) the thing that's holding them back?
We ARE guaranteed "freedom of association." Forcing people together with different cultures and values insures nothing but conflict. Multiculturalism has destroyed every culture that's tried it.
Not to mention the logistical nightmare of enforcing it in the first place which would violate basic human rights. Imagine telling someone they have to leave their town of birth because they are black because only white people will be allowed to live there now. How will you make her leave? Will you pay for her house? Get her another job? Move her stuff? However you imagine it's it ends up being a disaster. Imagine the uproar over enforcing this and the atrocities which would happen in the process.
Enforcing? What do "we" need to enforce? Racists have to enforce the weird racist laws in their areas. You say we would have entire towns of racists. It is like that now. This will be a perfect opportunity for racists to prove their whole Master Race theory. If there is a "Black" zone, they would have to figure out would a child in their zone could leave or not. Maybe the cutoff age is 17 or something. I dunno. Their problem, not "ours".
And I think you totally misunderstand. Segregation is a voluntary act.
Also, I didn't vote. While I disagree with the idea I don't think it is necessarily stupid. At least you are looking for a solution and stimulating debate.
No that was forced segregation. Racist tried to force their laws on people who wanted nothing to do with insane crazy as batshit racism. The thing is right now you can believe whatever you want. You already have almost totally exclusive "White" towns, etc.
That isn't good enough.
So I introduce a compromise. I agree, we will never persuade fruitcake racists to abandon their beliefs. Here is a way you can continue your "race".
Because racism is not dependent upon what I do. You don't know me from yesterday. Yet you are a racist.
That's not just insane.
Its stupid.
So since I can't convince you of logic. Of fact. Of truth. I compromise with you on setting up a community where you can preach these insane ideals. You can control your media. You can outlaw interracial relationships. You can do all you need to make you feel safe.
Well maybe an area for vegans and their various "nut" milks. There's no such thing, because nuts don't have tits. I know enough to know that you need a mammal's breast for milk...
That would not change in the slightest. We can still hang out. You can still have "Black" friends, Asian friends, get married outside of your supposed race or real culture.
I am still going to hangout with Goaded. Still going to marry my Austrian girlfriend. I am still going to hang out with my Indian bud and his "Black" wife.
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I think if someone wants an exclusively one race community they should find like minded people, put their funds together and set up a commune somewhere out in the middle of no where.
Well, I think we should help out a bit. Make things more formal.
How so?
Well, they would claim that they couldn't do it now because it is against the law to keep people out.
Not on private property that's not a place of business (why I described it as a "commune").
What about kids growing up in these communities? a) Won't they be brainwashed, and b) Imagine one of them falls in love with someone from a different zone? You'll have a Rome and Juliet situation on your hands.
Children are brainwashed now. Racism is taught. It is learned. And in these "zones", racists can teach their children whatever they wish. I don't think every child we will choose ignorance however. I think they will have problems keeping young ones in their zones. They may have to erect some barriers.
Yeah, I'm just thinking about the kids' rights.
So how would you enforce the “no go zones”? Subjectively, how each gestapo guard views your skin color. Oh he’s he’s just white enough to pass.
I dunno. Ask the racists? If a "White" is created, ask them. Will they stop their children from leaving? Will they force their citizens to stay or return?
The same goes for if there is a "Black" zone. Or an American Indian zone. Or a Asian zone.
It is up to the zones. Not to the regular population.
How do you define race? Like what is white and what is black?
I see I need to create another thread because people here keep asking me the questions they never ask of racists. I did not invent race. I am not a racist. I couldn't tell you a single thing about how these zones would be run, what the rules would be, etc.
But you have asked the ultimate question.
1. What is race? I don't know. Ask the racists.
2. What would be the requirements for entry. I have no idea. I have no idea about how a racist would certify a "White" person. Would it be a genetic test? Would they have to prove this through lineage? Would there just be a physical exam? I don't know and I don't care. It's their show. The same goes for the "Black" zone, Asian zone, Latino zone. . .
3. Will there be exemptions? Like could someone like Candace Owens get an exemption and live in the "White" zone with her husband? I don't know. That's up to the racists. Maybe they will let her stay as long as they had no children.
This is a perfect opportunity for racists to show the world exactly what they have been misunderstood about for so long. Racists have always said they are just misunderstood.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHjKzr6tLz0
It's stupid. But it already happens. In the earlier times it was directly pronounced, nowadays it's just nuanced.
No, it doesn't. Think about it. A racist dude can go home. And when he turns on the television, he won't see CNN, MSNBC, BET, HBO, STARZ or any of those media/hollywood channels that he claims cause him so much pain. He can have Turner Class movies, Fox News, One America News Network. . .
He can have a utopia where everyone understands him and he understand everyone else. It would be the nice quiet community that racist claim would be possible without SJWs and "Black" folks and stuff like that.
Roland, I don't know if you are doing some extended sarcasm here. But why is that a good thing? Because those racist white people anyway think that America is their brain-child. So what is the future of America? Not this for sure.
I say let us have racists become uncomfortable, let us have dialogues, let us have the protests and let us do all that's needed to change this nonsense.
Why is it a bad thing? That's what I don't understand. Which racist person have you reformed at GaG? I mean racists are dedicated folks. You have racists here who create multiple accounts just to stir up trouble. They create dozens of threads a day. They call you names and when you are offended they mock you for being offended. If you call them a name back, they become your victim. They will use any dirty trick, any lie, any form of instigation to create problems.
And I figure why not give them what they keep saying they want.
The Utopia where all their dreams can come true.
A person who can't see another human as a human, but as a sum of stereotypes, who sees others only by their usefulness to him, shouldn't be let off to have their own country. And sure enough from that "Utopia" they are going to come and create trouble in other places as well if it benefits them. Why should they have that Utopia? It's time to contain the bullshit where it started.
Well, racists as it is wield considerable power. That's why "Black" people can be killed with no accountability. It is just a logical rational conclusion.
So I say get them out of the equation so we can get to doing what we have to do.
Learning to live with one another. Why do we keep thinking we can convince racists?
They do not want to be convinced. In fact, they do not even want to lose the source of the racism.
Their ignorance.
A racist isn't born, he's made. He's made by his experiences, the things he's told, the things he sees on TV and the things he reads about history.
So what needs to change for a racist to not exist? Because even in the non-segragated places we'll have them come up.
Of course he is. And again I ask what racist have you ever reformed. A racist isn't a victim any longer after being exposed to the truth again and again.
They have modified their belief system so that objective truth and facts have no effect on them.
So why are we dealing with their attempt to sabotage what you and I have to figure out.
I keep telling you, we have work to do. This is not easy. Understanding each other, relating to each other is hard work.
It's not the solution, in my opinion. It's exactly the type of thing that will make things worse. The solution is to not encourage the type of thinking. But we can agree to disagree here.
One thing we know. Doing noting will make things decidedly worse. I thought these riots would just be in Minneapolis. Then I spent three days talking to angry "Black" folks in my community, trying to clam people down. We have to fix this.
I've been thinking of this. And I think this whole issue is a combination of 1. the frustration the police feel in dealing with community violence often which makes their job harder on a daily basis, and 2. officers like Derek Chauvin who don't have any humanity in them that end up killing black men because of all the pent up frustration.
It's unfair that good men in these communities also have to be seen with the trouble makers. So solving the gang violence is important to fixing the apathy people feel towards black men, because it fixes the general reputation of these areas. Even here on GaG when discussing this, I was asked in another thread -- "How many black men kill black men?" And I understand why the question even came to his mind.
Are black neighborhoods becoming better or worse day by day? Does the government treat these communities fairly in terms of the resources they give? What are the real challenges? I feel this entire country needs education on the experiences that blacks have felt as a community.
Well, I don't think getting better stats will do anything to stop folks from being racist. In terms of these communities, I am kind of a self-empowerment kind of guy. The "Black" community has tremendous wealth. But so many "Blacks" see no responsibility back to the community. That has to change.
I don't live where I am because I have to. I choose to.
The last three nights I was out in the streets. Two nights ago, I encountered a group of young, angry "Black" folk. We must have talked for four hours.
"The "Black" community has tremendous wealth. But so many "Blacks" see no responsibility back to the community. That has to change." <--- Agreed.
What is the important message one can take away from the conversation you had?
Racist cops should be removed.
They just do not care. They are constantly fed the lie that no matter what they do it does not matter. It does not matter if they go to school, it does not matter if they steal, it does not matter if they become find jobs.
They will be considered garbage. The police will still treat them unfairly. They will still be labeled as thugs. They will be seen as the worst.
That's why they do not care about "Black" businesses. Why should they?
Who is feeding them this garbage that, nothing they do matters. They don't care about voting. they don't care about trying to build anything. They just want to see it all burn.
Right, because the system always works against them. I understand Roland, I'll be more vocal about this. I think when we protest for others, the movement becomes stronger. Silence is the enemy of this as well.
It's sad that they think what they do won't matter. Shouldn't they be inspired by stories of people who've made it great from humbler beginnings?
There really has to be some investigating into the forums and groups these young folks are participating in.
Why are we letting the message that there is nothing they can do sink in?
Agreed. But what do you think the primary channels for such a message are? Elders? TV? Also, do you see that people in such neighborhoods can make a difference if they wanted to, or is the establishment (government and the system that's in place) the thing that's holding them back?
We ARE guaranteed "freedom of association." Forcing people together with different cultures and values insures nothing but conflict. Multiculturalism has destroyed every culture that's tried it.
That statement makes nonsense.
There are very few societies that are not multicultural.
You probably mean multiracial, which is another nonsensical concept, but in a different way.
That would breed entire towns and cities of racists. It's a terrible idea.
Not to mention the logistical nightmare of enforcing it in the first place which would violate basic human rights.
Imagine telling someone they have to leave their town of birth because they are black because only white people will be allowed to live there now. How will you make her leave? Will you pay for her house? Get her another job? Move her stuff?
However you imagine it's it ends up being a disaster. Imagine the uproar over enforcing this and the atrocities which would happen in the process.
Enforcing? What do "we" need to enforce? Racists have to enforce the weird racist laws in their areas. You say we would have entire towns of racists. It is like that now. This will be a perfect opportunity for racists to prove their whole Master Race theory. If there is a "Black" zone, they would have to figure out would a child in their zone could leave or not. Maybe the cutoff age is 17 or something. I dunno. Their problem, not "ours".
And I think you totally misunderstand. Segregation is a voluntary act.
I think that until we learn to judge based upon character and not color we will be unhappy.
Well, Liam we do have social groups. I mean, find one place on the globe where social groups do not exist. It is defines humanity.
But race is different. Because race isn't a social group according to racists.
Race is just an objective standard for grouping people.
And racists need that standard. They will never let go of the power of objectivity.
I know, and it is sad. People are cool or suck as individuals. Race doesn't matter.
Also, I didn't vote. While I disagree with the idea I don't think it is necessarily stupid. At least you are looking for a solution and stimulating debate.
It is funny. Racists are calling my idea. . . politically correct and SJWism.
haha!
American racists are unique. A racist in Europe would just at this chance.
Sorry. that would be "jump" at the chance.
Racism in Europe is rather straight forward and easier to understand.
I dislike the idea of giving racists a whole area of the country to control
Well, they do that now in many ways. This would just take the mystery out of everything.
Well, I hate them.
I truly and utterly despise racists.
I respect cockroachesmore, cockroaches are just little bits of Chitin and DNA, Racists have the choice to not be evil and didn't take it
Well I am not fond of them either. But there are some that are ok. I just really dislike the fruitcake kind.
That sounds a lot like giving up to me. Why not just go back to feudalism?
How is it feudalism? A zone is a zone. Not a nation state? This race conversation has been going on for a 150 years.
When I went to school it would of helped me in the class room
but then you would have cities going to war with each other instead of riots.
Why would you want to declare war on another city when you have your racial paradise?
just make sure that nobody destroys anyone elses stuff like the kk destroyed black wallstreet in tulsa
look it up if you dont believe me
Well, GaG probably isn't the place where many people know about the destruction of "Black" Wall Street or the Rosewood massacre.
We already had that. It was called Jim Crowe and Apartheid and you guys advocated to end it.
No that was forced segregation. Racist tried to force their laws on people who wanted nothing to do with insane crazy as batshit racism. The thing is right now you can believe whatever you want. You already have almost totally exclusive "White" towns, etc.
That isn't good enough.
So I introduce a compromise. I agree, we will never persuade fruitcake racists to abandon their beliefs. Here is a way you can continue your "race".
Because racism is not dependent upon what I do. You don't know me from yesterday. Yet you are a racist.
That's not just insane.
Its stupid.
So since I can't convince you of logic. Of fact. Of truth. I compromise with you on setting up a community where you can preach these insane ideals. You can control your media. You can outlaw interracial relationships. You can do all you need to make you feel safe.
It is not dependent upon what my race does. If that is the case, we need a few trillion dollars from "White" people.
If I am responsible for every bad thing "Black" people do or have done, then you are responsible for everything that "White" people do or have done.
We have decided as a nation, we won't go down that road. So you have to find a community where you can preach this nonsense.
The fact is, racists are batshit crazy.
Why would a racist care about a "Black" country being underdeveloped? And there are many "White" and Asian underdeveloped nations.
In fact, African-American GDP alone puts us at 16th if we were a separate nation.
Stick that up your racist butthole.
Bye racist troll.
Find another thread to shit in.
Nah.
Oh come on man.
Why not?
Well maybe an area for vegans and their various "nut" milks. There's no such thing, because nuts don't have tits. I know enough to know that you need a mammal's breast for milk...
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@NYCQuestions1976 You might live to regret those words.
USA has some states nearly segregated already
True. But racists claim they are being bombarded by messages of interracial relationships, political correctness, SJW, etc.
The media is against them. Their "race" is being exterminated. They are blamed for everything.
So they can have their utopia where everything is perfect.
You made that sound kinda ok but still no my bff is black
That would not change in the slightest. We can still hang out. You can still have "Black" friends, Asian friends, get married outside of your supposed race or real culture.
I am still going to hangout with Goaded. Still going to marry my Austrian girlfriend. I am still going to hang out with my Indian bud and his "Black" wife.
Nothing changes for us.
But for them, this is a game changer.
No I don't want anyone having to live or do anything different then the other does
Understood,
🙂🙂.
Looks like time travel IS possible!
Dude, I created a take on time travel!!!
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Haha, that's awesome! Unlike this kind of time travel here...
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I know. But we can referendum on the ballot in a future election.
Highly unlikely
We just need more support. Its funny that the racists are being so resistant.
What's up with that?